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Subject: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 20 Oct 01 - 11:07 AM Somebody mentioned this in a thread, I don't know if they were serious or not, but it seems like a good idea.Who is going? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: wysiwyg Date: 20 Oct 01 - 11:29 AM Held where? ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 20 Oct 01 - 11:45 AM America. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Mrs.Duck Date: 20 Oct 01 - 11:46 AM Sounds a great idea - have to start saving NOW! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Mr Red Date: 20 Oct 01 - 11:52 AM North, South or Central? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: wysiwyg Date: 20 Oct 01 - 12:24 PM *G* "America" is pretty big and includes South America as well as Canada. The US alone is... 'uge! So, is it going to be near Mudcat Central? ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Noreen Date: 20 Oct 01 - 12:37 PM Which thread, John? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: catspaw49 Date: 20 Oct 01 - 12:48 PM I think this was an original idea from Bill Sables. He's talked some about it and we were discussing it when he was here in June. 2006 would be the tenth anniversary of Mudcat so it would be a big event if we pull it off. Since I have a track record of never getting to anything even when I plan it, I'm probably not the one to talk to about it! A Catters Worldwide Gathering would be one helluva' deal though wouldn't it? I think the possibilities are endless and could include a "Public Invited, Donations Accepted" All-Day Concert in some large outdoor place. My first inclination would be to have it around Philly where Mudcat started but it's wide open as far as I'm concerned. No matter where it is, some are going to have to travel a llooonnnggg way and hence the start of planning now. We'll get Bill's thoughts here I'm sure and everyone needs to be thinking of how we could pull this thing together. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Noreen Date: 20 Oct 01 - 12:56 PM And we'll charter a plane from the UK... or *bright idea* we could buy a 747 right now for a very good price... anyone got a big garage? :0) |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: catspaw49 Date: 20 Oct 01 - 12:59 PM Actually, that's exactly what Bill was thinking....the charter idea. Then again, right now we could probably pick up a few airliners pretty cheap. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Linda Kelly Date: 20 Oct 01 - 01:13 PM I would love to come provided the share prices recover by then! Philly sounds good or New England. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: GUEST Date: 20 Oct 01 - 04:02 PM Dont think Max's pad is big enough for us all... |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Gareth Date: 20 Oct 01 - 04:31 PM Buying a 747 might be feasable - but I don't think fat bearded blokes going for pilot training would be that popular at the moment. Now to buy a tramp steamer - I think we could raise a crew !! Gareth |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 20 Oct 01 - 05:17 PM Now this is the way we really should travel - Rafts- click on this to visit the site and read about the Transatlantic crossing...
And I vote we get together in Newfoundland. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: The_one_and_only_Dai Date: 20 Oct 01 - 05:22 PM ...we could buy a coaster for cheap, and lay off the coast of ameri-cay waiting for merchant sea-my-en for to take their bou-un-tyyyyyyy. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: catspaw49 Date: 20 Oct 01 - 05:54 PM Newfoundland? Geeziz Mac, we could take over Newfoundland! Hey!!! We could have a homeland, a sacred land for all 'Catters. Displace the Newfies and just call it ours and................hmmmm............that's been done hasn't it? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: bill\sables Date: 20 Oct 01 - 06:08 PM What about Iceland, It would be the same difficulty for all of us except Scarpi |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Linda Kelly Date: 20 Oct 01 - 06:18 PM For cheapness and convenience Florida is probably best. Car hire /fly drive packages are reasonable and the younger Ducks could be let loose on Disneyworld!!! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Alice Date: 20 Oct 01 - 06:24 PM I challenge you all to come to Montana... plenty of space out here. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: catspaw49 Date: 20 Oct 01 - 06:31 PM I think you mentioned that before Bill and wouldn't THAT be a KICK?!?!?! I can imagine sending Skarpi a PM................. **********************************************************
Hi Skarpi Really, it's more like quite a few, and we were wondering if you could do a little legwork on it before we get there. See, we're actually planning the 10 year anniversary of Mudcat to be in Iceland so what we need from you is to set up a few hundred rooms or places for us to stay......as cheap as you can too. Then, you'll need to work out some kind of food thing for a week or so for all of us and of course we have a lot with special diets so they'll PM you separately. Arrange some transportation too so we can get around. Also, I don't know what the situation will be like by then in terms of travelling with instruments, so see if you can arrange for us to borrow a few hundred guitars, banjos, mandolins, accordions, melodeons, whistles, dulcimers (both types), dobros, and the like. Make at least half the guitars Martins and split up the rest between the other biggies. Looking forward to it as I know you are too!!! Spaw ********************************************************** After he recovers from the heart attack, I figure he can still have plenty of time to get it together. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Deda Date: 20 Oct 01 - 06:32 PM How many are we talking about? We could reserve a hotel on the coast of Maine or Nova Scotia, or even Prince Edward Island, hold the thing in August, and let the kids go wandering around in pine forests or exploring tide pools along that fabulous rocky north Atlantic coast. We'd need a stage, but if we reserve a hotel it would have something like that. Personally I'd MUCH rather travel to Maine OR Nova Scotia in the summer than go to Florida. (OTOH, what do I know? I'm a newbie and I don't really sing, except as backup to my son or bro.) At my day job I sometimes help organize conferences; this would be quite do-able with this much lead time. My 2 denarii. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 20 Oct 01 - 06:36 PM Yeah! Iceland sure gets my vote! Cab we invite Bjork as well??? Seriously - wherever it may be I would love to support it. Cheers DtG |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: bigchuck Date: 20 Oct 01 - 06:37 PM I know of a private lodge in the Adirondack high peaks that we might be able to rent reasonably after labor day. Sandy |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Susanne (skw) Date: 20 Oct 01 - 06:38 PM I'd love to come but how long would the tramp steamer take from Hamburg and back? I only get 30 days off a year ... Maybe we could do it again in 2016 - I'm hoping to be retired by then! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: bill\sables Date: 20 Oct 01 - 06:43 PM It was just a wish that I had to have a giant Mudcat Gathering, probably the bigest folk festival in the world. There would be no need to pay any musicians or singers and I'm sure there would be plenty of sponsorship from major instrument makers, music organisations and food vendors. We could charter a plane from Europe, if we have enough, to keep costs down. My idea was East coast USA around Phily. and spring time or autumn would be a good time of year, not too hot or cold. Anyway it is worth thinking about. Cheers Bill |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Gareth Date: 20 Oct 01 - 06:54 PM Thats it, I'am off to the attick to find my Grandfathers old sextant, I've got the dividers, and parallel rules. One problem about Iceland, something tells me that beer is not obtainable there, can any Catter Confirm ? SKW no problem on that, take the train to the tunnell, take another train to Liverpool, and to a chorus of LEAVING LIVERPOOL You can practise your pier head jump ! Alternatively try ACROSS THE WESTERN OCEAN Gareth, in Bully Forbes mode !! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: The_one_and_only_Dai Date: 20 Oct 01 - 07:05 PM ...What if some high-up European politoco mudcatter develops fascistic, imperialist tendencies? Then we could all get drafted and shipped over to join the EU invasion of the US via Canada (eh?) Timing might be difficult, but given a certain amount of inbuilt flexibility we might pull it off! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Linda Kelly Date: 21 Oct 01 - 05:32 AM Dai, as you know, in Hull we are aiming for world domination -invading America will be high on our list of priorities and we will drag the rest of you along with us. Yes I see it now - a world where people will be going down the 'rurd' and made to shop in' British Herm Stures'! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: The_one_and_only_Dai Date: 21 Oct 01 - 06:27 AM er, ner... ;) |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Matthew Edwards Date: 21 Oct 01 - 06:37 AM Poor Skarpi! If the Mudcatters were to invade Iceland it would double the population at one go. It would probably make for a wonderful new saga (preferably without all the tit-for-tat killings). Actually I can just begin to visualise some Mudcatters as characters in Njal's Saga; Joe Offer as the wise Njal himself. I do love Gareth's of taking a tramp steamer (do such things still exist?), and john in Hull could navigate us to see Nick Root in Newfoundland, or to Nova Scotia (watch out George!). Something to look forward to in 5 years time. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Gareth Date: 21 Oct 01 - 08:02 AM Actually with us Welsh present the tit-for-tat slayings would probably start again.
Now theres a thought for a BS or Literary thread, "The Mudcatters Saga" with shades of "the Mabginon". Or does this mean a write of "The Flying Mudcatter" Gareth |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Diva Date: 21 Oct 01 - 10:19 AM Well after Llanstock the wanderlust is on me..... it sounds like a brill idea and if I start saving now... |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 21 Oct 01 - 12:09 PM I have just looked at a map of America, it looks like a really big place! Were in America does mickey mouse live? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: catspaw49 Date: 21 Oct 01 - 01:27 PM Originally he lived in California, but he has pretty well relocated his home and base of operations to Orlando, Florida. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: DougR Date: 21 Oct 01 - 05:19 PM Susanne: If you left Hamburg today, you probably could get there by 2016! DougR |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Susan from California Date: 21 Oct 01 - 05:31 PM The beer thing re Iceland is true, at least it was last time I checked (20+ years ago). Tourists are allowed to bring some in (a 12 pack?) for personal consumption, bit you cannot buy it there. You can buy the hard stuff, as I recall, beer was thought to be the bane of the working class. :-) |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: mooman Date: 21 Oct 01 - 05:36 PM Count me in!! How about Nova Scotia as some have suggested? Best regards mooman |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Gareth Date: 21 Oct 01 - 05:37 PM Thank Susan from Calf. Thats it then. Icelands out !! Gareth |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Mrs.Duck Date: 21 Oct 01 - 05:47 PM I quite agree Gareth-no beer - too scary. Can't we just drive wagons out in to the desert and put them in a circle? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Linda Kelly Date: 21 Oct 01 - 05:51 PM er-there's a desert near Pontefract Jane? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: The_one_and_only_Dai Date: 21 Oct 01 - 05:54 PM If beer is a mjor factor in the equation, then there are only two places we could possibly consider. The UK, and Belgium. I vote for the UK :) |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Gareth Date: 21 Oct 01 - 05:57 PM Dai - are there sheep in Flanders ? Gareth |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Mrs.Duck Date: 21 Oct 01 - 06:04 PM You mean there isn't Linda? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Noreen Date: 21 Oct 01 - 06:06 PM ...people have been known to get lost there never to be seen again... all that was left was a faint whiff of licqorice.. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Amergin Date: 21 Oct 01 - 06:52 PM Well...we could always get ahold of the former Aryan Nations Compound in Hayden Lake...and we could have our own armies...would train them in morris dancing...and the gurads could all be carrying banjos and bodhrans and kazoos....no one would dare come near us... |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: DougR Date: 21 Oct 01 - 06:55 PM Mrs. Duck: we got lots of desert! You got to have your own wagon though. Come on out! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: The_one_and_only_Dai Date: 21 Oct 01 - 07:09 PM Sut mae, Gar, there are sheep everywhere mate. Come and join the expat community, why don't you indeed! :) |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 21 Oct 01 - 07:13 PM Hoe canyou hav a folk festibal with no beer? if ther is no beer i an not going.john |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: The_one_and_only_Dai Date: 21 Oct 01 - 07:30 PM What kind of guitar do you have to play to make yourself type that badly? ;) |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Robin2 Date: 21 Oct 01 - 07:39 PM Oh boy, Nova Scotia sounds great (gives me an excuse to go there)
Lousiville KY is the United Parcel Service's International hub, and I hear they are booking REALLY cheap passenger fares, if you don't mind flying with packages. Does this put Louisivlle in the running for a place to have it? But Philly is what I can afford, and have friends I can stay with there....tell me it's gonna happen, I'd love to come! Robin |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Midchuck Date: 21 Oct 01 - 07:40 PM I like Alice's idea, also bigchuck's. 'Tho the place bc is thinking of wouldn't be big enough unless a lot of people brought tents. By the way, there is good beer in the US. Lots of it. It's just mainly made by small breweries, that don't advertise nationally the way the big dishwater operations do. Peter. (who saw people in the UK drinking Budweiser! For Gawd's sake, why?) |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 21 Oct 01 - 07:43 PM I have just read my last post here, in this thread.I think the keys on my keyboarf are too close together! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: The_one_and_only_Dai Date: 21 Oct 01 - 07:45 PM Jonh, I thnki that shlkdu hve read 'Kybard'. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: bill\sables Date: 21 Oct 01 - 07:50 PM You must excuse John in Hull It is late and he is probably pissed. Bill |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 21 Oct 01 - 07:50 PM this is goinf off topic, who is going to Ameeica? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 21 Oct 01 - 07:56 PM Bill is righjt, I been drinking beer.john |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: The_one_and_only_Dai Date: 21 Oct 01 - 07:57 PM I'd like to point out that I am at least as pissed as john, and my typing is prefect. And you're right, I'd love to go to the colonies *ahem* the former colonies, but unfortunately have little to offer in the way of practical or considered opinion, for a change. But FWIW, count me in. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: WyoWoman Date: 21 Oct 01 - 08:07 PM I vote Yes, and I vote East Coast, U.S. of A. I can figure out a way to get meself up there, for sure. Although Alice's idea of Montana would certainly provide an experience even only a few Americans have had. But much as I love that region, New England would be easier to reach and probably has a higher concentration of Mudcateers, yes? Maybe by then I'll actually be able to play the guitar at the SAME TIME I sing, and in FRONT of PEOPLE!!! Whoo-hoo! We can start making little 'possum doodads now to sell as concessions, along with the usual kissing booths and foot-rub booths and Oh-my-what-are-you-going-to-do-with-THAT booths. ww |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: brid widder Date: 21 Oct 01 - 08:08 PM possibly...hopefully....maybe even probably...any chance of a lift John? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 21 Oct 01 - 08:16 PM I''m too pissed to drive, sorry! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: alanww Date: 22 Oct 01 - 05:35 AM I can vouch for the fact that there are some great little homebrew pubs in New England, which serve English-type ale. And the fall is rather spectacular! I seem to recall a wonderfully-tasting porter in a little pub somewhere in Vermont (once it had been allowed to warm up a bit!). I was there on a morris tour with the Chameleonic Morris Men in 1999 and the local morris sides (and folkies generally) were very hospitable. We had a great time and were there for 10 days - you would need to plan for at least a week I think. Ale, ale glorious ale, served up in pewter it tells its own tale!" |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Mooh Date: 22 Oct 01 - 06:24 AM My choices would be Cape Breton or Newfoundland, not too large an unban centre (if at all), I'd actually like to travel though southern Ontario would be oh so convenient. This is a great idea! Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Ella who is Sooze Date: 22 Oct 01 - 06:33 AM I'd prefer somewhere along the East coast... I like the East coast areas some real nice places - loads to see... Florida....erm... YUK! Sorry that's a personal yuk, not meant to be contraversial, but that's what I think... East coast is fairly reasonable (flight prices) to get to too. E |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Tone d' F Date: 22 Oct 01 - 07:10 AM I'm game and will proberably bring ferret and Jon A just make it somewhere hot. Lousiville KY the United Parcel Service's International hub sounds warm do we travel with or in the parcels
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Fortunato Date: 22 Oct 01 - 11:13 AM Camp Ramblewood in Darlington, MD. Click here
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Llanfair Date: 22 Oct 01 - 11:27 AM I don't care where we go in the US, as long as we go and meet lots and lots of our American friends. Cheers, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Troll Date: 22 Oct 01 - 11:39 AM Take it from the troll,folks, you DON'T want to be in Florida in the summer. Trust me on this one, OK? troll |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: DougR Date: 22 Oct 01 - 12:58 PM How about we all move in on Kendall in Maine? :>) DougR |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Amergin Date: 22 Oct 01 - 01:20 PM Sounds like a grand idea, Doug...and maybe if we are lucky we get to meet lots of the colourful folk up there...like this one guy (I wonder if Kendall knows him) by the name of Gordon Bok....anyone ever hear of him? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Alice Date: 22 Oct 01 - 02:46 PM Maine sounds good. Kendall, are you ready to be invaded? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Noreen Date: 22 Oct 01 - 03:36 PM You've got time to build that extension as you always intended, Kendall... |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Mrs.Duck Date: 22 Oct 01 - 05:52 PM We Ducks don't do hot so Vermont sounds great but much as I love Mickey Mouse I could not cope with Florida (went at Easter once and that was bad enough!) |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Diva Date: 22 Oct 01 - 06:00 PM I don't do hot either......so I'm with the Ducks |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Snuffy Date: 22 Oct 01 - 07:33 PM Couldn't we take over something like Mystic Seaport for a week in the early spring? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Charlie Baum Date: 22 Oct 01 - 09:57 PM Camp Ramblewood is the closest thing to West Chester, PA, home of Max and the Mudcat server. Near Philadelphia. Also close to Washington, DC, which is probably the biggest conglomeration of Mudcatters. Third weekend in October! Fall colors are incredible then. (You'll invade the FSGW Getaway.) It'll cost somewhere between $130 and $150 per person for the weekend, including all meals and a bed in a group cabin. (Your travel expenses are extra, but nearby Baltimore has cheap flights to many places.) Camp's overnight capacity is almost 500, and with daytrippers, the numbers can go into the thousands. (They're planning a BIG folk festival there next May.) You can practice by coming next year and the year after, if you can afford it, or save up your travel dough for 2006. --Charlie Baum |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: MMario Date: 22 Oct 01 - 10:03 PM and it would be worth every penny! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 22 Oct 01 - 10:22 PM Getaway sounds good Charlie, how much is $150 in proper money? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Charlie Baum Date: 22 Oct 01 - 10:32 PM Not sure what you consider proper money. 150 USDollars = 168.316 Euros = 105.260 UKpounds |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 22 Oct 01 - 10:37 PM Thanks Charlie, UK pounds are proper money, Britain has decided not to use Euros! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: catspaw49 Date: 22 Oct 01 - 10:38 PM Nope.........If we can pull this off at all, it'd be a Catter function. Let's sat we pull 150 Catters......The actual FSGW schedule and all will be boogered up beyond recognition. Besides, a lot of folks are going to be getting together in everchanging "packs" and I can see some unfortunate situations developing. Then again, I'm probably wrong. Skip it. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Ella who is Sooze Date: 23 Oct 01 - 08:10 AM Agrees with Troll... Florida - summer... PHEW! 100+ in the shade!!! nuh uh! Not for me. Done that, wilted for over two weeks. Double nuh huh! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: MMario Date: 23 Oct 01 - 09:05 AM 'spaw - a lot of FSGW folks are closet catters anyway - it would work. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: pattyClink Date: 23 Oct 01 - 09:10 AM I'm with Deda (Maine or Nova Scotia or PEI)or bigchuck (Adirondacks). Wild horses singing folk songs could not get me to Orlando! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: GUEST,mgarvey@pacifier.com Date: 23 Oct 01 - 10:52 AM I vote for East Coast US..Philly sounds great..the main thing is to be near airports that have good flights...getting to Canada can be pretty expensive...if it was a bit more toward Boston, people who wanted to go on to Newfoundland or Maine could find flights, ferries, etc...well, from Portland to Nova Scotia there is a ferry. And having something easy to get to from an airport is also important.....flying from Germany say and then havingt to rent a car and drive a few hours might not be fun with jet lag. mg |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 23 Oct 01 - 12:03 PM Midchuck said: Peter. (who saw people in the UK drinking Budweiser! For Gawd's sake, why?) Because they don't like BEER, that's why! Dave Oesterreich
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Eric the Viking Date: 23 Oct 01 - 01:23 PM What time of year,? Easter is about the only chance I would get, unless it goes on in one of the half terms, but then it becomes a midweek meeting. Last week in August is reasonably sound. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Liz the Squeak Date: 23 Oct 01 - 02:52 PM Bratling wants to come, so do I! LTS |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Steve in Idaho Date: 23 Oct 01 - 03:01 PM Troll is correct - Florida is HOT in the summer. I like the Philly idea. Anywhere up there in October would be a riot! And the Fall colors are incredible as I recall. I think this would be a good idea. Steve |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: SharonA Date: 23 Oct 01 - 05:25 PM Eric: If it's to be in the Philly area, it probably shouldn't be the last weekend in August, since that is the weekend of the Philadelphia Folk Festival. The local folkies will be flocking to that as well as putting up their friends from out of town, and the non-local folkies will be either camping out at the Fest or clogging up the local motels, so it might be hard to find a place to stay in the area that weekend. Actually, I'd vote for September in the Philly area: the weather is less likely to be terribly chilly, and the local folk scene is "between" the summer festival season and the regular autumn-spring concert season. June's nice, too. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Burke Date: 23 Oct 01 - 06:01 PM I like the Adirondack idea myself, but it should probably be closer to a transportation center. Think that would mean Boston, NYC, Philly, or DC. Berkshires? Catskills? Poconos? How many people are teachers or students who would need a June-Aug. date rather than something earlier or later? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Allan C. Date: 24 Oct 01 - 09:02 AM It seems to me that if there were folks coming across the pond (expecially for the first time) to the U.S., they would want to have access to other nearby attractions in order to do the tourist thing when not at the gathering. Reasonable proximity to an international airport could be an important factor as well. As much as I would want to see such a gathering happen in the western part of the States, (knowing that there are 'Catters out there who are quite nearly as geographically separated from eastern U.S. folk events as the 'Catters in the U.K.,) I think that Ramblewood seems to fill the bill. It has lots of sleeping space, seems to tolerate tent-campers as well, has a huge central meeting area, large-enough dining facilities and plenty of "break-out" areas for workshops, etc.. Besides, the grounds are really quite pretty. Another consideration is that if we were expecting any sort of commercial support from music-oriented companies, they would be more likely to support something that is located not too far off the beaten track. The Getaway has so far been a rather un-commercialized event; but something like what we are considering might need to have more involvement along those lines to help subsidize costs. Autumn is generally the best time for any such gathering because the temperatures are usually more tolerable and rain is less of a possibility (I think) than it is in spring. Besides, as has been pointed out, the whole area is really quite beautiful at that time of year. If we planned to hold the international gathering just before the annual Getaway, some of the visitors might possibly be able to stay over for that (unless, of course, the two events were somehow combined [hint, hint]).
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Cllr Date: 24 Oct 01 - 10:24 AM What if some high-up European politoco mudcatter develops fascistic, imperialist tendencies? What are you insinuating? and what do you mean If? Cllr |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: The_one_and_only_Dai Date: 24 Oct 01 - 10:58 AM touché, my honourable friend... are you volunteering for this excellent plan of mine then?? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Eric the Viking Date: 24 Oct 01 - 11:56 AM I'm still stuck to school holidays whatever the time. The main summer break-I'd never get leave of absence from the Mrs and kids- gettting to the states will be a hard enough job-they all want to go!(Also can't get time off school!) I'm not one for tourist things unless it's Civil war sites. Looks like I'll never get there. Unless I'm not working then, having won the lotto!!! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: DeanC Date: 24 Oct 01 - 12:14 PM If you want to seriously consider this idea then you need to think about the following. You will have to reserve someplace by putting up some money and guaranteeing some amount. It's not clear to me that Mudcat can do that on its own. For that reason you may wish to more seriously consider the FSGW Getaway at Camp Ramblewood as the vehicle for this gathering. FSGW already fronts and guarantees the cash. They also provide insurance, a sound system, and lots of logistical support for the event. I don't think FSGW would mind at all. Camp Ramblewood is with a couple of hours of Washington, Baltimore, and Philadelphia (only about an hour from West Chester, PA, the home of Mudcat) and 3 to 4 hours from New York. That gives people plenty of flight options with reasonable drives to the camp. The only real downside I can see to using the Getaway is that it is during the school year, and those of us that have kids might find it a little more difficult to deal with that. There is plenty of room for kids, and they have as good a time as the adults according to my son. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: annamill Date: 24 Oct 01 - 12:16 PM I wonder where I'll be and what I'll be doing 6 years from now?? I hope to be in La Jolla, Cali way before then... Well, where ever I am, I'll be there. I think Ramblewood is a great idea and we should set up a Getaway 2006 fund to help our friends who wouldn't be able to get there otherwise, get there. If we start now, we could have a pretty penny by then. We would need a collector, and an investor to increase any monies collected. A pro if possible. Of course we could just throw it in the bank and get 2% or 3%. Many more could be there. I would like to have the gathering separate from our FSGW meeting though. I would like to see it all Mudcatters. Great idea that has been thrown around for about two years now. Let's do it! Love, Annamill |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: catspaw49 Date: 24 Oct 01 - 12:21 PM Well Dean, as I just posted on the other thread about interaction problems, I don't think it's worth the risk to the relationship. The two events might work out within some time proximity of each other or not. But judging from the responses on the other thread.......I still think it's no a good idea. Sorry Allan.......But then again, my track record for attendance at these things is pretty gawdawful so maybe I need to keep my mouth shut........too late for that... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: GUEST,Noreen Date: 24 Oct 01 - 01:01 PM annamill, I wonder where I'll be and what I'll be doing 6 years from now?? thinking back with happy memories of the previous year's Mudcat World Gathering, I hope! *grin* |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: annamill Date: 24 Oct 01 - 01:11 PM Tee Hee! Me too, as well as floating in a cool ocean in February enjoying the heat from a warm sun. California dreamin'. L.A. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: GUEST,Noreen Date: 24 Oct 01 - 01:36 PM *sigh* Maybe we'll all come to you then? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Charlie Baum Date: 24 Oct 01 - 01:51 PM Even if you want to do a weekend separate from the Getaway, Ramblewood might be a good facility, providing the weather isn't too cold. (For a cold-weather place, may I suggest a seaside hotel in off-season, where the rates will be cheap? Places on the [New] Jersey shore, or Ocean City, MD come to mind.) And as Dean noted above, there are logistics to be dealt with; insurance, and cash to guarantee the rental (and cover shortfalls, if attendance isn't what it's supposed to be). --Charlie Baum Note to Erik the Viking: US Civil War sites such as Gettysburg, Antietam, and Harper's Ferry are within an hour-and-a-half's drive of the area. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Burke Date: 24 Oct 01 - 05:15 PM Are we talking something just on a weekend? With this amount of lead time & people coming a long way, why not make it a real vacation, longer & during the week, or a least running into the week. If we wanted to coordinate with FSGW, make it Mon.-Thurs. the week following. I bet the rates would be cheaper then as well. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: GUEST,Ickle in Whitby Date: 25 Oct 01 - 01:34 PM I realise at this moment in time, that I need to rush to the nearest Safeways and buy one of those giant bottles of Whiskey drink it in one go, and then start putting pound coins in it. Oh the sacrifice!!!! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Noreen Date: 25 Oct 01 - 06:42 PM I'll help you out, Ickle... (cybercafés have come to Whitby????) |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Jeri Date: 25 Oct 01 - 07:09 PM I think Ramblewood would be a good idea, but not Getaway weekend. There will undoubtedly be a lot of Mudcat-related stuff, and it causes some hard feelings now. It would be worse with more Mudcatters. I DO think we should invite folks from FSGW, as they've generously opened their doors to us for 3 years now. It would be just plain rude not to, and I happen to like a lot of them and their music! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: MMario Date: 25 Oct 01 - 08:33 PM I agree. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: The_one_and_only_Dai Date: 26 Oct 01 - 09:26 AM If by some chance it was on the West Coast, couldn't we rent this 'Bohemian Grove' place I've heard about? Sounds like groups of friends take trips out there quite often, for 2-week holidays. Hmmmmm? Dai - quoting from the Liber Fubar again |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Fibula Mattock Date: 26 Oct 01 - 09:36 AM Just a suggestion - off-season coastal towns were mentioned, but how about out-of-season ski resorts? I was at a conference in one before. They'd be a good price and could hold a load of people. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Linda Kelly Date: 26 Oct 01 - 10:43 AM But I don't ski..... |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: catspaw49 Date: 26 Oct 01 - 11:20 AM That's OK....Off season there ain't no snow! Well maybe just a bit depending on the place..........Unless the ski lodge is in the flatlands of course where there ain't no hills........ Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 02 Feb 02 - 11:59 AM I think this is a good idea, could we all put money together and hire a plane? How much will it be roughly? If people are travelling from all over the world could we go for a full week? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Rolfyboy6 Date: 02 Feb 02 - 03:04 PM Just as an addition/restatement, there are multiple areas of the Mid-Atlantic states which have the necessary airport access, the lodging, the semi-rural or rural environment, and access to worthwhile tourist facilities and sites similar to Camp Ramblewood. The Poconos come to mind. The Ramblewood site sounds great if it is do-able, and there are others. Sounds like the criteria needed are being worked on here now. Also, about heat: It can be dog-day hot anywhere inland in North America during June thru October. UK Mudcatters might discover why beer is cold here (it goes with a damp t-shirt). |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: GUEST Date: 04 Jun 02 - 06:23 PM refresh |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Big Mick Date: 05 Jun 02 - 12:52 AM You folks need a good organizer? Mick |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Peg Date: 05 Jun 02 - 09:51 AM Nova Scotia sounds great. I agree with those who say that it is necessary to have the location be near a major airport, to keep flying prices down and make ground travel less problematic. There is a ferry which travels from Portland, Maine to Nova Scotia which, by 2006, will be accessible via commuter train from Boston! So there's a thought. Nova Scotia is rather a long drive and I hear the ferry is great! (you can bring your car on it, too, if you want). I assume most people will want to do this in summer or fall; I think the Northeast US/Nova Scotia would be the best bet weather-wise. Autumn is more likely off-season for Nova Scotia. I think we simply need to reserve a hotel to get group rates, and maybe try to find a beach or public park nearby where we could have outdoor barbecues and picnics and sing-arounds...also the hotel should have function rooms that we could have indoor music events in, as well as a room for merchants to sell their CDs, t-shirts, etc. and smaller rooms if anyone wants to hold workshops or specific music events during the week. (I'd guess most people will merely want to socialize and have small song circles so the "organized" events should be kept to a minimum). those are my thoughts, so far.
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 05 Jun 02 - 11:00 AM If it was Nova Scotia I'd definitely make the effort. But Ramblewood seems to be getting the vote, which sounds pretty good too. If that's not possible, and it's during vacations (September?) it would be worth checking some colleges, many of which could provide all accomodation (including camping) on site, along with a first-class auditorium. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Amergin Date: 05 Jun 02 - 11:41 AM here is part 2 of this thread: click here |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: annamill Date: 05 Jun 02 - 01:43 PM Hi. I'm all for the FSGW Maryland place. It is a perfect setup for this type of an affair. I believe this was discussed while Bill was over here and even then it seemed to be the consensus. I've bought a 34' boat and Glenn and I have named it "The Getaway". That is what we call the FSGW event. Love, Annamill |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Sorcha Date: 30 May 05 - 05:06 PM Refresh! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Sorcha Date: 30 May 05 - 05:08 PM OK, is somebody going to Organize this or is it dead? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: mooman Date: 30 May 05 - 05:18 PM I'm sure this has been mentioned in a more recent thread. Wasn't the last idea somewhere in Nova Scotia? Peace moo |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: skarpi Date: 30 May 05 - 07:25 PM Spaw no proplem , we could arrange some of this and the beer it´s flooding here in Iceland , 20years ago comon..... times change you know you can get as much beer you like . Iceland out yeh right ....hahahahahaha all the best Skarpi Iceland. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: GUEST,Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 30 May 05 - 07:50 PM East coast USA, or Iceland (but only at the height of summer), either works for me. I retire in Feb '06, and, if a charter from England were cheap enow, I'd love to come. Keep me posted by PM, please. Don T. PS. Back door, as guest, 'cos the front's locked up agin. DT. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Liz the Squeak Date: 31 May 05 - 01:52 AM SO WHAT IS HAPPENING? I've just about got Manitas to a point where he has said, yes, we can go to America next year, but we need to know when and where! I can bring copies of the Just Desserts cookbook with me..... if that's any enticement? LTS |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: skarpi Date: 31 May 05 - 04:14 AM Last time i saw this thread it was Novia Scotia?? All the best Skarpi Iceland. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: mooman Date: 31 May 05 - 11:54 AM See...I got an echo back from Iceland! Peace moo (hoping to come wherever it is) |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: jacqui.c Date: 31 May 05 - 12:35 PM Sounds like a great idea - I know that there was some talk, after the last Getaway, of arranging a Mudcat meet. So far as organising is concerned Big Mick's good that way and I would be happy to help out in any way I can. Based on accessability for as many Mudcatters as possible it sounds as if the East Coast USA is getting to be favourite. Do we have agreement? We will need to scout around for sites, like NOW, to get anything for next year. Who's really serious about this? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 31 May 05 - 03:42 PM Me for one, Jacqui, But the pension is small, and the cost would need to be fairly low. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: GUEST,Peter Woodruff Date: 31 May 05 - 03:50 PM I wish that we could all meet in Nova Scotia...because we could all see how life should be. Peter |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Liz the Squeak Date: 31 May 05 - 04:24 PM If wishes were horses we'd all be on Derby winners..... WE NEED CONFIRMED PLACES PLEASE! :TS |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: skarpi Date: 31 May 05 - 05:24 PM Alright then I´ll sail the the same way the vikings did to Newfoundland ....... on a plane though I don´t have any ship. Novia Scotia..here we come I´ll talk to the Rose´s in the band. All the best Skarpi Iceland, although it coult be In Iceland but.......it will be some Gathering in the future i hope. Slán. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: jacqui.c Date: 31 May 05 - 05:47 PM Peter - are there any suitable sites with sufficient accomodation at reasonable cost in Nova Scotia? Can you give details? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Sorcha Date: 31 May 05 - 08:00 PM OK, looks like Peter is signing up to be the Organizer!!! LOL |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: number 6 Date: 31 May 05 - 11:02 PM Nova Scotia sounds good to me! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: jacqui.c Date: 01 Jun 05 - 08:22 AM Shopping list for a site:- Accommodation for a good number of people - we really need a rough head count of who is genuinely interested and will be able to make it so let's see some posts please. Enough meeting areas to set up different workshops and gigs, and space for a larger concert. Good access to eateries or on site catering. Provision of space for those who wish to use RV's or tents. Relatively easy access from major airports. Anyone want to add to the list? Anyone got any other ideas for a venue and, if so, can you check out sites in your area? It may be getting a bit late in the day to really get anything off the ground now but I reckon it's worth trying. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: kendall Date: 01 Jun 05 - 08:50 AM Amergin, Gordon Bok is my oldest best friend in the world, and in order to keep it that way, I'm not even going to suggest what you asked! John, Mickey Mouse lives in the White House, Washington DC. Wherever you have it, we will be there. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Liz the Squeak Date: 02 Jun 05 - 04:35 AM Jacqui - I see the flaw in your reasoning already. People won't sign up for a place until they have a definate place to sign up for.... and they prefer to be given a choice of dates. I would suggest picking three or four date options, asking people to sign up against those dates and then picking the one most convenient to the most folks. I for one, am not too bothered where or when, I just want to be there and will take Limpit out of school if necessary so she can come too! The opportunity to travel never came to me until I was in my 20s, all her little friends zoom off to Ibiza & Tenerife and she gets to go to Whitby and Wimborne! You just have to promise to teach her some American history/geography so I can put it down as an educational visit! LTS |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Catherine Jayne Date: 02 Jun 05 - 04:45 AM Is the Gathering going to be be near the Getaway dates next year??...we are going to the Getaway and would love to be able to attend the World Gathering too....although it might come to chosing between one or the other!...any dates yet??... |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: Liz the Squeak Date: 02 Jun 05 - 05:26 AM Pack a big case Khatt - I'll be in it with Limpit! LTS |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006 From: jacqui.c Date: 02 Jun 05 - 07:48 PM Problem is, until we have a rough idea of who wants to go it and suggestions for actual venues it isn't really possible to give any dates, as we could not be certain of getting a venue for that date. So far there seems to be very little interest - or 'catters just haven't got into this thread. You might be best off, Liz, coming to the 2006 Getaway with Limpit. |
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