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Subject: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Spiritwhale@earthlink.net
Date: 07 Oct 01 - 01:37 AM

Hi Folks! I was wondering if any of you knew of a folk group called The Womenfolk. I think they came in just as Folk was going out! I have been searching for their records and/or CD's for a while and have come up with nothing! If anyone can guide me to these items...I'd appreciate it! Thanks! Roger

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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: rangeroger
Date: 07 Oct 01 - 02:11 AM

Oh boy, Oh boy another Roger. Good name.

There have been several threads here in the past on the Womenfolk.

If you go to the Forum search,enter Womenfolk in the filter box and set the date for a couple of years,you should find lots of info.

I have 3 of their 5 albums.

rr


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: MAG
Date: 07 Oct 01 - 10:57 AM

They can be hard to find: I'm one who was on the lookout for their stuff and gradually got it all. Bookfinder and/or amazon.com are places to try. One I got at Vinyl Resting Place in Portland Oregon. One I got at Crossroads used music place on Hawthorne in Portland, but you need to plan some time to go through all their stuff -- no index, shelved by consigner. Good luck.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 05:44 AM

Perhaps those who want to divide up the Mudcat would consider a forum for Rogers only!
Must be about 8 of us by now!
RtS


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Dec 01 - 12:27 AM

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Help: Does anyone remember The Womenfolk?


18-Dec-01 - 11:23 PM (#612851)
Subject: Does anyone remember The Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Spirit Whale


Hi Folks! My thanks to all of you who gave me the feedback on "Deportees"...i.e. Plane Wreck At Los Gatos. Ok...now I'm going to open up another can of worms! Does anyone remember the folk group called The Womenfolk? They were an all female singing group that came on the scene...just about the time Folk Music was leaving the scene. The one song I vividly remember them doing was "Little Boxes". Anything else over and above that...I draw a blank! I don't know whether they cut an album, or not. I would guess no because they were on the tail end of the Folk Era. C'mon all you ladies out there...some of you have gotta remember The Womenfolk! Help an old Folk Song Strangler out here! If you know of an album, or CD...let me know where I can lay my hands on it! I've checked all the "normal" places and drew a zip! If you know where I can get the album, or CD...contact me at spiritwhale@earthlink.net Thanks folks! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!


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19-Dec-01 - 12:05 AM (#612881)
Subject: RE: Help: Does anyone remember The Womenfolk?
From: Joe Offer


Hi, Spirit Whale - try our search engines. There have been several messages already posted about the Womenfolk, just like there was already a lot of information posted about Deportee.
It's better to see what has already been posted and add to those discussions, rather than starting a new thread for every question that comes to mind.
You'll find a discography here (click) at allmusic.com. More discography details here (click)
-Joe Offer-



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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: Allan C.
Date: 19 Dec 01 - 05:28 AM

Here is another related thread.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 19 Dec 01 - 09:56 AM

I'll bet (Folk Legacy) has some of their stuff. They have everything there!

Steve


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 19 Dec 01 - 10:45 AM

Okay, I'm curious now.

After seeing this post and following instructions, I can't find anyone who answered the question that this thread posed - where are the Womenfolk? I'm not referring to their albums, but what became of the 5 members of the group?

This past weekend I played a cut from the Hungry I album on my show and became curious. It was nice to see someone has resurrected this thread.

Anybody have any idea of "where are they now?"

Ron


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Dec 01 - 02:09 PM

I can't say I'm familiar with the Womenfolk at all. Who were the members of the group? Can anybody give us a bit of a discography, naming the cuts on their albums? The links I gave a bove give a very sketchy discography. I guess I kind of wrote them off as a folk-pop group, but it sounds like a number of people here are familiar with them.
I don't think you'll find them at Folk-Legacy, but it's quite likely that Collector's Choice Music or Rediscover Music would come up with a restrospective of this group. They have nothing out yet, but they keep a steady flow of new reissues. I just got a Back Porch Majority CD from Collector's Choice, and I was very pleased to get a We Five 2-LP CD from them a while back.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: artbrooks
Date: 19 Dec 01 - 02:45 PM

According to my (one) album, "The Womenfolk", RCA Victor LPM-2832, the members of the group were Elaine Gealer, Joyce James, Leni Ashmore, Babs Cooper and Judy Fine. This one includes "Don't You Rock 'em Daddy-O"; "Little Rag Doll"; "Para Bailar la Bamba"; "One Man's Hands"; "Whistling Gypsy Rover"; "Green Mountain Boys"; "Skip to My Lou"; "Love Comes A-Tricklin' Down"; "Little Boxes"; "Old Maid's Lament"; "Rickety Tickety Tin"; and "Good Old Mountain Dew" (sic throughout).


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Frank
Date: 19 Dec 01 - 06:08 PM

Years ago, Joyce James was in California.

Frank


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: Allan C.
Date: 19 Dec 01 - 06:20 PM

Thanks,Frank; but years ago ALL the Womenfolk were in California.


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Subject: Womenfolk Discography
From: raredance
Date: 19 Dec 01 - 07:41 PM

Joe, your wish is my command.



We Give A Hoot - The Womenfolk, The Villagers - A Live Hootenanny at the Ice House in Pasadena
RCA Victor LSP-2821, members LeniAshmore, Joyce James, Babs Cooper, Judy Fine, and Terry Harley.

    Songs by the Womenfolk -
Womenfolk (Stanley Styne)
A Hundred Miles (trad)
Jane Jane (trad)
Mrs. McGrath (trad)
Turn Around (Reynolds-Greene-Belafonte) Hard Times Cottonmill Girls (trad)

    Songs by the Villagers -
Good News (trad)
Run Molly (trad)
Land of Odin (trad)
Sing Early in the Morning (Steve Cohen)
Kum Ba Ya (trad)
Down By the Riverside (trad)(Womenfolk & Villagers)



"The Womenfolk"
RCA Victor LPM (LSP)-2832, the members of the group were Elaine Gealer, Joyce James, Leni Ashmore, Babs Cooper and Judy Fine

Don't you Rock 'em Daddy-o (trad)
Little Rag Doll (B Cooper)
Para Bailar la Bamba (trad)
One Man's Hands (P Seeter-A Comfort) Green Mountain Boys (E Sheldon)
Skip To MU Lou (trad0
Love Come A Tricklin' Down (L Kahn- B Kahn)
Little Boxes (Reynolds)
Old Maid's Lament (trad)
Rickety Tickety Tin (Tom Lehrer)
Good Old Mountain Dew (trad)



Never Underestimate the Power of The Womenfolk
RCA Victor LSP-2919, Members- Jean Amos, Leni Ashmore, Barbara Cooper (she had enough of the "Babs" stuff), Judy Fine, Joyce James.

Davey's Come Home (B Cooper)
The Best Is Yet To Come (E Sheldon)
Ten O'Clock All Is Well (Gibson-Camp)
Morning Dew (trad)
I Wish You Were Here (Reynolds) Young Man (Phoenix)
Two Fair Maids (E Gealer)
White Lilacs (Klimes)
One by One (McKeun)
Once Upon a Springtime (E Gealer)
Bring Me A Rose (E Sheldon



The Womenfolk at the hungry i
RCA Victor LSP-2991, members same as LSP-2919

Womenfolk (Stanley Styne)
Hey Nelly Nelly (Shel Silverstein-Jim Friedman)
First Battallion (Bob Camp-Shel Silverstein)
Water Wheel (Tom Lane)
Our Love Is Special (Elaine Gealer)
The Ballad of Murder, Incorporated Richard Powell-Ernie Sheldon)
Georgia Road (Tom Lane)
Da Da Da Da Dum Da (Elaine Gealer)
Jane Jane (arr. Womenfolk)
Never Wed an Old Man (arr. Womenfolk)
Silver Daggers (arr. Womenfolk)
Farewell Brother (Billy Edd Wheeler)



Man Oh Man!
RCA Victor LSP-3527. Members same as previous

Reno Nevada (R Farina)
The Maybe Song (Dave Arkin, George Smith)
The Last Thing On My Mind (T Paxton)
Baby What You Do To Me (Jimmy Reed)
Yesterday (McCartney- Lennon)
The Times They are A-Changin'(B Dylan)
Sunrise, Sunset (J Bock- S Harnick
There Is Beauty In The World (Jimmy David)
Meditation (Antonio Carlos Jobim- Norman Gimbel)
Man, Oh Man (Will Holt- Bernardo Segall)
How Easy We Forget (Ernie Sheldon)(Same song as "Bring Me A Rose" above) Quittin' Time (Barbara Cooper)




rich r


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Feb 04 - 03:31 PM

The last I knew, Joyce James was an owner/propriator of a book store in New York State, Judy Fine had diappeared into the woodwork of L.A. after divorcing her musician husband, Elaine Gealer was replaced in the group by Jean Amos who, along with Babs Cooper kinda dropped out of sight after the Womenfolk broke up. Leni Ashmore had the distinction of performing in the original cast of the musical "HAIR", produced in L.A. by Tom Smothers. Brent Hardwick


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: Allan C.
Date: 23 Feb 04 - 03:37 PM

Great update, Guest! Thanks!


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Becky L
Date: 25 Mar 06 - 08:39 PM

I have my dad's Womenfolk album (I'm listening to it now!). I thought this was their only album until checking on the internet, but even though they were more prolific than I thought, there's still very little info out there about them. Were any of the LP's made into tapes or CD's? My sisters are jealous that I have the one and only album! We used to fall asleep to a stack of folk albums when we were in grade school, The Womenfolk, Kingston Trio, Chad Mitchell Trio, etc.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: Allan C.
Date: 26 Mar 06 - 09:32 AM

Like the works of so many artists of the past, the Womenfolk albums are not generally available on CD. However, there is hope. I found a website called CD BBQ.com through which CD's of such artists can be purchased.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: Allan C.
Date: 27 Mar 06 - 06:22 AM

On the other hand, I just discovered how much CD BBQ would charge to make a CD of my favorite Womenfolk album. Unless I read something wrong, it would be more than eighty dollars! I think I'll just buy the album myself on EBay or something and create my own damn CD. Eighty some dollars! Whew!


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: Janice in NJ
Date: 27 Mar 06 - 08:03 AM

A sad note for those who do not already know. Joyce James Gibbs, known professionally as Joyce James, died in Newmarket, New Hampshire, in 2001 at the age of 69, shortly after receiving her BA from the University of New Hampshire with a major in Women's Studies. She had worked for the university while taking classes part-time, but did not complete her degree until after she retired. The UNH now gives the Joyce Gibbs Award in her honor. Joyce Gibbs was a feminist religious activist who very involved in both the women's spirituality community of Goddess-worshipping Neo-Pagans and the Unitarian-Universalist Church. She was also involved in mainstream local politics, both in New Hampshire and in New York City where she lived for many years after the Womenfolk broke up.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,The Womenfolk
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 09:57 AM

Do a search on Ebay they have their records for sale..
here is a list of albums they made:


                      ALBUMS THAT THEY PRODUCED FOR RCA IN THE EARLY 1960'S.

TITLES ARE:

1963 - WE GIVE A HOOT (A LIVE HOTTENANNY AT THE ICE HOUSE IN PASADENA)

1964 - THE WOMENFOLK

1964 - NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF THE WOMENFOLK

1965 - THE WOMENFOLK AT THE HUNGRY I

1966 - MAN oh MAN

Bob Burke


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,jason v
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 12:31 AM

hey all,
a friend of mine whom i jam with often recently remembered a lullaby his mom used to sing him called rag doll. he thinks it is the version by babs cooper. the lyrics that we know go:
"Rag doll... why are you crying?
Did your life get turned upside down?
Don't you know that little boys are growing?
Little Rag Dolls aren't supposed to frown."
   However after an exhaustive search, we cannot find the lyrics to the rest of this song. does anyone here this song.. and specifically the rest of the lyrics?! I would really really appreciate hearing anything anyone knows. I will check this thread, or i am at thelastbohemian@hotmail.com
thanks for any info anyone has!
   jason v


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Jun 06 - 05:01 PM

I have checked Google and there is a political/educator named Leni Ashmore Sorenson from I think William and Mary college. I keep wondering if that is Leni Ashmore.

I could kick myself for parting with all of my Womenfolk albums, because RCA is not going to re-release them.

tom


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: Janice in NJ
Date: 20 Jun 06 - 05:51 PM

Yes, Tom, I believe it's the same woman.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: open mike
Date: 20 Jun 06 - 09:07 PM

I think they came in just as Folk was going out!

\when did folk go out? and where did it go out to?


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: Amos
Date: 20 Jun 06 - 09:15 PM

Wll. it must have gone out with the women folk. You know where that can lead...


A


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Guest [Country Paul]
Date: 16 Sep 06 - 06:00 PM

Picking up this 2004 thread, The Womenfolk have come up for discussion on Spectropop, www.spectropop.com. You can view this 60's-pop-oriented discussion group and this thread linking from its main page, or find (and join) the discussion group at yahoogroups.com. Currently playing in the members-only music section is an earlier 45 Womenfolk member Babs Cooper made for Indigo in 1962, a version of The Innocents' first hit, "I Really Do," produced and arranged by Skip Battin (earlier of Skip & Flip, later of The Byrds, recently deceased). The record will be posted for a short time only, so if you're interested, join the discussion and get access to the music.

I don't know who'll be reading this, since it replies to a relatively-ancient post, but I hope it gets in front of the right eyes. If someone wants to hear this off-list, my e-mail is posted at my website, www.paulpayton.com.

Country Paul


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Jim in Phoenix
Date: 18 Sep 06 - 04:47 AM

I sure remember them. I had three of their albums. I wish I could find them on CD. They had the most beautiful voices and the most moving song/lyrics I've ever heard. I don't know the exact date of their start, but I DO remember listening to their albums in 1966. I know one can find their albums, used, on the internet, if one searches hard enough. The problem is, they ARE albums, vinyl 33 1/3 rpm records. I'd love to be able to find a remake of any of their albums on CD. If anyone knows, please drop me a note at jcncgcn@aol.com

thanks !


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Elaine Golden-Gealer
Date: 25 Jan 07 - 01:45 AM

I was one of the first Womenfolk...don't know where anyone from the group is now


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,bowitt
Date: 05 Feb 07 - 06:07 PM

I went to high school with Babs Cooper and we just had a reunion. We are looking for her so would appreciate any leads to bowitt@aol.com. Thanks in advance.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Cate
Date: 22 Feb 07 - 03:49 PM

Elaine,

I have all of the Womenfolk recordings but never realized that members changed until I happened upon your post. All of your voices were beautiful as were your choice of songs/lyrics. Your music is truly timeless. I was able to finally find a CD of one of the early records and have been playing it on my computer in my office at my university over the prior month. I can't count how many of my students have come to my door to inquire if this music is from a new group and how can they purchase it.

Just wanted to let you know how much the Womenfolk's music has touched so many lives, even in 2007.

Thanks

Cate


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: MyPorch
Date: 09 Jun 07 - 07:39 PM

I have created a bit of a tribute that pulls together as much information as I could find about the Womenfolk. I have pictures of 4 of their 5 albums including the back cover notes as well as links including one to a video clip of the women singing. Check it out at http://www.myporchblog.blogspot.com

Hopefully the tribute will bring more information out of the woodwork.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Barbara (Babs) Cooper
Date: 23 Jun 07 - 11:25 AM

Ron Olesko: Regarding your Womenfolk question below.

Thank you for your interest. I am here, floating in cyberspace, and some of the other Womenfolk are still around, as well. But I can't speak for them.   

"The Womenfolk at the hungry i" is a powerful live-performance album. There are two songs on that album written by Shel Silverstein: HEY NELLY NELLY (Shel Silverstein-Jim Friedman), a civil right song, and FIRST BATTALION (Bob Camp-Shel Silverstein), which an anti-war song, and still appropriate in America today as well as in the 1960s. Thanks again.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 19 Dec 01 - 10:45 AM

Okay, I'm curious now.
After seeing this post and following instructions, I can't find anyone who answered the question that this thread posed - where are the Womenfolk? I'm not referring to their albums, but what became of the 5 members of the group?

This past weekend I played a cut from the Hungry I album on my show and became curious. It was nice to see someone has resurrected this thread.

Anybody have any idea of "where are they now?"

Ron


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Babs
Date: 23 Jun 07 - 11:43 AM

Cate:

Thanks you for you comments of 22 Feb 07. Its nice to know that there are people who still appreciate our music even in 2007.

Babs Cooper


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: artbrooks
Date: 23 Jun 07 - 12:02 PM

Babs, there are many of us out here who still appreciate The Womenfolk. And, since this has come up elsewhere, would you object to my transferring the 3 LPs I have to CD, for my own use?


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Babs Cooper
Date: 24 Jun 07 - 12:16 PM

artsbooks, they are your LPs, right? Do with them as you like, for your personal use, I mean. And thanks to all of you who appreciate our music still today.

All of this is making me wonder if some of our music has been placed on some of the Internet Libraries? Please let me know if you are aware of anything happening in that department: five albums equal 56 songs.

And keep an eye on the MyPorch "Tribute To" Blog: Tom made me aware of this forum.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,lola mullen
Date: 27 Jun 07 - 01:05 PM

judy fine now goes by the name j. lalah simcoe, nee fine. she is still making music and owns a restaurant, the bluegrass grill, in charlottesville, va. her website is http://www.jlalahsimcoe.com and the restaurant menu items are delicious! hope this helps.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego
Date: 27 Jun 07 - 06:48 PM

I don't reallly know, but there is a line by Cleavon Little, in "Blazing Saddles," that might cover this territory.........


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jun 07 - 03:20 PM

Hey folks, so far I have caught up with three of the four living Womenfolk. I have updated the Womenfolk tribute on my blog to include some updated biographical information on Babs and Leni. Soon to have more on Judy aka Lalah Simcoe.

Also, hope to eventually include information about their experiences in the group.

http://myporchblog.blogspot.com/2007/06/tribute-to-womenfolk.html


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Pellucidar
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 11:37 AM

Are there any available CD's with the Womenfolk's great recording of The Last Thing On My Mind? I've looked for this song for over ten years,\. I found it once, briefly, in stereo, on the old Napster, didn't get it recorded into my library and have still been looking for it, since. Also, are there any CD's of any other music that group did, such as an old LP album reissue? Anything leading to their music would be appreciated and helpful.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: katlaughing
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 11:47 AM

I would suggest you check with Dick Greenhaus, owner of the DigiTrad and also Camsco Music. If it can be had, Dick can find it.


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Subject: RE: To: Elaine Golden-Gealer/Womenfolk
From: zeppolien
Date: 12 Jul 07 - 10:43 AM

Elaine:

your 60's singing sisters are mingling again. it seems the universe is drawing us back together. hope you will come out and play. please contact with me via the mudcat café personal page.

bc


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Bothell Jewelers & Collectibles
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 03:37 PM

I have the album 'The Womenfolk' LSP-3527 from 1966 which has 'The Last Thing on my Mind' and other great songs of that time. It is in very good condition and the cover still has the cellophane. Contact me at email bothellj.wa@verizon.net if interested or phone 425-487-2900 in the U.S.
Rachman


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Jimmy Davis
Date: 19 Jul 07 - 01:55 PM

Babs and Elaine,

Thank both of you so much for your music. In the fall of 1966 I was just getting ready to leave for basic training in the Army. Needless to say, it was a trying time for me. I heard the Womenfolk for the first time on the radio singing "The Last Thing On My Mind", and called the station for the name of the group singing. I immediately went to the Mose's Melody Shop in Little Rock, Arkansas, and bought the album. While stationed at Ft. Leonard Wood during basic training I heard the Womenfolk on the jukebox in our beer garden at the PX. I must have played that song,"The Last Thing On My Mind", a hundred times(Thank goodness it only cost a nickel each time) I still have that album, and have put it on tape so I can listen to it frequently.You, Womenfolk, have been a joy in my life since the first time I heard you at 19; I just hit 60. My wife knows all your songs, too, because I sing them all the time. Thank you for giving me the best music of my life; your music got me through some trying times in my years.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Babs
Date: 20 Jul 07 - 10:50 AM

Jimmy Davis:

It pleases me to know that our music was able to lift your spirits, and help you to get through that dangerous and stressful time in your life. "The Last Thing On My Mind" happens to be my favorite Womenfolk song, as well. You, of course, are our generation, but its rumored that there are those today who appreciate our music as well. Our heads are still swimming with this resurgence of interest in "our unique sound." Anyway Jimmy, Thank you for sharing you experience with us, and the other "Mudcatters" as well.

Babs Cooper


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Dee Mischel
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 06:47 PM

In addition to all the other beautiful music, one of my favorites by the Womenfolk was "Always On My Mind"... I believe it was on a 45..
I had a roommate who had it and I taped it for my car and of course it has long since gone by the wayside..it was one of the most beautiful renditions I have ever heard and wonder if anyone else has heard it or knows where I can find it... Thanks much.. Dee


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,GUEST- vinyl junkie
Date: 26 Jul 07 - 11:42 AM

Babs, Elaine, and any other Womenfolk memeber who happens to be reading here:

First off, I'm amused that I found this thread. But there must be something in the air. The Womenfolk's music continues to surface. Here's MY story:

I collect records - to the point that I should join "vinyl anonymous".   The collection runs the gambit from turn of the (1900) century Berliner discs and Edison cylinders, to LPs, to CDs - Classical, jazz, swing, rock? you get the picture. I listen to a lot of different stuff.

Anyway, last night in the basement, I was finally digging through several boxes of discs that had been sitting there waiting to be sorted, listened to, filed, or just tossed. And I came across "The Womenfolk" 1964 album. Even though I lean heavy towards classical music, I'll listen to most anything - at least once. (By the way, just by way of reference, I'm 41 and youngest in a large family, so grew up with the sound of the 60s from siblings, and 40s swing from my parents.) I thought I'll throw this disc on, give it listen while I'm sorting through the stacks, and most likely ditch it in the pile headed out the door.

Well, two hours later, I found myself putting it back on the stereo time and time again in-between other records I was sorting. I'm not a real big folk music fan, but your sound was great! I was surprised at how strongly this record held my attention. It's still sitting on the lid of the turntable for when I return.
So, needless to say, I've found yet another group to collect. (Now where am I gonna put another record self?)

Womenfolk members: Your music continues to please, amuse and lift the soul. Many thanks for your music, from a listener who rarely has the opportunity to thank the performer.

Andy


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Elaine Golden-Gealer (the shortest Womenfolk
Date: 29 Jul 07 - 09:37 PM

I am the long lost Womanfolk... of the long lost Womenfolk....I live in Santa Monica and have only recently started to listen to our albuns again as I transfered them to my Ipod... the harmonies are still current as were the songs... Surprised me to like the music and the singing and performances as much as I did at the time they were recorded.

Babs Cooper called me today... and we spoke for the first time in over 40 years.... now I expect to reach out to Leni and Judy (now Lalah)shortly.

Thank you all for still appreciating our music all these years later... I wrote several of the songs... and I think Babs wrote some as well.

With love,

Elaine


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: rangeroger
Date: 29 Jul 07 - 11:21 PM

I haven't been around the Mudcat for a while,lurking now and then, but a couple of weeks ago when I found this thread had been resurected I was flabbergasted to say the least.
I is really heartwarming to see the responses,especially from the original members of the group.
The Mudcat truely is a miracle and a treasure.

rr


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,To: Dee Mischel
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 06:52 PM

Dee - I think maybe you're confusing Willie Nelson's "Alway on My Mind" with Tom Paxton's "The Last Thing on My Mind" - Hm...very similar titles; never thought of that before. "The Last Thing on My Mind" was a single for "The Womenfolk," as well as on their "Man Oh Man!-The Womenfolk" album, but I don't think they recorded the Willie Nelson song.

Curiosity


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: Allan C.
Date: 08 Aug 07 - 06:17 AM

refresh


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: open mike
Date: 08 Aug 07 - 01:39 PM

It is wonderful to see the mudcat bringing people together like this...
hooray! and welcome to new members..and i am interested in hearing the Womenfolk....so will be watching for these recordings...and would like
to include them on my radio show...Laurel


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: zeppolien
Date: 08 Aug 07 - 06:17 PM

Laurel:

I'm new to The Mudcat Cafe; would like to hear more about your radio show. You can send me a message on the Mudcat Person Page if you like.

Zeppolien


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Mad Jock
Date: 09 Aug 07 - 07:12 AM

Taggart and Wright a very talented female duo used to call for "more women in folk" after hearing some call out "not more folking women".

you can hear them sing on www.sky-web.net/taggartandwright/ but it is best to see them live.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Mary Lott
Date: 09 Aug 07 - 10:03 PM

I want to tell you how much I have loved your albums. I have The Womenfolk and The Womenfolk At the Hungry-I. The music is wonderful and your harmonies great. Thank you for enriching my life.

Mary


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Subject: RE: The Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Babs - Dear Mudcatters:
Date: 12 Aug 07 - 08:29 PM

Haven't checked in for a while now, but I'm happy to see that this train just keeps on a rollin.' I've been trying to get some of those other Womenfolk to pull up a chair and offer up some threads at the Mudcat Table; glad to get some nibbles from Elaine who, as you see, has been a long time gone.

I just want to let all of you cupids know that your arrows have reached their mark. We hear you. And special thanks to the following Mudcat Café contributors.

To: Andy the vinyl junkie - the collector of 1900 Century Berliner discs and Edison cylinders, and a classical music buff. Thanks for your story; it made me laugh, and for giving The Womenfolk another chance before booting us out the door.

To: Mary Lott - your appreciation of our harmonies is music to our ears.

To: Open Mike ? I guess I was just too oblique previously. I was offering to help you get some of those recordings for your radio show; but we need to hear more about it first; what, why, who, where, when, etc. - that kind of info, you know. You can make contact via the Mudcat Personal Page as stated before.   

Knowing that all of you are listening to the our music definitely lifts my spirits. And for those of you who have expressed thoughts about reissuance of our recordings, let's just say "the idea is in the air." In the mean time stay tuned and link up with the "Tribute to The Womenfolk" blog for more Updates:

http://myporchblog.blogspot.com/2007/06/tribute-to-womenfolk.html

All of us in the group are aware of this forum now. Thanks for your continued interest & support.

Babs Cooper of
The Womenfolk


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: timoniumguy
Date: 20 Aug 07 - 06:05 PM

I have been posting threads for years trying to find The Womenfolk...I thought Leni Ashmore had the most amazing voice, When she sang lead on the Malvina Reynolds tune, I Wish your Were Here, I melted. And Babs' lead on Jinga Jing was wonderful. I loved the Hungry I album and I still laugh at "Never Wed an Old Man" And "One Man's Hand" and "Love come Tricklin Down" would still get to me if I had cd's. The harmonies on "Yesterday" from Man oh Man were great.

It is so good to see Elaine and Babs, Judy have been found.

I just wish somebody would bug RCA to release them again. They probably hate me by now!!


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Lalah
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 11:38 AM

How wonderful you are, all you lovers of The Womenfolk! Your comments and stories are a joy to read. I'm so happy to see all this interest after so many years. I hope you'll like my new music too -- check it out at jlalahsimcoe.com.

Many thanks and much love to you,
Lalah (Judy Fine)


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: timoniumguy
Date: 03 Sep 07 - 10:16 AM

I was serfing through MY space videos and there is a video of the Leni, Babs, Judi, Joyce and Jean singing, "My Heart Tells Me to Believe", my least favorite of all their stuff. But I did enjoy seeing it posted.

tom


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Jean Amos
Date: 05 Sep 07 - 11:22 PM

OK, well, I have been living in San Francisco since 1969. I taught guitar for many years - basic, ragtime and classical. It has been fun seeing this flurry of reminiscences on the web.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,DeeMischel
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 11:57 PM

Thank you for letting me know the correct name.. you are so right! I managed to find the song and now have the album it was on.. and I am so enjoying it... Thanks. Dee


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: zeppolien
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 02:55 PM

To Dee Mischel:

You are very welcome, Dee. We are currently in the process of pursuing the best possible arrangement for the re-issuance our previously recordings. It's a bit complex, but we're inching along. This is happening mainly because of people like yourself sharing your thoughts with us at The Mudcat Cafe, as well as, the fact that our group just keeps popping up on the Internet; like the TV Video currently running on myspace.com. So, stay tuned. Where's definitely more to come . . .

Babs Cooper of The Womenfolk
aka "Curiosity"


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Dee Mischel
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 07:46 PM

Thanks for the quick reply...I am thinking I've been pretty lucky.. I managed to find the following albums: We Give A Hoot with the Villagers; The Womenfolk; Never Underestimate the Power of; Man Oh Man; and At the Hungry I plus the 45 of the Last Thing On My Mind! Are there any others? All are in excellent condition and I am having so much enjoyment playing them! I am so glad I found this site so I could enjoy them once again..and keep up inching along..I have no doubt that more people would love to be able to listen to them as well! Take care.. Dee


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: zeppolien
Date: 12 Sep 07 - 05:19 PM

See the following link:

http://myporchblog.blogspot.com/2007/06/tribute-to-womenfolk.html

At the end of the blog there's a comment by KEES about additional recordings.

"A group that made a lot of good songs. My favourites One man's hand, and Love come a-trickling down.
Addition to the discography: besides the LP's, they also had a 45 on RCA, My heart tells me to believe b/w The way I feel (Gordon Lightfoot song). Two tracks not on LP.
I also have their live recording of Malvina Reynolds' song "You can't make a turtle come out", source unknown."


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Susan in Baltimore
Date: 16 Sep 07 - 02:40 PM

I stumbled upon this forum searching for the words to the Malvina Reynolds' song, "I wish you were here", as recorded by the Womenfolk. I was thrilled that so many other people still love this fabulous group. I discovered them back in the Napster days (I don't regret the larceny one bit - how else would I have found them?) and was crushed when their material wasn't available on cd. So I did what a lot of others have done. I bought the records on eBay and made my own very scratchy cds. Their harmonies can make me cry and their song selection was superb. I love them all like sisters. Unlike some other contributors to this forum, I would be willing to pay $80 for their collected works on a clean cd. I hope it happens!!


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,vinyl junkie
Date: 03 Oct 07 - 03:38 PM

Hello, Womenfolk. It's the Vinyl Junkie again.

Three months since last I wrote an entry (July 26).   Not only did your self-titled 1964 album make the cut during my night of "purging the superfluous" from that pile of unsorted records, but I'm still listening to it here and there, as the weeks go by. I even introduced (maybe more accurately RE-introduced) the Womenfolk to my oldest brother and his wife. Both have an affinity for folk groups and folk music.

They remembered "Little Boxes" and I have to admit that it was this title that really made me listen to the album, only because I remembered others in the family singing bits and pieces of this song over the years. Amusing social commentary aside, this is not what has held my attention all this time.

In addition to the titles that others have praised here, I have to say that the raw power of "Don't You Rock 'Em Daddy-O" is tremendous. And your arrangement of "The Gypsy Rover" is the best I've heard - possibly my favorite cut on the album. The harmony and blend of your voices is so warm over the lilting guitar work.

Thanks again, for putting the excitement of discovery back into what I feared was becoming a slightly jaded listener/collector.

Andy


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,jayjay
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 02:23 PM

The Womenfolk and Simon and Garfunkel were the first music I listened to at the age of 2. So their blend and harmonies are ingrained in my music vocabulary. I probably have gone more than 25 years without hearing any of the songs but still sing them to myself when something triggers the memory. This morning I woke up with "The Maybe Song" in my head and now I'm trying to search the internet for the complete lyrics. Nothing. That song was poetry and music combined. Can anyone help me? All I've found was this website and one album on ebay but it's not one of the three that I know by heart.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Bill
Date: 24 Nov 07 - 08:50 PM

I saw the Womenfolk in concert at Texas Tech in Lubbock in either 1967 or 1968. They were the opening act for an up and coming new comedian named Bill Cosby.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Martha Woodroof
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 03:38 PM

I'm a public radio reporter doing a story on a recent Womenfolk get together. Could Mr or Ms Mudcat PLEASE e-mail me at mwoodroof@gmail.com? I'd love to chat with you over the phone about your blog! Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 04:17 PM

Can anyone please tell me where i can download any of there songs?

Many thanks


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: zeppolien
Date: 30 Nov 07 - 01:05 PM

To Our Mudcat Cafe Friends:

Listen for Martha Woodroof's Interview "The Womenfolk Reunite" on WMRA (NPR) Nov. 30, 2007:   Revisiting the past, musically, professionally, and personally, with four "really strong women."
http://www.wmra.org/

And please join us on myspace.com.
http://www.myspace.com/1960sthewomenfolk

To Bill re: Texas Tech concert in Lubbock with Bill Cosby. I think it was more like 1964, Texas Bill. That was a "sizzling" concert.
The crowd was wonderful, and we had a great time. Thanks for that memory.

The Womenfolk


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,momoreendel
Date: 29 Dec 07 - 02:17 PM

Holy Cow!! I have died and gone to heaven! I was givin my one and only Womenfolk album in Germany in 1967. I've just about played it thin. It was and is my favorite music by my favorite musicians. As a woman with a big deep voice, it was a revalation to hear that beautiful BIG deep sound comming though loud and clear. I was always hushed up and told to BLEND. I feel Blessed to own my one album. Will await a re-release on cd with great anticipation.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Kees
Date: 08 Jan 08 - 04:35 PM

A reunion, it seems...
see My Space


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,K
Date: 08 Jan 08 - 04:40 PM

Even a video on Myspace now!


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: Barry T
Date: 09 Jan 08 - 12:49 AM

Like others in this thread, I applaud the sincerity of the discussion and celebrate the reappearance of the members of this wonderful group. I, too, hope that there may be an audible outcome in the form of a re-release of their music.

My favourite song? Elaine Gealer's 'Once Upon a Springtime'... a ballad about a young soldier going off to war, never to return. Stunning lyrics that are as relevant and evocative today as the day she wrote them!


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Harry Lime
Date: 12 Jan 08 - 03:32 PM

For decades I thought I was the only person who knew about the Womenfolk. I spent years getting the five albums that were issued. As far as I know there were only five albums. RCA should be pressured to release the albums on CD or, if not, allow Rhino or other similar labels to make clean copies. I'm tired of listening to the copies made from vinyl.
Pressure from the public helped Warner to release the four mid-70's Gordon Lightfoot albums on CD, the same could happen here.
Everyone who reads this thread, get on the phone to RCA management for nearly forgotten artists and say you wish the above to happen.
Incidentally, the best version of "Sunrise, Sunset" I've heard.
Harry Lime


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST, Chris :Guest
Date: 15 Jan 08 - 04:00 PM

I don't care where the Womenfolk are, but I do want to tell them how much pleasure their music gave me from the first time I heard their song 'Womenfolk' on the BBC back in the 60s. I wish they had recorded more in their folk vein though I don't think their last album I bought was one of their best except 'The Maybe Song'. There is no better verdion of 'The last thing on my mind.' Utterly outstanding. I hope one of them reads this to realise how much pleasure they gave.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Elaine Golden-Gealer
Date: 24 Jan 08 - 02:25 AM

Hi Barry,

Thank you very much for your comments about the first song I ever wrote..."Once Upon a Springtime".... I heard about your comments from Lala (Judy Fine) my Womenfolk buddy when we were on the phone the other day.

Best wishes and God's Speed for 2008

Elaine egg22@roadrunner.com


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,paladin
Date: 06 Feb 08 - 04:28 PM

I was lucky enough to have seen the Womenfolk live at the Bitter End, in Greenwich Village back in the good ol' days of folk.
They really were a first rate group; good voices, good guitar (I think they had a bass backup player at the Bitter End, not officially part of the group.)

Sad to say, the Bitter End is now "The Longest running ROCK club in New York." (And the hungry i became a strip joint prior to my getting to San Francisco; bummer.)
If anyone buys the personally made $80 CDs from the previously mentioned site, you should make some copies and post their availability. Surely copyright has passed by now.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Feb 08 - 07:56 PM

Check out this story about the Womenfolk in the Washington DC City Paper.

http://washingtoncitypaper.com/display.php?id=34558


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: zeppolien
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 05:06 PM

LATEST UPDATES ON THE WOMENFOLK; THE SAGA CONTINUES.

The Womenfolk on MySpace

Last Thing on My Mind


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 08:58 PM

Let me try this again, with a proper link.

Check out this story about the Womenfolk in the Washington DC City Paper.

http://washingtoncitypaper.com/display.php?id=34558


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Womenfolk Downloads
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 11:01 AM

Have you seen "The Womenfolk Store" and blog 3-11-08 on MySpace?

http://www.myspace.com/1960sthewomenfolk


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Womenfolk Downloads
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 10:24 AM

LET'S TRY AGAIN: Womenfolk downloads of our previously recorded songs are now available on our MySpace website . Here's the link:

The Womenfolk Store on MySpace

STAY TUNED: more songs will be added as we make contact with the publishers of our previously recorded songs.

The Womenfolk
Babs, Leni, Jean & Lalah


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: Celtaddict
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 10:36 PM

Wow! Great news! I just saw this thread and was excited to think that I would hear again a song I heard only once, ever in my life. It was 'Womenfolk' and I have looked for it, and sung it (yes, it impressed me so much that I can sing a good half of it from one hearing 40 years ago); the harmonies were wonderful. I never had an album. Now I am eager! Thanks for making downloads available!!!


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: Celtaddict
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 10:44 PM

The site sounds good; I eagerly await 'Womenfolk' (the song) being added.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Babs To Celtaddict
Date: 13 Mar 08 - 05:16 PM

Hang in there. We're working on making "Womenfolk" - as well as many other of our recordings, available for downloading. In the mean time, you can listen to "Womenfolk" for free on Myspace:

Sample Womenfolk Audios on MySpace
   

Thank You Mudcat Cafe.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Apr 08 - 06:01 PM

UPDATE: The Womenfolk Vol.5: (1966) Man Oh Man! The Womenfolk - is now available on Amazon MP3 Downloads. This set includes Tom Paxton's "The Last Thing on My Mind."

WOMENFOLK MP3 DOWNLOADS


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Amazon MP3 Downolads
Date: 06 Apr 08 - 06:05 PM

Link to Amazon MP3 Downloads

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00178FKX6/ref=dm_sp_adp?ie=UTF8&qid=1207508991&sr=102-12


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,The WF on iTunes
Date: 24 Apr 08 - 10:23 AM

"The Womenfolk Vol.5: (1964) Man Oh Man! The Womenfolk" is now available on the "iTunes Store".


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 19 Jun 08 - 12:53 PM

Yes, that is her - Leni Ashmore Sorensen.
She now has her phd and is the african-american historian at monticello.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 01:00 PM

The Womenfolk have a Myspace page with recordings here (click), and five albums of MP3 downloads are available from Amazon here (click).

-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Ramona
Date: 09 Aug 08 - 03:25 PM

I am almost happy. Today I bought "Man Oh Man!" from i-tunes. I had never heard the record before. It sounds good.

My true mission is to download the Hungry i album. My late uncle had it (and the LP is probably in my aunt's loft). I loved it so much as a child. Yesterday I tried to download it from Amazon, but they refused to sell me it as I am in the UK!

I hope it will go on i-tunes as I think that's the only way non-US residents can access the albums.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,The Womenfolk
Date: 15 Aug 08 - 12:12 PM

Ramona:

Thanks you for your comment. All of our albums should be on iTunes UK/European Union, as well as iTunes Australia/New Zealand, Canada & Japan by now. We made two tours to the U.K. back then and certainly want to include all of British friends, (and all of our friends around the globe), in presenting our albums as downloads to be enjoyed in 2008. Let us know how it works out. The Hungy i perform is a "live" performance album and best demonstrate what we did "on stage."   Again, thanks for the update.

Babs, Lalah, Leni & Jean
The Womenfolk

p,s, To learn more of what we are about , check out our mypace site:
The Womenfolk on MySpace


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Ramona
Date: 16 Aug 08 - 09:20 AM

Hello

I have checked again. Only "Man oh Man!" is on UK i-tunes. If there is any way of checking up on them, I would love to buy the others.

R


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,To Ramona
Date: 16 Aug 08 - 11:42 AM

We will have our contacts check into it, and sent futher word later. Thank you for your perseverance. Its definitely a glitch.

Babs Cooper
The Womenfolk


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Ramona
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 01:35 PM

UK i-tunes now has volumes 1,2,3 & 5.

I'm still waiting for the live album, which I have not heard since the 60s.

Well done for getting the others on.

"Ramona"


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 01:45 PM

I downloaded all five albums at amazon.mudcat.org, and I'm really enjoying them (and Amazon paid Mudcat a bit for the privilege).

I'd like to see more reissues like this. There were so many good folk recordings on the Elektra label, and so few are available.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: Peace
Date: 24 Aug 08 - 12:56 AM

Subject: RE: The Maybe Song
From: Roger Himler
Date: 08 Jul 98 - 12:44 AM

From the singing of Ernie Sheldon and Joyce James

Sure is today, with a kiss on the way,
Will there be more kisses tomorrow.
And many more kisses the day after that.
More kisses to lend or borrow.
Or will we be kissing in vain?

Maybe you and maybe me,
Maybe only yet to be,
Maybe yes and maybe no,
Maybe this alone to know.
Maybe thunder, maybe rain,
Maybe wonder, maybe pain.
Maybe once, maybe twice,
Maybe fire, maybe ice,
Maybe laughter, maybe tears,
Maybe moments, maybe years.

Time after time, without reason or rhyme,
My thoughts wing away with the swallow.
And then I start dreaming of you and of me,
And all of the days to follow.
Now will they bring pleasure or pain.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: Peace
Date: 24 Aug 08 - 12:57 AM

JayJay: They the lyrics you're looking for?


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: Leadfingers
Date: 24 Aug 08 - 03:29 PM

100


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Miles Hoffmann
Date: 03 Sep 08 - 05:51 AM

I got introduced to the Womenfolk in Dec of 1964 on a late night AM radio program called "Guest Star" with Lou Crosby.

"Guest Star" was a program sponsored by the US Savings Bonds. From then, going forward into the 70's I managed to find the debut album from our local library and made a cassette recording.

Since then, I forgot about The Womenfolk ... until into this decade when I stumbled across a "45" with their interesting tune . "Little Boxes in a thrift store.

..which revived my interest in this group. Going on more thrift store ventures, to my surprise, I did find that LP transcription of "Guest Star" mentioned above...and now have a safe copy of that original program.

And, thank goodness with the presence of eBay, I have now 5 copies of their self titled album, plus their "actual" debut album that they recorded with the Villagers.

It's fun to live great memories again ....


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,The Womenfolk
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 02:08 PM

To Ramona and all who have had problems downloading The Womenfolk Vol. 4: The Womenfolk at The Hungry I (Live) Album from The iTunes Stores.

The technicians are now telling us that the problem is resolved, and the full album is available for purchase; we've got our fingers crossed.

Thank you for your patience,
Babs, Jean, Lalah & Leni

p.s. - And thanks to The Mudcat Cafe for this continuing chat. We love hearing from all of you.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Ramona
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 12:56 PM

As I write, "Hey Nelly Nelly" is being loaded into my i-tunes. For some reason this one song was not available until now. Thanks to all the Womenfolk for getting their work to us again.

I had previously only heard the Hungry i LP.

From a very happy "Ramona"


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,The Womenfolk
Date: 02 Oct 08 - 11:43 AM


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST, To Ramona
Date: 02 Oct 08 - 11:46 AM

Thanks for letting us know Ramona.

The Womenfolk
Jean, Lalah, Babs & Leni


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Tom in Ventura
Date: 28 Nov 08 - 11:30 PM

Hi, Womenfolk!

I found out about you by doing a Google search for Jean Amos. I had been searching for a copy of Two for the Road (RCA LSP 2244) and after finding one, I was wondering what happened to Jean (and Penny, too). Thomas's tribute page came up in the search and now I am catching up on the music of the Womenfolk. I can't believe I've been missing out on such great recordings and performances for the last 40-plus years. I'm kicking myself for being such an unfocused, easily distracted young teen in those days, succumbing to the British Invasion of sounds while missing so much of those folk era years. Now it is time to catch up. Thank you so much for your beautiful harmonies, melodies, and immensely enjoyable performances. The song "Water Wheel" is a favorite. I know a song is working when I get goose bumps and misty eyed.

Tom
Ventura, CA


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,dan g in Alberta
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 03:26 PM

I'm one of the lucky few who still have a couple of Womenfolk
albums and have transferred most of them to tape and even had
a friend transfer some selections to CD. Stumbled on their music back in the late sixties when I played cuts of their albums on the radio here in Canada and by the time I fell in love with their music they had already disbanded and I've been searching yard sales and thrift shops for their albums ever since. I too have always wondered what happened to them and it's nice to hear they've gotten back together even if it's just to socialize and reminisce.. have spent many hours with their sensational harmonies, terrific voices and
wonderful lyrics and they always bring a smile,and brighten my day.
Specially enjoy their anti-war stuff like "Hey Nelly Nelly" and "First Battalion" from their Hungry i album. To the WOMENFOLK members= "Thank You" for the pleasure you've given me over the last 40+ years and all the BEST in the future !
dan g in Lethbridge Alberta


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,John in Tatsfield, England
Date: 17 Dec 08 - 09:17 PM

I cannot believe that after all these years during which I thought I was the only fan of the Womenfolk in existence, that I now tumble on this website and find the ladies themselves are actually contributing. Hi girls! I have always enjoyed the memory of your appearance on British TV back in the 60s as a result of which I quite naturally fell in love with all of you and immediately went and bought the LP's which I still treasure today.Have always regretted not seeing you live but finding this website bridges 40 odd years of highly enjoyable listening to your special brand of music. In order to get to this website easily, I wil lodge this link under "Favourites". What could be a more appropriate heading?!


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Jan 09 - 07:16 PM

I've added a post about my recent experience unearthing a 1966 television performance of the Womenfolk. Alas, I wish I could share it with you all, but unfortunately I was only able to view it at the Paley Center in New York.

http://myporchblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/esoteric-television-dial-m-for-music.html


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Tom in Ventura
Date: 18 Jan 09 - 03:44 PM

Thomas,
The Womenfolk were on Ed Sullivan Show #810, November 22, 1964, and performed "Sail Away" and "Rock-Em Daddy-o", according to The Ed Sullivan Show episode guide.

Jean Amos(or Penny Palmer),
If you read this, could you please answer two questions about your album, Penny and Jean - Two for the Road? What is the instrument that starts out "I Never Will Marry"? Is it a woman's voice or a musical saw? And what are the words at the beginning of the chorus to "Old Banshee":
_____ ______ you trusting lovers
_____ ______, listen well to me
Strange things, evil things are near you
Listen to the Old Banshee

Thanks! It's only been bugging me for, uh, 48 years!

Tom in Ventura, CA


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Mike (mrab7163) in Texas
Date: 22 Jan 09 - 05:04 PM

I don't know why I felt I was the only one that ever heard of The Womenfolk. Fot an awful long time most people I talked to just shook there heads no when I asked if they had ever heard their music. My love affair with them started in the 60s. When I found The Mudcat everything changed, I found other "Womenfolkers" and have downloaded every soung they have made available on the net. I wore out two of their "Never Underestimate The Power Of The Womenfold" albums and thought I would never have the pleasure of hearing the rest. Their exceptional blending of harmony brought chills to your body when listening to them. oh sure there were and are other groups that sing well and harmonize, but there will never be another group like "The Womenfolk". They had a real quality that will never be equaled again. They made a lonely and borng tour of duty in the Aluetian Islands more bearable. To them I send my sincere thanks for a talent seldom seen or heard in the music business. God Bless you all.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Penny and Jean
Date: 24 Jan 09 - 02:35 PM

Thanks for the thoughts, we're enjoying them. The instrument which opens "I never will marry" is a theramin, of all things. The odd word in the chorus of "Banshee" is wiieera - a nonsense word? Gaelic? Don't know.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Babs of The Womenfolk
Date: 24 Jan 09 - 04:01 PM

To: Tom in Ventura, CA; dan g in Lethbridge, Alberta; John in Tatsfeld, England and Mike in Texas:

Wow guys - such accolades! Your enthusiasm for our sound and our act continues to blow me away. The perspective that comes with the passage of time has proven that we did indeed have something very special to offer back then and the sound still holds today. Its just that trying to hold five alpha-females together, (all of whom sang, looked good enough & played guitar), was a daunting task as your can imagine. Be that as it may, I, for one, have been thoroughly enjoying all of the cyberspace activity around our group since Thomas Otto first stirred thing up (and got us talking to each other again) in 2007 with his original Tribute to The Womenfolk:

http://myporchblog.blogspot.com/2007/06/tribute-to-womenfolk.html

At this point, every recording we ever made is now available on Amazon.com/MP3 Downloads, and The iTunes Store ? including the long lost singles: My Heart Tells Me To Believe & The Way I Feel. And Lalah's (solo) Lightspeed Album 2007 ? is also available there. Now comes the discussion about the television shows: Red Skelton, Ed Sullivan, Steve Allen, Hullabaloo, Mike Douglas and one of my favorites, The BBC's ? Tonight in Person. So we are continuing to piece together this patchwork quilt of our time together. But, its not easy because we're on our own, and of course we're all trying to survive in our present day lives. At least three of us really want to start performing again even though time and distance and issues around the almighty dollar have been getting in our way.

But, be that as it may, all of you are so sweet. Thank you for your on-going support. We are eternally grateful for The Mudcat Café (and Tom's myporch blog) for the continuing discussion about The Womenfolk. And even though lately we haven't been able to rotate our tracks (technical problems) on our myspace site, in order to offer samples of the different ablums, we are still there. The blog entries go back to 2007 and you'll find some new pictures there as well. If you haven't already done so, please join us at:

www.myspace.com/1960sthewomenfolk

So, Tom, dan g, John & Mike ? and all of you contributing Mudcatters. We hear you and Thanks Again!

Babs Cooper
The Womenfolk


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,jayjay
Date: 18 May 09 - 04:25 AM

Peace,

A belated thank you for the words to the song (I haven't visited this site for a while). Of course I now have been able to download them and have them at hand. Please indulge me when I say that as a 2-3 year old (odd as it sounds) these songs sunk to the core of me "time after time without reason or rhyme as I thought of the days to follow". I have never heard harmonies and blends just like that - before or since. I'm hapy to have access to them again!


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Tom_in_Mpls
Date: 10 Aug 09 - 10:29 PM

Every couple years for the last 10 years I have done a websearch for "The Womenfolk" and turned up nothing. Which was disappointing because their albums were a part of my upbringing. I still have the original "Womenfolk" vinyl and it is playing now. I enjoyed reading this and reading thru the various blogs and look forward to a 5-CD set by the 2009 Holidays.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Christina
Date: 25 Aug 09 - 12:17 PM

Hi Babs -

I remember listening to a recording you made of "Honest I Do" back in the 1960s. It was far superior in quality and feeling to the chart-making version by The Innocents.

Is there a copy of this song performed by you still available?

I have searched many years for any news of you. Today, I was delighted to find your artistry with "The Womenfolk" on MySpace. Excellent work. Please consider a reunion recording session of additional songs.

My best to you and your "Womenfolk."

Christina


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Kate Vachon
Date: 13 Dec 09 - 11:46 PM

Joyce James (Gibbs) was my neighbor and good friend in Brooklyn and later in New Hampshire. I just found this forum and am fascinated to hear of all the recent activity. I'm so sorry she's not around to share in the "revival!"

After Joyce died in 2001, I put together a CD for her friends with selected tracks from the albums and some later recordings of her post-Womenfolk performances. Jean, Lalah, Babs & Leni - if you have any interest in copies, I'll be glad to send. Please contact me off-list - kcvachon@gmail.com.

Peace to all.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Cory
Date: 28 Dec 09 - 01:26 PM

My mom was an original member of the Womenfolk - Terry Harley.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 12:05 AM

the albums and songs for the Womenfolk are available on Itunes. I have the vinyl album of never underestimate the power of the womenfolk, and got the Itunes version downloaded to my IPOD.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,chowfunny
Date: 16 Mar 10 - 11:13 PM

The Womenfolk now have their own website, named appropriately enough, http://thewomenfolk.com/

Find out about them in their own words, view some pictures, and find out where you can download their songs.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Country Paul
Date: 08 Apr 11 - 01:23 AM

I hope Babs Cooper is still following this thread. Babs, I posted here several years ago re: Spectropop (www.spectropop.com) and your Indigo Records release of "Honest I Do," which is different from but as enjoyable as The Innocents' original version. Now coms a Spectropop inquiry from someone about a song youdid, "How Am I Gonna Leave You?" He'd like to know if it's really you, the year of release, what label it was on, and any other infoirmation a music fan would get excited about. If you don't want to join the Spectropop Yahoogroups discussion group, you can send me the info off-line at phd45@verizon.net.

I've also checked out the Womenfolk website and the Tom Otto links; nice to see you recognized with a good website and by a sincere fan. Unlike some, I DO really like "My Heart Tells Me to Belive" - very pop, yes, but as catchy as a briarpatch!


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 08 Apr 11 - 09:21 AM

Menopause got them out of the mood for singing folk songs!

GfS


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,David Steiner
Date: 23 Nov 11 - 11:13 AM

I wore out the first album and finally tracked down good copies of everything they recorded. They always struck me as the female version of the Limeliters, never quite sure whether to be Folk or Contemporary, and never able to have a real hit. Their first album is still their best. It's great to know that they went on to have wonderful, productive lives.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST
Date: 04 May 12 - 12:56 AM

I am nearly 69 and still love your albums. I am going to try to transfer them to cd's so I can listen to them in the car. My kids grew up hearing them and now my grandchildren will hear them as well.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Jun 12 - 11:58 AM

I first heard The Womenfolk on the TV program "Hootenanny" back in the summer of 1966 (I think). The date is foggy, but their performance glued me to my chair. The song they sang was "The Last Thing On My Mind". From the beginning chords I was mesmerized. I didn't know people could sing like that. I remember how they sat, the words they sang, even what they wore. They helped a little girl realize there was beauty in the human voice and I've been singing ever since. Ladies - I bow to you!


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,GUEST
Date: 03 Jul 12 - 09:29 PM

Hoping to contact Jean Amos. We knew one another 40+ years ago in California. The last time I heard from her was in the mid 60's. After that we lost touch.

BB


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,TimoniumGuy
Date: 20 Jul 12 - 03:24 PM

I think I remember seeing The Womenfolk on the old Joey Bishop show and they sang "Hey Nelly Nelly", and "The Ballad of Murder Incorporated" very deadpan in their presentation of the later- quite fun.
It is so good to see that folks still remember them, and they have good lives.
I also think I remember "The Best is Yet to Come" used in a commercial, or am I bongers.


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST
Date: 07 May 14 - 02:07 PM

Where can I get the lyrics to the song "Womenfolk" by the folk group Womenfolk in 1964?


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Subject: RE: Where are the Womenfolk?
From: GUEST,Barbara Cooper of The Womenfolk
Date: 02 Dec 14 - 11:09 AM

http://thewomenfolk.com/


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