Cornish Songs

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: Hawker
Date: 25 Mar 08 - 08:30 PM

Just spent the evening singing NEW Cornish songs - rehearsing for the NEW Cornwall songwriters show 'Cornish Lads' which goes on the road at the end of May 2008. Bookings being taken now! Click this image to find out more!
Cheers, Lucy

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: GUEST,Jo W
Date: 05 Sep 08 - 11:26 AM

I saw the new cornwall songwriters show ' cornish lads' at Bideford and they were brilliant!

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: Hawker
Date: 05 Sep 08 - 07:22 PM

Thank you Jo,
It was a great show for us too, with such a receptive and responsive audience! We did it at Looe last night for Dehwelans (Cornish for Homecoming) and it rained and rained, we go home without having to swim, but there were some BIG puddles!
Cheers, Lucy
(Bal maiden!)

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: Crowdercref
Date: 06 Sep 08 - 04:21 AM

W is water the bane of the mine...

oops sorry, wrong thread.

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: GUEST,frank
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 01:03 PM

Can anyone help me ? I am seeking the words and music to the song "proper job", sung by the Holman Climax choir, thanks

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: Cats
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 11:12 PM

I've e mailed the secretary for you to find out.

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: GUEST,dizzyLisa
Date: 22 Nov 08 - 05:40 PM

I've posted a video on youTube of Mike Nicholson singing Roger Bryant's beautiful Cornish Lads with Hartley Morris Men

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BUkAxP5GysM

I don't think the hyperlink works tho !

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: GUEST,David Jones, Guest
Date: 22 Nov 08 - 10:27 PM

Does anyone have the words to Crantock Games? I think it is a Cornish song.
David Jones

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: alanabit
Date: 23 Nov 08 - 03:27 AM

Always one to be a bit of a spoilsport, I would like to make one or two comments about "The Song of the Western Men" or "Trelawney", as it is better known. It is indeed very popular in Cornwall - especially with male voice choirs. However, although it is about events in 1688, it was not written until 1824, by Robert Hawker, whom I believe, was Devonian clergyman. It has got a great tune and a rousing chorus. Undoubtedly it has been adopted with some relish by the Cornish. Now I'm not saying it is not Cornish now, but its ethnic roots could be called into question...

Subject: Lyr Add: PROPER JOB
From: Cats
Date: 23 Nov 08 - 01:18 PM

Frank I have the words for you from the secretary of the choir.

Proper Job

Is there a land where cream is cream
and where a man has time to dream?
Is there a place where peace is peace
and where the race for change can cease?
Is there a coast where cliffs are cliffs
folk never talk in buts and ifs?
Can I escape this crazy stress?
Hear the Cornish answer, 'Yes!'

Proper job! First you cross the Tamar
Proper job! Sea breeze in your face!
Devon may be touchy
Cornwall is a Duchy
Proper job! Kernow is the place

Proper job! When the Lord made Cornwall
Proper job! Granite built with grace
Charm in every corner
Launceston to Lamorna!
Proper job! Kernow is the place.

Shades of miners
Tough hand liners
mighty man born
There in Camborne
Made an engine fine and fitty
'n if you must, then down
in Truro town -
There's a city

Proper job! Take a stroll up Fore Street
Proper job! Pasty in your hand
Saffron sweet and spicy
have a bit of nicey!
Proper job! Kernow is the land.

It is credited to Richards and Dearlove

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: Hawker
Date: 23 Nov 08 - 07:29 PM

Alanabit,
Now I am sure you are not trying to mke ripples on the waters of fair Cornwall ;0)
Yes Devonian Rev Hawker was, but I believe that a person is said to be Cornish if Born there, well if this were true for songs, the song was penned in the county of Cornwall - granted the father (writer) was a devonian, but definately a song of cornish inspiration! LOL
Cheers, Lucy

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: GUEST,John from Elsie`s Band
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 09:52 AM

Davy Jones Guest,
                "Crantock Games" is one of the songs from our repertoire and I have an mp3 recording on the computer of Tony and Iris doing it. If you could tell me in words of one syllable how to do it I will willingly put it in this thread.

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: GUEST,Cornish
Date: 09 Jan 09 - 11:48 AM

I am terribly sorry to have to correct you but that would be Cornish not English

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: greg stephens
Date: 09 Jan 09 - 12:26 PM

???

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: breezy
Date: 09 Jan 09 - 01:36 PM

there'll be a Breeze in yer face alright

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: GUEST,frank
Date: 25 Jan 09 - 07:17 AM

Dear alanabit,
I`m sure you are right about the reverend Walker, but the words of the song ar "Theres twenty thousand CORNISHMEN will know the reason why", I think he meant it to be a cornish song, don`t you?

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: GUEST,doc.tom
Date: 25 Jan 09 - 07:21 AM

Or even CORNISH BOLD - depends which choir!

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Mar 09 - 10:44 AM

Actually Hawker did NOT write the original:

"Except for the refrain, the exact original words of the song are lost. Those given here are based on a 'restoration' written (c.1835) by the Rev. R.S. Hawker, of Whitstone, near Stratton, who died in 1875. In 1688, the Trelawney Song is said to have resounded in every house, in every highway, and in every street in Cornwall."

This comes from the Cornish Song Book, 1929, along with three versions of the song, one in Cornish language written by Henry Jenner.

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Dec 09 - 03:37 PM

Cornish Alfabet was song by Brenda Wootton on one of her LP's

lovely lady I had the pleasure of knowing
sadly missed

gerry

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: open mike
Date: 18 Dec 09 - 12:49 PM

I caught this t.v. show on PBS recently. apparently filmed in 2004
it is of a Cornish choir, descendants of miners who worked the gold
mines in California. Huell Howser is a t.v. reporter who has a series
on california

http://www.calgold.com/calgold/Default.asp?Series=Specials&Show=788

CORNISH CHRISTMAS

In this holiday special, Huell celebrates the holidays with the descendants of the original Cornish Carol Choir of Grass Valley. Join them as they reenact their 1940 concert of traditional Cornish Christmas Carols, which took place 2,000 feet below ground in a gold mine, and was broadcast nationally on network radio.

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: GUEST,Sue White
Date: 26 Sep 10 - 11:18 AM

Hi folks! I am alive and well and still singing!
Lots of Cornish songs, as well as Irish
and Scottish.
Music available from www.kesson.com
+ new website,
http://sites.google.com/site/suewhittonytaylor
Old website:-
www.cornishsinger.com

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: GUEST,Sue White
Date: 26 Sep 10 - 12:29 PM

Sorry! Can't type on my i-phone.

New website is

http://sites.google.com/site/suewhitetonytaylor

Regards, everyone.

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: GUEST,Sue White
Date: 26 Sep 10 - 12:42 PM

I have just read through this thread, and have really enjoyed it all.

I have used the Baring Gould Book "Songs of the West" - and another book given to me by Jack Spurr, a Cornishman from Calstock way, "Cornish Ditties" I think it was called - for years, and based many of the songs on my CD "Best of Cornish Folksongs" from material in that book. Like Phil Beer I have used song books like that to sing from, since childhood. In my childhood it was family gatherings on a Friday night, and always with guitars, whistles and lots of humour (I was born in 1953 too Phil!)- in my native county of Essex.

Arscot of Tetcott was a song I found in "The Songs of the West", and which I also recorded and put on CD in the early 90s. So I did it a while before Jim C. (but a very modern take on it - not very folkie)

Another source for me was the singing of the Male Voice Choirs. Those lads are a mine of information on all songs Cornish.
I loved my time living in Cornwall (from 1978 until 1996) and am still trying to escape Devon and get back!

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: I don't know
Date: 27 Sep 10 - 06:20 AM

Just seen this thread & was pleased to see people asking about Brenda Wooton. A lovely lady who sung not only with John the Fish but with Mike Silver. I saw her with Mike in 1976 at the Applegate folk club in Castle Hedingham. Essex. Only my second folk night. My husband had been to her home in Cornwall when Jasper Carrot had been at a club night & they all went back for supper, he said Jasper never spoke a word except please & thank you & didn't even join in the sing a round. The only album we have of hers is Cornish songs of the sea. If there are others may be someone can let us know & we can maybe get copies.

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: GUEST,Ian Cook
Date: 17 Oct 10 - 07:10 PM

@ Sue White

Did the Jack Spurr who gave you the book used to run a guest house in Wadebridge?

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 18 Oct 10 - 11:10 AM

There's a Wikipedia page for Brenda Wootton, with this discography:

    * Piper's Folk with John the Fish & Piper's Folk, (Private pressing, produced & distributed by Piper's Folk), 1968
    * Pasties & Cream with John the Fish, Sentinel Records, SENS 1006, 1971
    * Way Down to Lamorna, Sentinel, SENS 1056, 1972
    * Crowdy Crawn with Richard Gendall, Sentinel, SENS 1016, 1973
    * Pamplemousse, with Robert Bartlett, Barclay (French label), 1973
    * No Song To Sing, with Robert Bartlett and "guest" Alex Atterson on piano - Sentinel, SENS 1021, 1974
    * Tin In The Stream, with Robert Bartlett, Stockfisch (German label), 1974 (voted West Germany's folk album of the year)
    * Starry Gazey Pie, with Robert Bartlett, Sentinel, SENS 1031, 1975
    * Children Singing, with Richard Gendall, Sentinel, SENS 1036, 1976
    * Carillon, Transatlantic Records, TRA 360, 1979
    * Boy Jan ... Cornishman, with David Penhale (voice, guitar & bouzouki) and Richard Gendall (composer), Burlington Records, BURL 005, 1980[3]
    * La Grande Cornouaillaise, Burlington Records, BURL 007, 1980
    * Gwavas Lake, with The Four Lanes Male Choir, Burlington Records, BURL 008, 1980
    * Lyonesse, RCA, PL 70299, 1982
    * My Land, RCA, PL 70234, 1983
    * B Comme Brenda, Disc'AZ (French label), AZ 494, 1985
    * The Voice of Cornwall, Keltia Music KMCD67, 1996

~ Becky in Tucson

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: John Foxen
Date: 18 Oct 10 - 01:58 PM

The wonderful Brenda Wootton used to sing a song about a nasty character who got his comeuppance. It had a chorus that I remember (probably badly) as: "Serve you right you wicked old man - the devil catch you if he can." Can anyone come up with the title/lyrics/tune?

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: GUEST,Frank Siegle
Date: 25 Feb 11 - 12:16 AM

Does anyone have "Three Knights" ("Tri Marghack") with Cornish lyrics. Or does anyone know where it might be attained. I have the English, but I also sing in Cornish (and the other Celtic languages) and would very much like to sing the song in Cornish.

Thanks.

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: scouse
Date: 25 Feb 11 - 05:28 AM

A great Cornish Song.....


                         Egloshale Ringers.

Come all you ringers good and bold,come listen to my peel,
I'll tell you of five Ringers brave that lived in Egloshale,
They bear the sway in any array,where ever they chance to go,
Good music of melodious Bells is their delight to show.

The foreman gives the signal,he steps along with toe,
He casts his eye about them all and gives them sign to go,
Away they pull with courage full,the heart it doth revive,
To hear them swing and music bring,one,two three,four and five.

Theirs Craddock the Corwainer first that rings the treble Bell,
The second is John Ellery and none may him excel,
The third is Thomas Carpenter,the forth is Thomas Cleave,
Goodfellow is the tenorman that rings them round so brave.

They went up to Lanlivery they brought away the prize,
And then they went to San Turdy and there they did likewise,
There's Stattenmen,Saint Maybenmen,Saint Issy and Saint Kew,
But the five lads of Egloshale did all the rest outdo.

Now to conclude my merry task,the Sovereigns health we'll join,
Stand every man I'll pass the flask and drink his health in wine,
And here's to Craddock,Ellery and here's to Thomas Cleave,
To Pollack and the Tenorman that rings them round so brave.


As Aye,

Phil.

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: Cats
Date: 25 Feb 11 - 09:05 AM

St Tudy not San Turdy
St Mabyn Men not Saint Maybeenmen
Stratton Men not Stattenmen
and lastly it's Egloshayle

Hope this helps

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: Hawker
Date: 25 Feb 11 - 10:20 AM

LOVE IT!!!!!
San TURDY!!!!
ROFL

Subject: Recording Cornish Songs
From: GUEST,Lanreath Film and Recording Studio
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 12:22 PM

Hi all,

I'm not Cornish, but have lived in Cornwall for five years now. Sang folk all my life, and now sing Cornish folk songs and love them. Having recently retired as an International Filmmaker I now have a small and private film and recording studio at my home near Looe.

Anyone wanting to record folk songs, or any other songs for that matter, check out my website and get in touch - www.lanreathstudio.co.uk

Subject: RE: Corniish Kitchen
From: GUEST,Terry
Date: 05 Sep 19 - 04:39 AM

To Marion,
You posted a note to Pete on 14th June 04
saying you could put the abc of the tune if anyone’s interested, I am part of a group that meets and sings traditional Cornish songs and would very much like to get the tune
Many Thanks
Terry

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: Telvis
Date: 06 Sep 19 - 04:55 AM

Does anyone have the tune to In a Cornish Kitchen, I believe Marion in Cornwall may have it from a post dated 14 June 04

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: Telvis
Date: 18 Sep 19 - 07:17 AM

Hi Marion,
Do you have the music for ‘Cornish Kitchen

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: GUEST,Denzil John Asche
Date: 21 Jan 22 - 05:48 PM

I was told it had been translated into Cornish from Breton.

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Jan 22 - 12:15 PM

Shining down on Sennen (Martyn Wyndham-Read & Iris Bishop)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUdf3qCdC8A

Subject: RE: Cornish Songs
From: Lurcherman
Date: 24 Jan 22 - 01:09 PM

Hi, for those who are interested in Cornish songs it’s worth looking for the songs of Harry Glasson which includes Cornwall my Home, sung at every gathering of Cornish folk and pub session.