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Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: Charley Noble Date: 17 Apr 21 - 11:44 AM Nice to see this thread revived. This is the kind of fun we used to have here on this forum. Cheerily, Charlie Ipcar |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: GUEST,Robert Hilton. Date: 17 Apr 21 - 11:17 AM I'd like to post the tune for Skint in Glasgow, or Baron Line. It's the strong tune sung years ago in the Queen Vic Sailors' Rest tears ago on pub carry outs. I'm hoping to gather enough fragments to post it on a sea song site. I can't quite see how to post an audio or a video. I tried to create a link but the email site asks doesn't accept any of my passwords for my email account. I'll watch this site for a few days. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: Steve Gardham Date: 23 Jan 21 - 01:17 PM Ossonflags is working on the song for our next album. He's using 2 different tunes. The chorus tune is obviously 'Roll along covered wagon' and I've given him the original sheet music from the 20s, but he's putting the verse tune to an old Scottish song sung by an old mate of ours Jock Manuel, called The Gallant Forty-twa'. Is this the same tune as 'Nicky Tams'? It certainly fits well enough. I've suggested we keep the changing chorus for the album track but to stick to one chorus for gigs. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: GUEST,Archie H.Linton Date: 23 Jan 21 - 09:53 AM I sailed on the Baron Pentland in 1961,first time I heard it sung to the tune of “ Nicky Tams “ a Scottish Bothy Ballad . |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: GUEST,NAVY man Date: 29 Aug 16 - 09:43 AM Thanks to everyone for the posts most informative does anyone remember the the rhyme the 8 to 12 were all good men but they were f#@&ed by half past ten. The 12 to 4 they did their best but they were f#@&ed just like the rest. That's all I remember not Sure of this just a distant memory, perhaps some one can post it if they remember. I have the Kiwi bout song if any one is interested.NAVY man |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: GUEST Date: 09 Dec 15 - 09:47 AM Hugh Hogarths aka Hungry Hughy Registerd in Ardrossan |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: ossonflags Date: 25 Feb 07 - 09:01 AM yeh, but no. but yeh......................... has anyone the tune? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: Charley Noble Date: 24 Feb 07 - 02:28 PM This has to be one of my favorite "working songs" threads. Cyrill Tawney would have loved it! Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: ossonflags Date: 24 Feb 07 - 12:11 PM Thought i would refresh this as still have not got a tune for the song. As anyone out there got any ideas about the tune? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: John MacKenzie Date: 21 Sep 06 - 02:35 PM The words and chorus suggest 'Git along little Dogies' to me Charley. Giok |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: GUEST,GUEST, Jay Dee Date: 21 Sep 06 - 11:39 AM In reply to SAILOR RON, 05Aug05, No tune to "Baron Line song" but re: your second request, "My father was a fireman on the Elder Dempster Line" In Harrisons we sang, "My father was a bosun in the Harrison Line", to the tune of Harry Belafonty's "Marrianne" (Can't remember the words now). Also thanks to GUEST, 30Jan06, for complete lyrics to "Don't Work for the Baron Line". I also sailed in the Glennconner in the late 50's. The name "Boika" rings a bell. Also sailed in the Baron Minto, early 60's. Regards, Jay Dee, (Belly robber) |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: GUEST,SAILORON Date: 13 Jul 06 - 11:04 AM Breton Cap, my secret is out! Aye it is me. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: Charley Noble Date: 12 Jul 06 - 06:25 PM Sailoron- You're right, of course. It's Hughie Jones who I heard sing "Shaw Saville's Buccaneers." I sure appreciate the lyrics sheet that he provides with his CD. I'd have a hard time decoding what's going on without it. Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: Dave Earl Date: 12 Jul 06 - 12:12 PM Now I think I know who you are Sailoron ! Was it you who was at a conferance on the South Coast a little while ago? If it was then your Elizabeth and mine plus you and I had a few drinks and a meal together at your Hotel. Dave |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: GUEST,SAILORON Date: 12 Jul 06 - 11:55 AM CHARLEY,glad you'd like to see them. I didn't know Johnnie Collins had recorded Shaw Saville's Buccaneers, I know Hughie Jones has, along with "Blood on the ice". Is this 'thread' the right one to put songs that are not about Baron Line? If so I'll 'post' a few. Incidentally a ditty I heard about Hodarths[owners of Baron Line]... You've heard of Hungry Hogarths? The worst feeders on the sea Their salt beef sailed with Nelson Aboard the Victory. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: Charley Noble Date: 10 Jul 06 - 06:08 PM I recently heard a rendition of "Shaw Savilles Buccaneers," on a Johnny Collins CD I believe. It's a fine rousing song. Do search out and refresh some of your old threads so we can admire them. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: GUEST,SAILORON Date: 10 Jul 06 - 11:25 AM Charley Noble, you asked for other M.N. songs. I have "posted" one or two [but being an idiot I can't remember which ones]. The titles I have :- Blood on the Ice, Shaw Savilles Buccaneers, Bye Bye Clan Line, M.V.Hardship, Clan Boat leaving Bombay, Goodbye Scottish Tankers plus several odd verses. If you'd like any, or all just say. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: ossonflags Date: 06 Jul 06 - 09:49 AM And many many many thanks from me I have been searching for this for years and again do you have an idea of the tune? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: Charley Noble Date: 05 Jul 06 - 05:57 PM Thanks from me as well. The lyrics you posted do seem to ring true; they've still got some life in them after all these years. Please come back and post some more songs if you have them. And give us a name to call you! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: GUEST,sailoron Date: 05 Jul 06 - 11:46 AM Thank you "Guest" I'm very glad to have got a complete set of words at last. But can you, or anyone, indicate the tune? |
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE BARON LINE SONG From: GUEST Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:22 PM My father Arnis Boika sailed on the Baron Glennconner in the late 50's. I saw some posts here requesting this song which I found on another web page. Hope its the right one, enjoy! The Baron Line Song. Oh, you may have sailed on Coasters, And you may have been on Tramps, You may have sailed on Trawlers, On the great Newfoundland Banks, You may have been on Tankers, And had a terrible time, But you've never yet, come through the 'Mill', Till you've sailed the Baron Line. (Chorus)….Roll along you hungry b######s roll along. If you think you're going home, your"e b####y wrong, British Tankers may be fine, But give me the Baron Line, Roll along you hungry b######s roll along. The First Mate was an ex convict, And was 'spying' for a ship, He saw the "Baron Murray" Lying beside an old 'Coal Tip', He asked the Skipper for a job, Who said, "You'll do damn fine, For we've plenty of room for bums and stiffs, In the good old Baron Line". (Chorus)….Roll along you hungry b######s roll along, To the turning of your screw, we'll sing this song, "Blue Star Fliers" may be fine, But give me the Baron Line, Roll along you hungry b######s roll along. The Skipper came from Tokyo, the Third Mate from Tyree, The crew came down from Glasgow, And the Greasers from Dundee, Stewards off the Hong Kong Coast, Apprentices from the Tyne, Oh, you've never seen such a ###### up lot, Till you've sailed the Baron Line. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: Sailor Ron Date: 05 Aug 05 - 11:31 AM Further to my request for the tune to the Baron :ine song [no replies yet] I've another request, does any one out there have the words to "My father was afireman on the Elder Dempster Line". I heard about this song back in the 70s when I was with Clan Line but never managed to hear it. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: ossonflags Date: 03 Jun 05 - 10:44 AM that would be great if you could do that Sailor Ron!!! |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: Sailor Ron Date: 03 Jun 05 - 08:36 AM Going back to the origin of this thread can anyone give an indication what the tune used in the Baron Line song was? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: GUEST,Steve Catton Date: 28 May 05 - 01:30 AM Thanks a lot Sailor Ron & Jake - that was a lot of feedback very quickly, and has made my day!! I'll be back for more! Cheers, Steve. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: Charley Noble Date: 27 May 05 - 05:38 PM This is great! Thanks, Sailor Ron. And thanks, Snuffy, for the additional note on "Firing the Mauritania." Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: Anglogeezer Date: 27 May 05 - 03:50 PM What an interesting thread this is turning out to be!! Here's a fragment of one that I recall. Just an old Clan Line steamer, That has seen better days And her engines were a wonder to behold. But when the angels above, Give her a shove. She'll get us to the UK on time. I was on the "Clan MacGowan" 1967 when I heard that. I don't believe there was any more to it. It stood alone, sung with great wads of homesick sailorly emotion!! regards Jake |
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Subject: Lyr Add: LEAVING BOMBAY From: Sailor Ron Date: 27 May 05 - 10:41 AM AS REQESRES LAN LINE/SCOTTISH TANKERS ETC SONGS There's a Clan Boat just leaving Bombay Bound for old Blighty's shore Heavily laden with bum engineers Bound for the land they adore She's down by the head, listing to port She's making eight knots with the tide But you'll get no enjoyment in the Clan Line employment So cheer up mi lads bless 'em all Bless 'em all! Bless 'em all The tindle, the casab and all Bless all the sparlies, they're all round the twist Bless the chief stewards, and their limp wrists If the engineers can get us home The kalla pani no more will I roam 'Cause you'll get no promotion this side of the ocean So come on mi lads bless 'em all. There stands the Old Man, he's counting the days Until they'll let him retire There stands the Chief, he's gnashing his teeth 'Cause the coal that he bought just won't fire But there's many a 'prentice just starting his time There's many a fool just begun - His four years of slav'ry here with the Scots Navy On the Birkenhead Hoogali run Bless 'em all, bless 'em all The Engineers Two, Three & Four Bless the kalasi & the jhemadar Bless the secuni & the pani whaller The Burra Sahib says "when we dock You won't find me back with this lot!" But next trip you'll find he's back with Clan Line So cheer up mi lads bless 'em all! ........................................................ Goodbye Scottish Tankers, goodbye Clan Line too Ever since I joined you I've been mucked around by you Your gennies are a failure your engines are a farce And as for the Union Castle you can stick it up your arse! .......................................................... Packed my bag, packed my grip I'm not coming back next trip Bye bye Clan Line No more scrubbing decks with soap, no more rolling 'round Good Hope Bye bye Clan Line No more 'stations' ere the day is dawning No more 'stand byes' on a rainy morning Good bye Second, goodbye Chief on the quay stands my relief Clan line bye bye. [etc,etc,etc] ........................................................ Pink hulls on the ocean, pink hulls on the sea A Castle boat steward he fancies me! ........................................................ If folk out there would like I'll put down my whole M.N. "collection". Translation of Hindi words in "..leaving Bombay" on request |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: GUEST,Steve Catton Date: 26 May 05 - 10:30 PM Dear King Line Captain, Seeing all this chat about King Line, Clan Line, Scottish Tankers and Hector Whaling started me off on a lot of memory chasing - I sailed in all those outfits in my B&C days in the 60's and 70's!! It would be nice to see the words of the Clan Line & Scottish Tanker songs you have mentioned. Cheers, Steve. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: Snuffy Date: 26 May 05 - 09:01 AM Firing the Mauretania is yet another track on Hughie Jone's Seascape CD. In the sleeve notes Hughie says Redd introduced the song into trad circles, but Martin Hugill told me that Redd actually wrote it himself. I've heard at least three different versions/tunes for the chorus of this here in England, so folk-processing is alive and well. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: Charley Noble Date: 26 May 05 - 08:53 AM Another fine commercial steamship song you may be interested in is "Firing the Mauritania" which has been recently revived on the 2002 CD TIME ASHORE IS OVER by Richard Adrianowicz. Stephen Canright actually leds the song. It was originally collected by Redd Sulllivan of the Thameside 4 who was a fireman himself. Here's a link to Handspikes Music's website for lyrics and a MP3 sample: Click here! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: The Admiral Date: 26 May 05 - 08:29 AM Sailor Ron! I'm astonished to see that a Houlder Lines ship, the 'Royston Grange' is listed amongst your Shaw Swivel songs. I sailed and had some 'fun' times on her sister, the 'Hardwicke Grange', running down and up the east South American coast, culminating at Buenos Aires. I presume that the song is about the 'Royston's' sad demise? I did once visit the memorial to most of her crew in a graveyard in Montevedeo. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: Snuffy Date: 25 May 05 - 07:11 PM Thanks Ron. As I said further up the thread, you can hear Hughie Jones (formerly of the Spinners) singing both Blood on the Ice and Shaw Savill's Buccaneers on his Seascape CD on Fellside FECD147. But I don't hink Hughie uses Slane as the tune |
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Subject: Lyr Add: BLOOD ON THE ICE From: Sailor Ron Date: 25 May 05 - 11:29 AM Charley as requested, here's another from my collection. Tune is the Irish hymn tune Slade [Be thou my vision] O our business is bloody the truth for to tell We're naught but a slaughter house out on the swell There's no romance as in times long gone by It's fire the harpoon & another whale dies. Then it's tow it alongside & get him on board And the flensers get working & the blood from him pours With the aid of a winch his blubber is torn As we strip him right down, right down to the bone. Here on the Balaena we are stuck for eight months It's, work, work, and more work, then collapse in your bunks Though our business is bloody when all has been said We have our families at home to keep fed O the blood of the whale & the white of the ice Are there on the funnels as our fleets devise We are cruising along in the snow hail & sleet South of South Georgia in Hectors Whale fleet Title Blood on the Ice I collected this in a v. fragmentary form whilst I was on the M.T. Hector Hawk. I "filled in the gaps". I believe that this could be the last song made up aboard a British Whaler. The Balaena was built in 1947 & sold to Japan in the mid 1960s |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: Charley Noble Date: 20 May 05 - 04:39 PM Sailor Ron- Heave us another song! And if you're interested in some of the sea songs in my collection that I'm currently singing: Click here! Most of these songs of my personal website have a MP3 sample of the first verse and chorus so you should be able to get a good idea of how I sing them. I recommend as a starter "A Cowardly Act", the sad case of a cow sinking a Japanese trawler. And don't worry about posting lyrics that might offend the prudish. That's not a problem for most of us. Whether we actually sing a bawdy verse still depends largely on who we're singing it to. I sing the unvarnished version of "The Old She-Crab" for practically everyone. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 20 May 05 - 01:28 PM Don't censor the obscene verses. Mudcat accepts them. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: Sailor Ron Date: 20 May 05 - 11:15 AM Charley, Shaw Saville & Albio AKA Slow Starvation & Agony were actually a rather"up market" shipping company trading [mainly] from the UK to India & Australia, both passenger and cargo liners. They were the first company to have 'engines aft' passenger sgips the Southern Cross & the Northern Star. The firm was taken over by the P&O group and eventually 'died' being merged into the group. If you are interested other M.N. songs in my collection are :- Bye Bye Clan line, There's a Clan Boat just leaving Bombay, M.V. Hardship, The Royston Grange and Goodbye Scottish Tankers |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: Charley Noble Date: 19 May 05 - 08:23 PM Captain- Well, I'm right pleased to see this song posted. Fits right in with "Gosport Nancy" and other fine sailortown songs. So what kind of ship was the Shaw Saville? Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: breezy Date: 19 May 05 - 12:14 PM similar to MacAlfines Fusiliers |
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Subject: Lyr Add: SHAW SAVILLE'S BUCCANEERS From: GUEST,KINGLINECAPTAIN Date: 19 May 05 - 10:59 AM CHARLEY NOBLE, YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN THE FOLLOWING:- As down the quay at half past three Came Shaw Saville's drunken crew They'd spent their sub in a dockside pub Having a glass or two But they hear a cry, there's the shout nearby The words they dread to hear "Come on you bums sailing day has come" For Shaw Saville's Buccaneers Now Dan McCool from Liverpool He was bosun of the gang For him you'd work & dare not shirk Or else your head he'd bang But Geordie Dick gave him some lip And we all shook with fear, As Dan's mighty paw it broke the jaw Of that Shaw Saville Buccaneer Now Joe & Roy were London boys And when drunk got fighting mad They'd knock you down for half a crown I tell you they were bad But between these two, and I tell you true, There was something queer 'Cause they both wore skirts did those two flirts Of Shaw Saville's Buccaneers Now Slow Starvation & Agony Is the firm with which we sail And from Circular Quay to Tilbury We make all others quail So if you aren't rough & you aren't tough Then brother don't come near If you value your life don't sign, bu Christ! With Shaw Saville's Buccaneers A compilation of 2 versions I obtained, some of which was highly obscene |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: Charley Noble Date: 10 May 05 - 09:37 PM Captain- Thanks for posting the above verse. These kind of songs are fast disappearing and there are many of us here at Mudcat that would appreciate seeing the lyrics, and hopefully reviving them as songs. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: ADD Fragment: King Line Captain From: GUEST,kinglinecaptain Date: 10 May 05 - 11:42 AM Q, I'm sorry I didn't reply to your requst for the words sooner, but my Computor died[Ahh!] and has only now been reserected.
tune Camptown Races O the King Line Captain sings this song Balls up! Balls up! The bloody engine has gone wrong So get those black balls up. Broken down again, broken down once more If the 'pig iron polishers can't get it right soon we'll be ashore. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: Snuffy Date: 06 Oct 04 - 05:09 PM Blood on the Ice and Shaw Saville's Buccaneers are both on Hughie Jone's Seascape CD on Fellside FECD147 |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 06 Oct 04 - 02:54 PM Kingline Captain, it would be wonderful to have these songs posted here. I am sure they would interest many of us. Do you know the tunes as well? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: GUEST,KINGLINECAPTAIN Date: 06 Oct 04 - 12:04 PM I remember hearing the baron line song in the late 60's when I worked for ten years in the M.N. [Clan Line etc.]. During my time I collected a dozen or so songs, titles include "Clan Boat Leaving Bombay," "Bye-Bye Clan Line", "Goodbye Scottish Tankers," "Blood on the Ice" (This is about Hector Whaling.), & "Shaw Saville's Buccaneers." If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to type them up. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: ossonflags Date: 12 Aug 04 - 06:07 AM Many thanks Joe for refresh and a special thanks to strupeg for pasting that bit of valuable information from Andy. I sailed in the "Baron Glenconner" in 1965, signed on for two years which in those days meant two years. Any way we broke down on the way to Italy and managed to limp home and was paid of after only five weeks.This was with great rejoicing by the crew!As you describe conditions were a bit basic and yes,I do remember the cockroaches!! Not for nothing was the firm known as "Hungry Hogarths" It would be great if any one else out there has any more anecdotes or the complete version of the song.And yes I will try the "Ships" you mentioned |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Work for the Baron Line From: Joe Offer Date: 11 Aug 04 - 09:09 PM I think this deserves another "refresh." -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Baron line From: Strupag Date: 28 Dec 03 - 11:11 AM Hi Ossonflags, I was looking at this thread and then surfed off to one of the links that Jim posted. I then mistakenly posted to and older thread - Oh Hell it's that time of year. I'm going to give up drinking until next year! Any I've cut and pasted what I posted "Hi Roymuir, In the 60's I did a trip as Radio Oficer on the Baron Belhaven and I remember the song being sung often but I can't remember the words. Here's the chorus "Ye might have been on sailing ships or ye might have been on tramps, Or ye might have been on Whalers off the great Newfoundland Banks, Ye might have been on passengers having a hell of a time. But you've never been through the mill boys, untill you've sailed with Barron Line" The trip was great but the conditions were awful. We flew out from Prestwick and went to St John NB to join the ship. We then sailed up St Lawrence and went to Sept Isle, Montreal and Quebec. After that we went right down the US eastern seaboard stopping at ports all the way down. After that it was through the Panama canal and on to New Zealand. We discharged our cargo there all round North and South Islands. We then went over to Newcastle, NSW and took a cargo out to Neumea, New Caledonia. We then went back to a wee place in Queenland called Innisfail and took on a cargo of sugar. We went home to Scotland with that stopping off at Maritius, Cape Town and Dakar on the way. When I got home, I wrote a song about the Baron Line that I never quite finished. Chorus: - "Thought this life would do me fine 'till I joined old Baron Line, Never thought I'd tire of sailing all my days, But a man needs to be fed so I'll find another trade, I could earn a better living many ways" In real life I actually stayed on at sea for another 5/6 years but I never went back with Baron Line. The company was taken over by Scottisn Ship Managment and conditions improved greatly. SSM then merged with Denholms and I think they still manage a few ships today. I still get the odd nightmare of being bitten by cockroaches while in my bunk. I apologise for wandering off the subject but this thread did send my memory back to that time. If your really keen in getting the words they an add in the UK publication "Ships" might get a response. Andy Mitchell" |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Baron line From: Jim Dixon Date: 27 Dec 03 - 02:42 PM This song was requested in two previous threads: Lyr Req: You may have been in sailing ships and Lyr Req: THE BARON LINE (above). We don't have complete lyrics there, but we do have some quotes and other information. In the future, if you want to try again, it would be best to find one of those threads and refresh it by adding a new message, rather than starting a new thread. |
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Subject: Lyr Req: Baron line From: ossonflags Date: 26 Dec 03 - 04:43 AM Does any one have the words to this song about that famouse tramp steamer company "Hogarths"? heard it years ago and the only bit I can remember is "Dont sail for the Baron line" |
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