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Trelawny


22 Feb 98 - 06:34 PM
Alice 23 Feb 98 - 12:32 AM
Wolfgang 23 Feb 98 - 07:00 AM
Jon W. 23 Feb 98 - 11:05 AM
Joe Offer 23 Feb 98 - 04:12 PM
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Subject: CORNISH SONGS
From:
Date: 22 Feb 98 - 06:34 PM

I've posted a couple of Cornish songs recently Jan Knuckey and the Bellringer and have quite a few more. While they may not all be Cornish they are versions sung here and like all races we do claim them. But the point of my message is, is there an interest out there for these songs and tunes?

Regards
BAZ


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: Alice
Date: 23 Feb 98 - 12:32 AM

yes.


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: Wolfgang
Date: 23 Feb 98 - 07:00 AM

yes


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: Jon W.
Date: 23 Feb 98 - 11:05 AM

Absolutly.


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Feb 98 - 04:12 PM

Well, everybody around here knows how much I like corny songs.
What's that you say? Cornish?
Well, that, too.
Seriously, Baz, we'd sure like to see them.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: Cliff
Date: 23 Feb 98 - 09:45 PM

Yes Please! And thank You. Also try a singer by the name of Jim Wearne who sings Cornish material only and has a couple of cassettes available. His webpage can be found at: http://www.chaven.com/users/coram/default.html


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 06 Dec 99 - 08:11 PM

Well there are a number of songs in the DT that are missing their tunes that are claimed to be Cornish in Peter Kennedy's Folksongs of Ireland and England. With assistance from Alison they'll be at MUDI in a little while.

Cambourne Hill
Cornish May Day Carol
Come And I will Sing You
The (Sweet) Nightingale

I'll do some work on:
Jowan Bon/John The Bone (Not in DT)
Trelawny - This looks like a great song (Not in DT)
The Tree On The Hill - A variant of Rattlin Bog

The other Cornish songs in the DT c/w lyrics and tune are:
Cornish Wassail
It Rains It Hails and Snows and Blows
The Holly Bears a Berry Hal An Tow Where Are You Going To My Pretty Maid

Regards, John


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Subject: Lyr Add: TRELAWNY (in Cornish and English)
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 06 Dec 99 - 10:24 PM

Here's Trelawny in both languages. With Alison's help the tune will be at MUDI in due course. Regards, John


TRELAWNY

1 Gans cledha da yn dorn yu lei
Gwyr, lowen an golon
Yth aswon Myghtern Jamys fel
Pandr' wrello Kernewon
Yu ordnys Ie ha prys ancow?
Trelawny dos dh'y fyn?
Mes ugans myl an dus Kernow
Gothfos an praga 'vyn
A vew Trelawny bras?
'Verow Trelawny bras?
Otomma ugans myl Kernow
A woffyth oil an cos

2 Yn meth an Capten, bew y wos
Gwas jolyf yn mysk cans
Tour Loundres kyn fe Carrek Los
Y'n dylerfsen dewhans
Ny a dres Tamar, tyr dhe dyr
By 'ny vyth Havren let
Ha scoth ryp scoth, cowetha gwyr
Pyu orthyn-ny a set?

3 Devedhys bys yn Fos Loundres
Gwel dek dhyn, ny a gry
Deugh mes, ownegyon oil, deugh mes
Gwell on. agesough-why
Trelawny yu avel felon
Fast yn cargharow tyn
Mes ugans myl a Gernewon
Gothfos an ken a vyn


1 A good sword and a trusty hand
A merry heart and true
King James's men shall understand
What Cornish men can do
And have they fixed the where and when?
And shall Trelawny die?
Here's twenty thousand Cornishmen
Will know the reason why
And shall Trelawny live?
Or shall Trelawny die?
Here's twenty thousand Cornishmen
Will know the reason why

2 Out spake the captain brave and bold
A merry wight was he
Though London Tower were Michael's hold
We'll set Trelawny free
We'll cross the Tamar, land to land
The Severn is no stay
Then one and all and hand in hand
And who shall bid us nay?

3 And when we come to London wall
A pleasant sight to view
Come forth, come forth, ye cowards all
Here are better men than you
Trelawny he's in keep in hold
Trelawny he may die
But twenty thousand Cornish bold
Will know the reason why


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Subject: Tunes add: CORNISH SONGS
From: alison
Date: 07 Dec 99 - 02:36 AM

Hi,

Most of the above tunes(thanks to John's MIDIs) are now available at Mudcat MIDIs

I have decided just to post them as MIDIs, not as MIDItxt.... if anyone really wants ABC for any tunes I post let me know and I'll post it.

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: Mountain Dog
Date: 07 Dec 99 - 09:01 AM

Dear Baz:

Thanks very much for the Cornish tunes! My wife and I have just returned from a seven and a half month sojourn in Cornwall (doing research for a variety of freelance writing projects on the subject of Sacred Beauty in Nature) and heartily enjoyed our stay. Most of all, we fell in love with the land and the Cornish people.

We had the pleasure of hearing concerts by an outstanding Cornish male voice choir as well as catching a wide variety of solo and ensemble folk artists in pub venues throughout the county.

So, the more Cornish music you can share with us, the better, in my book!

Many thanks for your contributions.


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: Margaret\W
Date: 07 Dec 99 - 12:07 PM

There's a Cornish Christmas carol, set by Peter Warlock earlier this century; I have a recording but no words/dots. It's worth checking out if anyone's keen.

Margaret


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: Wotcha
Date: 08 Dec 99 - 11:47 AM

BAZ,

You know I like them all ! Cheers, Brian


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: GUEST,ianmarshall@sparticus.net
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 01:02 PM

Hi!

Checked your site today - bravo!

Please tell everyone I am producing a CD this month called "21 SONGS OF CORNWALL!"

It`s a comprehensive collection of real TRADITIONAL stuff, none of yer Celtic revival mush, and as I`m the only singer actually IN Cornwall who`s seriously recorded this kind of material, I`d love everyone to know about it - and buy it!?

It would be nice to chat to anyone - yourself included - via e-mail as above (ianmarshall@sparticus.net OR cornwallsong@supanet.com.) I can tell them when the CD is finally issued, and how to order.

ALSO visit my temporary website for more detail: www.cornwallsong.supanet.com

Great to meet you! Love to all. Kernow bys vyken.

Ian Marshall (24, Trevecca, Liskeard, Cornwall PL14 6RH)


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: GUEST,Mark. West Sussex. UK
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 02:56 PM

Peter Kennedy's "Folk Songs of Britain and Ireland" has about 12 Cornish Songs with music and translation. Also Scottish Gaelic, Irish Gaelic, Welsh, Manx, Channel Islands and Romany. Also about 500 pages of songs in English. Weighs a ton, costs a bomb but is totally fascinating and an obvious labour of love. ISBN 0.7119.0283.6


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: Wotcha
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 10:38 PM

Gee Ian,
BAZ is in Cornwall too ... Is he still about?
Cheers,
Brian


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: John Wood
Date: 07 Jan 01 - 02:15 PM

Of course Baz is still around.
I bumped into him first at the Cadgwith one-day festival,then at St.Ives folk club, and a couple of weeks later at the Wadebridge folk festival.<
Greetings John(from Norway).


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: Greyeyes
Date: 07 Jan 01 - 04:49 PM

Ian, I'll pass this info on to the Music Librarian at Plymouth Central Library, where I work, and try and persuade him to order a copy for the Library (even though it's from the other side of the bridge):)

Have you thought of joining The Mudcat? It's free, it could be very useful to you, and perhaps more importantly, you could be very useful to the Mudcat.

Thanks for the info,

Paul


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: paddymac
Date: 07 Jan 01 - 10:16 PM

Ian - along with joining the Mudcat Family, you might consider donating a copy of the CD to the Mudcat auction. It would help the 'cat, and might generate a little publicity for the CD.


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 08 Jan 01 - 11:13 AM

Ian Marshall, would you offer a few insights into how traditional Cornish music differs from "Celtic mush"? I have connections to a local Cornish society and an sincerely interested.


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 08 Jan 01 - 03:49 PM

A couple more sets of Cornish language lyrics in the Forum:

Hal An Tow  Translation into Cornish by Talek and Ylewyth.

http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=26224#314213>Ma Grün War 'n Gelynen   -The Holly Bears a Berry (Sans Day Carol); translation into Cornish by Tyrvab (W. Daniel Watson).  In both cases, English text and tunes are already available in the DT.

Malcolm


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Jan 01 - 06:11 PM

Sorry, don't know how to do blue jobs but these URL's will take you to threads with Songs in Cornish plus translations and tunes.

Lyr/Tune Add: JAN KNUCKEY
Lyr/Tune Add: NAW MAP HARTH/NINE BRAVE BOYS
Lyr/Tune Add: DE HALA ME/MAY FEAST
Lyr/Tune Add: WHEN HA BLEJENNOW/FLOWERS AND WEEDS
Lyr/Tune Add: ESTREN/STRANGER
Lyr/Tune Add: JOWAN BUNT/MR. JOHN BUNT
Lyr/Tune Add: MOWES A VRY/PRETTY MAID

URLs converted to links. --JoeClone, 13-Jan-02.


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: GUEST,Kernow Jon
Date: 09 Jan 01 - 05:49 PM

Ian
It's good to here from you but I would take issue with your claim to be the only singer IN Cornwall to be recording traditional stuff.
Hilary Coleman and Neil Davey have recorded some pretty good stuff with Sowena. Harry Glasson from Goldsithney( due in Winsconsin next month) has also recorded many traditional Cornish songs, he has also written some new material about life in Cornwall and Penwith in particular.
But good luck with the album, if there are any copies at Lowender Perran this year I'll maybe buy one.
Regards KJ


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: GUEST,Kernow Jon
Date: 09 Jan 01 - 05:51 PM

Sorry about the proof reading but you'll get the gist! KJ


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 09 Jan 01 - 08:03 PM

I did some research on Cornish music a while ago for a friend. Here are some of the web sites I found then. Maybe you will find them useful:

Cornish Links Directory
Cornish Links Directory: Music & Song
The Cornish Media Archive
Ilow.Kernow: The Cornish Musician's Site
Kesson Distribution: The Celtic Music Directory


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 09:36 AM

I see that there are no replies so far from Ian. Maybe he just dropped by here to plug his stuff.


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: GUEST,Dexter
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 04:28 AM

Does anyone have the words - IN CORNISH - to 'Ilove the White Rose in it's splendour...............' ??


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 04:51 AM

Jack and Margaret King used to do a song called Cor Bugger Jagger, [not as rude as it sounds] which is definitely west country, but I don't know if it's as far west as Kernow. Anybody know anything about this song?
Giok


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 05:50 AM

Rosie Hardman wrote a song called the Road to Marazion


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 06:24 AM

Giok

Greg Stephens posted some of the words for Cor, Bugger Jagger on a thread about Cornish pasties last year....


Half a pound of flour and marge
Makes a lovely clagger
Just enough for you and me
Cor bugger jagger
Chorus:
O how happy us'll be
When us gets to the west country
Where the oggies grow on trees
Cor bugger jagger

I seem to remember another verse starting

"You make fast, I'll make fast,
Make fast the dinghy
You make fast, kiss my arse
Make fast the dinghy"

And the chorus ending

And we'll all go back to Oggie land....


Kitty


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 06:30 AM

That's the one Kitty, how lovely to see the words after all these years. I think I last heard it in The Cellar at CSH about 1965, but can only remember the tune to the 'We'll all go back to Oggieland' bit. I will look for the full set of words, and hopefully the tune too.
Thanks
Giok


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: Marion in Cornwall
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 09:01 AM

Here you go Dexter, These are the words as per Henegan (I think by Merv Davy). As far as I can tell no-one seems to know of the origin of the song but these words were collected from Neil Plummer of St Stythyans, so the book says.

All the best Marion

An Rosen Wyn (The White Rose)

My agaran rosen wyn mar whek mar dek del dyfhy
An rosen whyn mar splan mar vryntyn a dhre dha gof amma dhevy.
Kensa pan whelys ow whek oll, yth esta mar dek avel ros;
Mes lemmyn mar dhys lyw dha vejeth, mar wyn avel rosen mayth os
My agaran rosen wyn, mar whek mar dek del dyfhy
An rosen wyn mar splan mar vryntyn a dhre dha gof omma dhevy


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: GUEST,Richard
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 09:10 AM

"The Cadgwith Anthem"
"The Floral Dance"


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: Mary Humphreys
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 11:56 AM

Have you heard Mo Keast,who goes to Bodmin Folk Club sing in Cornish?
She has quite a few songs. I don't think she is a Mudcatter, but some of the Bodmin folkies may be. She won the National Folk Music Festival Singer's Competition some years ago. A great singer and a very lovely person.


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 12:56 PM

Giok

I can't do the notation, but try, E, G, G, E, G, G, E, E, D, D,C.......

Kitty


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 01:03 PM

And for the chorus, top C, C, C, G, A, A, G.....

Kitty

PS i sang in an event with Mo Keast at the National last year, and endorse Mary's comments!


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: Joybell
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 06:40 PM

Thank you all. I'm a member of the Cornish Association here in Victoria Australia. We do have a large collection of songs already but I'll pass these on to the other musical members of the group. Here we include Stephen Foster's songs, along with the "traditional" songs, in any musical happening because they were the popular songs at the time of the large migration of Cornish people to Central Victoria - 1850s on. Of course Cyril Tawney's work is also included - especially "The Oggie Man" Joy


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: GUEST,Mingulay
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 10:05 AM

On the subject of Cornish songs, does anyone have the words to
"In a Cornish Kitchen". The only person I have heard sing it is
Geoff Boughton whose whereabouts are at present unknown. More
than likely not trad, but I like it anyway

Cheers

Pete


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Subject: Lyr Add: CORNISH KITCHEN
From: Marion in Cornwall
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 12:26 PM

Pete, I think this might be the song you mentioned.
I can put in an abc of the tune if anyone is interested.

Regards
Marion

CORNISH KITCHEN

Why bless 'ee you knows all about it,
Avore I do tell 'ee a word
'Tis a boy and a maid, and a country glade
A story you've often heard,
How the boy lost his heart to the maid
Well the how of it's always the same;
'Tis where I met Nellie, that I wants to tell 'ee
She was tending the butter and craime.

In a Cornish Kitchen, with the log fire glow on the wall;
And the nickety nock o' the grandfather clock
The blue and white china and all:
The floor clean sanded, the table for supper was laid;
Her mother said stay, well what could I say
So I sat beside Jan's little maid.

Old Jan farmed about forty acres,
And I was his better most man;
So twas easy for me, to be seein' of she,
And that's how the courtin' began:
On Easter Day just a year after,
We marched off to church prinkly dressed;
I gived her the ring and all that sort of thing
And the parson chap he did the rest.

We've a Cornish Kitchen, with the log fire glow on the wall;
And the nickety nock o' the grandfather clock
The blue and white china and all:
There's the squab pie steamin', the table for two neatly laid
A chair for me and another for she
What was once farmer Jan's little maid.

I've seen chaps look wish't as a winnard
What you call scared out of their life;
P'raps starved as a baby or poor lived maybe
But'tis most times a troublesome wife:
Of course all the maids ain't like my maid,
What a joy of the world it would be,
If such maids could be found, to have one each all round
An' all be as happy as we.

We've a Cornwish Kitchen, with the log fire glow on the wall;
And the nickety nock o' the grandfather clock
The blue and white china and all:
We've a brave fire burning, the table for three is laid,
That's Nellie and me and the other you see,
Is our own dear little maid.

Prinky dressed – all dressed up
Squab pie – pigeon pie
Wish't as a winnard – a winnard is a redwing. They stop off in Cornwall for a rest on their way through and usually look pretty 'wished' when they arrive.


These words are from Henegan where the author states that it was written in the 1920's by Frederick Dale and sung by Edith Serpell & Charles Saunders. The publishers were Larway & Co. but the present owners of this firm have no record of the song.


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: MikeofNorthumbria
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 12:52 PM

Greetings to all, especially Giok and Kitty,

Here is a fuller set of words for the notorious Oggie song:

"Where be goin' to Jagger?"   "I be goin' to Looe!"
"Gor, b****r Jagger, I be goin' there too!"
Oh how happy us will be,
When us gets to the west country
Where the oggies grow on trees,
Gor, b****r Jagger!

Half a pound of flour and marge makes a lovely clagger –
Just enough for you and me - Gor, b****r Jagger!
Oh how happy us will be …etc.

Up the Camborne hill we go, down to Helston Ferry.
Come on Jagger, don't be slow, come on Jagger, hurry!
Oh how happy us will be …etc.

You make fast, I'll make fast, make fast the dinghy.
You make fast, kiss my a**e, make fast the dinghy!
And we'll all go back to oggie-land,
To oggie-land, sweet oggie-land!
And we'll all go back to oggie-land,
Where they don't know sugar from …
Tissu paper, tissue paper, marmalade and jam …Oi! Oi!

Oggie, oggie, oggie! …..Oi! Oi! Oi!


Cornish Crib-sheet:

Jagger    = Mate; buddy (compare "Whacker" in Scouse, or "Acker" in Somerset)
Clagger   = Pastry
Oggie    = a Cornish pasty

The identity of the author is unknown to me: presumably it was someone Cornish and nautical. I learned it from Cyril Tawney in the summer of 1962.

Note for Kitty - Greg Stephens was a freshman in the Autumn term of 1962, when I introduced the Oggie song to Heritage, so he may have learned it there. (Though Greg does have Cornish roots, and may have learned it independently.)

Note for Giok - Like yourself, I used to be a regular attender at Jack and Margaret King's 's Saturday night sessions in the Cellar, C# House and may well have mangled the Oggie song at one of them in 1965. We may even have met: were you one of those who sneaked out to The Engineer for a pint during the interval? And did you dash on down to the Student Prince afterwards for Curly's All-Nighter, and catch the first train home on Sunday morning?   Happy Days!

Wassail!


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 02:36 PM

Thanks for the full version, Mike - I've been trying to remember where I first heard it. I suspect it was the Beach Store in Sidmouth (although I went on to Cornwall, with a couple of Herga friends who were subsequently Presidents of Heritage, after my first Sidmouth in 1968, and we went to a pub session in Cadgwith).

Kitty


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: Jeanie
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 03:47 PM

Lots of tunes and songs in Cornish dialect and in Cornish to be found on the An Daras website ("The Doorway to Cornish Folk Arts").

Marion - it's good to see Merv Davey's name mentioned. I used to sing with him in the resident group at Falmouth folk club way back in the Dark Ages !


- jeanie


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 06:43 PM

mainly traditional songs being mentioned but many great contemporary singers like Nigel Mazlyn Jones , Ralph McTell and Clive Palmer have Cornish connections - not to mention Noel Murphy. Hard to believe these guys haven't written something Cornish during their long sojourn so far away from the rest of us.


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: GUEST,Cats at Work
Date: 15 Jun 04 - 04:38 AM

It's worth noting that Cornwall Songwriters who include in their number Mike O'Connor, Jon Heslop, Lucy Burrows, Roger Bryant, Tony Truscott, Kathy Wallis, Ron Openshaw et al, all have in their repetoire, traditional Cornish songs. They don't just write new songs. Mike has a vast collection of traditional songs and music which have been published,   Kathy sings traditional cornish songs which have been recorded, Tony Truscott won a competition at Pan Celtic for his songs in Cornish and both Tony and Mike have been made Bards of the Cornish Gorseth for their contribution to music in Cornwall. Contact any of them and they'll all be pleased to help in whatever way they can.


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: GUEST,Mingulay
Date: 15 Jun 04 - 08:35 AM

Many thanks Marion, this is exactly what I was looking for. As for
the tune the one I remember fits to these words. As I thought it
is not "trad" but I still like it.

Cheers

Pete


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: GUEST,kevin in northumberland
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 08:45 PM

I'v been looking for a site like this for ages.
Just what us ex pat cornish need.
keep it up kevin


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: LadyJean
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 10:40 PM

"I saw a snail drive a nail fye man fye
I saw a snail drive a nail, Who's the fool now
I saw a snail drive a nail from Penzance up to Hale."
Thou hast well drunken man, who's the fool now."

Penzance and Hale are both Cornish towns, I know because I've stayed in one, and passed through the other. Yes there are pirates in Penzance, they run shell shops, and assorted other tourist traps. But I did love Cornwall, and the people were so nice!


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: hilda fish
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 11:02 PM

Rob Strike, does traditional cornish melodies, Pyba , Dalla, Jim Wearne, Bagas Degol, Ånao Åtao, Bolingey Troyl Band, Aveldenn, Graham Ellaby, Mike O'Connor, and ross keltek all do traditional Çornish and are featured on CD Mammyk Ker, Kernow, Åll the ?est of Çornwall, more info www.kesson.com
In Australia the Çornish Åssociation, or singer/songwriter Çarrl Myriad (google it) are very useful re words and music of trad Cornish


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 06:04 AM

My cousin in Allet does The Cornish Alphabet.
He is no folkie, and it is a monologue rather than a song.
Anyone else know it?
If not I will get it from him, and post it drekly.
Keith.


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: John P
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 08:38 AM

I have an old vinyl LP called "The Hole In the Piper's Head" by a group called Bucca. I'm afraid it's my only exposure to Cornish music. It has a song on it called "An Lader" which I know from other sources as "The Robber", an English song. Does anyone know if it started in Cornwall and got translated to English, or the other way around?

John Peekstok


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Subject: RE: CORNISH SONGS
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 09:23 AM

Hilda Fish gives a long list of singers in Cornish, but it omits Mo Keast (who was mentioned earlier in this thread by Mary Humphreys and Herga Kitty). Mo was born in Padstow, and is a cousin of Charlie Bate's. She has sung at Bodmin club for many years. She "learned her trade" under the tutelage of Charlie and Mervyn Vincent, and is now the repository of many of Charlie's songs. She also sings many songs in the Cornish language, and is a Bard of the Cornish Gorsedd; a very staunch and strong supporter of Cornwall and all things Cornish!


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