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Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep

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Subject: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep - S
From: Burke
Date: 18 Oct 01 - 10:14 PM

A friend of mine, LD, has been staying with me this week & has fallen in love with "He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep - Stancer Quartet" on Close To Home: Old Time Music From Mike Seeger's Collection 1952-1967

Right now she's even absconded with the CD & I just hope to get it back before she leaves on Monday.

Super Search is not working for me right now. I don't have any time free to sort through all the false drops due to the title being a verse from the Bible.

If anyone knows the words or can make them out from the recording I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks,


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Oct 01 - 01:16 AM

Did I just post "You Hear the Lambs A-Cryin'? I'm losing track. The verses all include the tag line, "Oh, shepherd, feed My sheep," and one refers to Peter, saying "Peter if you love Me, feed my sheep."

Anyway I think it goes like that and that this would be the basis for the later gospel item you've encountered.

~Susan


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Subject: Lyr Add: YOU HEAR THE LAMBS A-CRYING
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Oct 01 - 01:25 AM

This is how we are doing it... I think this is the one I was trying to post, and lost, last week.... if I get a chance I'll look up the citations on source (and variants and those sources).... this version is adapted from the John Work version in American Negro Songs, but with a few changes and I think I added a verse and changed the verse order... I think the second verse below is mine, and the last verse was originally [Peter] not [child].

~S~

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YOU HEAR THE LAMBS A-CRYING
Traditional Negro Spiritual


REFRAIN:
You hear the lambs a-cryin', hear the lambs a-cryin',
Hear the lambs a-cryin', O Shepherd, feed my sheep
You hear the lambs a-cryin', hear the lambs a-cryin',
Hear the lambs a-cryin', O Shepherd, feed my sheep

VERSES:
LEADER: Wasn't that an awful shame
PEOPLE: O Shepherd, feed my sheep
LEADER: He hung three hours in mortal pain
PEOPLE: O Shepherd, feed my sheep

LEADER: Lord, You died that I might live
PEOPLE: O Shepherd, feed my sheep
LEADER: All to You, I freely give
PEOPLE: O Shepherd, feed my sheep

LEADER: Lord I love Thee Thou dost know
PEOPLE: O Shepherd, feed my sheep
LEADER: O give me grace to love Thee more
PEOPLE: O Shepherd, feed my sheep

LEADER: My Savior spoke these words so sweet,
PEOPLE: O Shepherd, feed my sheep
LEADER: Sayin' "Child, if you love Me, feed my sheep"
PEOPLE: O Shepherd, feed my sheep


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: Burke
Date: 19 Oct 01 - 11:50 AM

Thanks, that's not it. The chorus is the same as the title. "He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep" It's pure Gospel. Apparently recorded off the radio in the 1960's.

Why do I keep getting "could not connect to server" when I try super search?


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Subject: Lyr Add: HE SAID 'IF YOU LOVE ME, FEED MY SHEEP'
From: GUEST,Rich-Joy
Date: 20 Oct 01 - 06:22 AM

Great little number!! - we're gonna do it here Down Under too.

LYR ADD. HE SAID "IF YOU LOVE ME, FEED MY SHEEP" :
Stancer Quartet

1. He said (he said) if you love me (love me) feed my sheep
He said (he said) if you love (love me) feed my sheep
The tiny young lambs safe in the fold
But some are straying in the cold
He said(he said) if you love me (love me)feed my sheep.

ref. Tell me who (who) did Jesus mean When he gave this urgent plea
Tell me who (who) did Jesus mean Was it you or was it me?
The tiny young lambs safe in the fold
But some are straying in the cold
He said (he said) if you love me (love me) feed my sheep.

2. He knew his lambs would hungry grow
Chilling winds would often blow

ref.

3. Well Peter, James and John are gone
But we this work must carry on

ref.

As you would know, there's lots of repeated stuff and I've only put in the bare bones for now ... [Sure as hell hope I've got this new-fangled posting technique stuff at least halfway right???!!! Here goes ...] Cheers!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 Oct 01 - 09:01 AM

I'd love to hear the tune to see if they are similar. Those old spirituals filtered into a lot of stuff.

RJ, where are you going to do this?

~S~


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 20 Oct 01 - 05:26 PM

"If You Love Me (Feed My Sheep)" is available on cd from Hay Holler Records, HH-CD-1343, by Big Country Bluegrass
www.hayholler.com


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 20 Oct 01 - 06:24 PM

Don't let Eric the Viking hear this will you!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: GUEST,Rich-Joy
Date: 21 Oct 01 - 10:42 PM

WYSIWYG - Down Under in Oz - I now live in the state of Queensland (NE quadrant), but keep trying to re-attach to the other members of our former a cappella harmony group "No Strings Attached" - from Darwin (North Oz)- who now live far and wide. We had intended to come together and do our "down-home" Gospel Show at the coming Woodford Folk Festival (Xmas/New Year), covering such gems as "He Said: If You Love Me Feed My Sheep", but Life conspired against that particular performance, so, some other time ... [this was also why, as you may recall, I was chasing those little-known Gospel lyrics a few months back on the Mudcat, with varying degrees of success] Cheers, Rich-Joy.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: wysiwyg
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 12:31 AM

RJ, yes I do remember you.

Some of us have been enjoying a discussion about what we are calling "High-Octane Music Ministries." Can you drop me a line?

~Susan

motormice@hotmail.com


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: Burke
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 09:44 AM

I've just had a wonderful weekend of Sacred Harp singing with some of the best folks there are, anywhere.

Coming back to find the words I need is a special treat. I'll mail them to my friend so they'll be waiting next time she checks her e-mail.

Can't thank you enough, Rich-Joy.

Now, if I only get the CD back. It's on the way to Philadelphia right now. B.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 05:51 PM

I wrote a song about Peter with the verse:

And Jesus said unto him, Peter, I want you to feed my flock And I shall build my church upon you Like a house upon a rock

Jerry


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 05:59 PM

Well done Jerry!

It rhymes too!

And makes no use of clichéd phrases!

I wish I had your talent...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: Burke
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 07:32 PM

RJ, I just found out about a Sacred Harp singing in Melbourne next Sunday. I suspect that's about like telling a New Yorker about something happening in Virginia. Just in case you want some info, though, let me know.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 08:54 PM

Another verse to Peter:

He sent him out into the world Like a sheep among the wolves With nothing but the serpent's wit As gentle as a dove


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: GUEST,Rich-Joy
Date: 23 Oct 01 - 05:06 AM

Burke - you're very welcome! And yes, you're right, coz Melbourne is about 3 day's drive from Brisbane, my nearest capital city!!! However, I'd still like the info, coz maybe they can tell me if there's any Sacred Harp-type activity in Brisbane or thereabouts - my partner and I would be interested. Cheers.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Oct 01 - 10:36 AM

RJ,

Some of us have been enjoying a discussion about what we are calling "High-Octane Music Ministries." Can you drop me a line?

~Susan

motormice@hotmail.com


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: Burke
Date: 23 Oct 01 - 12:45 PM

New York to Washington I suggested. More like New York to Florida! I know you're a continent there so I guess I should not be surprised, but...

Click here to send me an e-mail & I'll forward the information to you.


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Subject: Lyr Add: HE SAID, ‘IF YOU LOVE ME, FEED MY SHEEP’
From: GUEST,A BLUEGRASS FAN IN MT. CARMEL, TN.
Date: 23 Oct 01 - 01:45 PM

He said, “If you love me, (love me) feed my sheep.”
He said, “If you love me, feed my sheep.”
There’s ninety and nine safe in the fold,
But some are straying in the cold.
He said, “If you love me, feed my sheep.”

He said, “If you love me, feed my sheep.”
He said, “If you love me, feed my sheep.”
Now Peter and James and John are gone
But we in this world must carry on.
He said, “If you love me, feed my sheep.

HTML line breaks added; also punctuation and capitalization. --JoeClone, 27-Nov-01.


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Subject: Lyr Add: HE SAID, ‘IF YOU LOVE ME, FEED MY SHEEP’
From: Burke
Date: 23 Oct 01 - 06:34 PM

Thanks, Guest, I think I recall hearing the 99 bit. This is instead of the 'tiny young lambs,' bit, right? I maybe should have been clearer, it's country or bluegrass Gospel, not Black Gospel.

He said if you love me,(love me)feed my sheep.
He said if you love me, feed my sheep.
There's ninety and nine safe in the fold,
but some are straying in the cold.
He said if you love me, feed my sheep.

He said if you love me, feed my sheep.
He said if you love me, feed my sheep.
Now peter,and james and john are gone,
but we in this world, must carry on.
He said if you love me, feed my sheep.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 Feb 02 - 05:23 PM

The above now indexed in the African-American Spirituals Permathread. If more lyrics (with titles other than the above) are added in this thread, please help us index them by posting the song title and thread URL to the Permathread. Thanks.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: rich-joy
Date: 06 May 04 - 02:38 AM

Our a cappella harmony group "Work-in-Progress" (Oz) now perform this top little number, but I've often wondered - WHAT are it's origins??

I think the Stancer Quartet guy says in his intro, words to the effect that "this is a new one for us" ...

So is it in the Scared Harp, or did they write it - or what?

Cheers!
R-J


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 May 04 - 08:29 AM

It's a spiritual. And a Bible reference.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 May 04 - 08:32 AM

Sorry, not awake yet-- of course the version you're discussing is probably not a spiritual.

There was a comment above that this was not black gospel. But there was a lot of crossover between styles.... there very well may be a black gospel version out there too.

~S~


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Subject: Lyr Add: HEAR THE LAMBS A-CRYING
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 11 May 04 - 01:50 PM

As sung at Fisk University:

Lyr. Add: HEAR THE LAMBS A-CRYING
As sung at Fisk University

You hear the lambs a-crying?
Hear the lambs a-crying!
Hear the lambs a-crying!
O Shepherd, feed my sheep!

My Savior spoke these words so sweet,
O Shepherd, feed my sheep!
Peter, if you lome me, feed my sheep.
O Shepherd, feed my sheep!
Lord, I love Thee, Thou dost know.
O Shepherd, feed my sheep!
Give me grace to love Thee more.
O Shepherd, feed my sheep.

When I groan upon the tree,
O etc.

When Thou seeist, pity me;
O etc.

For I'm a pilgrim trav'ling home,
O etc.

The lonesome road my Savior trod.
O etc.

With sheet music, Lento con molto sentimento. "Songs of the Americas," ed. F. H. Botsford, pp. 43-44.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: Burke
Date: 11 May 04 - 07:08 PM

I completely forgot about this thread. I think I'll go home & listen to the CD. It's not in the Sacred Harp.

There is aig Sacred Harp event in Montclair, NJ this weekend. Anyone interesed, please let me know.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: rich-joy
Date: 11 May 04 - 08:19 PM

Thanks, Burke! (I was wondering if you'd drop by!)

Cheers! R-J


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: rich-joy
Date: 16 Aug 05 - 03:49 AM

Burke - are you there???!!

I'm STILL wondering about the origins of this song AND the group ...

A net search brings up the information that it was recorded from a radio broadcast in 1967 at radio WBBI in Abingdon, Virginia.

Now apparently the Chestnut Grove Quartet ran a gospel show for some 30 years (mid 50s to mid 80s), so POSSibly it was recorded during one of their shows.

The only references I have found to "Stancer Quartet" are to do with Mike Seeger's collection. However, a couple of sites mispell it as "Stencer Quartet".
From there, it was an easy step to consider : WHAT IF the performers' name was MISheard on the original recording from the radio : i.e. what if it was actually "Spencer Quartet"???!!!

I still didn't find proof of this theory, but there WAS a Spencer Quartet in Nottingham, PA and one in Winnepeg, MB (OK, maybe that's a bit far away?!) BUT! there is a town of Spencer in Virginia! So just MAYbe ...
What do you NE American's think??? (I'm Down Under, y'see!!)

And the origins of this particular song are still shrouded in mystery (Burke says above that it's not in the Scared Harp) - and the note-giving bloke in the quartet recording remarks that "it's a new one for us" ...

Ah well ... our a cappella group "Work-in-Progress" still love to sing this top little number, whatever the history!


Cheers! R-J


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: rich-joy
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 12:23 AM

Burke! Are you there??!!




Cheers! R-J


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: GUEST,Wooberry without cookie
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 10:39 PM

Lyr. Add: Don't you Hear the Lambs a-cryin
As sung by Mike, Peggy and Penny Seeger on
American Folk Songs for Christmas


Don't you hear the lambs a-crying?
On that other green shore?
Don't you hear the lambs a-crying?
O Good Shepherd, go feed-a my sheep!

Some for Paul and some for Silas
Some for to make-a my heart rejoice
Don't you hear the lambs a cryin'
O Good Shepherd, go feed-a my sheep!

Don't you see the stars a-shining
On that other green shore?
Don't you see the stars a-shining
O Good Shepherd, go feed-a my sheep!

Some for Paul and some for Silas
Some for to make-a my heart rejoice
Don't you hear the lambs a cryin'
O Good Shepherd, go feed-a my sheep!

Don't you hear the lambs a-crying?
On that other green shore?
Don't you hear the lambs a-crying?
O Good Shepherd, go feed-a my sheep!

Will be getting the book by Ruth Seeger where this version was come from

Diana

PS not sure how to get the Lyr add. moniker on my message


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 03 Dec 05 - 12:15 PM

Many versions of this old gospel song. It has been called a southern mountain hymn. I haven't heard the quartet recorded on Smithsonian-Folkways.

Lyr. Add: You Hear the Lambs A-Cryin' (Work)

Refrain:
You hear the lambs a-cryin',
Hear the lambs a-cryin',
Hear the lambs a-cryin',
O Shepherd feed my sheep.
(Repeat)

Leader:
My Saviour spoke these words so sweet,
sayin' "Peter if you love me feed my sheep."
Chorus
"(My) Lord I love Thee Thou dost know
O give me grace to love Thee more"
Chorus
    Wasn't that an awful shame
He hung three hours in mortal pain.

Chorus: (Response)
O Shepherd feed my sheep,
O shepherd feed my sheep,
You feed my sheep.

John W. Work, 1940, "American Negro Songs and Spirituals," p. 114, with music.
Also in Songs of Zion, 128, harmony by Verolga Nix, 1933.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: Allan C.
Date: 03 Dec 05 - 02:22 PM

This seems to be closely related to (or more accurately, the parent song of,) one the Jefferson Airplane did on their "Volunteers" album, called, "Good Shepherd." You can hear a sound clip of it here.

Good Shepherd
Trad.;Arranged by Kaukonen

If you want to get to heaven
Over on the other shore
Stay out of the way of the blood-stained bandit
Oh good shepherd
Feed my sheep
One for Paul
One for Silas
One for to make my heart rejoice
Can't you hear my lambs a-callin'
Oh good shepherd
Feed my sheep
If you want to get to heaven
Over on the other shore
Stay out of the way of the long-tongue liar
Oh good shepherd
Feed my sheep
If you want to get to heaven
Over on the other shore
Stay out of the way of the gun shot devil
Oh good shepherd
Feed my sheep

_______________

I was always taken by the tune. It seemed to me to be of traditional origins long before I ever saw the credits info. Just a few months ago I was pleasantly surprised to find a more traditional version of it among a Smithsonian collection CD I have.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 03 Dec 05 - 03:06 PM

Allan C, is the version you have on S-F by a quartet? If it is the one in the Mike Seeger collection (?Stancer Quartet), a transcription would be much appreciated.

An unusual version by Kaukonen.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: WooBerry
Date: 03 Dec 05 - 10:26 PM

The Jefferson Airplane song seems to have similar words, but not the same tune as the Seeger one.
You can hear the difference: Don't you hear the lambs a-cryin

Diana


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 03 Dec 05 - 11:03 PM

Still looking for lyrics of the old S-F recording of an unnamed (Stancer?) quartet, not the three Seegers. The Seegers probably based their version on this one, since Mike Seeger had something to do with its recording. Burke has posted part of it above, I think.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: WooBerry
Date: 04 Dec 05 - 08:37 AM

From my understanding, the Seegers based their recordings on their mother's book, of the same title as the album: American Folk Songs for Christmas.

Diana


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 04 Dec 05 - 01:04 PM

The Seegers' version is not the one I asked for. See posts by Rich-Joy and Burke, 18 and 20 Oct 01; full lyrics of partial version posted by Rich-Joy would be appreciated.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: Allan C.
Date: 04 Dec 05 - 02:33 PM

Q, I don't have the version you require. My source is the CD titled: A Treasury of Library of Congress Field Recordings, (Selected and Annotated by Stephen Wade;) Rounder 1500.

In an article referring to this CD, called "From Bauhaus to Shoehouse"
(by Bob Tarte, The Beat magazine, Volume 17, Number 2, 1998,) one finds:

Axe murderer Jimmy Strothers' dark homily "Blood-Stained Banders" bubbles up archaic invectives for the devil that huddles behind every stranger's face. (Jefferson Airplane fans will recognize this song as the source of "Good Shepherd" on 1969's Volunteers).

My own transcription of the lyrics follows.

Blood-Stained Banders

If you want to get to heaven,
Just over on the other shore,
Keep out the way of the blood-stained banders
O good shepherd, feed my sheep

Chorus:
Some for Paul,
Some for Silas,
Some for to make-a my heart rejoice.
Don't you hear the lambs a-crying?
O good shepherd, feed my sheep.

If you want to get to heaven,
Just over on the other shore,
Keep out the way of the gunshot devil
O good shepherd, feed my sheep

(Chorus)

If you want to get to heaven,
Just over on the other shore,
Keep out the way of the long-tongued liars
O good shepherd, feed my sheep

(Chorus)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 04 Dec 05 - 09:32 PM

The Smithsonian Folkways recording SF CD 40097, entitled "Close to Home: Old Time Music from Mike Seeger's Collection" contains track number 37: "He Said If You Love Me, Feed My Sheep" by the Stancer Quartet.

The liner notes:

----

He Said If You Love Me, Feed My Sheep
Stancer Quartet, vocal quartet, personnel unknown
Recorded from WBBI radio, Abingdon, VA, 2:30 PM, 8 January 1967.

If you want to hear old-time family and community singing in the South, tune in to small-town Sunday morning religious programs. Someimes, they're broadcast direct from services in small, informal churches, sometimes from radio stations, and sometimes pre-recorded in a home. I heard a beautiful solo unaccompanied singer on such a broadcast from Stuart, VA only ten years ago.

For this recording I set up my Nagra machine a the Sturgill's home one Sunday while they were at church and recorded several programs off the air. This song was part of the "Community Revivial Hour" with pastor Jim Nunley (I'm guessing at the spelling). The much better known Chestnut Grove Quartet had broadcast immediately before.

Unofrtunately, I haven't been able to find anyone in the Abingdon area who has knkowledge of the group. I can only guess that they were not together for very long. This quartet is unusual in that they have one, possibly two, women members and they occasionally sing in unison. Gospel quartets are usually all men.

--- [end liner notes by Mike Seeger, 1997].


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 04 Dec 05 - 09:46 PM

Q--
The version posted by Rich-Joy is actually all of it, without the repeats, which you'll never figure out without the original recording. Let me expand it: (The Seeger recording also includes a few spoken words of intro and outro, omitted here)

LYR ADD. HE SAID "IF YOU LOVE ME, FEED MY SHEEP" :
Stancer Quartet

1.
He said (he said) if you love me (love me) feed my sheep
He said (he said) if you love (love me) feed my sheep
There are tiny young lambs safe in the fold
But some are straying in the cold
He said (he said) if you love me (love me) feed my sheep.

REFRAIN:
Tell me who (who) did Jesus mean When he gave this urgent plea
Tell me who (who) did Jesus mean Was it you or was it me?
There are tiny young lambs safe in the fold
But some are straying in the cold
He said (he said) if you love me (love me) feed my sheep.

2.
He said (he said) if you love me (love me) feed my sheep
He said (he said) if you love (love me) feed my sheep
He knew his lambs would hungry grow
Chilling winds would often blow
He said (he said) if you love me (love me) feed my sheep.

REFRAIN

3.
He said (he said) if you love me (love me) feed my sheep
He said (he said) if you love (love me) feed my sheep
Well Peter, and James, and John are gone
But we this work must carry on
He said (he said) if you love me (love me) feed my sheep.

REFRAIN


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 04 Dec 05 - 10:57 PM

Charlie, thank you very much for the lyrics and liner notes. There are several references to mountain gospel versions of this hymn, but almost no recordings.
There are many recordings I would like to purchase, but my budget is limited.
This one by the Stancer Quartet is distinctive and well-worth posting.
Much appreciated!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: GUEST,banjerbob
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 02:56 PM

Send my yoursnailmailand I'llsend you a copy of the sheet music we put toghther. Its even in 4shapenotes.

BobW
banjerbob@comcast.net


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: Jim Pfau
Date: 26 Jul 09 - 01:40 PM

I have long assumed that this comes out of the small book, Stamps-Baxter tradition. I finally found it in Stamps-Baxter's "Fortieth Anniversary Specials," where it is copyright 1962 and attributed to Luther G. Presley.

Presley (no known relation to Elvis) was a prolific southern gospel writer, best known for writing the words to "When the Saints Go Marching In."

The 1962 copyright is consistent with the Stancer Quartet's comment that it's new to them, as well as its absence from the many Stamps-Baxter, Vaughan and other books of the 30s, 40s and before.

As far as I know, Presley has not been accused of taking credit for traditional or public domain material (a charge leveled from time to time at Albert Brumley, though I have never seen specifics).

The Stancer Quartet takes a few liberties with the tune relative to the music, but these are within the usual variations that one finds in this music when sung.

Jim


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Subject: Lyr Add: HEAR DE LAMBS A-CRYIN'.
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 09:08 AM

From Hampton and Its Students by Mary Frances Armstrong, Helen Wilhelmina Ludlow, Thomas P. Fenner (New York: G. P. Putnam's Sons, 1874), page 210:


HEAR DE LAMBS A-CRYIN'.

CHORUS: You hear de lambs a-cryin',
Hear de lambs a-cryin',
Hear de lambs a-cryin',
Oh, shepherd, feed-a my sheep.

1. Our Saviour spoke dese words so sweet:
"Oh shepherd, feed-a my sheep."
Said, "Peter, if ye love me, feed my sheep."
Oh, shepherd, feed-a my sheep.
Oh, Lord, I love Thee, Thou dost know.
Oh, shepherd, feed-a my sheep.
Oh, give me grace to love Thee mo'.
Oh, shepherd, feed-a my sheep.

2. I don' know what you want to stay here for. Oh, shepherd, &c.,
For dis vain world's no friend to grace. Oh, shepherd, &c.,
If I only had wings like Noah's dove, Oh, shepherd, &c.,
I'd fly away to de heavens above. Oh, shepherd, &c.,

3. When I am in an agony, Oh, shepherd, &c.,
When you see me, pity me, Oh, shepherd, &c.,
For I am a pilgrim travelin' on, Oh, shepherd, &c.,
De lonesome road where Jesus gone. Oh, shepherd, &c.,

4. Oh, see my Jesus hanging high. Oh, shepherd. &c.,
He looked so pale an' bled so free. Oh, shepherd. &c.,
Oh, don't you think it was a shame. Oh, shepherd, &c.,
He hung three hours in dreadful pain. Oh, shepherd. &c.,


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 01:43 PM

Dixon has posted what is probably the oldest printed version, but it appears in several collections; Work, Nix, Fisk singers, etc., well before Presley's copyright of his version.

James M. Black wrote "When the Saints ...", words by Katherine M. Purvis (thread 7003), published 1896.

Presley and others wrote variants which were put under copyright.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: Jim Pfau
Date: 08 Aug 09 - 04:40 PM

I apologize for introducing the (oft-repeated, at least in Southern Gospel circles, see http://www.sgma.org/inductee_bios/luther_g_presley.htm, but obviously incorrect) statement that Presley wrote the words to "When the Saints." That was incidental to the point that, as far as I can tell, the version of "He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep" that the Stancer Quarter sings was, in fact, written by him and copyrighted in 1962.

There are obviously many "Feed My Sheep" songs, but I'm not aware of any prior recordings or music bearing much resemblance to the Stancer version. Have I missed something in the thread above?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 08 Aug 09 - 06:10 PM

Jim Pfau, I think we are posting at cross-purposes here, but I regard the Stancer lyrics as a variant of the old "Hear de Lambs A-Cryin'," 1874, posted here by Jim Dixon, and in the Fisk Singers version.

You regard it as a separate song, which, I am sure, many people do.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: GUEST,SSTATZER
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 08:57 PM

I CAN TELL YOU ALL ABOUT THE STANCER QUARTET
THE QUARTET IS STATZER QUARTET
I AM A SON OF THE LEAD SINGER AN ALTO SINGER IN THE GROUP


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 12:49 AM

Welcome SSSTATZER and thanks for the clarification! We'd love to hear more.

You got me Googling:

The Statzer Quartet are mentioned under the "Holston River Boys " on this page: one of them is actually Stafford Statzer. They're from Abingdon, as Mike Seeger said. There are additional Google results on various Statzers in that area singing in various groups:

Shiloh Quartet from 5/31/09. The group is comprised of Rev. Walter Statzer, Mildred Statzer, Omar Barker and Frank Hanger. click

The Chestnut Grove Quartet, relatives of Rev. Walter Stazer (including Mildred Statzer) click, also at CDBaby click (check the notes/article there from Bluegrass Unlimited magazine), on YouTube.

~ Becky in Long Beach


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: GUEST,SSTATZER
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 02:37 PM

THANKS DESERT DANCER
I AM STAFFORD STATZER
THE STATZER QUARTET AT THE TIME OF THE RECORDING WAS MY FATHER, PAUL STATZER, MY MOTHER, FRANCES STATZER, MY AUNT, ANN STATZER, AND WAYNE NUNLEY
THE REV. WALTER STATZER WAS MY UNCLE

STAFFORD IN ABINGDON, VA


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: GUEST,Glenn Litchfield
Date: 27 Aug 11 - 10:42 PM

I have been looking for an old negro spiritual or hymn that has very similar lyrics. The lyrics I have been searching for are "Can't you hear the lambs a-callin'?" I am an United Methodist pastor and my first Bishop, Edsel Ammons, would sing this song to the clergy after he fixed the appointments at Annual Conference. So far, these lyrics are the closest I have been able to find in my search. Anyone have any leads for me to pursue?

glennlitchfield@yahoo.com


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 06:34 PM

Glenn Litchfield: I suspect the song you want is the one known as LISTEN TO THE LAMBS ALL A-CRYING. Words to that song have been posted in another thread (click here).


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Aug 11 - 04:16 AM

Did you email the poster?

~S~


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: GUEST,bebeatty
Date: 14 Nov 15 - 04:25 PM

Is there sheet music for this hymn and if so, where can I get it.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Dec 15 - 10:34 PM

I need the sheet music for this song


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He Said If You Love Me Feed My Sheep
From: GUEST,Barbara Beatty
Date: 25 Dec 15 - 10:57 PM

bebeatty@yahoo.com   I have been searching for the sheet music to this song since I heard the Stancer Quartet singing this on YouTube.


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