To the Young UK members! =0D

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: running.hare
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 05:07 PM

Up

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: selby
Date: 29 Mar 03 - 12:01 PM

Don't forget one of the best gatherings of Young Folkies, 13 to 22 I think, has to be the Folkworks Summer School, cost's a bit but from my info well worth it.
Keith

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: Leadfingers
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 07:39 PM

And keep an eye out for the Mudcat Meeting at a certain Festival in
the South Midlands in August (after Sidmouth).ALL Catters will be welcome ,as will any non catters both old and young

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: running.hare
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 07:20 PM

Cool Pete,

I'll leave that with you then, but could you leave a blue clickie here or PM me when new threads up & running, I wouldn't want to miss it's apearence :D

This should be good

~Lizabee

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: GUEST,steve benbows protege
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 02:35 AM

Good idea! I can get terry in to help us again. He's a genuinely good person and always full of ideas.
We could meet up at terry's thing at the new tavern, then sort things out from there. The shooting roots thing at Sidmouth is for a younger age. we need to network between us, make contacts, help each other in performance etc.
so yes we should start the "Young Adults at Sidmouth thread." I will talk to terry this weekend and see what we can sort out!
    with regards.
      Pete.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: running.hare
Date: 27 Mar 03 - 04:42 PM

I've got to take my Guides Camping Sunday - Tuesday of Sidmouth week, but Hope to toddle down 1st thing Wednessday so Save me a place!

Would it be worth Starting a New 'Young Adults @ Sidmouth' Thread So we can make plans & attract others with out them having to read through all the flaming?

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Mar 03 - 07:51 AM

refresh.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 23 Mar 03 - 09:56 AM

Like I said before, I'm old (ish) but only 16 in me head! Young folkies are keeping the music alive. Good luck to you. Having seen many young folkies, I can't help admire and be very jealous of their commitment and talent.I'm also quite safe to be around (usually) and young children are safe with me. ( I suppose they all say that) I do think children & young peple do need to be careful, and as (hopefully) responsible adults, we'll look out for them in this forum.

Some guests look to start fires, others pour petrol onto fires, and often hide behind annoniminity. In the time I've been on mudcat, probably about 4 years or more, I've learnt to take no notice of inflamatory remarks. I think some of us oldies? should be allowed around you younsters so we can learn things from you.So if you see an old viking watching, don't throw things at me, let me listen and learn.

Keep the thread going.Thanks

Eric the (old) viking

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: GUEST,JeZeBeL
Date: 21 Mar 03 - 10:14 AM

SCABBY DOUG - Do you happen to know Jen then.....plays the fiddle and guitar and is as mad as a hatter!! I'll make sure to get myself to The Ben Nevis next time i go visit her....which will be soon hopefully!!

I'm a young folkie too and would be interested in any young folkie weekends sessions etc anywhere in England....COUNT ME IN!!

Emma

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: GUEST,steve benbows protege
Date: 21 Mar 03 - 05:34 AM

Well at least that's one 'possible' then. Well done Lizabee!! will see you there.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: running.hare
Date: 20 Mar 03 - 06:05 PM

*starts saving her pennies for Sidmouth*

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: selby
Date: 20 Mar 03 - 01:32 PM

There is a link on another thread that all youngsters and young at heart are welcome at the Yorkshire Gathering
Keith

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Mar 03 - 02:52 AM

Why don't you all go to Hull there are some young people there cos they can't even spell.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: GUEST,steve benbows protege
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 02:51 AM

Sorry my misunderstanding there Terry. Can't remember who told me you were. That's idle gossip for you!!! Anyway, thanks for the input at least now we have one place this festival year where we can all meet up. So if people here are happy to do that as a start we can build up meets/jams etc until other people put their ideas into the pot.
Pete.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: Leadfingers
Date: 18 Mar 03 - 02:35 PM

Whoa there young Pete I am NOT in cahoots with Sidmouth Festival organisers at all,though I do have some inputinto the New Tavern session,and I am sure all you bright young things would be welcome in the Newt.We normally run twelve ish to three ish and eight ish to closing time, so come along and join in or come along and fill the gaps up. And keep an eye open for the Mudcat Session at a certain small friendly festival in the South Midlands .

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: Steve Benbows protege
Date: 18 Mar 03 - 01:10 PM

Thank you john. Why tell them my trade? A good point there "Forgive, forget and move on" i like that idea.
As for festival sessions I probably will be at Sidmouth. (Unless the Ealing jazz festival clashes and we're booked) I would say that re-reading this thread the rough ages here are between 19 and 34+. we could have a mass get toghether at say one of the sessions. Leadfingers will be able to help me out here. He runs one of the sessions in town and we could tag on to that. For anybody younger than 19 (If they read this thread!) then they should come accompanied by an adult. Leadfingers is in cohorts with festival organisers so we could nab spare rehersal venues etc to play/jam. We could get in touch with the shooting roots guys as they run events/ showcases. They tend to be for younger people than our catchment age.
Right dinner calls.
Will be willing to discuss issues arising by p.m or here.
    With regards.
    Pete.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: GUEST,john
Date: 18 Mar 03 - 02:38 AM

Pete, i am shocked! I have never heard you apologise for anything!
Well folks that is a commitment in my book and I've known 'Steve Benbows protege' for long enough.
Right kids, start acting adult and don't worry about pete (He is a civil servant and has been veted) I know he has had alot on his case recently. So forgive, forget and move on.
Right I have better things to be doing.
   Enjoy the thread and mainly enjoy the music.
    John.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: GUEST,dorrie
Date: 17 Mar 03 - 10:56 AM

i agree with keith slash selby, calm down everyone, people have to be cautious in this day and age.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: Steve Benbows protege
Date: 17 Mar 03 - 09:37 AM

sorry guys I ain't been too good lately. I have had alot on my case but things are better now. I am sorry to have put a negative slant on things and am sorry to have been wound up. Let us keep this going. It is worth the effort! (and i shall ignore "guests" in future.)
regards.
    Pete.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: clansfolk
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 01:59 PM

when vultuk - Simon (my son) - started this thread it was to try and get together with like minded young people who had an interest in making music - Fylde as mentioned does show an interest in promoting young people - but I feel this is done as a seperate to the Festival approach by a group of people who have and do work hard at getting people involved in music.... the sessions at Sidmouth have been great with an enthusiasm that came from inside and needed no prompting - real musicians enjoying playing together - I think this was the type of people Simon was trying to unite - there are many closet musicians/singers out there but maybe many are afraid to show interest in the music incase they are ridiculed by their peers?

I was sad to see this thread raise its head after a year and a half in such a negative way - maybe it's best to let it die and open a new thread if anyone out there feels there is an interest by young people in forming such groups?

Pete

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: selby
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 01:13 PM

Good advice again and well said Jude, SPB swearing ranting and raving only feeds the detractors, PLEASE channel your passion and energy, complete what you started to do, ignore the knockers and I for one will make up my own mind if I should meet you.
Keith

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: JudeL
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 09:32 AM

Steve Benbows protege: Please don't feed the trolls, and please don't give them the satisfaction of succeeding in being a disruptive influence. This thread started off serving a valid purpose, that of encouraging networking between the new generation of folkies. From the tone of most of the postings identifying opportunities to make contact, most of you were already (almost automatically) making plans to do so in "safe" environments, which in itself argues an underlying awareness of the possible dangers of people misrepresenting themselves. And please don't be so ready to take offence, at those who followed the initial remark about safety by expressing genuine concern that our young people protect themselves. As a young person I am sure you must have been (probably more than you want to) been made aware of the need to do so for yourself. Even those of us who ain't quite so young anymore recognise the need to keep ourselves and our friends safe, and that people often misrepresent themselves online.
Why assume the remark was directed at you? You know you are not a paedophile and it is something which for those interested is simple enough to check and prove so just put it in the SEP (Somebody Else's Problem) catagory and ignore it as not worth your notice.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: Steve Benbows protege
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 09:18 AM

yeah, well who the fuck are you? still haven't got the bollox to put a name to yourself.
   I enjoy going out and playing quality music with Benbow, Disley, Johnny silvo etc so why am I wasting my time arguing with c**ts like you.
Now grow up or come and face me personally.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 06:52 AM

Well everything answered in the last posting, Mr Protege instead of listening to some good advice & support has taken his bat & ball home, when he should have listened and fought for what he wanted to do.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: Steve Benbows protege
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 05:38 PM

yes a well meant thread gone down the tube. From now on I am staying well out of this. Kate as you said a "forum for us to talk" we can't without someone putting a dampner on it.
    hope you sort something out cause i ain't gonna be part of it.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: Shonagh
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 03:54 PM

Boab, u still in aberdeen? Aberdeen folk club has just moved from O' Donnahues in Justice mill lane to The Loft, No17, Castlegate. Its good craic like. Also, there are the tmsa sessions and also session in the blue lamp etc. If ur wanting more info, just pm me or sumthing!

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: selby
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 01:16 PM

What is every ones problem, Guest either concerned or provocative has made a valid point that as parents of children an invite to a event wherever it may be if accepted over the internet needs to be checked out. My kids enter sessions at festivals and hopefully we have checked them out first,remember youngsters have acces to all things these days as do the bad people.The plan of SBP is an admirable one and should be supported and encouraged a clarification of age group invited to the event would be helpful or children under an age must be accompianed by an adult. In these days of trouble on the internet with paedophiles best intentions can lead to hysteria.
Keith

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: GUEST,Santa at work
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 11:41 AM

My last thread seems to have got lost - what it said was that Fylde Festival has a Young Performers Competition, which seems like a pretty good starting point for a get-together.

This (or indeed any other festival gathering) would also answer the "safety on the internet" problem, in a positive way.

Some of us think that jazz does indeed have an image problem - but then I'm an older unregenerate folkie at heart. In truth, I'm not terribly certain about music unaccompanied by song..... what use is it? Other than driving people out of the pubs at Sidmouth?

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: Kate
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 11:14 AM

I think it's a shame that this thread started out as well meant and a welcome forum for the younger members to discuss get togethers. Most of us younger lot appreciate others that like folk music as it's an unusual interest in our age group. I think advice could be put on other threads for meeting up because at the end of the day everyone's at risk, but we all just have to be careful. I don't think when there's talk of on mass get togethers at festivals that there's a massive risk - particularly as many of us are in our 20s. I also think it's a shame to put such a negative and unnecessary twist to the thread. It would be lovely to see the negative threads taken out and this to be a constant thread so that we had a forum to talk.

Please let us keep this going and without the bickering. And Pete ignore the comments and don't get upset by them - it's really not worth it.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: GUEST,john
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 10:35 AM

As i said above I do know pete and he does have a contact here called "Leadfingers"( I don't know him though, have heard about him) so if you don't believe him there is a contact that you can use.
so as i said before grow up ands act like adults.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: Declan
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 10:18 AM

Provocative GUEST was, no doubt trying to be provocative, as usual.

I for one am delighted to see a lot of younger people getting involved with folk music and very much welcome their participation in this forum.

BUT the advice to be careful is sound advice. There have been cases (one reported extensively here in Ireland yesterday) where people have been lured into nasty situations on the basis of people mis-representing themselves on the Internet. This is not meant as an accusation against anybody on this forum, and please don't take it as such. By all means have your get togethers and have a great time with the music - just do your be sure you know the information you are reading is for real.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: GUEST,john
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 10:02 AM

I know pete(steve benbows protege) and his girlfriend personally. He is only 22yrs old and a young up and coming talent. Just because you guys don't appreciate his keen attitude towards music doesn't give rise to these accusations
As for the "Mystery" guest: as pete said s/he could have at least have put a name to themselves instead of being chicken.
Shambles, if everyone here is over eighteen (and having read through this thread they are) then what is the problem. If they are classed as "Adults" then your point is valid because...? Also meeting in a public place like a festival session is dangerous for what reasons?
Pete as for you; calm down.

I can now tell that this is a thread for kids written by kids. NOW GROW UP AND ACT LIKE MATURE PEOPLE.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: GUEST,steve benbows protege
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 08:25 AM

Are you trying to say that i am a paedophile? FUCK THE LOT OF YOU THEN . P.M Leadfingers and ask him how old Benbows student is and then i will personally accept each of your apologies. Till then I seriously hope you guys think about the future of folk music because i make a nice tidy packet out of playing jazz and That DOESN'T HAVE THE IMAGE PROBLEM WITH YOUNG PEOPLE THAT FOLK MUSIC DOES.
Dont bother to p.m me just post your apoligies on this thread.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: Kipling
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 08:13 AM

All sounds great, i'm a young Folkie- only a singer though and it would be great to meet with some other young folkies. I've come across very few young unaccompanied singers- but I can understand why, considering the opinion of a lot of young people of a non folkie persuasion.

Most of what I sing is traditional, with a particular liking for the poems of kipling which have been set to tunes. At the moment i'm living and working in Vietnam as a volunteer, but hope to return later this year to Beverley, East Yorkshire (near 'ull)
Keep on Kipling
Kipling

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: The Shambles
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 05:23 AM

Whoever made the warning and for whatever reason, it is a sensible one to bear in mind. Especially when you are making an appeal to only young people and making arrangements for meetings........

I wish it were no so but there are too many cases of people using such ruses and in truth if someone claims online to be 15/16 or whatever, there is no way to find out if this is true, until it is possibly too late.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: GUEST,steve benbows protege
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 02:56 AM

Guest, who could be a paedophile? the simple term refresh means a thread is kept current.
As for paedophiles if you ain't one you would of already joined mudcat and would not of come in as 'guest.'
Also as everyone in this thread is over 18 yrs old does it matter to parents "What contacts your children are reaching."
Does it really matter if we the young generation want to meet up and keep this genre of music alive. IT OBVIOUSLY DOES TO YOU.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 12:15 AM

Could be a paedophile

Parents do you know what internet contacts your children are reaching?

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 10:40 AM

refresh

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: Steve Benbows protege
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 01:40 PM

What festivals are people here planning to do this year? Maybe we can get some idea and then get a contigency plan for a mass meet.
Look forwards to hearing back from you all.
    Pete.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 12:17 PM

My daughter told me this at my 50th b'day last month:
"You are only young once - but you can be immature forever"
I intend to follow her wise words.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: GUEST,alinact
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 12:09 PM

(for the blokes) Your only as old as the woman you feel.

Allan

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: GUEST,boab d
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 08:58 AM

Hello all,
well I'm 30 and thik I'm still about 12 am I to old.
I read about a wee shin dig in Aberdeen. Luckily I moved there and the only place that I can think of is O'Donnachies on justice mill lane. If not can you leave a note where it will be if one gets organised
Dylan=0D (see I'm still young)

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: running.hare
Date: 05 Mar 03 - 03:56 PM

"Do sessions exclude young players then?

Or is it just that the young folk don't want the old folk around? "


It's neither of the above realy Roger, I love all the folkclubs I drift to & from & have made some realy great friends of all ages, but sometime It would be nice to meet up with others my age (I tend to stick out being 20yrs younger than the rest of the room.) Though I can report that last Month in Dorchester I wasnot the youngest There!!! I Teenager no less turned up, I'm looking forward to seeing if she returns thismonth as she said she would :)

ohh & to answer somebody elses Question, I'm a young Singer, but not male.... I Think?


~Lizabee

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: Steve Benbows protege
Date: 26 Feb 03 - 05:50 PM

Firecat, hello and welcome into our discussion.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: Firecat
Date: 26 Feb 03 - 04:13 PM

Hello! I'm 19 and from Doncaster UK.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: Steve Benbows protege
Date: 26 Feb 03 - 02:35 AM

Kate,
   Please do if you are about.
    Everyone else please keep me informed of what is going on here especially as festival season will shorty be upon us again!

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: Kate
Date: 25 Feb 03 - 03:13 PM

Hey Steve Benbows protege. I used to be in Barrons Court but am now in Leeds. But I do get down to London a bit and my gran lives in Richmond and one of my folky mates lives in Kingston. Will give you a shout if I'm down for a folky gig.

Dippy cow that I am - hadn't signed in when I posted this message:
Nice to see this thread. I'm a 23 year old singer, not talented enough to be a musician, but aspiring to one day play the mandolin. I'd be really interested in any young gatherings, especially if they're not too far from Leeds. I know of a few other folkies (mainly dancers and singers), so I can spread the word. Keep us informed, and if you need any help let me know.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: Steve Benbows protege
Date: 25 Feb 03 - 03:07 PM

Suprisingly I am only 22yrs old. And you will all have to ask your parents who my mentor is! If there are any people near london or easy commute from Richmond then P.m me I would be interested in meeting up.

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: Shonagh
Date: 25 Feb 03 - 02:32 PM

Shonagh again, Moved back from the west coast now, to just outside Aberdeen. Anyone in Scotland that fancy a get together?

Subject: RE: To the Young UK members! =0D
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Feb 03 - 09:53 AM

Nice to see this thread. I'm a 23 year old singer, not talented enough to be a musician, but aspiring to one day play the mandolin. I'd be really interested in any young gatherings, especially if they're not too far from Leeds. I know of a few other folkies (mainly dancers and singers), so I can spread the word. Keep us informed, and if you need any help let me know.