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catspaw49 08 Oct 01 - 05:19 PM
DougR 08 Oct 01 - 05:04 PM
SINSULL 08 Oct 01 - 04:24 PM
Troll 08 Oct 01 - 04:07 PM
Jack the Sailor 08 Oct 01 - 03:59 PM
Chicken Charlie 08 Oct 01 - 03:32 PM
Peg 08 Oct 01 - 03:26 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: thoughts on Clinton
From: catspaw49
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 05:19 PM

If I had to blame it on something, it would be Richard Nixon's paranoia and the journalists that uncovered it. Don't get me wrong, I was glad they did, but two things subsequently happened and neither was of any benefit. Because we saw way the FBI and CIA could be abused and how they had been operating, we went overboard (the "American Way") and decided to disembowel both organizations. At the same time we began to put a premium on the "Investigative Journalist." Everything and everybody became fair game, to the smallest minutiae. I didn't care that Billy Carter took a leak in front of Air Force One and I didn't give a shit if the Ford kids did drugs. I didn't really care if Reagan couldn't remeber jackshit so he kept a box of clippings anymore than I gave a damn about a guy gettin' his hat blown.

Now I know this wasn't all Nixon, but it was then that these two things came together in a way that has kept us from having a better Intel community as well as getting the best people in office. We have axed presidential candidates off at the knees for things that would never have mattered 50 years ago. Fifty years ago......Could you even imagine Eisenhower taking a piss? He was the President fer chrissakes and we may all not have loved him, but we gave him a private life that was private as we had done for many years before with other presidents.

Any elected official's politics have always been fair game and even some of their mannerisms and speech patterns have been the fodder of many a comedian, but when we start taking that crap seriously as we have in the past 30 years, we will get what we deserve. We are completely pathetic in this sense. A person's ability has nothing to do with it anymore.

Spaw.....Yeah, I'm pissed

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Subject: RE: BS: thoughts on Clinton
From: DougR
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 05:04 PM

Well Peg I agree on at least one thing. It sure does put a different "spin" on the Clinton situation.

Clinton is history.

Why don't we all agree that he was a GREAT president, better maybe than any preceding president, and probably better than any president to come. Let's also agree that he was the darling of the women voters and that organization that presents itself as the spokesperson for all women, and finally, let us all agree that he has a fine eye for a good cigar. Then maybe you liberals will let the poor man rest and enjoy his retirement. :>)


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Subject: RE: BS: thoughts on Clinton
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 04:24 PM

Just around the time that the the Millenium celebration terrorist attacks were thwarted, a Senior Government official (sorry, I didn't note his name at the time) stated that if the American people had any idea of the number and scope of terrorist plots that had been stopped within hours of their planned commencement, they would would be afraid to go about their normal lives.

The attention paid to Clinton's penis was business as usual - partisan politics. Unfortunately, Clinton himself caused the additional waste with his lies about his relationship with "that woman". To imply that all other government activities stopped is ludicrous. To suggest that this particular attack or a similar one would have been avoided had Clinton's sex life been ignored is at best naive.
Mary, Liberal Democrat

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Subject: RE: BS: thoughts on Clinton
From: Troll
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 04:07 PM

Ho Hum. Another explaination of how it wasn't Clintons fault. It was all the GOP or the Democrats who wouldn't back him or something. Never him. Never that HE might have been wrong.
Nope! It was all THEM

Oh well, enough historical apologia for one day.


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Subject: RE: BS: thoughts on Clinton
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 03:59 PM

Up until recently all you heard about bush was jokes about how he looked and how he spoke. May it is better to get behind a president and support him, until the next election. The important issue is not how he is doing but what he is doing.

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Subject: RE: BS: thoughts on Clinton
From: Chicken Charlie
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 03:32 PM

There was an article in Atlantic Monthly before WTC which explained why we had no agents on the ground in Afghanistan: the CIA doesn't like assignments where the danger of diarrhea is significant. If you can't handle a particular job from a computer terminal in Arlington, that job is not likely to get done. Field work? Too strenuous.


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Subject: BS: thoughts on Clinton
From: Peg
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 03:26 PM

A friend forwarded this to me. It certainly puts an interesting spin on things.

(written by Bella Grossman)

Bombing the World Trade Center is a big story.

You know what's not a big story? Clinton's sex life.

The GOP and the whore media spent nine years rooting around in Clinton's zipper for the big story.

The GOP constantly called it "a constitutional crisis." The GOP made that non-story the focus of everything for nine years. The GOP told us it was "crucial" that Paula Jones got her day in court.

Henry Hyde said "the flag was falling" over Monica's lips. The GOP had their hero, Louis Freeh, chasing Clinton's sex life with more agents than investigated TWA Flight 800 and the Oklahoma City massacre COMBINED.

Think about that sentence for a minute.

The GOP swarmed the state of Arkansas trying to find some woman who would give them some juicy details about what was behind Clinton's zipper.

They chased Liz Gracen to Japan, using your tax dollars and several trained agents who could've been looking into bin Laden's activities, instead. Meanwhile, terrorists were burrowing into our society, trying to fit in.

Maybe if Louis Freeh had spent more time doing his goddamn job pursuing terrorists instead of concentrating so much on Clinton's zipper, they might have found something. How many tens of millions did the FBI spend investigating Clinton? And what if all that time and all that money had been spent searching for terrorists instead? How much time did Intelligence Committee Chairman Shelby spend attacking Clinton instead of terrorists? Shelby was looking into Clinton's zipper instead of doing his damn job. And what if the Media had spent the last 2 years reporting on terrorism instead of sex?

When Clinton attacked Bin Laden, he got nothing but vicious criticism from the GOP. (And, of course, the weenie Democrats stood silent while they did it.) They called it Wagging the Dog. They could have said "Hit him again, harder," but that would have taken attention away from their investigation of the size and shape of the Presidential member.

Remember how many years Rush and Liddy and Hannity and O'Reilly spent wondering which way the Presidential member tilted? That was very, very, very important to the Republican Party.

While bin Laden was recruiting and training his army of pilots, the GOP and the FBI was busy profiling Clinton's cock.

The GOP has been screaming "The idiot bombed an aspirin factory" when he went after bin Laden. While being hunted by the press and the hateful GOP, Bill Clinton was doing his job. Clinton was the only one doing his job the last few years. Any time Clinton took action in America's interests, the GOP and the whore press screamed that "Clinton was trying to distract us" from THEIR nine-year zipper hunt, when he was just doing his job. So I want you to remember...

While Orrin Hatch, Dan Burton, Henry Hyde, John Ashcroft, Newt Gingrich and the crooked Supreme Court were telling us it was very, very, very, very important to get every tiny detail about Monica and Bill, and it was so important they spent perhaps a hundred million dollars investigating that matter...

...all the while, bin Laden was busy renting flight simulators and making plane reservations.

Look at the price WE have paid for the GO

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