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blue clicky test thread: HTML Practice

Dead Horse 02 Dec 01 - 05:49 AM
Gareth 02 Dec 01 - 06:44 AM
Gareth 02 Dec 01 - 06:46 AM
Joe Offer 02 Dec 01 - 11:36 AM
Sorcha 02 Dec 01 - 11:50 AM
Joe Offer 02 Dec 01 - 12:02 PM
Noreen 02 Dec 01 - 03:56 PM
Steve in Idaho 02 Dec 01 - 05:58 PM
Steve in Idaho 03 Dec 01 - 10:35 AM
Steve in Idaho 03 Dec 01 - 10:36 AM
Steve in Idaho 03 Dec 01 - 10:38 AM
CarolC 03 Dec 01 - 01:44 PM
JohnInKansas 03 Dec 01 - 01:56 PM
Mary in Kentucky 03 Dec 01 - 02:20 PM
Mary in Kentucky 03 Dec 01 - 02:22 PM
Steve in Idaho 03 Dec 01 - 03:29 PM
Noreen 03 Dec 01 - 06:17 PM
Cappuccino 03 Dec 01 - 06:30 PM
Chip2447 03 Dec 01 - 11:51 PM
John MacKenzie 04 Dec 01 - 03:11 PM
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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread
From: Dead Horse
Date: 02 Dec 01 - 05:49 AM



CLICKY
You were missing the closing quote marks within the link. I suggest omitting quotes within links completely.
-Joe Offer-

Please feel free to use "practice" threads to get the hang of HTML. We clean these threads out occasionally to allow space for more practice, but we keep the most interesting successes (or failures). You can practice in any thread by using the 'preview" function.


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread
From: Gareth
Date: 02 Dec 01 - 06:44 AM

CLICK 'ERE


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread
From: Gareth
Date: 02 Dec 01 - 06:46 AM

Sorry Deadhorse - but I was curious

Gareth


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Dec 01 - 11:36 AM

For links within Mudcat, Try:
<a href=/thread.cfm?threadid=XXX>(click here)</a>

<a href="http://www.mudcat.org">Click here</a>

<a href="mailto:joe@mudcat.org">Click to e-mail</a>



If you're posting links at Mudcat, the quotation marks are optional. I prefer not to use them, because they complicate the task of making links. Simple is better, I think. Fewer misteaks.
To explain the colors:
  • The black part is the standard, required part of every link.
  • The red part is the Target URL (address) where you want the link to take people to. Unless the URL leads to another page on the current Website, it must include the full address that's in the address bar of your browser, including the http://. This may be enclosed in quotation marks, but the quotation marks are optional.
  • The blue part is the reference word (that's what the "ref" refers to). This word can be anything, or it can be the target URL repeated, if that adds to clarity.
I find it's best to open a new browser window [CTRL-N] and navigate your way to the site you want to link to. Highlight and copy [CTRL-C] the URL (address) of the site, and then go back to your Mudcat message and paste [CTRL-V] the URL into your link. Be sure to include the http:// in that URL. The quotation marks are standard procedure, but most links work just fine without quotation marks.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread
From: Sorcha
Date: 02 Dec 01 - 11:50 AM

Got it, Joe. Thanks.


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Dec 01 - 12:02 PM

poifikt!


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread
From: Noreen
Date: 02 Dec 01 - 03:56 PM

Jock, you need to put http:// before your www (That simple!) or it thinks it's looking for a page on mudcat.


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 02 Dec 01 - 05:58 PM

I've read that stupid forum/faq so many times it made my eyes go bonkers - Not a clue why it Clicked with me this time - add it to the italics I can now do -

Eternally Grateful

I think

Steve


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 03 Dec 01 - 10:35 AM

(Answered my own question)


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 03 Dec 01 - 10:36 AM

well poop guess not


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 03 Dec 01 - 10:38 AM

(Answered my own question)

Maybe this time??

Steve - Who if this works is feeling so darn cocky :-)


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread
From: CarolC
Date: 03 Dec 01 - 01:44 PM

Steve, you probably can't count on things working the same in your e-mail system as here in the Mudcat, but you can send practice HTML in a PM to yourself. I do it all the time when I want to see how it's going to look before I post it.


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 03 Dec 01 - 01:56 PM

If you save something from Word or any other word processor as "TEXT ONLY" and put a file extension ".htm" on the file (either when you save it - or rename it later) a double click on the file in Windows Explorer should open it in your internet program (IE or Netscape).

No need to even be connected to the net.

We do enjoy looking at what people are trying to do though.

John


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 03 Dec 01 - 02:20 PM

I need to try an internal blue clicky. Joe says we should use them to link to mudcat without specifying a particular server.

click here


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 03 Dec 01 - 02:22 PM

Yay! It worked!

Question: Do I have to have the slash mark (/) after the first quotes?


Answer: No.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 03 Dec 01 - 03:29 PM

Carol - That last clicky was to the thread that told me the same thing as you did. My e-mail does it for me. I'm just so tickled!!

Now to resist the urge to over use them - heh heh heh -

Steve

PS - (No not PMS) I'm glad we are a source of amusement to others here! It is especially fun that you old hands are watching us kids grow and develop with a smile in your eye!!


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread
From: Noreen
Date: 03 Dec 01 - 06:17 PM

Not so old, just a bit more experienced! *wink*

(Nice site, Ian B- looks really good.)


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread
From: Cappuccino
Date: 03 Dec 01 - 06:30 PM

Thank you, Noreen... getting a bit cluttered, and I promise myself I'll tidy it up soon!

- Ian


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread
From: Chip2447
Date: 03 Dec 01 - 11:51 PM

Click here


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Dec 01 - 03:11 PM

Earwig oh again!!

Good UK radio site
Please!!!!!!!!!!!11
Jock


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Dec 01 - 03:20 PM

Whoopee *BG* Thank-you Noreen, I luvs ya baby!!
Failte.....Jock
< href=http://recipes.alastra.com> YUM YUM


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Dec 01 - 03:24 PM

YUM YUM
Whoops got over confident there.
Jock


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Dec 01 - 03:30 PM

For some reason when I go to this site from my favourites menu, it doesn't have a www prefix, so I'll try again.
Just maybe!!


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread
From: Noreen
Date: 04 Dec 01 - 04:00 PM

OK, I'll have Steamed Golden Sponge Pudding right now, and can I order Almond Praline Cheesecake for tomorrow please? Since you're so grateful an' all...

(I do like a man who can cook...)


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread: HTML Practice
From: robinia
Date: 05 Dec 01 - 06:05 AM

Let's see if I can do this link to LinkText


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread: HTML Practice
From: robinia
Date: 05 Dec 01 - 06:15 AM

Oops, wrong link, I guess it does need the repeat info, like this: http://www.reenchantmentofsex.com/


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread: HTML Practice
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 05 Dec 01 - 02:37 PM

You're obviously on the same diet as myself Noreen!!
Yes I like cooking.
Rotundly yours
Jock


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread: HTML Practice
From: mayomick
Date: 17 Nov 10 - 01:42 PM

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/nov2010/dsop-n17.shtml


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread: HTML Practice
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Nov 10 - 07:02 PM

By Jove, I think you've got it, Mick!


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread: HTML Practice
From: andrew e
Date: 17 Nov 10 - 07:39 PM

Maybe someone can help me with this.

What does cut and paste mean?

I tried copy and paste but that doesn't work!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp_RHnQ-jgU&feature=player_embedded


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread: HTML Practice
From: andrew e
Date: 17 Nov 10 - 07:41 PM

OK so it did work.

Sure didn't look like it was going to!


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread: HTML Practice
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Nov 10 - 02:44 PM

"Cut and paste" means you cut something out of somewhere and paste it in another location. Generally, you wouldn't be doing that, unless you're editing a word processing document - you usually copy and paste.

The process:
  • Highlight the text you want
           [CTRL-A] will highlight everything on a page. To highlight only part, use your "shift" and arrow keys, or hold down your left mouse button and move it across the part you want to copy. The highlighted text will change color.
  • Copy the text [CTRL-C]
  • Paste the text where you want [CTRL-V]


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread: HTML Practice
From: shipcmo
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 02:58 PM

BBC


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread: HTML Practice
From: Anne Neilson
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 03:13 PM

balladworkshop


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread: HTML Practice
From: Anne Neilson
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 03:15 PM

Oh, me of little faith -- it worked!
Thank you, Joe, for the clarity of your example!!! (I feel absurdly pleased, as if I deserve a certificate.)



awards

EKanne



Our official

Blue Clicky Certificate


Joe Offer, Moderator


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread: HTML Practice
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 06:02 PM

I just posted the following in another vaguely related thread, but it might be more useful here.

For those who might be interested in doing it "the right way" in html, the latest Unicode Character Charts are downloadable at http;//www.unicode.org/Public/6.0.0/charts/

What you're most like to want, is the CodeCharts.pdf

BE WARNED!!!!

The charts are in a SINGLE pdf document with 1,923 pages. The download shows it at 74.5MB and Windows shows it saved as 77,033 KB.

Download it when you have time to wait for it to finish.

The PDF is "searchable" and of course all the chars have descriptive names so you have a fair-to-remote chance of finding something you're looking for by searching for something that might be "descriptive."

A search for "music" finds only about a half dozen chars, mostly as "musical symbol xxx" unless you're into Balinese music where you'll find quite a few more. I'm hard put to think where I'd use a BALINESE MUSICAL SYMBOL DONG, SYMBOL DENG, SYMBOL DUNG, (maybe a SYMBOL DANG), DANG SURANG, DING, DAENG, DEUNG, DAING, or DANG GEDE, or even a RIGHT-HAND OPEN DUG, RIGHT-HAND OPEN DAG, RIGHT-HAND CLOSED TUK, RIGHT-HAND CLOSED TAK, LEFT-HAND OPEN PANG, LEFT-HAND OPEN PUNG, LEFT-HAND CLOSED PLAK, LEFT-HAND CLOSED PLUK, or even a LEFT-HAND OPEN PING, but they're all there. I do recall a banjo player who sounded like he might be using some of them.

Musical symbols Found that I recognize are limited to:

(Hex codes at left)

2669     ♩     QUARTER NOTE = crotchet

266A     ♪     EIGHTH NOTE = quaver

266B     ♫     BEAMED EIGHTH NOTES = beamed quavers

266C     ♬     BEAMED SIXTEENTH NOTES = beamed semiquavers

266D     ♭     MUSIC FLAT SIGN

266E     ♮     MUSIC NATURAL SIGN

266F     ♯     MUSIC SHARP SIGN

John


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread: HTML Practice
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Jan 11 - 03:17 PM

Is there a hemidemisemiquaver symbol, John?


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread: HTML Practice
From: Anne Neilson
Date: 05 Jan 11 - 04:08 PM

To Moderator Joe,
I shall cherish my certificate (and bore my friends by boasting of my prowess!).

Many thanks.


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread: HTML Practice
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 05 Jan 11 - 05:37 PM

Joe -

The Unicode download is supposed to be a complete list of the characters that have been defined.

The PDF responds to searching, and although sometimes the search function doesn't find all the possible results in pdf documents (due to "broken" OCR - failure to identify all the dots as being characters) this one seems to be clean enough to expect good results.

I searched for "music" and the results indicated that it found every instance where music was a whole word or part of a word like "musical."

The character names for all of the music notation characters that the search found included "Musical symbol for ..." so the search probably found all of the "note types."

The ones I posted should be the only ones that are defined by the standard.

The Unicode Standard specifically provides vast ranges of "undefined" character numbers so that specialized fonts can assign glyphs chosen by the "designer" to the "reserved numbers," but it appears that anyone who wants to write music is required to install a "music font" that can't technically be a "Unicode" font, but can use "available Unicode numbers."

Some of the known music fonts use "composite glyphs" so that you can insert a couple of (quarter) notes and then add the bars to join them, and you can add "as many bars as you want." For a single isolated note you just add "flags" instead of "bars."

Some languages use lots of composite glyphs in similar fashion, and the Unicode Standard defines bunches of "inflection marks" for doing that. Computers "regionalized" for Western European or US use seldom include the font handling capabilities required for "compositing" glyphs so it's rather difficult to use the composite forms. It's usual for installed fonts intended for our machines to include additional "inflected chars" in the font tables, and when this is done the only problem left is that you run out of keys on the keyboard to type them with.

A few of the music fonts that you can install do use the unassigned Unicode character numbers properly; but the majority of "free download" ones mostly just replace a common character glyph with a musical one, using the same ASCII/ANSI number range as for your simple text fonts to map them to the font pages the computer actually reads from to pick them as needed.

Apparently the Unicode people don't really consider Music to be a Language. The "note glyphs" that are defined are not really usable for writing music, but are defined so you can write about music in limited ways.

Actual music scores are still best handled as "graphic objects" in the same way that you insert other pictures, for most document work. They don't generally work as "text" parts of a document, even if you can create them using "textish" methods in notation programs.

John


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread: HTML Practice
From: mayomick
Date: 09 Jan 11 - 06:11 PM

hhttp://www.grist.org/article/food-2010-12-10-leaked-documents-show-epa-allowed-bee-toxic-pesticide-
.


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread: HTML Practice
From: Joe Offer
Date: 09 Jan 11 - 06:41 PM

All that being said, John, can you make a hemidemisemiquaver and post it here for us? Now, if you can't, I'm sure that Bill D can [grin].

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread: HTML Practice
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Jan 11 - 07:18 PM

hmmmppff.... maybe I can, and maybe I can't. I don't want to give away ALL my secrets.............
♪║╘╤╝ ♫... (that's how it's done in reverse Coptic notation)


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread: HTML Practice
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 09 Jan 11 - 08:33 PM

Sure Joe, but what good does it do when posting a "musical note" in in-line text is of no help toward posting a tune.

If really needed, any number of us could likely find a character icon representation of a "limp dick lackamuckala" but you'd probably be the only one who'd play with it and it would be useless to the rest of us. (And you'd have to tell us what one looks like, I suppose.)

There are no musical symbols in Unicode, including the note characters, that are of any practical use for posting a musical score. The few included are in there only so that people can insert them into in-line text in order to talk about the terms they represent.

Any character that's not a Unicode character requires an additional font that both the person posting and the person reading the post must have on their individual computers.

I can see many of the "cute" symbols that Bill D posts, since I have over 450 TrueType fonts and around 100 others on my machine, including several music fonts from scoring programs; but lots of others probably won't be able to "read" them.

The real limitation for our people here, and something that would significantly clean up some of what people do by "kludge"**1 methods, is the absence of an "array" function in the Unicode Standards, since it would permit "book form" posting of lyrics with chords.

**1 Note that I've used the UK form "kludge" (rhymes with fudge) that's a generally derogatory description of a way of doing something badly by using the wrong methods and equipment. This is not to be confused with the US form "kluge" (rhymes with huge) that describes converting methods and equipment intended for other uses to exactly and elegantly obtain the intended result.

So far as I've found, there is no "array" function in Unicode, or it was so complex that I've forgotten where I saw it.

Although you can use tables to put chords over words with reasonable alignment, that's an incredibly cumbersome method.

People use a variety of methods of writing a lyric with chords in-line or raised above the line before or after the word (or the initial character of the word) where a particular chord begins, but the variation in methods forces those who prefer a different method to "study" the posts to see exactly what is intended, and it's difficult to guess what handling might be used if the chord changes within a syllable.

You can also use a monospaced font and the <pre> tag, but it takes considerable trial and error to control the built-in line breaks before and after the post. I normally would use that method and suppress my inclination to want it to "look nice," but it's not wholly satisfying.

If you copy the appropriate bits that follow into Word and follow the keystrokes you should see what I mean. You may have to type the F6 and G7 rather than pasting since I used html coding for the post here:

In Word, where an array function is defined, I can type:

"eq \a \al (F6,Chest-nuts )" – omit the quotes – and then highlight the whole string and hit Ctl-F9. The F9 puts what was highlighted between a pair of slightly "funny" but very special "{ }" curly braces. With the cursor "in the braces" when I hit F9 again I get "Chest-nuts" with the F6 chord directly above the C.

Repeat for the next chord:

eq \a \al (G7,roast-ing on an )

- - etc, &etc for "The Christmas Song" in the "standard" form recognized by just about everybody who plays.


F6       G7
Chestnuts Roasting on an ...

It gets really easy when you've done a few dozen lyric sheets in Word. All you need to remember is that you're using an "equation field" – the "eq" - with type "array" – the "\a" - with entries "aligned left" – the "\al." Put the chord first and then the lyric that goes with that chord, separated by a comma, in parentheses. Highlight and Ctl-F9 to actually turn it into a field, and F9 to "show the value of the field."

I usually "Ctl-F9" first and then type rest of it inside the braces, but it works either way.

I include the method here since it may be useful to someone who wants to type and print lyric sheets "at home" that look great. It doesn't work in html, or at least I haven't found a way to work it.

John


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread: HTML Practice
From: shipcmo
Date: 07 Mar 11 - 07:32 AM

A Wet Sheet and a Flowing

Sea

A-Rovin (I)
A-Rovin (II)
Aboard the Kangaroo
Across the Western Ocean
Adieu Sweet Lovely Nancy
The Alabama
All Through the Rain and Squally Weather
Bangidero
Blow Boys, Blow
Blow Boys, Blow(II)
Blow a Man Down
Blow the Man Down
The Bold Princess Royal
The Bold Princess Royal (II)
The Bold Princess Royal (III)
Boney
Bound to Go
Come Down You Bunch Of Roses
Congo River
Donkey Riding
Doodle Let Me Go
The Dreadnaught
The Ebeneezer
Fire Down Below
Gimme de Banjo
The Handy Barque

the Campanero

Hanging Johnny
The Harp Without The

Crown

Haul Away Joe
Haul Away Joe (II)
Haul on the Bowline
Hello, Somebody
Hoist Away Your

Topsails

Island Farewell
The Island Lass
John Damaray
Johnny Boker
Lady Franklin's Lament
Leave Her Johnny
Leaving of Liverpool
Let Go the Reef Tackle
Liverpool Judies
Lower the Yawlboat Down
Maggie May
Maid of Australia
Nancy Rhee
New York Girls
Paddy Doyle
Paddy Get Back
Paddy West
Paddy West
Ranzo
Rio Grande
Rio Grande (II)
Roll the Cotton Down (I)
Roll the Cotton Down (II)
Roll the Cotton Down
Roll the Old Chariot Along
Rolling Home
Rolling Home (II)
Sacremento
Sally Brown
Sally Brown (II)
Santy Anna
Shake Her Up
Shallo Brown
Shenandoah
Shiney-O
South Australia
South Australia (II)
Stately Southerner
Stately Southerner (II)
Big Stone Jar
We'll Go To Sea No More
We're All Bound To Go
Whiskey Johnny
Whiskey Johnny (II)
Whiskey O


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Subject: RE: blue clicky test thread: HTML Practice
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 06 Jan 12 - 06:46 PM

<< Tu as tué mon canard blanc.


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