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Lyr Req: Flood Garry / Flodgarry / Flodigarry

Hillheader 27 Oct 01 - 07:12 AM
George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca 27 Oct 01 - 08:05 AM
Hillheader 27 Oct 01 - 08:15 AM
George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca 27 Oct 01 - 10:37 AM
DMcG 27 Oct 01 - 11:17 AM
George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca 27 Oct 01 - 12:29 PM
weepiper 27 Oct 01 - 12:52 PM
Hillheader 27 Oct 01 - 01:03 PM
Learchild 27 Oct 01 - 01:54 PM
Hillheader 27 Oct 01 - 08:40 PM
GUEST,Boab 28 Oct 01 - 03:07 AM
DMcG 28 Oct 01 - 05:24 AM
Learchild 29 Oct 01 - 03:01 AM
GUEST,Boab 29 Oct 01 - 03:29 AM
John MacKenzie 29 Oct 01 - 01:07 PM
GUEST,gmac 17 Jan 10 - 07:57 PM
GUEST 06 Sep 11 - 08:10 AM
Jack Campin 06 Sep 11 - 09:08 AM
Megan L 07 Sep 11 - 04:13 AM
Keith A of Hertford 07 Sep 11 - 05:40 AM
Keith A of Hertford 07 Sep 11 - 08:24 AM
GUEST,DR M WIMSATT 02 Dec 17 - 02:09 AM
Tattie Bogle 02 Dec 17 - 07:37 PM
GUEST,Sol 03 Dec 17 - 06:29 AM
GUEST,G 03 Dec 17 - 07:18 AM
Gallus Moll 03 Dec 17 - 02:34 PM
GUEST,Allan Conn 03 Dec 17 - 02:46 PM
GUEST,Sol 03 Dec 17 - 08:07 PM
Nigel Parsons 04 Dec 17 - 12:48 PM
GUEST, Julia L 06 Dec 17 - 10:10 PM
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Subject: Flood Garry
From: Hillheader
Date: 27 Oct 01 - 07:12 AM

Does anyone know the word of Flood Garry as sung by he Corries?

Why am I asking -- of course you do!!!

Thanks in advance

Davebhoy


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 27 Oct 01 - 08:05 AM

I've just done a quick look on the web and it doesn't show up either as Flood or Flod. It seems to be listed as being in one of the Corries Songbooks. Hopefully someone has the songbook.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry
From: Hillheader
Date: 27 Oct 01 - 08:15 AM

George

Thanks for trying. I've searched everywhere too. I only remember some of it. It starts:-

Green is Flood Garry
Blue is the sea
Bonnier the lassie
Tae guide oor prince free

Does it ring any bells with anyone

Davebhoy


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 27 Oct 01 - 10:37 AM

Might have to go to the library to see if you can locate the song book.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry
From: DMcG
Date: 27 Oct 01 - 11:17 AM

Green is Floodgary,
Blue is the sea.,
Born here the Lassie,,
To guide our Prince free.

Westward the wild wind, high runs the sea
Heave in the shaloch by Broad Beake Bay.
I have but one love, Lass trim the sail,
Brewing behind us loyalty as well.

Chorus:

Come ye young Lassie, hold fast the helm
The Long Ships are heaving by Lochslevek Bay
Come wi' me Lassie, turn not ye hame
Come where the south wind is kind tae its ane.

Chorus:

Pull hard my heroes, eagle to flee,
Down by Loch Hughe man, the tall ship runs free.
Flora was taken, down by Portree
Bound for the tower, and ready tae dee.

Chorus x 2:


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 27 Oct 01 - 12:29 PM

Great! Thanks


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry
From: weepiper
Date: 27 Oct 01 - 12:52 PM

I think that should be 'Flodigarry' - it's a place name, I think it's in Skye, that would make sense given the other place names in the song (Portree). Possibly should be 'Loch Ewe' as well? This seems to be on the same subject as 'The Skye Boat Song'.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry
From: Hillheader
Date: 27 Oct 01 - 01:03 PM

Thanks all of you - much appreciated.

I have had the tune in my head for days now and at last I can put the words to it.

Thanks again

Davebhoy


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Subject: Lyr Add: FLODGARRY (George Weir)
From: Learchild
Date: 27 Oct 01 - 01:54 PM

Hi
these are the correct lyrics as published by the Corries. Words by the great George Weir, who does deserve recognition for some wonderful songs. Yes, the place names are all from Skye and the western coast, spellings are strange in some cases but George would have done his research and would have had good reason for using them instead of those used by Ordnance Survey.

FLODGARRY
(George Weir)

chorus-
Green is Flodgarry
blue is the sea
born here the lassie
tae guide oor prince free

Westward the wild wind, high runs the sea
heaving the shallop by Broad Lea Eig bay
I have but one love, lass trim the sail
Ruin behind us, loyalty as well.

Come ye young Raasay, hold fast the helm
The long ship is heavin' by Loch Scavaig Bay
Come wi' me lassie turn ye not hame
Come where the west wind is kind tae its ain

Pull hard ma heroes the eagle tae flee
Doon by Loch Yuma the tall ship runs free
Flora was taken, doon by Portree
Bound for the tower and maybe tae dee


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry
From: Hillheader
Date: 27 Oct 01 - 08:40 PM

Learchild

Thank you. On seeing the words it scans perfectly with my memory of the Corries singing it.

Well done that man!!

Thanks again

Davebhoy


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 28 Oct 01 - 03:07 AM

Somebody put me straight if I'm wrong---there's a line of song [Corries, Ronnie Browne]tumbling roond in my head---"drowned in Garry's bloody pool". I have a vague memory of it being a reference to the fate suffered by many of the government troops in the conclusion of the battle at Killiecrankie. I have the impression --I may be badly informed---that the stream running through the glen there is the "Garry". Anybody with some definite knowledge?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry
From: DMcG
Date: 28 Oct 01 - 05:24 AM

Thanks, Learchild, for your more researched version. My version was what comes from learning stuff from people who knew the Corries version rather than directly - that the folk process for you ! *G*


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Subject: Lyr Add: WEEP YE WEEL BY ATHOLL (George Weir)
From: Learchild
Date: 29 Oct 01 - 03:01 AM

Hi there Anyone know why my nicely typed verses came out as one long sentence!**

Guest Boad - I think your quoting from another George Weir song -Weep ye Weel by Atholl, in my opinion its the best of the Bonnie Dundee songs.

Oh weep ye weel, my dear by Atholl

verse1
Weep ye for oor finest jewel,
Weep ye for oor John wha battled,
By the Garrys deepest pool
By the heights o' Killiecrankie
By the tears o' morning dew
Lay the broadswords o'Killarnie
wi' the tartan and the blue.

verse2
Lang we lay amongst the heather,
Gently sped the mist away.
Panting like the hounds o' summer
Waiting for the deer tae slay.
By the drums o' brave Dumbarton,
Rose the eagle wild and free
By the pibroch o' Dundonald,
Rose the bonnets o' Dundee

verse3
Like a torrent doon the mountain,
Swwept the avalanche of steel
Rose the wild cry o' Macdonald
Flashed the claymore o' Locheil
By the red leaves o' the summer
Whirling by the Garrys pool
Came the whirlwind o' the heather
Roaring like the flood at Yule

verse4
Down the pass the leaves are swirling
doon the glen noo in the gloom
where the red coats noo are burling
in the Garry's bloody pool

Last verse is short and sung slowly as a lament. Dundee was shot in the chest at the Braes of Atholl and died not seeing his army defeat the red coats. It was all very valiant but futile. He is buried in the grounds of Blair Atholl Castle. The pass and the river Garry are very beautiful and will be a blaze of colour now. Ronnie Brown's son has a Corries web site with many of their lyrics, just try a search on 'Corries'.

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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 29 Oct 01 - 03:29 AM

Ta muchly, Learchild!!!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 29 Oct 01 - 01:07 PM

Yes Flodigarry is on Skye on the north west side, a lovely place with a nice hotel of that name, a bit too expensive for YT though. Garry is the name of at least one river in Scotland, hence Invergarry, like Inverness is on the river Ness.

Jock


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry /Flodgarry (from The Corries)
From: GUEST,gmac
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 07:57 PM

Strange that the song states that Flora was born in Floodgary (Flodigarry?) when she was born in South Uist and, died near Floodgary (Skye). i.e. "Born here the lassie ....."
Anybody care to shed light on this apparent faux pas?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry? /Flodgarry (from The Corries
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 08:10 AM

FLODGARRY
George Weir

Chorus:
Green is Flodgarry,
Blue is the sea,
Born here the lassie
tae guide oor Prince free

Westward the wild wind, high runs the sea,
Heaving the shallop by Broad Lea Eig Bay.
I have but one love; lass, trim the sail,
Ruin behind us, Loyalty as well.

Green is Flodgarry,
Blue is the sea,
Born here the lassie
tae guide oor Prince free

Come ye young Raasay, hold fast the helm,
The Long Ship is heavin' by Loch Scavaig Bay,
Come wi' me lassie turn ye not hame,
Come where the west wind is kind tae its ane.

Green is Flodgarry,
Blue is the sea,
Born here the lassie
tae guide oor Prince free

Pull hard my heroes the eagle tae flee,
Doon by Loch Yuma the Tall Ship runs free,
Flora was taken doon by Portree,
Bound for the tower and maybe tae dee.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry? /Flodgarry (from The Corries
From: Jack Campin
Date: 06 Sep 11 - 09:08 AM

It's Flodigarry with an I.

Where the heck is "Loch Yuma" supposed to be? Sounds like a Mexican placename.

I would guess that somebody is recycling information from a dodgy lyrics site.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry? /Flodgarry (from The Corries
From: Megan L
Date: 07 Sep 11 - 04:13 AM

It is more likely to be an anglisised mishearing of one of the many lochs and lochans on the island. There are several possibilities but the most likely, bieng a sea loch and close to the open water is Loch nan Uamh


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry? /Flodgarry (from The Corries
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 07 Sep 11 - 05:40 AM

In 1750 Flora and her fiance Allan MacDonald of Kingsburgh were married and lived in Flodigarry.

More about her story here, with places of interest.
http://www.flodigarry.co.uk/flora_history.asp


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry? /Flodgarry (from The Corries
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 07 Sep 11 - 08:24 AM

I meant to add, nice pics of her cottage at Flodigarry.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry / Flodgarry / Flodigarry
From: GUEST,DR M WIMSATT
Date: 02 Dec 17 - 02:09 AM

Loch nan Uamh, the Loch of the Caves, is misconstrued as "Loch Yuma." In other words, Megan L is corect.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry / Flodgarry / Flodigarry
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 02 Dec 17 - 07:37 PM

In response to Jack C from 2011 (!) the lyrics in the Corries' Songbook do say "Loch Yuma" - which is actualy in Arizona, not Mexico! There are unfortunately other mis-transcriptions in the book, so I wouldn't regard it as definitive.
Loch nan Uamh makes perfect sense however: there was a Jacobite naval skirmish there in 1746 (see Wikipedia) and geographically it fits the story, as Megan and Dr Wimsatt have indicated.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry / Flodgarry / Flodigarry
From: GUEST,Sol
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 06:29 AM

To the best of my knowledge, Flora was born in South Uist. I've been to the museum and seen the ruins of the cottage. I think she died in Flodigarry. Her grave is certain there.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry / Flodgarry / Flodigarry
From: GUEST,G
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 07:18 AM

A beautiful song when sung in harmony--first heard sung by two ladies from Nova Scotia? Then on the Tobar An Duachlas site by a family from The Mull Of Kintyre.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry / Flodgarry / Flodigarry
From: Gallus Moll
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 02:34 PM

I vaguely remember reading that Flora McDonald and her husband crossed to live in America? Tho even if that is true no reason why they did not return to live / die in Scotland - - -


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry / Flodgarry / Flodigarry
From: GUEST,Allan Conn
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 02:46 PM

They did go to America but the family were on the loyalist side during the American Revolution so she returned to Scotland when the revolutionaries won.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry / Flodgarry / Flodigarry
From: GUEST,Sol
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 08:07 PM

Correct. Her husband fought for the loyalists in the American War of Independence. He was captured and his freedom (and I think one of her son's) was bought later. They moved to a fort near Windsor in Nova Scotia. Flora was one of only two women at the fort. The book I read said that she did not like the time she spent there. They moved back to Flodigarry in Skye where she spent the rest of her life.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry / Flodgarry / Flodigarry
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 04 Dec 17 - 12:48 PM

Thank you guests Allan Conn & Sol.
There are some things learnt here that are more poetic than even the songs.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Flood Garry / Flodgarry / Flodigarry
From: GUEST, Julia L
Date: 06 Dec 17 - 10:10 PM

She actually lived in North Carolina for awhile. We saw the site of her house last year when we were there near Mount Gilead.
J


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