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Need info: Inman and Ira

19 Feb 98 - 10:53 PM
Art Thieme 19 Feb 98 - 11:24 PM
Susan of DT 20 Feb 98 - 11:00 PM
Art Thieme 22 Feb 98 - 09:59 PM
John Clark 04 Feb 99 - 05:30 AM
Art Thieme 04 Feb 99 - 09:55 AM
John Clark 05 Feb 99 - 12:53 AM
GUEST,rai seregor 13 Feb 10 - 02:34 PM
Joe Offer 13 Feb 10 - 03:11 PM
GUEST,IRA ROGERS 24 Feb 10 - 09:45 PM
GUEST,IRA ROGERS 24 Feb 10 - 10:13 PM
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GUEST,Miles 28 Jun 10 - 08:11 PM
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Subject: Inman and Ira
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Date: 19 Feb 98 - 10:53 PM

Who were these politically savvy folk singers, I have one of their recordings, good stuff, where did they go?


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Subject: RE: Inman and Ira
From: Art Thieme
Date: 19 Feb 98 - 11:24 PM

They were a duo in Chicago in the 60's. Did a bunch of Oscar Brown Jr. songs. Recorded for Argo Records I think. Some song titles from them: "Bid 'Em In", "Signifyin' Monkey", "Rollin' Mill Done Burned Down". Their names are Roy Inman and Ira Rogers. This was 60's RAP---way before the craze for that. But RAP has long been a part of Afro-American life. Oscar Brown popularized a rap style in his compositions.Hope this might help.If you get to Rockford Il. check out TOAD HALL at 2106 Broadway.(phone is 815-226-1259)You might be able to check by phone & buy by mail. It"s a used book and used record store. Pricey but they'll have 'em I'd bet.Great stock. Good folks there. I found that place long ago when doing a gig with Jim Kweskin at Charlotte's Web, a good old club in Rockford (long gone). It was Kweskin that turned me on to the place.He'd go there searching out old 78 rpm records. Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Inman and Ira
From: Susan of DT
Date: 20 Feb 98 - 11:00 PM

Art - Dick has been looking for versions of the Signifying Monkey for years. If you have words and/or tune, he would appreciate it. Thanx.


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Subject: RE: Inman and Ira
From: Art Thieme
Date: 22 Feb 98 - 09:59 PM

Don't have the words. Sorry! But I remember hearin' the song. Art


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Subject: RE: Inman and Ira
From: John Clark
Date: 04 Feb 99 - 05:30 AM

I seem to recall a second floor folk club/coffeehouse on Wells Street in Chicago that was run by wither Inman or Ira in the mid-60's. Does that ring a bell with anyone who was around Chicago at that time?


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Subject: RE: Inman and Ira
From: Art Thieme
Date: 04 Feb 99 - 09:55 AM

The only 2nd floor operation I can think of was Freddy Holstein's apartment. ;-) It was next to THE RISING MOON (later to be MOTHER BLUES) which did have a second floor raised area from which the show/stage on the first level could be viewed.

Art


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Subject: RE: Inman and Ira
From: John Clark
Date: 05 Feb 99 - 12:53 AM

Different place...the place I'm thinking of was maybe a block south of Mother Blues (The Rising Moon was a bit before my time). I do remember visiting the woman who ran Mother Blues, though. She had a pet racoon, as I recall.


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From: GUEST,rai seregor
Date: 13 Feb 10 - 02:34 PM

who were inman and ira re: first folk festival uof chicago 1961. who has heard of them


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Subject: RE: Inman and Ira
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Feb 10 - 03:11 PM

Any of their recordings available nowadays?

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Need info: Inman and Ira
From: GUEST,IRA ROGERS
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 09:45 PM

It was Arena Pizza Then Ira Rogers Took over changed name to poetry cafe featured dish pan pizza and Ira provided a place for folksingers to work It was he who enabled ed holstein to develop Of course Fred Holstein was there It was where Terry Callier was seen by a close friend of Iras Charles Stepney (who became arranger and chief writer for Earth Wind And Fire) Charles was impressed with Terry and as chief arranger for Chess records was major in gettin Terry to the big time There was Terry Rebanaur Jonathan David and Elbert trio Willie Wright and a host of others. The place was always packed


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Subject: RE: Need info: Inman and Ira
From: GUEST,IRA ROGERS
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 10:13 PM

Stumbled on this from a guy writing on the first folk festval at U of CHICACO. Inman and Ira were ivitd . We only did one Oscar song BID EM IN which depicted a slave girl being auctioned off. Our music was pertinent to black history . Lots of chain gang songs from the Lomax collection. Rosie Wella etc. Josh White gave us a couple of blues . Big time was singing THE KLAN on the TODAY SHOW 1961 Barbara Walters third week It was an historic moment two black dudes putting down the Klan on national t v The phones rang off the hook. The producer was fired.Allan Arkins father wrote it. We were at the village gate in N YORK    with Miriam Mkeba and Charlie Byrd and used to go between shows to the staircase to cheer up a struggling comedian we got tight with him and wished him luck It was Bill Cosby Tom Mboya invited us to tour Africa with Miriam Of course you know the many times we were featured at the GATE OF HORN old and new. Man have I got stories


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Subject: RE: Need info: Inman and Ira
From: GUEST,IRA ROGERS
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 10:15 PM

go on the web two are available


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Subject: RE: Need info: Inman and Ira
From: GUEST,Miles
Date: 28 Jun 10 - 08:11 PM

I have their first album. They autographed it for me at a concert they did with the Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem at Orchestra Hall, in Chicago, in the early 60's. They were an amazingly great duo. They did a version of their prison cell dialog on TV. I believe it was on a Hallmark series, way back when.


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Subject: RE: Need info: Inman and Ira
From: Stringsinger
Date: 29 Jun 10 - 03:42 PM

Ira is that you?

I remember an Ira and Inman recording session which was financed by Frank Fried, I think it was Columbia. A fat A and R guy with a cigar showed up as a line producer and proceeded to try to turn Ira and Inman into a popular early rock group. They didn't get the chain gang stuff at all. Ira and Inman were great doing this material. I got so disgusted that as a sub-arranger I walked off the gig. I wasn't going to let this idiot A and R guy destroy their music. I remember him saying, "We'll put a growling tenor sax on the songs with a drum beat 'cause that's what the kids like." Today, that could be done with what sophistication on the part of rock producers have acquired without destroying their music. But back then, there was no sympathy or understanding of Ira and Inman's artistry. It was A and R B.S. Frank Fried I guess was at the mercy of Columbia Records.

It highlights what happens when the big corporations try to run the show.

Frank


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Subject: RE: Need info: Inman and Ira
From: GUEST,BHG
Date: 27 Feb 11 - 03:37 PM

I remember an LP album of Inman and Ira's - circa mid 60s. The pic on the cover was the two of them, laughing and cracking up, one playing the bass, both cracking up. Songs I remember from it were BID EM IN and a fabulous take on COME BACK TO ME. Am I right? I'd love to find this somewhere. Columbia/I tunes how bout it?


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Subject: RE: Need info: Inman and Ira
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Aug 13 - 03:06 PM

I remember hearing IRA as a single at a second floor folk club on Wells Street. About 1965. The four of us loved him and got halfway back to Maywood before we realized we had walked out without paying our bill. We went back the next night to pay the bill and hear him again. I never saw his name listed for any club dates after that, in my few trips to Chicago. His performance the first night we saw him was so electric, I expected him to become a headliner. Meigs G.


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Subject: RE: Need info: Inman and Ira
From: Thomas Stern
Date: 11 Aug 13 - 05:00 PM

A quick internet search turns up 2 albums (on Columbia and Mercury labels), and 2 singles. Below are the details.

If IRA ROGERS is still on the list (he posted as guest),
please let us know what happened to the duo, and what
you have been doing since these recordings.

Best wishes, Thomas.
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LeRoy Inman and Ira Rogers
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COLUMBIA 4-42030                         7"-45rpm
COLUMBIA 3-42030                         7" 33rpm
tamiragolo 2:13   
rosie      2:05

COLUMBIA CL 1731/CS 8531                         LP 1962
The Exciting New Folk Duo
INMAN & IRA
Orchestra and Chorus under the direction of MILT OKUN

Cut 'Em Down
Rosie
Black Girl
My Baby Rocks Me
This Train
Jasper
Unclouded Day
Witness
Run Mona Run
The Rollin' Mill Done Burn Down
Bid 'Em In
The Street Vendor


MERCURY MG 20778/SR 60778                     LP 1963
singing spokesmen for THE NEW GENERATION.
IMAN AND IRA
accompanied by Guy Gilbert, guitar;
Bruce Langhorn, 2nd guitar and Norman Keenan, bass.
Musical Director Milt Okun Produced by by Frank Fried
A1 Jimbo 2:03
A2 Green Green Rocky Road 1:58
A3 Don't Lie, Buddy   3:47
A4 Julie 2:55
A5 Long Time 2:47
A6 Strontium 90   3:01
B1 The Klan(David Arkin & Alan Arkin) SANGA Music Inc BMI
B2 Diggin' My Potatoes
B3 Bird Song
B4 Dance Me A Jig
B5 Bull Dog Roar
B6 My Dog's Bigger Than Your Dog(Tom Paxton)


MERCURY 72093                      7" 45rpm
Inman & Ira
Jimbo
Green Green Rocky Road


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Subject: RE: Need info: Inman and Ira
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Dec 13 - 11:12 PM

I saw them in NYC at the Village Gate in 1961-2


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