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Lyr Add: Thirteen Pence a Day

The Walrus at work 15 Oct 01 - 01:39 PM
Liz the Squeak 15 Oct 01 - 07:07 PM
Herga Kitty 15 Oct 01 - 08:29 PM
Malcolm Douglas 15 Oct 01 - 09:18 PM
The Walrus at work 16 Oct 01 - 08:45 AM
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Subject: Lyr Add: THIRTEEN PENCE A DAY
From: The Walrus at work
Date: 15 Oct 01 - 01:39 PM

I've mentioned this song before, but, when I did a Lyrics search both and a Forum search, it didn't come up.
This (anti-recruiting) song dates from the 1840/50s(ish) and, like so many others, has a number of names.

THIRTEEN PENCE A DAY

Come and be a soldier, lads, come lads, come!
Hark, don't you hear the fife and the drum?
March to the battlefield, march, march away.
Come and lose your eyes and limbs for thirteen pence a day.

Come and take the shilling lads, come lads, drink!
Come and drive dull care away, but never dare to think.
Break your mammas' hearts, lads, bid goodbye to daddy,
You shall be a general if you'll only be a swaddy.

Come along, you gaubies<1>, come and be drilled,
By a puppy of a sergeant that's not worth being killed.
You'll be made a corporal, if you're a jolly cock;
Come and be a soldier, but be in by eight o'clock.

Remember we are soldiers, the bravest of the brave;
Come and be a soldier, then you'll be a slave.
Come to Colonel White<2>, my lads, but don't pretend to cry,
For if you are not happy we can flog you till you die.

Come and learn your exercise, lads, run, lads, run,
Soon you'll know the use of bayonet and gun.
Then you'll go abroad, my lads, and there you'll soon be warm,
By shooting men you never knew, who never did you harm.

When you are a soldier lad, if you do not limp,
You shall go recruiting, and then you'll be a crimp<3>.
A lad may take your shilling when in drink he's fresh,
But you know it's quite respectable to kidnap human flesh.

Now if you shall be killed me lads, never mind that there,
You will die with honour lads, you'll be free of care.
Don't mind your wives and children, for they'll soon be forgotten,
What's wives and children to you, when you are dead and rotten?

If you should escape, lads, and get your lives away,
After a long servitude you will receive a pay;
Sixpence a day, my lads, for twelve months you'll receive,
You're titled as a pensioner, so then you need not grieve.

Did you ever think lads, or ever go to school?
He who would be a soldier must surely be a fool.
Talk of honour, that's all nonsense, oh, 'tis an idle story;
Live like honest men my lads, that is the real glory.

Oh never be so silly as to fight for kings and queens,
For none of them is not as good as half a bunch of greens;
Remember what I say, lads, it is a serious thing,
The Almighty made the human race, but never made a king.^^

Best Wishes

Walrus

<1> Fools <2> Any Colonel's name may be substituted, if it fits <3> Recruiter


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Thirteen Pence a Day
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 15 Oct 01 - 07:07 PM

So are you looking for anti recruitment songs then?

LTS


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Thirteen Pence a Day
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 15 Oct 01 - 08:29 PM

And there was me thinking "Thirteen Pence a Day" was the (anti-recruitment) AE Housman poem (recorded by eg Dave Webber and Anni Fentiman on "Bonnet and Shawl").

Kitty


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Thirteen Pence a Day
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 15 Oct 01 - 09:18 PM

Well worth mentioning, particularly at the moment.  I should think it didn't come up in a search because hardly anybody seems to have recorded it.  It seems to be more usually called The Young Recruit (not to be confused with the more-or-less contemporary Young Recruit (See those ribbons gaily streaming...), but that's all I know. There are broadside copies at the Bodleian Library, with very little variation from the text Walrus quotes, so I'm guessing that it was never much sung in tradition, though I've seen it on a regimental website which suggested that it was sung in the army, but gave no details.  Is there a tune, or is this one just for the archive?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Thirteen Pence a Day
From: The Walrus at work
Date: 16 Oct 01 - 08:45 AM

LtS,

Not particularly, a friend returned a disc with the song on and I decided to check if it was in the DT.

Herga Kitty,

Thirteen pence a day was, the British private soldier's basic daily rate of pay (1/- per day + 1d "beer money") for something in excess of 100 years, so I'm surprised there was not more mention of it(it wasn't considered a good rate of pay, even in the 1970s).

Malcolm,

The Dots are in Palmer's "The Rambling Soldier", unfortunately, my copy has gone walkabout.

Best Wishes

Walrus


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