Nic Jones

Subject: Nic Jones
From: Joe Tanguay
Date: 05 Feb 98 - 03:30 AM

I'm searching for any info about Nic Jones and his music. Music books, sheet music, recordings, articles, etc

{transferred from another thread-Joe Offer}

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: Wolfgang Hell
Date: 05 Feb 98 - 04:25 AM

this site's a start.
Wolfgang

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: Susan of DT
Date: 07 Feb 98 - 10:17 AM

A couple of his records I got in 1981: Penguin Eggs: Topic 12TS411 Canadee-i-o Drowned Lovers Humpback Whale Little Pot Stove Courting is a Pleasure Barrack Street Planxty Davis Flandyke Shore Farewell to the Gold

Noah's Ark Trap: Shanachie 79003 Wanton Seed Jackie Tar Ten Thousand Miles Golden Glove Indian Lass Miles Weather Hill Isle of France Crockery Ware Annachie Gordon

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: Daisy
Date: 09 Feb 98 - 07:56 AM

Hi,

The only current recording of Nic's is "Penguin Eggs" which is available on the Topic label. He is, however, getting material together to release an album himself. So far there's enough for three CDs!! Nic isn't on the net so If you want to find out more you may be best to get a message to him via Pete Coe who is in contact with him quite often. You can contact Pete through his web site at :
http://www.backshift.demon.co.uk/petehome.htm

Hope this helps,

Daisy.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: Nigel Sellars
Date: 17 Feb 98 - 08:33 AM

Michael Raven's out of print _English Folk Guitar_ has direct transcriptions of some of Nic's work from his first two albums "Songs and Ballads" and "Nic Jones." Though OOP, it might still be available from the English Folk Dance and Song Society at Cecil Sharp House in London. There's also another solo album besides the two mentioned and the aforementioned pair: "From the Devil to a Stranger" and the group Bandoggs' one album features Nic.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: nigel hinton
Date: 11 Mar 98 - 08:16 AM

i have recently found Nic Jones music and have been completely bowled over by it. I bought the only available album, Penguin Eggs, and since then I have managed to track down a couple of tapes. I'm not sure what I have got on these tapes. They are obviously not THE NOAH'S ARK TRAP, since I have a track listing for that. Has anyone a track listing for the other three albums - Nic Jones, Songs and Ballads, and From The Devil To a Stranger, so that I can identify what I've got? Thanks, Nigel

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: Wolfgang
Date: 11 Mar 98 - 08:30 AM

Nigel, go to my post above (05-Feb-98), follow the link, and you'll have two of the three tracklists you want.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: Wolfgang
Date: 11 Mar 98 - 08:56 AM

... if one of these two tracklists doesn't help yet, post here again. I think I have a tape of From the Devil to a Stranger (including a tracklist). I could type it if necessary.
Wolfgang

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: nigel hinton
Date: 12 Mar 98 - 07:21 AM

Thanks Wolfgang. I checked out the information you directed me to and realise that I have NIC JONES and FROM THE DEVIL TO A STRANGER. neither of them reaches the sublime heights of PENGUIN EGGS but, nonetheless there are some fine things on them. I'm looking forward to tracking down THE NOAH'S ARK TRAP. It's also great news that a new album is pending according to his ex-Bandogg colleague, Pete Coe.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: johnhill
Date: 11 May 98 - 03:55 PM

To Nigel Hinton

If you contact "Little Pot Stove Records" at Sheffield they have a copy of The Noah's Ark Trap by Nic Jones price £16. Contact E-mail [e-mail]

I obtained a copy a fortnight ago from another source its very good.

Regards

John Hill

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: nigel hinton
Date: 13 May 98 - 05:20 PM

To John Hill, Thanks for information. I've already located a copy of Noah's Ark Trap from Celtic Music in Harrogate. At the same time I managed to get new vinyl copies of From The Devil To A Stranger and the Bandogg's album. Great stuff.

All the best, Nigel Hinton

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: jehill
Date: 26 May 98 - 07:36 PM

There is a web page for Nic Jones (not done by him) at http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Campus/8529/nicjones.htm

Its worth checking out but the lyrics here are not transcribed from Nic's recordings and in some cases such as Canadee-i-o are completely different so must have been "lifted" from other places such as the DT (thats not a critism by the way)

It does however, give the track listings from Nic's solo Albums and the artwork from most of the Covers. There are other odd tracks of Nics on other LPs such as the 50th Fellside Album "Flash Company" so this isn't a definitive list of his recordings.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: Doctor John
Date: 29 May 98 - 05:16 PM

To Nic Jones Collectors. There are two tracks sung by him on "The Halliard and John Raven" Available from Mike Raven (CD). There also A Halliard album "It's The Irish In Me" (Deleted) He has a few tracks on "Songs of A Changing World" (excellent album) Also one track on "Ballads" CD from Fellside. Excellent.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: nigel hinton
Date: 14 Jun 98 - 09:57 AM

There's news of a new CD of Nic Jones material gathered from radio and concerts - all material not available on his other discs. It's called IN SEARCH OF NIC JONES and is available from MOLLY MUSIC, 52 NEWLAND PARK DRIVE, YORK, YO10 3HP, UK.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From:
Date: 14 Jun 98 - 08:20 PM

I thought Nic Jones was in a serious car accident in the 1980's, and didn't perform any more.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: jehill
Date: 15 Jun 98 - 04:47 AM

The CD is of previously unreleased recordings prior to Nic's 1982 accident. Its great news that something "new" is being realeased. Nic only made 5 solo albums and only his last "Penguin Eggs" is available on CD. I saw Martin Carthy on Saturday and he said that someone is sitting on the other four and won't allow them to be released on CD. This is bad news as there are many who have only just "discovered" Nic and would love to have his work in their collections. Lets just hope that this gets rectified before too long.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: jehill
Date: 07 Jul 98 - 10:40 AM

More details of Nic Jones' "new" CD. If you go to http://www.lesk.demon.co.uk/pages/search.htm you will find the track listings and the price inc postage for both inside and outside the UK. Note that the address is Mollie Music not Molly Music as above.
All proceeds to Nic and his family.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: Art Thieme
Date: 24 Jul 98 - 01:34 AM

Do want to order Nic's new CD, but I called my bank this morning and told 'em I wanted to get an International Money Order in pounds sterling---as indicated on the web site!! You would've thought I had made a bad joke. Seems there is no to get that in Peru, Illinois. Anybody know if securing a IMO can be done by mail or e-mail or on the phone ot what???

I feel silly asking this at my advanced age, but either one knows or one doesn't; I don't! Not proud, just truthful!

Some folks have tact, the rest tell the truth!

Art

Subject: Nic Jones
From:
Date: 30 Jan 99 - 01:58 PM

I `m searching for the notes of Nic Jones`song "TEN THOUSAND MILES".Where can I get them. leni

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From:
Date: 20 Feb 99 - 11:30 AM

Hello People....

The poisoned chalice has been handed to me to try and organise the next Nic CD......(ie. the one after "In Search of....") I'm looking to find any Peel sessions from 1972-1979 that any of you might have recorded (illegally, I might add!!) from the Radio......I have some of his later work, but, as usual, the Beeb decided that the tape was worth more than it's contents!!! and cosequently wiped the Masters!!!

If you have such tapes, E me, and I will take you to court, punish you severely, or, buy you a beer, depending on the quality of the tapes!!!!

Yes. It's a crying shame that Celtic Music won't release the master tapes of the early albums to Nic's family, They're not the wealthiest of people, and a few royalties over the years would have been nice.

After such a horrendous accident, you'd think that commercial profit making wouldn't be the priority of caring people would you. (maybe I'm being over-cynical here)

Nonetheless, although a bit sillier than he used to be, Nic is starting to play guitar again, and he's a demon at pool! (4-1, the swine!!)

E mail me, if you should feel inclined.

Best Wishes to all

[e-mail]

PS. Oh, Check out the New CD by "The Fraser Sisters" on the No Masters label.......Mmmmm...Nice! (shameless plug over!)

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: Nigel Hinton
Date: 23 Feb 99 - 04:49 PM

A terrific tribute album has just been released on Zero Hour Records by John Wesley Harding. It is called Trad Arr Jones and it is Wes' tribute to Nic Jones' arrangements, song choices and performances. In the liner notes Wes talks about his love of Nic's work and his desire to honour the man's career, including his songwriting. The tracks are: THE SINGER'S REQUEST, LITTLE MUSGRAVE, THE GOLDEN GLOVE, ANNACHIE GORDON, THE FLANDYKE SHORE, WILLIAM AND NANCY'S PARTING, WILLIAM GLENN, THE BONNY BUNCH OF ROSES, MASTER KILBY, ANNAN WATER, ISLE OF FRANCE. There are also intersting notes on the songs on Wes' home page on www.wesweb.net

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: John Rainer
Date: 24 Feb 99 - 08:38 AM

Anybody got info on Nic's guitar tunings - particularly for Canadee-i-o? I think it's in CGCGCD.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From:
Date: 23 Jun 01 - 06:54 PM

Would like to purchase LPs of Nic Jones. Send price to above . Yours Ian

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: mooman
Date: 23 Jun 01 - 07:13 PM

I've got LP's of "The Noah's Ark Trap" and "From the Devil to a Stranger" that I'd be prepared to put in the Mudcat auction (50% for Mudcat, 50% for another very worthy cause happening on the 'Cat currently) if anyone might be interested. I think they're pretty hard to find nowadays.

mooman

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: GUEST,Dan in Nova Scotia
Date: 23 Jun 01 - 09:25 PM

I first heard of Nic Jones from Stan Rogers and immediately went out in search of Nic and found From the Devil to a Stranger and was immediately hooked.

As I perform in the UK about once a year I decided to stop in to see Nic and Julia one late night in June 1999 and bought several copies of In Search of... Nic Jones. (Well worth it!!!) and I also had a chance to sit down and talk with them for a few hours. They are wonderful people and Nic, although he did play a few bars of things and showed me a few things I am still attempting to incorporate, he kept trying to get me on a chess board which I had to refuse because apparently he knows his way around the board as well as he knows his way around the neck of a guitar. In fact he says his guitar fared better than he did, regarding the accident. It only broke its neck!

But if you can find any of Nics other lps anywhere you might try Little Pot Stove Records c/o "John Dalton"

I'm not sure if any are listed but it might be well worth a search.

And as far as Canadie-i-o he uses the c modal tuning which is CGCGCD. (I asked if I might be able to record this and both he and Julia were kind and said I was quite welcome to it as well as others which they would be quite happy to let me know where they came from.) (You can also check one of the back issues of Folk Roots Magizine for a few more details on Nic and some of his songs and tunings.

Cheers,

Dan

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: GUEST,Terry Blankenship
Date: 24 Jun 01 - 01:49 AM

Hey Joe,

Here are the best Nic Jones links that I have found. A couple of them great have discographies and lyrics. There is an article on one of them about Nic Jones playing style also. A lot of information is there if you check out all of these sites.

http://www.freefolk.com/nicjones.htm http://www.lesk.demon.co.uk/pages/jones.htm

http://www.sarcon.demon.co.uk/engfolk/21/nic_jones.htm

http://www.folkmusic.net/htmfiles/inart437.htm

Terry Blankenship

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: pavane
Date: 24 Jun 01 - 03:24 AM

He seems to play 'GO' as well, judging fom the photo in the notes with 'In search of'

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From:
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 01:48 PM

i am interested in buying LPs of Nic Jones. Depending on price and condition. Any help?

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: pavane
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 04:09 AM

Doesn't look like anyone wants to let go of their copies!

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: GeorgeH
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 06:59 AM

They are rather sought after.

And make sure you see this thread:
New Nic Jones (Double) CD

and for a bit more background on that release:
Nic Jones: New CD release here soon!

and for the low-down on why Nic's earlier recordings aren't available:
The 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga

Cheers!

George

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: GeorgeH
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 07:00 AM

Hey! Three blue clickies and the ALL worked . . perhaps I am getting somewhere!

G.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From:
Date: 30 Jun 01 - 04:55 PM

very interested in Nic Jones LPs any help?

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 30 Jun 01 - 05:04 PM

NEVER let Nic play you at any strategy based board game.... he is lethal! I spent some time in a very wet Wadebridge festival with him, and he is merde chaud at those games. Glad to hear he's doing OK, he was great fun to be with then, ooo, 15 years ago now? It wasn't that long after the accident anyway... witnessed a 'reunion' with him and Tony Rose, what a day! Still can't hear the Bonny light horseman without remembering it.

LTS

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From:
Date: 23 Jul 01 - 03:51 PM

VERY VERY VERY interested in Nic Jones LPS etc Any help? Ian

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: GUEST,chrispark
Date: 04 Mar 02 - 08:50 PM

All of Nic's first 4 solo albums can be downloaded as MP3 files from audiogalaxy.com. I have copied them onto 3 CDs after converting them to wave files.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: M.Ted
Date: 04 Mar 02 - 09:28 PM

Thanks for the tip, chrispark--I am there!

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: Noreen
Date: 05 Mar 02 - 01:49 PM

Perhaps if you do download Nic's music for free, you would consider sending a donation in lieu of purchasing the recordings, to Nic at

MOLLY MUSIC,
52 NEWLAND PARK DRIVE,
YORK,
YO10 3HP,
UK.

Latest info about Nic and his music in the following thread:

Nic Jones Unearthed Track List

Noreen

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: Noreen
Date: 05 Mar 02 - 01:56 PM

And Nic Jones Perma-Data

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 05 Mar 02 - 01:57 PM

Yes, particularly as Nic's health doesnt let him work.........*hint, hint*

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: Ralphie
Date: 05 Mar 02 - 02:23 PM

Chrispark...M Ted...et al
Rest assured that Nics family would be very unhappy with people downloading MP3 files of the "Lost" albums...As am I
Bootlegging is odious anyway, but, particularly in the case of Nic....
As the producer of "Unearthed" I am as angry as all of you when it comes to the reluctance of certain parties to give back what is rightfully Nics...to Nic....But, so it goes.
By this persons antics (se threads too numerous to name), Nic and his family have been denied their rightful royalties on his music, for nearly 20 years, (The anniversary of the crash is any day now)
The financial result for a crippled man with two young children, was horrendous.
This is precisely the reason that Dave Emery and myself have persued the "Archive" projects.

Oh Yes, I am angry....but at least all the profits from "In Search of" and " Unearthed" go direct to the family.
If you have any conscience at all, but can't resist the temptation of downloading MP3 files, could I urge you, as Noreen says, to write a cheque to Mollie Music?

Ralph Jordan
(Producer "Unearthed")

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From:
Date: 25 Sep 02 - 07:18 PM

I have one copy each of 'Ballads...' and 'Nic Jones' on CD (royalty paid) for sale. They have paperwork and were transferred very well from vinyl.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 25 Sep 02 - 11:04 PM

Penguin Eggs, In Search of and Unearthed are all available from CAMSCO Music. 800/548-3655

We take major credit cards and checks in dollars or pounds.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: Nerd
Date: 26 Sep 02 - 12:51 PM

GUEST,[e-mail], can you give details on how the royalties were paid, to whom, etc? Also, are these transfers done by Leader/Celtic Music or by yourself? I know that they've been selling CDRs of "Ballads and Songs" for some time, but wasn't aware that "Nic Jones" was available anywhere. Did you make them and send a check off to Celtic Music paying for royalties, or what? And when you say "paperwork" do you mean original liner notes?

I'll send you an email about this as well, but if you check the forum, it might make sense to let people here know too.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: GUEST,Michael Heytman
Date: 01 Jan 05 - 11:21 PM

Looking for tab or tuning to "The Humpback Whale"
Any help much appreciated

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 02 Jan 05 - 05:14 AM

G'day Michael,

If you're after Ballina Whalers, by Harry Robertson (also author of Wee Pot Stove, recorded by Nic Jones as "Penguin Eggs") - it's in the Digital Tratition (DT), the 'Cat's song database (... as posted by me in 2000 ... ?) at Ballina Whalers.

Unfortunately Harry's tune doesn't seem to have made it into the DT as a MIDI. I can supply that to an e-mail address (and maybe should stir up MMario ... Mudcat's tune chaser ... to get a basic MIDI attached to Harry's words.

Regards,

Bob

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: GUEST,Michael Heytman
Date: 05 Jan 05 - 02:15 AM

Thanks Bob
Its seems that "Ballina Whalers" is indeed the song I was after. I do have Nic Jones version already. Am still particularly interested in Nic Jones' guitar arrangement of the piece. Any ideas on whether it has been tabbed or not? or what the tuning he uses? would be very much appreciated.
Regards
Michael

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 05 Jan 05 - 02:45 AM

G'day Michael,

Sorry, I can't help you with the Nic Jones variants ... we had little exposure to Nic Jones out here ... but lots to Harry Robertson!

Regards,

Bob

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: bentallamy
Date: 14 Aug 06 - 05:13 PM

i've only just found this post.

did the CD after 'in search of...' come about?

am i being stupid and its actually 'unearthed'?

cheers

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: Les from Hull
Date: 14 Aug 06 - 05:44 PM

Get it from Nic Jones
himself

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 14 Aug 06 - 05:45 PM

Didn't dare start another thread.
But...News from the Jones camp. there will be another release from the Jones archive on TOPIC records (Oct 2006).
The track listing is similar to the other two releases (In search of, and Unearthed) but as far as I know, this new release contains many alternative versions. Haven't heard it myself yet, but a big thanks to good old Topic for doing it. Anything that keeps Nics memory alive has got to be be a good thing. (We still haven't given up on getting the first 4 albums back)

No Problems with buying this CD. Full agreement with the family amd Tony Engle (Topic)..

Now, Mr Bulmer.....What about the original albums?

So, Buy it and enjoy it...I will, even though I've heard nearly all of it before!!

Ralph

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 14 Aug 06 - 05:49 PM

Available now
Coming soon

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 14 Aug 06 - 05:56 PM

Oh Bugger.
Forgot to tell you the title.
It's "Game Set Match"
Release date Oct 2nd (ish) Don't have a cat number yet, but I'm sure CAMSCO will sort that one out for all US readers.
I knew he played chess and snooker.....but tennis????

Ah Well R

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: pavane
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 05:03 AM

Looks good - just ordered it.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 05:31 AM

Well done Pav...!!!
So have I. How sad is that!
Regards R

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: Hoblander
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 10:01 AM

Game Ste Match. Listened to the samples on Fish Records site, most have been included on Unearthed or In Search of, and they sound as if they have been recorded in a tin box. Don't think I will be rushing to buy this one.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 10:09 AM

I was in HMV Liverpool today. They have Nic in the country music section!

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: GUEST,Liam
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 10:48 AM

>>Game Ste Match. Listened to the samples on Fish Records site, most have been included on Unearthed or In Search of, and they sound as if they have been recorded in a tin box. Don't think I will be rushing to buy this one.<<

Hoblander, I don't know how often you listen to the low quality samples on many "shop" type websites, but many of them sound like that. That isn't realy a fair test of quality. That you may already have a similar version of the track on a different CD is a reason for not buying that I do understand though.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones
From: HipflaskAndy
Date: 08 Jan 08 - 07:38 AM

An update is required here....

Nic and family moved from York in 2007 - so the York address given above is no longer correct
(perhaps Joe or someone can alter any reference elswhere on Mudcat that now reads incorrectly on that score?)

Anyone wishing to order CDs from them should write to the Jones family via....
Mollie Music, PO Box 189, Yelverton, PL19 1BA (UK!)
Or via the website http://www.nicjones.net

I would personally urge you to buy direct from the Jones'
own 'Mollie Music' rather than any other source. Thank you.
Cheers - Duncan McFarlane