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BS: Mudcat Crafters

DonMeixner 31 Oct 01 - 11:58 PM
GUEST,.gargoyle 01 Nov 01 - 12:00 AM
DonMeixner 01 Nov 01 - 12:37 AM
Nancy King 01 Nov 01 - 12:59 AM
Chris Amos 01 Nov 01 - 01:45 AM
Liz the Squeak 01 Nov 01 - 01:48 AM
Llanfair 01 Nov 01 - 04:30 AM
John Hardly 01 Nov 01 - 07:01 AM
DonMeixner 01 Nov 01 - 07:10 AM
Bill D 01 Nov 01 - 07:59 AM
John Hardly 01 Nov 01 - 08:08 AM
Donuel 01 Nov 01 - 08:10 AM
Donuel 01 Nov 01 - 09:17 AM
Kim C 01 Nov 01 - 09:46 AM
katlaughing 01 Nov 01 - 09:46 AM
GUEST,Peter 01 Nov 01 - 09:51 AM
CamiSu 01 Nov 01 - 09:54 AM
katlaughing 01 Nov 01 - 10:14 AM
Deckman 01 Nov 01 - 04:26 PM
Bill D 01 Nov 01 - 06:18 PM
Clinton Hammond 01 Nov 01 - 06:53 PM
katlaughing 01 Nov 01 - 07:33 PM
GUEST 01 Nov 01 - 07:38 PM
DonMeixner 02 Nov 01 - 12:07 AM
Liz the Squeak 02 Nov 01 - 01:19 AM
mouldy 02 Nov 01 - 01:46 AM
Liz the Squeak 02 Nov 01 - 01:51 AM
GUEST,Kim C no cookie 02 Nov 01 - 10:02 AM
Bill D 02 Nov 01 - 11:29 AM
Mrs.Duck 02 Nov 01 - 11:49 AM
Bill D 02 Nov 01 - 12:06 PM
Matthew Edwards 03 Nov 01 - 12:13 PM
Ferrara 05 Nov 01 - 03:05 PM
DonMeixner 05 Nov 01 - 11:32 PM
GUEST,Kim C no cookie 06 Nov 01 - 09:47 AM
katlaughing 07 Nov 01 - 08:13 PM
Clinton Hammond 07 Nov 01 - 09:03 PM
Bill D 07 Nov 01 - 09:27 PM
Homeless 10 Nov 01 - 09:33 PM
katlaughing 04 Jan 02 - 07:09 PM
Hawker 04 Jan 02 - 07:54 PM
Homeless 04 Jan 02 - 08:09 PM
wysiwyg 04 Jan 02 - 09:20 PM
katlaughing 04 Jan 02 - 10:53 PM
Sorcha 05 Jan 02 - 12:03 PM
katlaughing 05 Jan 02 - 01:03 PM
Homeless 05 Jan 02 - 01:20 PM
Sorcha 05 Jan 02 - 01:52 PM
Murray MacLeod 05 Jan 02 - 04:01 PM
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Subject: Mudcat Crafters
From: DonMeixner
Date: 31 Oct 01 - 11:58 PM

I just saw the pictures of Bill's craft fair set up in the Mudcat Chat thread. I saw a nice set up but its very hard to see the work. I'd like some close ups Bill. I'm with you Bill on the countdown to sanity. Christmas comes and I get a few weeks rest from the shop.

As many of you know I am a silversmith and a large amount of my time is preparing for craft fairs. How many of us are crafetrs? And would it be possible to do an on-line craft fair? Scanners could be used to do the displays. Casual sales or barters for goods would be cool with me. And a 10% kick back to the Cat maybe.

Any thoughts?

Don


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 12:00 AM

my, My, MY, isn't this a gay little group?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: DonMeixner
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 12:37 AM

You are right Gargoyle. What was I thinking? An opertunity for some first class craft artists to exchange wares among a gang that would appreciate talent, skill and artistry. And maybe throw some additional and unsolicited cash at Max to keep this forum up and running.

How dumb must I be?

Never mind Bill, I'll look for some spalted maple bowl and vase turnings at Wal-mart.

Never mind Spaw, I'll turn that Gold and Silver bracelet combination ito cash and we can skip negotiations for a new walnut and spruce Lap dulcimer.

Dopey me, another knaff idea from Up State New York.

Don "Still cheerful but not gay" Meixner


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Nancy King
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 12:59 AM

I'm not sure what Gargoyle's problem is, but I for one think this is a great idea. I am fortunate enough to see Bill's work -- not to mention Rita's! -- fairly frequently, and bought a nice piece at the Getaway. I would love to be able to see and buy crafts from other Mudcatters as well. Bring 'em on!

Cheers, Nancy


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Chris Amos
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 01:45 AM

Hi,

I think this is a great idea. Although I am not a craftsperson my self I am married to a potter and know how difficult it is to make a living through your craft. The long hours of work, the frequent dissapointments when the kiln is opened, hours stood behind stalls at craft fairs etc.. If Gargoyle thinks crafts are only done by the idle rich he should think again. Bog off gargoyle.

So would any one mind if I showed aome of Angela's work if this project gets off the ground?, by the way we are in the UK I seem to remember Gargoyle has poored cold water over my contributions before because of this.

Regards

Chris


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 01:48 AM

It's really VERY hard to photograph silver jewellry to its best effect.... I think it's a great idea though, and am all for it.

I make ties and waistcoats although I work to commission rather than get enough for a stall, and sometimes even that is a close run thing.....

Still, a nice handpainted tie in exchange for a leather bracelet... I could do that.....

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Llanfair
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 04:30 AM

I'm in, if it happens. I make small items for the garden from driftwood, mobiles, windchimes and stuff. Soon to be making willow plant supports.
Cheers, Bron.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: John Hardly
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 07:01 AM

It's certainly a good idea, and I'd love to see what others here do (you can see some of my pots on the mudcat photos page). I also do art fairs for a living (23 years and counting). Unfortunately, I don't do any shipping so I won't be participating, but I do hope this works out well for those of you who participate!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: DonMeixner
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 07:10 AM

I know what Liz is talking of. Silver jewelry, any jewelry is tought to photograph.

John, I like the pots I saw in the photo pages. I also have a pottery fascination, I have a family full of them.

I think we need to beat this up for a day or two. Maybe the Joe Clones have some ideas about how to impliment this. Maybe it can be done woth Blue Clickies?

Glad to see I'm not the only Loon in the lake.

Don


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Bill D
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 07:59 AM

*grin*, Don...my consignments to WalMart have been less successful than I'd hoped...(not thick enough plastic coatings on the burl, I suspect...).

I have LOTS of close up pictures, but most are just records of past glory...you want those, or just what is current? I could easily post some in the Photoloft site.

I do need to finally get a web page going, but your idea has a certain merit as an extra Mudcat fundraiser, too. I have had a couple little things in the auction, as have several others...what would we do differently?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: John Hardly
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 08:08 AM

Don,
Don't you already have lots of slides/photos for entering shows? There's any number of businesses that can scan those into whatever kind of file you need to post here. The guy who does my slides offers this as a service but so does my local print shop.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 08:10 AM

As another loon in the lake, I do only 3 consignments a year virtually at cost. I am already done for the year so this link is not a promotion but just for fun.
click


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 09:17 AM

click After all the work on the Green Celtic violin it went for $100 on ebay. Green violins are apparently not in great demand *G*


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Kim C
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 09:46 AM

Well hells bells, where was I when that green violin went up for auction? Hmmmmm? I don't think I could have paid much more than that BUT if I could have placed a bid, it might have driven the price higher. ;-)

I play with beads & such. I have an open house-type thing every year (it's happening this Saturday) where I put out all my goods and serve refreshments and the like. It usually does pretty well, but I'm not sure about this year. People don't seem to be in a big buying mood.

Anyway, my things are such that they can be placed on the scanner and just scanned! I've done it before. I will probably have some things left over from this weekend so I'd be game for joining in.

I also make soaps, and this year have added bath salts to my list of goodies.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 09:46 AM

Don, you know I love your jewellry and it does scan in pretty well.

I haven't made much gemstone, beaded jewellry in the past year, but one Catter who saw a piccie over a year ago, has kindly ordered a piece for his wife for Christmas.

As a JoeClone, I guess I could manage a specific thread, for links etc., whatever you all have in mind.

Alice might want to offer some of her stuff, too and I know we have others who are mighty crafty.

Oh, and maybe Gargoyle could bottle up some home brew and sell it.:-)

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: GUEST,Peter
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 09:51 AM

Kat,

Didn't you start a thread, with a similar idea a good while back?

Can't find it though...

Peter


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: CamiSu
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 09:54 AM

$100?!! Ouch! You couldn't have a minimum bid? I once had a tapestry I had sweat blood over go for barely cost of materials years ago. Never again.

I do jewellry as well, Gold, silver, copper and (often really ordinary river) stones. My inventrory is low and I'm going into the Christmas season... better get busy. And how does one post photos to the 'Cat anyway? This sounds like fun to me. Gargoyle doesn't have to come.

CamiSu


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 10:14 AM

Good memory, Peter, thanks. Yes, I had, but it took Homeless to remind me in a PM, because I'd forgotten. Here it is: Another Crafters thread with some ideas that might answer some of the questions in this one.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Deckman
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 04:26 PM

Interesting idea ...! I'm just getting back into my beautiful lathe turned bowls. When snow hits us here in the Pacific Northwest, it's damned hard tp build decks. CHEERS, Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Bill D
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 06:18 PM

he sings, he turns wood!..a sterling fellow, indeed!

(got any pictures??)


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 06:53 PM

my craftwork can be seen in the Blacksmith section of dragonshearth.com... unfortunatly the site itself is still non functional as far as ordering and such... but the pics are there...

:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 07:33 PM

If we wanted to get really serious, we could open a Mudcat store on eBay, BUT ya gotta have volume or make they know they are getting a ONE OF! No reason Camsco and Folk Legacy couldn't be part of it, which might help them out, too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 07:38 PM

yet another mudcat idea that won't come to fruition...

a shame


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: DonMeixner
Date: 02 Nov 01 - 12:07 AM

Guest, my intial thought is this,

"Bite Me."

My idea was to market our individual crafts among ourselves, maybe supply Max with some funding. As simple as Me sending photos to anyone interested or as grand as all of us sending scans of crafts and prices to a central location. Anyway you look at it it works on that level, I sell a bracelet or earrings to Kat. John sells me a Raku charger. Max gets some funding.

On second thought,

"Bite me."

Don


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 02 Nov 01 - 01:19 AM

Guest is in for some big meals this weekend then...

BITE ME AS WELL you old pessimistic spoilsport!

Could we call it the Mudcat Market maybe?? If the auction works online, then surely a market can....

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: mouldy
Date: 02 Nov 01 - 01:46 AM

Here am I, up before dawn to have time to finish off some more doughcraft for the fair in Tadcaster tomorrow. I am just thankful that I don't need to make a living doing what I do: last weekend I was one of the fortunate few who DID sell something during the 8 hours we sat and got bored - just enough to cover the stall rent of £20! Yesterday I did a small stall for the local playgroup and cleared £60 in 2 hours.

I make all sorts of things, but LTS and Tig will vouch for my Green Men!

Andrea (Mouldy Old Dough)


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 02 Nov 01 - 01:51 AM

And women!! And yes, I know I owe you... am trying to find the right design, because the original one I did for you got... appropriated by someone.....

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: GUEST,Kim C no cookie
Date: 02 Nov 01 - 10:02 AM

Well I think it would be fun to try, especially with the holidays coming on. All of my jewelry is girly stuff, but I have some nice soaps in Bay Rum and Spicy Lime - very nice for the gentlemens. :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Bill D
Date: 02 Nov 01 - 11:29 AM

I went ahead and uploaded an assorted batch of turned wood pictures in response to a couple of requests. I am thinking about how to set aside an item now & then for Mudcat auction or a crafts venue....who knows, we might surprise some 'guest' yet!

here is the address Turned wood

(a few of these things are current..some are long gone, I tried to pick decent photos)


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 02 Nov 01 - 11:49 AM

Some of Bill Sables leatherwork is included under his member photo on Mudcat Resources so check it out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Bill D
Date: 02 Nov 01 - 12:06 PM

Bill Sables does fine work! I like those pictures...and..if Rick Fielding ever gets tired of playing the guitar, HE could make a living doing leather. The case his little Martin came to the Getaway in was wonderful!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Matthew Edwards
Date: 03 Nov 01 - 12:13 PM

Refresh, Some nice ideas being exchanged here, and it would be nice to develop this into some sort of Mudcat Market. I'm not a craftperson myself but I do appreciate good craftwork, and some of the examples shown on the links look very good indeed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Ferrara
Date: 05 Nov 01 - 03:05 PM

A Mudcat Market is a very appealing idea. I'd like to see it take shape. This year we had a Marketplace at the FSGW Getaway and I'm hearing that there will be a lot more crafts there next year.

Here's my 2cents worth which may actually be worth considerably less....

1. I don't expect it (the Mudcat Market) to be a source of lots of sales, because musicians are interested in music first and foremost and will read all the music threads before they even look at the crafts market for the most part. Furthermore, many serious musicians, like serious crafters, are always broke.... It just seems to work that way.... Barter, now, I think that's very likely to happen.

2. I'd like to see something simple and maintainable. For example, a perma thread with links to photos and info about Mudcatters' crafts, including info if any of it is for sale.

3. For those who already have web sites, we should have a link to their site.

4. For those who don't, if you can get a digital or scanned pic of your work, you can set it up in one of the free album displays such as PictureTrail or PhotoPoint and the MM can link to it.

5. Whatever we do, we need a maven (katlaughing has volunteered) to help keep track. And we need to make sure that IT DOESN'T Make Any More Work for Max.

6. If we specifically set up that a percentage goes to Mudcat, I'd like to see a simple, foolproof way to have that happen. How is it done with the auction? If it's done by having the donor send Max a check, we can do that anyway, on a voluntary basis, no need for any mechanism or formal structure....

Or, have the BUYER send two checks, one to the crafter for x% of the price, the other, Mudcat's percentage. This way the buyer gets a write-off, which would be no use to the crafter anyway since it would have to offset an equal amount of income if you follow me....

Hope this at least stirs up some more discussion....

Rita


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: DonMeixner
Date: 05 Nov 01 - 11:32 PM

This is certainly what I had hoped it might become, maybe better than I hoped.

As far as book keeping is concerned, simplist is bestest. I think the honor system may be best. If I sell a $100.00 dollar bracelet to Mudcatters or through the Market, I'd simply send the agreed upon spiff (10% ? ) back to Max.

Of course a bartered deal creats a problem but not insurmountable I'm sure. We have too much imagination amongst us to fail at this because of details.

I hope to have my scanner up and running soon. When I am I'll scan in a selection of my stuff. Everything from Kilt pins to 14K Gold bracelets.

Don Meixner


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: GUEST,Kim C no cookie
Date: 06 Nov 01 - 09:47 AM

Don, I need a new kilt pin. I have a cheapie one that came with a skirt, which I bought a long time ago, and it needs replacing. :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Nov 01 - 08:13 PM

Thanks, Ferrara, but I have to take my name off the list of volunteers. It has been brought to my attention that I've overextended myself and need to pull in my horns a bit to concentrate on other things. Sorry, folks, just a lot going on already.:-)

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 07 Nov 01 - 09:03 PM

BillD!

That is some seriously beautiful wood mate!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Nov 01 - 09:27 PM

*big smile*...why, thank you, sir. You obviously have taste and discernment...

..I wish I'd discovered how neat polishing wood can be when I was 40 years younger.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Homeless
Date: 10 Nov 01 - 09:33 PM

It looks like I'm a few days late, but here's a link to some of my photography.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 07:09 PM

Time to revisit this and see what we all can do to help the Mudcat, imo.

Anyone have any more thoughts to add or want to take the ball and run with it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Hawker
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 07:54 PM

Great idea! I can offer a few corn dollies ! Its gotta be worth a try - and Max has asked for a little financial help - a small percentage would be better than nothing - I'm game (that's GAME gargoyle NOT GAY!) !
Lucy


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Homeless
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 08:09 PM

I'll see what kind of site I can put together over the next few days. Starting tomorrow, because I'm getting ready to go run errands tonight. Anyone who wants in on the vendor side, PM me with your medium, contact info, URL, etc.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: wysiwyg
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 09:20 PM

If we could combine this with the possibly-annual Secret Santa program, so that Santa's did their purchasing via Mudcat-funding streams like this, and also if crafters could get in the habit of stocking the MudStore each fall for Mudcatters' Christmas shopping, it would be great. It would not need to be an auction-- straight sales from stock on hand.

We could run a Permathread called Now on Sale in the MudStore.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 10:53 PM

Homeless, maybe whatever you set up could be an adjunct thing, like Aine's Songbook and Alan's Tunebook, with crafters stocking throughout the year, as they were able. That way we wouldn't have to wait until just the Fall for the Santa thing, as Susan mentions. I like the idea of a Mudcat Store. Oh, and thanks for volunteering.:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Sorcha
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 12:03 PM

Homeless, that is some serious photography there! Wow! Several I like a LOT!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 01:03 PM

I am the proud owner of a signed Homeless photograph, the signature one of the differently coloured leaves which is on his first page. It is gorgeous!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Homeless
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 01:20 PM

Thanx Sorch. Hey, if you like them that much, pick out a few that you'd like to buy and hang on the wall *g*.

And as my part in the funds drive, any pictures I sell in the next week via the 'Cat, I'll give half the selling price to Mudcat.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Sorcha
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 01:52 PM

Homeless, I have un framed art behind furniture, in closets, etc. because there is NO room on my walls for more! I wish I had more wall space!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 04:01 PM

Max is already sitting on a veritable goldmine.I refer to the Mudcat software. There is no other discussion group on the net which is so user-friendly. (The software, I mean)

Try this site for a typical example of a commercial website with discussion groups which are an absolute nightmare to navigate round. And that site is typical of thousands of sites on the net. Heavy duty commercial sites, not shoestring enthusiast efforts.

If it is possible for the Mudcat software to be grafted onto sites like this in order to facilitate the dicussion groups, then Max is a potential millionaire. The only site I have ever visited which is anything like as friendly and easy to use is the MIMF Forum, and even that falls well short of Mudcat standards.

Murray


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Crafters
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 04:06 PM

I posted this before I saw the Mudcat Trouble thread. I will post it there too.

Murray


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