Help: Tonight's Boxing

Subject: Tonight's Boxing
From: Terry K
Date: 17 Nov 01 - 05:18 PM

So tonight, somewhere in the USA, (probably Vegas) our dear English boy Lennox Lewis is fighting some guy of dubious origin for the Champeeeenship of the Wooooorld. I will have to watch it on Pay (spit) To View, but nobody here can tell me what time it starts.

I have fallen foul in the past; like, the programme starts at 10.00 p.m. but the fight doesn't come on until 4.00 a.m. So I nod off about 3.00 a.m. and miss the whole thing.

So the question is, does anybody know what time it really starts? And if the time could be translated into Greenwich Mean Time, wow, what a bonus that would be.

Please, please don't let me down - I need to know quite soon as it does take me a little while to re-learn how to set my digital alarm clock.

Thanks and more thanks, Terry

P.S. I still can't place which county Lennox's accent comes from.

Subject: RE: Help: Tonight's Boxing
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 17 Nov 01 - 05:32 PM

Hi terry. Most of Lennox's accent comes from right here in Canada where he lived for most of his life.

The paper says the fight will start at 12 midnite (Toronto Time)

That sounds pretty close to five or six AM British time.

Cheers

Rick

Subject: RE: Help: Tonight's Boxing
From: Terry K
Date: 17 Nov 01 - 05:42 PM

Thanks muchly Rick, I've consulted the world time chart and that gives me 5.00 a.m. as the equivalent to your midnight, so I WILL get a bit of sleep after all.

The best clue I had to Lennox's accent is that he sounds a bit like Greg Rusedski, but I know Lennox is not Polish.

Now, about that Fsharp7..................

Cheers, Terry

Subject: RE: Help: Tonight's Boxing
From: kendall
Date: 17 Nov 01 - 06:16 PM

I th some unknown clocked him recently?

Subject: RE: Help: Tonight's Boxing
From: Terry K
Date: 18 Nov 01 - 01:23 AM

Boy oh boy, did he just get his own back or what!

Subject: RE: Help: Tonight's Boxing
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Nov 01 - 03:16 AM

Well, did he?

Subject: RE: Help: Tonight's Boxing
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 18 Nov 01 - 03:33 AM

English??? The guy's not even any more British than I am Canadian, just cuz I happen to be domiciled on Vancouver Island. I'd say Canada has the biggest claim on him--and aye, he DID "do a job" on his opponent.

Subject: RE: Help: Tonight's Boxing
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 18 Nov 01 - 03:35 AM

Come to think of it---"Lord" Conrad Black thinks he's "British" now, too; ugh!!

Subject: RE: Help: Tonight's Boxing
From: Terry K
Date: 18 Nov 01 - 08:52 AM

Methinks you are not English either, GUEST Boab, or perhaps you would have recognised the style known as "deadpan".

Cheers, Terry

Subject: RE: Help: Tonight's Boxing
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 18 Nov 01 - 12:08 PM

Sounds like Lennox has earned himself another big payday.

Look, sorry for this but boy it's hard to get enthusiastic for boxing today (I Know, I know,...as a wimpy lefty peacenik guy I should hate boxing period...but it's my fatal flaw)

As a kid, I remember Floyd Patterson and Ingmar Johannson and Muhammed Ali, and Henry Cooper etc. It's hard to get overly enthusiastic about today's crop.

My interest came from watching old black and white films and reading about Jack Johnson, and Jack Dempsey, and Gentleman Jim Corbett.

Rick

Subject: RE: Help: Tonight's Boxing
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Nov 01 - 01:08 PM

Once again Rick, we have something in common.

One word .... Ali.

I can't get excited, hell I can't even work up to "bored stiff," on today's heavyweights. The other classes ain't much either..........It was always a dirty game, but there were times when someone came along...........

Spaw

Subject: RE: Help: Tonight's Boxing
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 18 Nov 01 - 01:36 PM

'Spaw,

Your one word is what made me a boxing fan. The epitome of what an athlete should be.

Four words as to why I have very little interest now.

Don King, Mike Tyson.

Subject: RE: Help: Tonight's Boxing
From: kendall
Date: 18 Nov 01 - 06:03 PM

Ah yes, the great Ali. Beaten by Ken Norton three times. Never fought a full three minutes round, and, got away with holding his opponent behind the head in spite of countless warnings. He was beaten decisively when Angelo Dundee cut his glove to stop the fight and give him the rest he needed. Mike Tyson is an animal. Don King is a crook. Pay per view was the end for me, screw boxing.

Subject: RE: Help: Tonight's Boxing
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 18 Nov 01 - 06:39 PM

I still remember that grainy old black and white 8mm film of the "Northwoods Heavyweight Champeenship bout". They'd brought John L Sullivan up to Maine to go 25 rounds with 'Morse, the Maine Mauler'. It was touch and go for twenty rounds til the 'mauler' hit him with his three best jokes, one right after another. Now THAT was boxing! Think Don King's grandfather promoted it.

Rick (yes, you're right I DON'T have anything better to do today)

Subject: RE: Help: Tonight's Boxing
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 18 Nov 01 - 10:06 PM

Well Kendall, you'll never change my opion of Ali. Yes, Norton beat him as did others. The fact that he regained his belt three times and was champ when the heavyweight division had guys like Norton, Frazier, Foreman and many other top notch fighters says a lot about his pride and determination. Let's not forget that when he was at the height of his career it was all taken away from him because he stood up for his beliefs. Clay/Ali had dignity, something which is sadly lacking in Don King's circus.

I saw in today's paper that the victorious Lewis is looking to fight Tyson. Too bad. Since Lewis decided that he is British I've had a bit of a problem with him, but he does seem to have a lot more class than a lot of the heavyweight clowns out there. But King makes his fortune with Tyson, King calls all the shots, so I guess Lewis will have to climb in the ring with the Animal. I won't be watching.

Subject: RE: Help: Tonight's Boxing
From: Terry K
Date: 19 Nov 01 - 08:27 AM

Nor will anyone change my opinion of Ali -the consummate human being.

And there never was a rule which said those who compete in sport at its highest level are not allowed to come second once in a while.

Cheers, Terry

Subject: RE: Help: Tonight's Boxing
From: kendall
Date: 19 Nov 01 - 08:36 AM

I'm not taking anything away from Ali. He had it all, and, will go down as one of the very best. Also, I admire his integrity, it was worth more to him than his title. I like that in a man.

Subject: RE: Help: Tonight's Boxing
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Nov 01 - 02:49 PM

Steve and Terry....well spoken. I look at him today and I know that some of his condition comes from those years in the ring, especially towards the end. But like many others, I loved Muhammed Ali the man. In the recent events after 9/11 he has turned up to bring whatever he can to help. I remember one firefighter saying he was more excited to meet Ali than the President.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Help: Tonight's Boxing
From: Fortunato
Date: 19 Nov 01 - 03:31 PM

Boxing? Nah.

What we need is televised nude female midget mud wrestling. Now there's a sport worth watching. Who gives a f++k about two large men beating the living shit out of each other?

NUDE FEMALE MIDGETS! NUDE FEMALE MIDGETS!

Rick, I'm a bit idle myself today. I told TJ about the Larivee, maybe he'll buy it and we can both live vicariously.

Subject: RE: Help: Tonight's Boxing
From: Leeder
Date: 19 Nov 01 - 03:32 PM

Re Lennox's ancestry: I believe he was born in England, of Jamaican parents, who later emigrated to Canada. He grew up in Kitchener, Ontario, won a gold for Canada in the Olympics (he could have chosen to compete for England or Jamaica as well), moved back to England when he turned pro. His accent would be a conglomerate of all that, and I would guess would be pretty hard to pin down even for an expert.

My son-in-law is a fan; we paid close attention to the fight when I was in England (but didn't get up at 3:00 a.m., nor pay the pay-per-view toll). I picked Lennox in the 5th -- I was just one round off.

Subject: RE: Help: Tonight's Boxing
From: kendall
Date: 19 Nov 01 - 07:16 PM

I would also rather meet Ali than Bush

Subject: RE: Help: Tonight's Boxing
From: Terry K
Date: 20 Nov 01 - 03:33 AM

That's correct, Leeder, but just for the record I was rather joshing about which English County his accent comes from; likewise his English tennis counterpart, Greg Rusedski.

Terry

Subject: RE: Help: Tonight's Boxing
From: Leeder
Date: 20 Nov 01 - 12:30 PM

Terry, I guess I have to get attuned to the nuances. Tongue-in-cheek isn't as easy to pick up without visuals. No doubt that's true of my stuff as well.

Subject: RE: Help: Tonight's Boxing
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Nov 01 - 12:22 PM

Our`enry Cooper got it right when he washed his hands of present day Boxing. He called it a Circus, and listening to these punch drunk loud mouths,can you blame him?. When I was a boy in the 1940`s there was 8 World Champions, now it is impossible to arrive at a figure. I wouldn`t look at them if they were beating up the wife.

Subject: RE: Help: Tonight's Boxing
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Nov 01 - 03:53 PM

Perhaps Sir Henry was one of the last "gentlemen" in the sport and was outfoxed by Angie Dundee and robbed of the chance to defeat a very young Cassius Clay. On the other hand, when the 5th round finally started, from that point on he was chewed up by that twisting jab more than almost any other fighter. When he tried Ali again in '66(?) he was about as bloodied and cut as anyone I recall except Jerry Quarry. Henry Cooper is a fine man but I think the "circus" angle, although I would agree with him, is but one reason he left the (alleged) sport.

Spaw