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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: GUEST Date: 06 Nov 01 - 06:09 PM Apparently the grammar nazis aren't a particularly sensitive lot here, kat and SharonA. I agree with what you both said a bizzillion percent. Yes, there are lazy folks among us. There are people who contribute whose first language isn't English. There are people with learning disabilities (and I know from working with kids with LD, these are common errors they make too). Are we here to communicate, or mock other poster's spelling and grammar errors? Hahahaha its so funny to have a laugh at another poster's expense, especially when it is about spelling. A real hoot.
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Bill D Date: 06 Nov 01 - 06:06 PM LH...memberships now available in The Apostrophe Protection Society I'd give a few to people I know, but I'm not sure they'd except it when there ego's are at stake. |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: GUEST,katlaughing Date: 06 Nov 01 - 05:53 PM InOBU has been very open about why one may find mistakes in his postings. It is because of a learning disability. I am sure he is not the only one, so I hope you most pendantic among us will cut them some slack, too, even with English as their first language. Yes, I give a damn about the language, too, so much so that I was fired by a high school English teacher for being too strict in grading her pupils' papers! I am pleased to say that when my writings reach an actual editor, very few changes are made and virtually no mistakes in spelling or grammar are found. I found out quickly that in a forum such as this, with instant reparte', it took up too much time and energy to get too worked up about it and, therefore, I do not hold myself to the same standards as when writing for a publisher. And, I dare say, most could care less.:-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Eric the Viking Date: 06 Nov 01 - 05:07 PM 'tis plainly obvious that neil younge wears rust coloured socks;'!?.. : ; "". |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: John MacKenzie Date: 06 Nov 01 - 04:56 PM Sorry Bat-G but spelling IS important, and punctuation IS important, but spelling AND punctuation, ARE important. BTW is this thread totally unique?? Jock |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Little Hawk Date: 06 Nov 01 - 04:48 PM Yeah. If they'd of had the foresight to build that danged bridge, y'know, across Lake Superior, them fellas from the Edmund Fitzgerald wouldn't of all got drowneded, eh? Cos they coulda took refuge on the bridge, y'know what I mean? Cross-thread creep. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Date: 06 Nov 01 - 04:47 PM What a bunch of lisping owls out there! |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: mousethief Date: 06 Nov 01 - 04:30 PM Whose is that trip-trappin' over my bridge? |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Chip2447 Date: 06 Nov 01 - 04:24 PM Like,I wanna axe a question ya know, so who's gonna answer it rightly? Huh? Like, Do this look real bad for the Merican language ya know, or izzit, like, ya know, just me, ya know? I keep wondr'in why I can't get published ya know. Like, it must be them editors fault, them whose can't read simple merican, Ya know? ACK...I'll go hide now. Chip2447 |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Little Hawk Date: 06 Nov 01 - 04:20 PM Our dogs used to do N-dashes across the lawn, but they're getting old and crotchety now. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Bat Goddess Date: 06 Nov 01 - 04:10 PM Spelling and punctuation IS important. Our language is being eroded not only by vocabulary loss, but by the improper use of signposts to clear communication (correct usage of words and punctuation) mostly by the uncaring as well as the totally ignorant. (Ignorance or apathy? To which someone replied, "I don't know and I don't care.") What about semi-colons? I constantly see them used inappropriately and then when a legitimate opportunity arises to use one, nope, it's not there. This stuff isn't that difficult to learn!!! (Of course, it helps if people read . . .) Other things that drive me nutzoid: writers not knowing the difference in usage between hyphens, N-dashes and M-dashes. (Oh, I'll even cut most people some slack about N-dashes, but not M-dashes!) Or an apostrophe and a single prime (or true quotation marks and the typewriter/computer double prime). Hey, precision in communication IS important! Bat Goddess who has a decidely curmudgeonly side, too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: kendall Date: 06 Nov 01 - 04:09 PM Even Abraham Lincoln had trouble with the difference between its and it's. I'm always surprised at the number of people who dont know the difference AMONG to, two and too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: wysiwyg Date: 06 Nov 01 - 03:56 PM Hoo'sier? Oh LH, I miss you, when are you coming baaaaack???? Send me an e-mail would you? I need to ask you something. Something good. ~S~ motormice@hotmail.com |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Dead Horse Date: 06 Nov 01 - 03:54 PM This thread is just to(or is it TWO)long. |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Jack the Sailor Date: 06 Nov 01 - 03:41 PM Hey Little Hawk!! Take off ya Whoser |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: John Routledge Date: 06 Nov 01 - 03:29 PM Why has no one mentioned the subjunctive after a doubt wish or supposition. We should be told. :0) GB |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: SharonA Date: 06 Nov 01 - 03:11 PM I just hope that we pedants aren't scaring away people like Skarpi, whose first language is not English, and who may feel nervous about posting some error because they think they'll be criticized. If someone who fits that description is reading this, let me try to put your mind at ease: The people we're frustrated with are the ones who grew up speaking and writing English as their native language AND WHO SHOULD KNOW BETTER!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Willa Date: 06 Nov 01 - 03:10 PM Pete Boom; irregardless - is that a neologism? Shouldn't it be 'one of those things that irk me regardless of who writes them'? (since it's 'those things' that are referred to). Let's face it, folks; life's too short to worry about 'piddly little details of language'. *BG* |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: wendall2 Date: 06 Nov 01 - 03:06 PM It's obvious none of yunz are from picksburgh! |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Little Hawk Date: 06 Nov 01 - 03:01 PM Joe - Well, THAT is a comfort to know! You are not anal-retentive, my friend, you are inspired. I may arrange to have you appointed as an advisory member to the board of the WSSBA. Amos - Man, you would love Cuba! The kind of child-like stupidity you bemoan in contemporary America is gloriously absent there. As for them "bleeding-heart commie pinko faggot dweebs"...they're nowhere to be found! Viva la revolucion! Oops. Thread creep. :-) - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Joe Offer Date: 06 Nov 01 - 02:47 PM Maybe this proves I'm anal-retentive or something, but this thread inspired me to search the Digital Tradition for every use of "who's" and "whose." There are many other mistakes in the Digital Tradition - but I could not find one single misuse of "who's" or "whose." -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Amos Date: 06 Nov 01 - 02:42 PM The TV mentality is definitely a large piece of our mental decline. Disney-oid versions of reality in sugar-coats also help the establishment of a child-like stupidity in the over-all average Amrican mind, and we've been escalating that process since the Fifties. The use of knee-jerk manipulation in media (both print and broadcast) which has borrowed the worst skills of the advertising world in order to "sell papers" has a large part in it. And, on top of all that, our educational system has been watered down by bleeding-heart commie pinko faggot dweebs so many times its a wonder anyone survives high-school with any brains left!! The days when high school graduates could read Latin and do calculus and recite the GNP of twenty major nations are sadly lost in our bread-and-circus history. Curmudgeonly yours, A. |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Little Hawk Date: 06 Nov 01 - 02:36 PM Amergin, you should know better than to ask an open-ended question like that...it might prompt a 6,000 word response. The possibilities and ramifications are almost endless as to why I might care about this issue. It is of vital concern to me, almost as vital as knowing what color of socks Neil Young put on this morning, for example. My guess is black. What do you think? Hmmm? Fortunato - Amen! I think TV is primarily to blame for the mental decline in America. Then again, it may be caffeinated drinks and junk food. Or Britney Spears. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Eric the Viking Date: 06 Nov 01 - 02:35 PM Actually not many people speak English. The dictionary and grammar were based around the conglomeration of localised dialects where Johnson collected and built his dictionaries for Oxford university. Mostly about the Shropshire area. That (Which) is why English is such a difficult language with such complex and not purely phonetic based spellings. Many derivations of the colloquial speech patterns have been translated into words spelt as they were said in the times of collection C1700's and so the endings are pronounced differently to the spelling as they reflect the original speech pattern. Like wot aye sayed 'tis the most troublesome of languages to be learned of. |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Amergin Date: 06 Nov 01 - 02:27 PM one question...why the hell do you care? it is of no concern to you... |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Little Hawk Date: 06 Nov 01 - 02:27 PM Uh-huh. Here are my reactions, folks... Allan C. - You know that high-pitched sound Curly Joe used to make when he was absolutely going mad with frustration? "Ngee-ngee-ngee-ngee!!!" Something like that... Trevor - You's oughta be board, eh? Trevor, the boredom is only beginning...hang on there. WYSIWYG - Dubya, of course. Who else? Lin in Kansas - Ah! A kindred spirit. Roger in Sheffield - I predict Lin is next. Lin - Well, there you are. Thanks for confirming that prediction. (Ha!) Pete Boom - What irks you? My objection to the heinous act...or the actual heinous act itself? Inquiring minds want to know. Amos - Hey, man...NOTHIN' KIN MESS UP MAH RYTHM!!! (best rapper imitation I can manage at the moment) Amos (again) - Getting nervy, eh?
You're enough! (Sheesh! Copy and paste, copy and paste...) Or alternately... Your enough! Whichever... SharonA - Good point. I'm glad to see this thread is getting the forum back into discussing serious creative issues in a rational and helpful manner. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Fortunato Date: 06 Nov 01 - 02:22 PM Little Hawk. I sympathize completely. At least you can't hear them saying who's instead of whose. I have to listen to the masses here in the US say BASICALLY in every damned sentence. There are others equally annoying. "You go girl" and "don't even go there", for example, make me want to smack them in the mouth. Micca recently reminded me we don't speak English over here. Well, most of us don't. There I feel better; thanks a lot. Fortunato |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: GUEST Date: 06 Nov 01 - 02:07 PM I dinna ken nought o'yer meanin' Laddie.
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: SharonA Date: 06 Nov 01 - 01:37 PM If you're stuck, think of the song title: "Whose Garden Was This?" It's not in the DigiTrad under "Who's", now is it? (It had better not be!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Amos Date: 06 Nov 01 - 01:30 PM That's dude as in, "'S up, dude?" BTW, LH:
Who's enough? Regards, A. |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Amos Date: 06 Nov 01 - 01:29 PM Geez, LH -- for such a spiritually elevated due, you're being awful hard on the symbols!! Don't you know that can mess up your rhythm? A |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: PeteBoom Date: 06 Nov 01 - 12:52 PM That is one of those things that irks me irregardless of who writes it. (roflmao!!!!! I crack myself up!) Pete |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Lin in Kansas Date: 06 Nov 01 - 12:49 PM Aghhhh. And apparently, they're rubbing off. Meant to say, "Others' lack of spelling and grammar ...." Didn't mean to point out my own!! Lin (blush) |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Roger in Sheffield Date: 06 Nov 01 - 12:48 PM Who's Next? |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Lin in Kansas Date: 06 Nov 01 - 12:46 PM Rots-a-ruck, Little Hawk-- Want to include "its" and "it's" while you're at it? We editor/proofreaders despaired long ago. What the heck, lack of spelling and grammar skills keeps me in groceries. Lin |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: wysiwyg Date: 06 Nov 01 - 12:43 PM Who put the who's in whose? Who's to blame for THAT? ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Trevor Date: 06 Nov 01 - 12:38 PM I's bored al'ready |
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Subject: RE: BS: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Allan C. Date: 06 Nov 01 - 12:35 PM So, I take it that this is something, up with which, you will not put? |
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Subject: STOP writing 'Who's'! Enough!!! From: Little Hawk Date: 06 Nov 01 - 12:32 PM I'm sick of it. There is no such possessive word as "who's", unless you have a person named "who" and the word is referring to something that person owns. You can also write "who's" if you mean "who is"...but that's not a possessive, it's a verb form. The possessive of "who" is "whose" all right? WHOSE. Got it? People used to know this a couple of generations ago. What is going on out there? It's enough to drive a pedant who's paying attention to all the piddly little details of whose language skills are correct and whose aren't absolutely nuts! So stop it. You know who you are and you have no further excuse now. ("G") And, Cletus, stop spreading rumours about us pedants! - LH |