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Chords Req: 1952 Vincent Black Lightning

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Subject: Chordsfor 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: Francy
Date: 01 Dec 01 - 10:46 PM

Been listening to Dick Gaughan's, Del McCoury's and author Ruchard Thompson's versions...Still having difficulty..Does anyone have the chords...Would sure appreciate it.....Frank of Toledo


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Chordsfor 1952 Vincent Black
From: Sorcha
Date: 01 Dec 01 - 10:48 PM

Tab here. Hope that helps.


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Subject: RE: Req: Chords for 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: Francy
Date: 01 Dec 01 - 11:12 PM

Thanks so much.....now i can stay up half the night and work on it............Frank oof Toledo


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Subject: RE: Req: Chords for 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: GUEST,truckerdave
Date: 02 Dec 01 - 03:46 PM

Where did this alternate tuning come from? It sounds just fine to me in standard tuning capoed up to 3rd fret using the chord changes in the tab link. I learned it off Richard Thompson's CD. It ain't an easy one to learn either, there's some serious fingering going on there. Love that song.


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Subject: RE: Req: Chords for 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: Francy
Date: 02 Dec 01 - 06:59 PM

Like you, I used standard tuning but did it in Ab, better for my voice....I found it a difficult song to sing. I kept switching from Richard Thompson to Dick Gaughan and then to Del McCoury.....I don't pay a lot of attention to the picking as that's not my strength; just the melody and great lyrics......Still working on it but am getting more comfortable with each practice....

Frank of Toledo


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Subject: RE: Req: Chords for 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: Sorcha
Date: 02 Dec 01 - 07:05 PM

I can go look for something else if you would like?


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Subject: RE: Req: Chords for 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: Sorcha
Date: 02 Dec 01 - 07:28 PM

Went and got the others just for kicks and giggles. Here they are:

Black Lighting tab 2 capo 3rd fret

chords only, standard tuning I think....
One of those ought to work........


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Subject: RE: Req: Chords for 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 02 Dec 01 - 10:43 PM

Ummm... Richrd Thompson recorded V.B.L. in DADGAD, capoed 7th fret...

If I can find the site that transposed it that way, I'll come back and post it...

;-)


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Subject: RE: Req: Chords for 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: Sorcha
Date: 02 Dec 01 - 11:00 PM

Do that, Clinton. I'll look for it. I ain't found it yet. Transpose and capo. Whatever.


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Subject: RE: Req: Chords for 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 02 Dec 01 - 11:28 PM

ya know what... I might not have read it... I might have heard him talking about it in an interview somewhere?!?!?!

I'll be sure to update this thread when (and if) I remember...

I know it works really well in DADGAD, capo'd 7th...

;-)


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Subject: RE: Req: Chords for 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: Trevor
Date: 03 Dec 01 - 06:23 AM

Something I've always wondered with this song, how come he gave her the keys? Vincents didn't have coil ignition.

Cheers,

Trevor (ex Black Shadow owner and Vincent nurd)


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Subject: RE: Req: Chords for 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: GUEST,AKRick
Date: 03 Dec 01 - 07:25 AM

I have videos of RT playing this tune. It is tuned CGDGBD and capo'd at the third fret.


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Subject: RE: Req: Chords for 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Dec 01 - 07:50 AM

Can't be any help on chords, etc., but whilst Trevor is absolutely correct in his observation that strictly speaking the Vincent Black Lightning wouldn't have had a key...it takes nothing whatsoever away from what is by miles the only decent song which has ever been written to include a motorcycle. It's a proper 20th century ballad in which the Vincent Black Lightning achieves mythical status (as indeed it does amongst motorcyclists), a fact that RT himself acknowledged in a BBC radio interview at the time of the release of Rumour and Sigh...by the way he also said that he knew there was no key but for the purposes of the song and narrative gave the 'bike this 'late extra'. Interesting that RT attended the memorial to one Dick Busby, the man who built the gorgeous bike featured in the picture on R and S...he clearly bothered to find out about these motorcycles and I think VBL1952 remains his most requested concert song. You might have guessed that I too am fortunate to own a Vincent motorcycle...it does not disappoint.


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Subject: RE: Req: Chords for 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: Whistle Stop
Date: 03 Dec 01 - 12:57 PM

AK Rick is right about the tuning and capo position; it's not DADGAD. I worked it out that way from the record, then later read an interview with RT in which he confirmed this tuning and capo position.

Still, it's always better (IMHO) to come up with your own approach, rather than just duplicate what the other guy did. If DADGAD with a capo at VII works for you, then that's how you should play it.


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Subject: RE: Req: Chords for 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: Ditchdweller
Date: 03 Dec 01 - 01:44 PM

HRD Vincent Black Lighning? Knocks spots of a Harley!! BTW, apparently the Vincent V twins originated when one of the draughtsmen at HRD dropped a tracing of the Comet 500cc single on top of the drawing he had just copied it from and said "Oh! What if......" The rest is history!


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Subject: RE: Req: Chords for 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 03 Dec 01 - 02:05 PM

Maybe I dreamed it eh! LOL!!!!!!

On the subject of song and bikes... while VBL 1952 is indeed a way cool song, my personal fav is still, "Too Old To Rock And Roll: Too Young To Die"...

Even if it is just a Harley


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Subject: RE: Req: Chords for 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 03 Dec 01 - 02:07 PM

Oh ya... maybe it was the keys to the locks he chained it up with???

;-)


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Subject: RE: Req: Chords for 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: lamarca
Date: 03 Dec 01 - 02:48 PM

My friend Pete and I have this argument about whether the opening riff for this great song is more like Mississippi John Hurt's "Stagolee" or a Furry Lewis piece - "Casey Jones", maybe? Any of you edjercated blues guitarists got any opinions on this one?

(This is just a fun BS argument between the two of us - we're both big RT fans...)


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Subject: RE: Req: Chords for 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: Trevor
Date: 04 Dec 01 - 05:12 AM

Yes Guest, I'd drink to that.

I had a Comet as well, with a chair on! I remember seeing a picture in an old VOC magazine of a Comet trials outfit and always wanted to do that with mine.

Incidentally, I hate the song 'Vincent' (avoiding too much thread creep!)


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Subject: RE: Req: Chords for 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: Ringer
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 09:27 AM

I notice that Mike Harding is going to play The Del McCoury Band's version tonight (9 Jan) on his show on BBC Radio 2 at 8.00pm, GMT.


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Subject: RE: Req: Chords for 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: GUEST,Fritz
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 11:24 AM

If there is any continuing controversy regarding RT's alternate tuning for VBL, let me add that I saw RT from the 6th row, right in front of g*d, and watched very carefully as RT retuned his guitar to the tuning as shown on Sorcha's tab offering. I can personally guarantee that this tuning is correct, or at least it was that night last October.


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Subject: RE: Req: Chords for 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: breezy
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 04:47 PM

Heard it on fo2 but then I had to turn off R.B's, version of Beeswing


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Subject: RE: Req: Chords for 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: GUEST,frankie
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 10:08 PM

I'm not all that edjercated, lamarca but that riff sounds similar to the one Martin Carthy used in "The Bonnie Lass of Anglesey (sp?)" and they both are reminiscent of some old Cajun fiddle tune ringing around in my skull. f


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Subject: RE: Chords Req: 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: Angrybean
Date: 05 Feb 11 - 04:43 PM

Hi,

I have recorded this on youtube. A very simple version using G/C/D and Am.

Vincent Black Lightning

Thanks.

Ang


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Subject: RE: Chords Req: 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: Amos
Date: 05 Feb 11 - 06:19 PM

IF you're playing it in G formation, at a "C" note (B string on first fret) to the opening chord (let it go on "...James".) It provides the diissonance that RT uses in open tuning. I do not know what this would be called, technically.

Here's a rough example from last Getaway.


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Subject: RE: Chords Req: 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: Angrybean
Date: 05 Feb 11 - 07:42 PM

That was a great version, Amos.

Lot better than me.

I need to attack it more I guess.

Still great song to play even if badly. LOL.


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Subject: RE: Chords Req: 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
From: JohnB
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 12:53 AM

REALLY nice version from the man himself here with a spoken intro.
Should link to several other versions too. If you play a few, you will see he changes the solo's around quite a bit too, as well as some of the bike names.
JohnB


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