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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Little Hawk Date: 14 Nov 01 - 01:09 PM "GIT!" (not to be confused with the modern British term "git" as in "stupid git") - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Michael in Swansea Date: 14 Nov 01 - 04:08 AM "The coffee would taste better if they dug the latrines down stream"
"Ain't no trees on the prairie son, just cactus" Mike |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Art Thieme Date: 13 Nov 01 - 11:57 PM Kim, John Colter went west with Lewis and Clark in 1804. He asked for and got permission to return on his own hook to trap. Returning, he went through what is now Yellowstone country and saw the wonders therewithin. (The first white man to see it.) When he descrobed the hot steam pouring out of the ground, the fire and sulphur, the geysers and all those natural wonders, they thought he was telling whoppers. The story goes that area of Wyoming was known as Colter's Hell for a long while after that. But the truth is (from all I've read) John Colter never did call that area Colter's Hell. That name was given, actually, to a whole other area---a bit later--in Jim Bridger's era--around 1822-1830 or so. In the trapper's time the Yellowstone area had no fixed name---just things like "burnt ground" and "fountain springs" etc. If I can, I'd like to suggest a pretty good bio of John "Liver Eating" Johnson. It's called CROW KILLER and is by Raymond W. Thorp and Robert Bunker. Now-a-days it is a Midland Book from the University Of Indiana Press (Bloomington, Indiana). The frontpiece is a photo of Johnson at Red Lodge, Montana a year before he died. "Liver Eating" told a few people his name was actually Johnston.
According to Veterans Administration records, "Johnston, John also known as Johnson, John" entered the Veterans Hospital in Los Angeles in December of 1900. He died a month later ---on January 21st.To locate his grave, drive from L.A. westward on Wilshire Blvd., through Beverly Hills past Westwood and the country club, and right on Sepulveda---go a half mile and there will be the cemetary gate.
Jno.(sic) Johnston Art Thieme |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Little Hawk Date: 13 Nov 01 - 11:09 PM "Thar's a GUEST in town..." (Dum-Da-Dum-Dum!) Ah've seed yer kind b'for, GUEST...yew lowdown, squint-eyed, 'nonymous, skulkin' sidewinder. Yew been spreadin' loose talk 'bout me and my hoss. Yew been callin' people names, and you ain't even got one...leastways you ain't owned up to it. Best you either dee-clare yerse'f in thuh open raght now, and tell us who yew are, or esle git yer shootin' irons ready or else SKEEDADDLE outta this here Mudcat Cafe! The Marshall here don't tolerate 'nonymous drifters. :-) - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: GUEST Date: 13 Nov 01 - 10:47 PM This town aint big enough fer the two of us... so i'm leaving... Groucho Marx |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: ChanteyMatt Date: 13 Nov 01 - 04:40 PM How about a little wisdom? "Never squat when yer wearin' spurs." "Always drink upstream from the herd." "If yer out in front of the herd, look over yer shoulder now and then to see if there's anyone there" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Lonesome EJ Date: 13 Nov 01 - 01:33 PM Art...I think its Chutzpah. Lonesome Goyim |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Little Hawk Date: 13 Nov 01 - 01:17 PM The Indians must have wondered about those wild and hairy men...but they had little or no idea what horrors would transpire when larger numbers of white men arrived. Most of the mountain men, like the Indians, would have preferred that Nature be left as it was when they first saw it. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Kim C Date: 13 Nov 01 - 10:15 AM Colter! John Colter. He went up there in the early 1800s to trap beaver and such. I thought they moved his grave to Old Trail Town but this article doesn't mention it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Kim C Date: 13 Nov 01 - 10:09 AM Hi Art--- Mister being a former mountain man hisself (in the mountains of Indiana, mind you) read a little bit about the real Johnson. Most people suppose that the liver-eating thing was more a myth for intimidation than anything else - apparently it worked. The real story is pretty fascinating so I'm at a loss as to why it needed fictionalizing. (Was his name Johnson or Johnston? Memory fails me.) We have been to Johnson's relocated grave, although it's been so many years ago I don't remember where it is! I think it's now at the Old Trail Town in Wyoming, along with the relocated grave of another mountain man whose name I can't remember. He was forced to run arrows and survived. And I loved Will Geer in that movie! "Can you skin grizz?" Cheers----- :-) Kim |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: GUEST,Boab Date: 13 Nov 01 - 12:44 AM From McCloud the visiting New York cowboy polisman-- "There y'go!" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Little Hawk Date: 12 Nov 01 - 10:47 PM Now there is a fascinating tale! Thanks, Art. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Art Thieme Date: 12 Nov 01 - 09:13 PM I do suspect that Robert Redford and the film company figured the LIVER EATING thing would be too much for audiences of that time. It was just, conveniently left out of the movie. That was considered "big medicine" to eat a part of your foe (or take his scalp) and it would protect you in future conflicts. Art Thieme |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Art Thieme Date: 12 Nov 01 - 09:05 PM Kim C, That was a tall tale I used for years and I was surprised to see it in J.Johnson. I used the story to introduce listeners to Woody Guthrie's dust bowl ballads.
mine: I was ridin' along in a terrible dust blow and spotted a Stetson hat on the ground. Me not being one to let a good hat go, I got off my horse and picked it up. Imagine my surprise when it had a head in it. The head looked up and me and said, "Pilgrim, I'm on horseback. Ya best get a shovel" in Jer. Johnson: The mountain man, Del Gue (a real historical personage), is found out in the middle of nowhere burried up to his neck and spitting sand. Johnson asks him if the Indians did that to him?! Johnson was actually John Johnson--better known as "Liver Eating Johnson. As in the film, Johnson's Indian family had been massacred by Crow Indians for something Johnson had done that infuriated the tribe. J.J. killed a band of Crows in return and it became a manhood thing for individual Crows to go after him one at a time. They never were able to kill Johnson but he killed all of them and then ate a part of their liver's too. Eventually, it was all called off after the tribe decided Johnson was more of a god than a mann. Art Thieme |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Kim C Date: 12 Nov 01 - 10:22 AM From Jeremiah Johnson: Q: Indians bury you like that? A: 'Tweren't Mormons. But I got a good horse under me. (or something like that...) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Little Hawk Date: 11 Nov 01 - 10:45 PM "Ah knowed thet young whippersnapper when he warn't knee high to a gopher!" (spoken by old character like Gabby Hayes, Slim Pickens, etc.) - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: GUEST,Lyle Date: 11 Nov 01 - 09:29 PM From Blazing Saddles: Madeline Kahn Says to Cleavon Little (After she serves him a 12 inch sausage and the lights go out) "Is it twue what they say about Black men?" "OH! It's Twue - It's Twue!!" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: okthen Date: 11 Nov 01 - 05:47 PM "........but it just might work" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Little Hawk Date: 11 Nov 01 - 05:27 PM "plug 'em and plant 'em" - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: robomatic Date: 11 Nov 01 - 04:42 PM "Shalom Aleichem!" - Cat Ballou "This is Bill, the Buffalo Butcher" "That's Buffalo HUNTER!" "You have to HUNT 'em?" -Evil Roy Slade |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Donuel Date: 11 Nov 01 - 04:07 PM Killin a man is like stealing everything he ever had and everything he coulda had. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: John MacKenzie Date: 11 Nov 01 - 03:28 PM Chutzpah? Jock |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Bat Goddess Date: 11 Nov 01 - 02:31 PM "I ain't much for words, ma'am, but would you mind backin' yore wagon offa my foot." "See the arrow in Sargeant O'Hara's back? See the color of the feathers? That can mean only one thing: Sargeant O'Hara is dead." "I don't do much rustlin' cepten when I wear taffeta shorts." Haven't a clue where I got these (Mad Magazine?!?) but I've been quoting them since I was knee high to a coin operated horsie. Bat Goddess |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Little Hawk Date: 11 Nov 01 - 02:00 PM Most of these are male cliches, but here's a female one... Dance Hall girl/whore with a heart of gold/southern belle type is given an admiring compliment by cowpoke...who is normally a man of few words. She gazes back at him, fanning herself, and says, breathily..."D' yew meyen thayat?" - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: VoxFox Date: 11 Nov 01 - 01:51 PM "Ya Reckin'?" - just about any cowboy show. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Art Thieme Date: 11 Nov 01 - 11:15 AM "One in the hand is worth two George Bushes." (from a fiend of mine out west who was a master at bating hooks.) Art |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Lin in Kansas Date: 11 Nov 01 - 02:03 AM And Gene Wilder (again), sitting with arms crossed in the jail, speaking to Clevon Little:
"Wanta see my fast draw?" Blazing Saddles of course. Lin |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Little Hawk Date: 11 Nov 01 - 12:24 AM Finally back after the visit to Toronto... My, my, you folks've been busy...mighty busy. Ah'm plumb im-pressed, Ah shorely am. Here are some ya done missed, though... "VAMOOSE! Yew ornery sidewinder..." "Skeedaddle! Yew no-account varmint..." "He died with his boots on." (Well, duh! Who fights a gunfight in his stocking feet?) "Hey, Hombre..." "Thar's a stranger in town!" (Dum-Da-Dum-Dum!!!) And last, but not least... *** DRAW!!! **** And, of course, *** Slap leather! *** (The guys who yelled "Draw!" usually had the edge, cos it takes longer to yell "Slap leather!" Thus, as time went by, "Draw!" became the predominant expression, boot hill being full of graves containing the "mortal remains" of people whose last words had been "Slap lea----" or in some cases just "Sla---") FAMOUS WESTERN MUSIC CLICHES: Remember those piano chords they used to play when the Indians would appear on the next ridge! What were those chords? In WWII movies a similar musical riff was used whenever the Japanese would appear on the horizon, but it was more "eastern" sounding as opposed to western. What were those chords? The Walrus pointed out: "I don't like it, it's too quiet" At which point, of course, the speaker promptly turns into a human pin-cushion (how can the injuns always tell who said it and when?). Wal, Walrus, them injuns has some downright spooky powers what ain't rightly Christian, and they KNOWS whut yer thinkin' afore ya even breaks wind. They's got their own idee 'bout when ta fight and when ta lay low, and they's a sneaky buncha varmints, thet's fer sure. Why, them red devils has been knowed ta wait half the night fer some sodbuster t' say "Ah don't like it, it's too quiet...", jest so's they kin fill the pore soul full of arrows raght then and there, jest fer spite... As a former Indian (previous life), I can vouch for the truth of this. In one incident I clearly recall, I and the other 30 or so braves in our party spent a stupefying eight hours in the cold and dark with our bowstrings stretched taut till our arms were damn near falling off...and what do we hear? Gossip about the whores in El Paso. Complaints about the long hours and low pay. Complaints about the son-of-a-bitch trail boss. Complaints about the lousy food. Whining, griping, belching, and spitting from these stinking cowboys...BUT NOT ONE WORD ABOUT IT BEING "too quiet". Unbelievable! Finally, at about 4:45 AM this cowpoke with a prominent Adams apple and a face only a mother can love scratches his crotch for the 85th time and says "I don't like it, it's too quiet out there." Geronimo!!! We filled that sucker so full of arrows, it would have made a porcupine look butt naked. We took no prisoners. We were fed up with that outfit. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: JohnInKansas Date: 10 Nov 01 - 09:08 PM I've always had fond memories from a line in the John Wayne movie Big Jake. The Duke (Jake) is sitting on his horse next to his sort-of post-adolescent son. Son makes some s.a. remark. Right as the son hits the dirt - propelled off his horse by "Big Jakes" bootheel, the line - "If y' can't respect yer elders, y' can at least respect yer betters." But then I have children too. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Lin in Kansas Date: 10 Nov 01 - 08:13 PM Lonesome EJ--I had my fingers poised over my keyboard to type those immortal lines from Butch Cassidy when I got to your post--rats!!! you beat me to 'em!! But...we must also add: OH, S-H-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-!!!!!!!!!! used by Gene Wilder in "The Cisco Kid", while a very young Harrison Ford screamed OY VEY!!!! (also while jumping off a cliff) Lin |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Linda Kelly Date: 10 Nov 01 - 07:55 PM 'Fill your hand, you sonnofabitch!' and the infamous 'Dead or Alive -I'm coming to getcha!' |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Amos Date: 10 Nov 01 - 07:47 PM Walrus, check 09-Nov-01 - 07:05 PM . A. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Lonesome EJ Date: 10 Nov 01 - 07:46 PM "Ya got it comin, but I'm not gonna hit ya. No, I'm not gonna hit ya. Ah, the hell I'm not!" Whap! -Marion "The Duke" Morrison Paul Newman - "What kinda rules are we gonna have?" Big Ugly Guy - "Rules!? In a knife fight!?" Bends over laughing. Newman kicks him in the balls. Newman - "Well, if there ain't gonna be no rules, lets get on with the fight." Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid Also from Butch and Sundance "who ARE those guys?!",and the scene when they have to jump off the cliff into the creek. Sundance hesitates and says "I can't swim, Butch." Then Newman says "Swim! Hell, the fall'll kill you!" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Midchuck Date: 10 Nov 01 - 07:37 PM And a brand new one that my daughter sent me: "I kinda like it down here in my hole,' said Big Jim, 'I can't see the twentieth century from it. It's a good hole and I feel comfortable down here. Nice deposits. It soothes me. Why, tens of thousands of years from now when that fucking mess at Big Sky is excavated and archaeologists are puzzling over what will doubtless be known as the Bad Taste Culture I won't be here. But they will." The Stick Game Peter Bowen |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Charley Noble Date: 10 Nov 01 - 07:06 PM SNORT, SNORT! "Steady, Big Feller!" The Lone Ranger Why do we feed these threads?;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: GUEST,colwyn dane Date: 10 Nov 01 - 06:22 PM 'When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.'
---'The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance'
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: X Date: 10 Nov 01 - 02:01 PM "Do not forsake me, oh my darling... High Noon |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: GUEST,colwyn dane Date: 10 Nov 01 - 01:57 PM 'The Sheriff of Fractured Jaw' Directed by Raoul Walsh has Kenneth More in the role of heir to firm of English gunsmiths and he is advised to go out West to drum up business by his father(played by Robert Morley):
'There's some frightful female there called Jessie James and she's shooting at everyone.'
'Custer is dead'
'Come and see a fat old man sometime!' CD |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: GUEST,pete Date: 10 Nov 01 - 12:45 PM Stick ya hands up, ya bum (don't forget the comma) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: catspaw49 Date: 10 Nov 01 - 08:17 AM As the nearsighted cowboy said after some target practice, "Holy Cow." I haven't seen Mr. Thieme this wired in many a moon!!!! The Master Punster is alive and and completely sick!!!! Great stuff Art......simply GREAT!!! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: The Walrus Date: 10 Nov 01 - 07:00 AM Not strictly a cowboy saying, but how about
"I don't like it, it's too quiet" At which point, of course, the speaker promptly turns into a human pin-cushion (how can the injuns always tell who said it and when?).
I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned
"A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do" Walrus
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Art Thieme Date: 10 Nov 01 - 03:22 AM Didn't mean to do that---double post I mean. (Yeah, one Jim Post is enough !) I am tired... A.t. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Art Thieme Date: 10 Nov 01 - 03:18 AM Harp---I didn't go to bed. I was busy trying to write "HOOOTSPAAH" (and polishing my saddle horn). How are you, kid. I can't sleep. Just needed silly diversion tonight. Too much heavy goin' down and the doc won't let me drink. May try to see if that diet tribe will accept me. Will P.M. you one o' these days when stuff is cleaned off the fan. (Pardon the thread creep.) Sleep tight. A. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Art Thieme Date: 10 Nov 01 - 03:17 AM Harp---I didn't go to bed. I was busy trying to write "HOOOTSPAAH" (and polishing my saddle horn). How are you, kid. I can't sleep. Just needed silly diversion tonight. Too much heavy goin' down and the doc won't let me drink. May try to see if that diet tribe will accept me. Will P.M. you one o' these days when stuff is cleaned off the fan. (Pardon the thread creep.) Sleep tight. A. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Art Thieme Date: 10 Nov 01 - 03:03 AM Once upon a time, out in Wyoming, an Indian named Cat Laughing had a father who was a good singer of range ballads and he was known throughout the Western territories as Cat's Pa. "Why are you called that?--she said. And he answered, "Cause it'd've been dumb to call me "Huutspah" (or however that yiddish word is spelled)!! Now, she always thought that Native-Americans got there names by what their mothers saw first after giving birth. That's why one of her brothers was named Two Dogs F...... "Wait a minute" she yelled. "I ain't gonna touch that with a ten foot Polish person." "Where the hell is this diatribe going?" "Well, if the tribe needs to loose weight, a diet tribe might do the trick." "And, yes, The squaw of the hippopotamus is equal to the sums of the squaws of the other two hides !" She resonded with that old cowboy line and all-around good pun: "Haifa lootin', Newton shootin', son of a nun from Barcelona, part time plowboy, Joe." "This is dumb"--she said. And I agreed. So we all rode into the sunset... Art Thieme |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: harpgirl Date: 10 Nov 01 - 03:03 AM ...geez, even Art has finally gone to bed. Guess I'll turn in ma self.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: harpgirl Date: 10 Nov 01 - 03:01 AM "Holy cow, it's Blue Duck!" Said by Belle Starr when her husband took a triple dose of viagra... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: harpgirl Date: 10 Nov 01 - 02:49 AM ...ya can't what, Stumpie? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Art Thieme Date: 10 Nov 01 - 02:35 AM SHOULD'VE been in Lonesome Dove: Augustus McRae says when they ask if they can cut off his other leg, "Quit askin' me those stupid questions 'cause ya can't stump me !!!!" Art Thieme |
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Subject: RE: BS: Most classic cowboy sayings of all time! From: Art Thieme Date: 10 Nov 01 - 02:31 AM "He never was one to divest himself of a garment just 'cause it had some age on it." my favorite from Lonesome Dove art thieme |