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BORED OF THE DANCE
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Subject: Kipper Family
From: GUEST,Annraoi
Date: 06 Oct 01 - 09:14 PM

Has anyone any information on this "family" of English "folk" singers who seem to specialise in risqué remakings of popular English ballads?
Annraoi


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Subject: RE: Help: Kipper Family
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Oct 01 - 09:28 PM

Lots of stuff on the net annaroi.....

Enter Kipper family on google...here's a decent one:

Click

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Help: Kipper Family
From: Crane Driver
Date: 06 Oct 01 - 09:50 PM

The Kipper family - "Henry", the old man, and "Sid", supposedly his son, were a brilliant comedy act, allegedly a Norfolk version of the traditional Copper family. Sid Kipper is still around as a solo act, capable of reducing a room full of folkies to gasping wrecks, but sadly the guy who played Old Henry passed away last year.

Sic transit gloria mundi (the old girl's thrown up in the van again)


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Subject: RE: Help: Kipper Family
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 06 Oct 01 - 09:57 PM

Dick/'Henry' died? I didnt know that! *sigh*


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Subject: RE: Help: Kipper Family
From: nutty
Date: 07 Oct 01 - 02:32 AM

Here's Henry's Epitaph (hopefully Dick is still with us)CLICK HERE


     

    Henry Kipper RIP

    (1914-2000) the end of an error
    by Chris Sugden

    (From the Trunch Trumpet, 31.7.2000)

    Henry, alleged father of folk mego-star Sid Kipper and erstwhile member of the Kipper Family, departed this earth on July 29th. After a long and painful existence, not least for his family, he passed away peacefully in mid anecdote. So in a very real sense he went quietly in everyone else's sleep. Now we shall never know just what it was he said to Cedric Cockle about his artichokes at the Trunch Pig and Produce Show in 1947.

    Henry Kipper, younger son of William and Sarah, was born on the day World War I broke out. His father noted in his diary at the time "This is the end of civilisation as we know it". Strangely, though, he made no mention of the War.

    Henry grew up in the little Norfolk village of St Just-near-Trunch, where in 1936 he married Dot Spratt to the great relief of all, as it meant nobody else would have to marry either of them. During World War II he held the reserved occupation of Scrap Dealer, and from then on did whatever work came his way that he couldn't avoid.

    In the 1980s, however, along with his talented son Sid, he was discovered by the folk scene, and for a few years they had a sensational career touring the country, recording albums and appearing on TV and radio.

    Then, in 1991, the family held a surprise retirement party for Henry, leaving Sid to conquer new worlds as a solo performer, story teller, radio presenter and singer. His father would surely have been proud of him. Well - jealous, at least.

    For the past few years Henry's whereabouts have been a complete mystery. He ran away from the Old Folkies Home to which he had been retired, and the family lost touch with him. Then, just two weeks before his death, he turned up out of the blue at the family cottage, and despite the change of locks managed to gain entrance. There they found him, sitting in his old chair by the fire as if nothing had happened. Where he had been is still a mystery, but there may be a clue in the fact that a number of widows from all over England attended his funeral

    The service was conducted by the vicar of St Just, Rev 'Call-Me-Derek' Bream. It was a colourful affair, even before the widows came to blows with each other. Derek performed a rather modern form of service, which included the coffin being placed in the cloakroom according to the laws of feng shui, and the congregation standing and clapping their hands over their heads as they movingly sang 'Another One Bites The Dust'.

    Tributes to Henry have been flooding in - not least from the various widows who attended his funeral. A spokesperson for the Erpingham Folk Song and Dance Society said "As a singer his refusal to be tied down to the well-tempered scale was challenging". Cromer's Folk on the Pier opined "We will never see his like again, but rest assured that if we do we'll run them out of town".

    Henry leaves a widow, Dot, a brother, George, and a son, Sid. A spokesman for the latter said "Sid Kipper is alive and well, and laughing his head off!"

    Chris Sugden


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Subject: RE: Help: Kipper Family
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 07 Oct 01 - 03:24 AM

They had to kill him off because Sid was sick of people asking when he was coming back!!

I've slept in the same bed as Sid Kipper!

(Mind you, so's Martin Carthy......)

There are several albums, a folk opera and a song book or two available as well.....

LTS


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Subject: RE: Help: Kipper Family
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 07 Oct 01 - 09:09 AM

Ah! *LOL*


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Subject: RE: Help: Kipper Family
From: DonMeixner
Date: 07 Oct 01 - 09:57 AM

But how are they related to the Sardine?

Don


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Subject: RE: Help: Kipper Family
From: Snuffy
Date: 07 Oct 01 - 01:38 PM

Abou a dozen Kipper songs already in the DT database and a few more in the forum - search on "Kipper"

WassaiL! V


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Subject: RE: Help: Kipper Family
From: GUEST,RolyH
Date: 07 Oct 01 - 02:33 PM

Notes from Buttons and Bows compilation album re a Kipper Family recording: 'A muddley of tunes from the Truch dance tradition.It is unusual to find the Kipper Family in unstrumental mood,and it is not certain when this rare recording was made.Henry Kipper suggests just before closing time'.


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Subject: RE: Help: Kipper Family
From: Garry Gillard
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 01:54 AM

Complete discography - I hope.

Garry

BTW: Who owns the copyright to the song lyrics? I'd like to put them on my site, but don't want to invoke piscine wrath.




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Subject: RE: Help: Kipper Family
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 02:00 AM

Talk to Sid or the record company about copyright. Address should be on the back of any album.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Help: Kipper Family
From: Garry Gillard
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 02:45 AM

I knew it seemed to be a silly question, Liz, but I don't know Sid and don't own any of the albums.

I hoped someone would


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Subject: RE: Help: Kipper Family
From: MC Fat
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 04:37 AM

Sid killed Old Henry off, appartantly when he first went solo he said he had gone to an Old Folies Home. Dick Nudds (who was Henry's alter ego) is though now living as a woman (name unknown)in a strange twist of fate. Oh what a tangled life we lead.


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Subject: RE: Help: Kipper Family
From: Snuffy
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 08:50 AM

I think the Kipper copyrights are mostly Dambuster Music, and this may be connected to Dave Bulmer.


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Subject: RE: Help: Kipper Family
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Aug 02 - 06:26 AM

Its good to see the Kipper tradition spreading and being kept alive----How do you keep a kipper alive?

I still think that the act was at its best when Henry was around.

Nicko the Ferret


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Subject: RE: Help: Kipper Family
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 20 Aug 02 - 07:03 AM

It's strange to think that Henry is now Henrietta and that Dick Nuds is now probably Dick-less and Nudd-less !


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Subject: RE: Help: Kipper Family
From: Schantieman
Date: 20 Aug 02 - 10:10 AM

Ouch!


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Subject: RE: Help: Kipper Family
From: Mr Happy
Date: 16 Dec 09 - 07:46 AM

In the bio link above, there's mention that the late Henry Kipper played the Tremelodeon.

Anyone have more info on this instrument?


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Subject: RE: Help: Kipper Family
From: Little Robyn
Date: 16 Dec 09 - 01:39 PM

It looked like a normal melodeon but it must have had something like a wee fan added inside that gave it the tremolo as the air passed through. It gave it a real vibrato effect.
Robyn


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Subject: RE: Help: Kipper Family
From: Little Robyn
Date: 16 Dec 09 - 01:42 PM

Anyway, I understood that Henry gave up because he couldn't handle the booze.
He would walk on the stage and the audience would go boooo - he couldn't handle that and I couldn't either.
Robyn


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Subject: RE: Help: Kipper Family
From: GUEST,Jim Knowledge
Date: 17 Dec 09 - 11:14 AM

I `ad that Sid Kipper in my cab once. `e `adn`t `ad time to take `is make up off and he still looked like a very convincing pensioner but a bit out of puff from running.
I said, "What`s up Sid? You look like you just done a `alf marathon"
`e said, "Too true Jim. I`ve just come away from that Traditions Club"
I said, "`owdit go then? Alright?"
`e said, "The audience was with us all the way but we shook `em off at the station!!"

Whaddam I like??


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