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BS: Rush Limbaugh

catspaw49 09 Oct 01 - 01:15 PM
GUEST,Al Franken 09 Oct 01 - 01:10 PM
Troll 09 Oct 01 - 12:47 PM
DougR 09 Oct 01 - 12:42 PM
Steve in Idaho 09 Oct 01 - 11:16 AM
Jack the Sailor 09 Oct 01 - 10:03 AM
catspaw49 09 Oct 01 - 08:53 AM
Donuel 09 Oct 01 - 08:50 AM
catspaw49 09 Oct 01 - 08:49 AM
Donuel 09 Oct 01 - 08:46 AM
GUEST,just a nobody 09 Oct 01 - 08:39 AM
Donuel 09 Oct 01 - 08:33 AM
Troll 09 Oct 01 - 08:31 AM
GUEST,just a nobody 09 Oct 01 - 08:18 AM
GUEST,conservative 09 Oct 01 - 08:13 AM
GUEST,conservative 09 Oct 01 - 08:09 AM
Wolfgang 09 Oct 01 - 06:20 AM
marty D 09 Oct 01 - 02:43 AM
GUEST,Boab 09 Oct 01 - 01:27 AM
Jack the Sailor 08 Oct 01 - 11:37 PM
CarolC 08 Oct 01 - 10:52 PM
Donuel 08 Oct 01 - 10:51 PM
Troll 08 Oct 01 - 10:48 PM
CarolC 08 Oct 01 - 10:43 PM
GUEST 08 Oct 01 - 10:38 PM
Donuel 08 Oct 01 - 10:33 PM
Troll 08 Oct 01 - 10:26 PM
GUEST,just a nobody 08 Oct 01 - 10:22 PM
Donuel 08 Oct 01 - 10:17 PM
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Benjamin 08 Oct 01 - 09:55 PM
GUEST,just a nobody 08 Oct 01 - 09:46 PM
Lonesome EJ 08 Oct 01 - 09:45 PM
Donuel 08 Oct 01 - 09:43 PM
John Hardly 08 Oct 01 - 09:33 PM
Donuel 08 Oct 01 - 09:23 PM
GUEST,just a nobody 08 Oct 01 - 09:15 PM
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catspaw49 08 Oct 01 - 06:24 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Oct 01 - 01:15 PM

I liked your book there "Al" but you win the "Idiot" award for that triple post.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: GUEST,Al Franken
Date: 09 Oct 01 - 01:10 PM

Limbaugh should only be viewed in terms of entertainment value. It is virtually impossible to keep tally of his factual errors, faulty logic, and sheer misinterpretation of things. For documentation on this, see my book Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot. Even most rational conservatives take him with a grain of salt.

p.s. Before you criticize the book title, look up Big, Fat, and Idiot in the dictionary. One can make a good case for the accuracy of all three.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: Troll
Date: 09 Oct 01 - 12:47 PM

Thanks, Steve.
'Spaw,I expected some nasty posts but not the degree of vituperation that was generated. So much for the idea that people are gracious to those in adversity even if they don't agree with them.

troll


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: DougR
Date: 09 Oct 01 - 12:42 PM

People who listen to radios enjoy the same option that people have who tune in to the Mudcat. If they don't like what they hear, and they don't like what they read, turn the radio off. If they don't like what is available to read, don't read it.

Carol, I cannot understand why you are so opposed to Limbaugh earning his living as a talk-show host. People who find him offensive don't have to listen to him! If he has as many listeners as the press reports that he has, quite a few people do enjoy listening to him. Several million evidently. Why should they not be permitted to listen to whatever they want to?

Isn't that a bit like favoring censorship?

Perhaps those of you who wish to have him silenced approve of censorship if it is something you do not approve of? :>)

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 09 Oct 01 - 11:16 AM

Hmmmm - bit of a correction here. The "Politically correct" wording for folks with problems is "Challenged." Since I am so dang challenged most of the time I'll try to be succinct.

I only heard Mr. Limbaugh speak once and that was about women and their place not being an equal one. It was about this time that several of us were working on a forum for battered women at the university I was attending. So it is interesting to hear the variety, and intensity, of the debate!

Anyone - I said anyone - who struggles with the challenges the majority of us take for granted is to be empathized with.

But no sympathy - sympathy is between shit and syphillus in the dictionary where it ought to be. To empathize is to provide acknowledgement of the condition with support for the recovery. To sympathize is to feel sorry for - a pity pot - and Mr. Limbaugh does not appear to want sympathy. Good for him I say!

America needs all Her heros - left and right of the center - so my hopes are for a recovery. And if not I am sure Mr. Limbaugh will find a way past the challenges to continue his course in American History. I just wish people would stop beating each other up.

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Oct 01 - 10:03 AM

There are few people I would attack as I have Rush Limbaugh but that type of attack is his reason for being is it not? Limbaugh is an admitted comedian and buffoon. Where do you take him seriously where not. I would say it is unwise to take one's political point of view from this man. Anyone care to dissagree? I am politically conservative especially economically. I will tell you that he in no way represents my point of view.

Wolfgang: There are lots of Eurocentric threads I don't read. Plenty of talk of British politics. But more talk, especially since 09/11 of US politics.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Oct 01 - 08:53 AM

Sorry Troll, I was typing and we cross posted.....Maybe you DIDN'T expect the replies!!! Sorry, I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Oct 01 - 08:50 AM

argh

sythesthiesia


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Oct 01 - 08:49 AM

Actually, I don't think that Troll expected anything else on this thread besides the replies he got.........The very first line of his post reads:

"Say what you will about Rush Limbaugh -some love him, some dispise him- it's hard to be neutral about the man."

And that is about what you've seen here isn't it? People willing to espouse extreme views in either direction have a galvanic effect on most of us and as Rick said quite early on, listening to the guy has often gotten him off the fence. I am, like Marty, a bit surprised that more wasn't discussed about Cochlear Implants because there is so much controversy surrounding this procedure, but then again, most are not too familiar with the deaf community and their feelings on the subject (brief summation here--good site overall). A co-worker of Karen's is in the midst of this fight right now. She has decided on the Cochlear option and is getting great flak from her friends.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Oct 01 - 08:46 AM

typo corrections: National sythesthesia auditory


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: GUEST,just a nobody
Date: 09 Oct 01 - 08:39 AM

Troll,

I do appologize for my part in pulling this thread in the direction it went. Still.... thank you for making it. It may not have turned out like you thought it would. But, when do they ever...


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Oct 01 - 08:33 AM

The story of the Cochlear Implant has many twists and turns. Hanging out at the Natinal Institute for the Deaf at a party I heard a deaf guitarist that was quite good. As a cellist with many peak experiences from orchestra I wondered how he could hear what he was playing.

Understanding the nature of turning acoustic sound into the electric biologic signals the "ear" sends to the brain and how they do not cross over as with vision (they are processed on the same hemisphere as the particular ear involved) I first theorized an external inducer , sort of like wearing a stocking cap with tiny electrodes on the sides.

It worked but did not work. In other words it produced a synthesia or confusion between senses. Sort of like seeing a smell or seeing a sound or hearing a touch. There had to be much more precision as to the placement to the existing suditory nerves.

This idea went from a research team (of all places) Kodak to Litton Industries to a myriad of other medical research industries before they got it right over the next 10 years. Even at its very best it is about 10% of what the true texture that normal hearing can provide.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: Troll
Date: 09 Oct 01 - 08:31 AM

Had I had ANY idea that this thread was going to generate the vituperative diatribes that comprised many of its posts, I would NEVER have started it in the first place.
I won't make THAT mistake again.

troll


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: GUEST,just a nobody
Date: 09 Oct 01 - 08:18 AM

Hey, don't appologize because you are a mutant... er.. conservative...

No really... I think that left and right, all have extremes and that it is very easy to attack the other. I remain in between. I don't fully agree with either liberal or conservative. I do tend to lean towards conservative views, but I have a good share of traditional liberal views. So, Mr. Conservative, take heart, I don't think anyone will (or should at least) bash you for your political affiliation. If you have ideas that make sense, lay them out. Just be prepared to defend them, or compromise, but that is part of what debate is about.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: GUEST,conservative
Date: 09 Oct 01 - 08:13 AM

Oh, almost forgot, I like playing clawhammer banjo, too. I know what you are thinking -- can old-time music survive with conservatives within its ranks? An interesting question.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: GUEST,conservative
Date: 09 Oct 01 - 08:09 AM

I'm sorry. I like him. I like his ideas. I generally agree with him, although sometimes I don't. I reject the common view from the left that he promotes hatred, ignorance, racism and the like. I don't hate, except I might pop a cap on a certain fellow hiding in a cave on the other side of the world if given the chance. Have a field day with that one. You can, and no doubt you will, suggest that I am ignorant and/or naive for being of the conservative ilk. So be it. You're not going to change my ideas, and I am obviously not going to change yours. We see the world differently. The beauty of this country is that we can have differing political views without a knock on the door in the middle of the night. Although some of you may prefer that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: Wolfgang
Date: 09 Oct 01 - 06:20 AM

The ebb and flow of BS-threads has not only a seasonal but also a clearly discernible circadian rythm: The BS threads are usually at a daily low when the American Mudcatters are asleep.

I know it is not a good and healthy solution for those who detest BS-threads to come here only at the European morning, but just to give you an idea: This morning, just before 6 a.m. Mudcat time, I had to count to 21 before I found the first non-music thread. This will change NOW.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: marty D
Date: 09 Oct 01 - 02:43 AM

Good grief, how ugly so many Mudcat threads get so quickly these days.

I've had a go at Doug a couple of times here regarding Rush, Jay Leno, Pat Robertson, Letterman etc. but I always thought it was a couple of decent guys with differing political views, sparring. Some of you now make this dynamic impossible. What's the point of talking, when some only know screaming?

This could have been an INTERESTING discussion about the cochlear implants, and why there is so much opposition to it. Even more interesting because one of our members claims to be directly connected with it. But why bother, with an attitude like that?

Rush (who I couldn't disagree MORE with) sees himself as a comedian and entertainer (his own words) as well as a political commentator, and his many lines like "talent on loan from God" etc. are his way of being funny! Sure it's bombast, but it's his 'schtick', and to take it as serious is silly in my view.

I guess if this thread was titled "talk radio guy loses hearing" it might have had less vitriol.

marty


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 09 Oct 01 - 01:27 AM

I think the man is an oaf. Sad he has to lose one of the senses; pity it was his hearing. So, is he about to lose the only job [ by virtue of his own 'way out rightness and his penchant for lies and vituperation,] he was ever considered good enough to hold?


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 11:37 PM

Doug Doug Doug.....

You said

Jack, I think if you read the thread more carefully, you will see that he said it was not genetic.

If you had actually read my post you would have known that I had read the thread carefully. And that I believe his doctors and not his theories. I am familiar with his style of speech. I must say that having read the post, I lost most of my sympathy for the man. He insults his doctors. He insults others. Brags that even deaf he is better than his peers.

You know if it was a liberal I think that Rush and Pat and Jerry Falwell would be saying that the affliction was a punishment from God. Shame on any one who gives creedence to the ravings of this sick, twisted man!!

Carol is right. I pray for his recovery both physically and mentally and for his retiremant.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: CarolC
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 10:52 PM

(heh heh heh)

My take on karma is that I would probably be better off never wishing anything on anyone else that I would not wish on myself.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 10:51 PM

ooooy goooooey oggams. Carol are you really THAT sweet?


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: Troll
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 10:48 PM

Guest, may I suggest if you are unhappy with the way the forum is being run that you go elsewhere and start a forum of your own that conforms to your specifications and expectations.
Both you and we will benefit from it.

troll


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: CarolC
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 10:43 PM

My wish for Rush Limbaugh...

I think it would be nice if he would regain his hearing and decide that he would much rather live a long and happy life on a beautiful, isolated island somewhere, out of the public eye (and ear), spending his time blissfully listening to his favorite music in private (where we can't see or hear him), surrounded by his happy, loving family until he dies peacefully in his sleep when he is very old.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 10:38 PM

Six of the current eight top threads are B.S.

And people wonder, "what has happened to the DT/MC


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 10:33 PM

Mr. nobody, Due to the numerous evaluations for our 5 year old we learned that in the spectrum of autism there is a particular syndrome of barely perceptible autism that presents with numerous infections over the first 3 years. It has a name but the psychiatrist mentioned it only once.

If speech is not present by age 2 we found the help of speech therapists invaluable. In the 1st 7 years the brain is so plastic that miraculous changes can come about. It is common for such individuals to graduate from college with honors. eventually another thing to keep in mind is a profound ability to spell and even read at age 2-3 (hyperlexia). No matter what splinter skills are evident I found the learning process similar to a full recovery from a stroke. Slow as a garden grows but eventually full of blooms.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: Troll
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 10:26 PM

They are one and the same man. Hitler liked animals and Stalin liked small children. Do you mourn the deaths of the animal lover and the man who adored children while damning to the flames of Hell the men who murdered millions?

troll


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: GUEST,just a nobody
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 10:22 PM

Almost time for bed... but first...

Troll and Donuell

My original post criticising Donuel I did indeed bring mention of his family in. Not in a way I felt was slanderous however. I would wish no ill on anyone I do not know. I only used it to personalize what Rush's family is going through. had I known Donuell's situation I would not have chosen such an example, for that I do truely appologize. I know that such a personal example could and was taken much more personally than intended. But I hope it is understood, it was not meant to inflict pain, only to show a point. I would not wish anyone harm (over political issue) and worse, a heckler to make the pain worse...

I just wanted to clear that up. I honestly try to be a nice guy... Even if I am finding myself to be more conservative than originally thought.

Peace, hugs, love, kisses, and beers...

It's bedtime for bonzo...


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 10:17 PM

I draw a distiction between the man and what afflictions he suffers. Sometimes the affliction raises their stature to some people . I think Steven Hawking would be a great physicist without his illness but the perseverence of the man is worthy of great respect. When Christopher Reeves was paralyzed we all felt the pathos of his struggle. Some of us re experienced his disappointment when Bush closed the door on stem cell research that could have promised a healing alternative for Mr. Reeves.

I have had periods of deafness and have complete sympathy and understanding for anyone facing the challenge. I did previously know of Rush's musical hobby and found that personally sad. But the man himself exists by pushing on the innate inertia of hate until his ratings go up or someone throws a bomb. It is that man I have no sympathy for. The man who is in the process of losing his hearing from some undisclosed ailment I do have sympathy for.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: GUEST,just a nobody
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 10:15 PM

Is it bedtime yet...

Donuel, I was attempting to show how when you make fun of one persons misfortune, that you become the things you hate.... however... since that was lost on you, and you took it as an accusation of treason... I do appologize... instead...

You are no better than the man you have condemned...You also spew your hatred in the same manner. Just as those that now celebrate our attacks condemned those that celebrated the attacks against us. Hopefully you understand that comparison now. If not... well... I won't give up on you....

Just a nobody


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: GUEST,Just a nobody
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 10:09 PM

I do remember that exchange Donuel. Don't think that just because I think your comments were uncalled for, doesn't mean I forget everything.

Yes... he's doing much better... just had the second evaluation of many today. It looks like they are going to avoid medicating him and try instead to put him in autistic classes.

Anyway... Rush is not right, any more than his liberal conterparts. But I would not wish them ill, anymore than I would rush. The problem is so many are on a 'side' they forget that it is a human being that they are talking about. A human that has family that also have to endure whatever has befallen their loved ones. That is my point. I repeat, to preach compassion for humans, then crack down on a mans disabilities is hypocritical. I try not to do it. And when I do.... I hope others will call me on it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 10:02 PM

mr.nobody said (explitives deleted): "you are just as horrid as those people that danced when the trade centers were attacked, just as barbaric as those that celebrate the counter assault"

well nobody, I ask what kind of man would say such inflamatory lies and then ask for my apology ?

Perhaps another Rush Limbaugh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: Troll
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 09:56 PM

John, actually, nobody said; " I hope that your family never has to suffer any affliction. "
Donuel, there is no excuse for lack of compasion except POSSIBLY because of personal harm suffered from Mr. Limbaugh. Mere disagreement with his style and politics are not good enough reasons. You have indicated no personal contact with him, so I will assume that he has never harmed you personally.
Your statements about Mr. Limbaugh, especially to a forum of musicians, were truly insensitive. To lose the ability to enjoy music would be a horiffic prospect for most of us; to hear one of our number say the things you have said is chilling.
To think that ANYONE involved with music could be so callous is almost unbelievable.
I am disappointed and disgusted by your attitude. I had expected better of you.

troll


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: Benjamin
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 09:55 PM

I try not to pay attention to Rush, or his opposision. Both sides in politics bug the crap out of me. But I'm sorry about his hearing loss. As far as cochlear implants go, they're not perfect. They also are not a "fix." Deaf ears are not broken. Though in Rush's case, I'd consider them. I know Deaf people who are part of the Deaf community and use ASL and I know deaf people who have cochlear implants have grown up apart from the Deaf community. The HUGE difference is that the people who recieved cochlear implants all see themselves as imparred (a politically correct way of saying disabled). Those who never got implanted don't see themselves as disabled in any way. There's LOTS of information on the web. You might want to try looking for views from the Deaf Community for some contrast.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: GUEST,just a nobody
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 09:46 PM

Ahh... ok... Donuel... sorry...

Now lets see... you hate him because he never appologized because he was in the wrong "in your book"...

lets see what kind of man you are, your comments about his condition many (even those that dislike him) were cold, and tactless.... Yet I hear no appology from you. Because he offends your political and moral compass and does not appologize, I guess that makes you no better. You are descent at debate, only by virtue of attack and fogging issues with flamitory comments. Things like, "just like me to accuse you of treason" When did I do that? Or was it just a way to get the preassure off you. I feel offended by the fact that you would lie about what I had posted, or assumed I would know anything of your personal life, and lay it out like I used it to my advantage. Seems you engage in the same games as Rush has. Yet I hear no appology from you.... But I suppose since it is someone other than you, or one who agrees with you, it makes no difference.... sounds like you and Rush have more in common than you want to admit.

Just a nobody

Sorry about creeping off topic everyone...


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 09:45 PM

I'm sorry for Mr Limbaugh, not because I sympathize with him or think he's a "National Treasure". I disagree with him most of the time, and find him a demagogue.

However, I know he loved music as many of us do, and to lose the ability to hear it is a horrible thing to deal with. I wish him luck with his attempts to deal with this.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 09:43 PM

Perhaps guest/nobody forgets I am the one who wrote with personal concern for his 18 month old baby that had an infection. We traded stories regarding anitbiotics.

For the Limbaugh lovers; go pile on some other people who see Rush for the far right Falwellesque extremist that he is.

It seems some are as devoted to Rush as others are to bin Laden.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: John Hardly
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 09:33 PM

Donuel

I don't know why I am wasting my time posting to a flamer such as yourself, but...

I think "nobody's" point was that it was indeed you, not he, who brought your family into the discussion.

I wish you had some other porta-jon into which to dump your particular brand of ill-mannered, inhumane shit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 09:23 PM

This is the last time I will kindly ask you to leave my family out of the discussion.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: GUEST,just a nobody
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 09:15 PM

I made no accusation of treason, only that your political views have skewed your sense of compassion. You hate him politically, so you make jokes about his ailments.

Yes, he lies, he is a showman. Does that mean at times I do not think he crosses the line? Sure he does, he is an extremeist... it sells.

"Perhaps they did not catch his syphillus in time. "

Strikes me as simply cold blooded from those who espouse the virtues of compasion.

Donuel, you give me too much credit to paying attention to you. I had no idea you had a loss in your family. Does it change my view, no. I still stand by what I say, that no matter what would happen to you and your family, I am glad that there is none in the wings making the same tasteless comments that you had. Sorry for your loss.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 09:10 PM

(corrected due to use of <'s)

I do not think he is asking for or needs your sympathy. Challeges befall all of us. I do not think is is a very sympathetic character.

Yes Rush Limbaugh is in the public domain and made a career of leaking and spewing lies. He led the extremists into rage and only cooled his jets when the Muir bld. was blown up. Except for any political power he has already joined the ranks of J Edgar Hoover and Joe Mc Carthy in my book. What the man stands for is to simply be taken as jest? I think not.

Yes ,I am opposed to what he spews. The man when proven to have lied has never apologized.

I am very familiar with the deaf. As I said before I pioneered the cochlear implant and had it perfected at Litton. Courage and compassion are the traits of a patriot which I fail to see in Mr. Limbaugh. The Republican party had the sense to exclude him form the inner circle but still benefit from his propaganda.

As for the comments from mr nobody , it is just like you to virtually accuse me of treason. Nor do I celebrate anyones affliction. mr. nobody knows full well we have had a death in our family this week and has brought my family into the discussion merely to inflict personal pain.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 08:54 PM

I do not think he is asking for or needs your sympathy. Challeges befall all of us. I do not think

Yes Rush Limbaugh is a public figure who made a career of leaking and spewing lies. He led the extremists into rage and only cooled his jets when the Muir bld. was blown up. Except for any political power he has already joined the ranks of J Edgar Hoover and Joe Mc Carthy in my book. What the man stands for is to simply be taken as jest? I think not.

Yes ,I am opposed to what he spews. The man when proven to have lied has never apologized.

I am very familiar with the deaf. As I said before I pioneered the cochlear implant and had it perfected at Litton. Courage and compassion are the traits.

As for the comments from mr nobody , it is just like you to virtually accuse me of treason. Nor do I celebrate anyones affliction. mr. nobody know full well we have had a death in our family this week and has no right to bring my family into the discussion except to inflict personal pain.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: GUEST,just a nobody
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 08:22 PM

I dislike Rush, personally. I think he is a showman, and a profession shit disturber. I find myself in constant disagreement with his ideas. But, I was shocked to hear about what he was facing. Within months he may very well loose something that most of us take for granted. It is sad, but I do admire his willingness to continue on in radio. I may dissagree with his format, but respect his showmanship.

That being said, Donuel.... you are a true ass. Just as horrid as those people that danced when the trade centers were attacked, just as barbaric as those that celebrate the counter assault. You are the same as those you condemn. You have shown your true colors to alot of people in your post. Because he doesn't agree with you, your comments are crude at best. I hope that your family never has to suffer any affliction. Or if they do, that there is no one as cold as yourself waiting in the wings.

Like DougR, I wonder if it had been a man that was equally a showman on a liberal side, if the crudeness would be there. I doubt it. Odd... people come out of the woodwork to talk about human compassion, then bash a man that is loosing something that most take for granted. Sadly, it tells me a lot about people. I don't care for him... but at least I have compassion enough to put that aside when talking about loosing his hearing.

Disgusted...

Just a nobody


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: DougR
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 07:54 PM

Jack, I think if you read the thread more carefully, you will see that he said it was not genetic.

I don't know about you, Jack, but I sure don't get my political thinking from Donohue. I think you know why I used him as an example. He is as far left as Limbaugh is far right.

And Donuel, please point out where I stated that Rush was the paragon of anything. And you may not view deafness as being disabled, but I sure do.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: catspaw49
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 06:24 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: DonMeixner
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 06:22 PM

I don't emjoy Rush's politics. But I admire him for his self promotion. I can think of enough bad things to say about him that I could fill a page. But I will say that he has one of the largest private collections pf 78's and LP's in the nation and his personal knowlege of American popular music is exceptional. He never touted it much because it was a hobby.

My sympathies go to him. Being a person with a 50% hearing loss I can only begin to imagine what his life will be like from now on.

Don Meixner


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: GUEST,Arne Langsetmo
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 06:17 PM

Rush didn't depend on listening for his livelihood. He depended on his mouth and that thumb he kept on the "kill" button. I'm not sure we'll see much difference.

Before the flamers get on my case about his personal loss, I'd remind them of what he said about a person who had never harmed him (or anyone else): Chelsea Clinton. The man was simply _mean_. And I don't think he'll change.

Cheers,

-- Arne Langsetmo


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 06:15 PM

SharonA: Did he not say in the link above that the doctors said it was hereditary? That would seem to be the best information we and he have. If he chooses not to believe his doctors....?

Please note that Phil Donahue was paid to be controversial as well. It is a slippery slope when we get out political thoughts from "entertainers."


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 06:06 PM

I would feel just as unsympathetic if Joe McCarthy had lost his "hearing".

Doug you may consider Rush a paragon of good taste but that is merely a sad commentary on "taste".

Is he disabled ? No. He has a sensory impairment. The cause he is keeping to himself.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh
From: DougR
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 06:05 PM

So. I assume from what several of you have posted, if Rush Limbaugh espoused your political philosophy rather than the one he does, you might feel some sympathy for his losing his hearing. Es so?

Yes, Mousethief, I think the important think is the man lost his ability to hear things. I would feel equally sorry were I to hear that Phil Donohue suffered the same loss.

DougR


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