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GUEST,BigDaddy 04 Dec 01 - 02:26 PM
Whistle Stop 04 Dec 01 - 02:34 PM
Joe Offer 04 Dec 01 - 02:57 PM
Dicho (Frank Staplin) 04 Dec 01 - 02:59 PM
catspaw49 04 Dec 01 - 03:14 PM
McGrath of Harlow 04 Dec 01 - 03:16 PM
Hollowfox 04 Dec 01 - 03:32 PM
Bert 04 Dec 01 - 03:58 PM
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GUEST,mgarvey@pacifier.com 04 Dec 01 - 08:35 PM
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ddw 04 Dec 01 - 11:25 PM
GUEST,BigDaddy 04 Dec 01 - 11:55 PM
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A Wandering Minstrel 05 Dec 01 - 09:10 AM
Skipjack K8 05 Dec 01 - 09:17 AM
Sorcha 05 Dec 01 - 10:20 AM
Bert 05 Dec 01 - 10:28 AM
mooman 05 Dec 01 - 10:28 AM
artbrooks 05 Dec 01 - 12:20 PM
Jim Dixon 05 Dec 01 - 01:33 PM
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Subject: Banished words list
From: GUEST,BigDaddy
Date: 04 Dec 01 - 02:26 PM

One of those sites I always meant to visit and finally got around to it... clicky


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: Whistle Stop
Date: 04 Dec 01 - 02:34 PM

To what country are these words being banished?


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Dec 01 - 02:57 PM

I think they all got banished here to California. The list is so juicy, I had a hard time picking my favorite. Maybe I'll pick one favorite a day. For today, it's
"Estates" in the Names for Mobile Home Parks

For tomorrow, I'm picking "I'm 150 percent behind you." For Thursday, "Multidisciplinary Current Awareness Product." I added this inspirational site to the Links page.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 04 Dec 01 - 02:59 PM

Proactive. A weasel word. Not active with regard to something; just looking favorably on the possibility of doing something.


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Dec 01 - 03:14 PM

Well, ya' know, at this point in time, I would posit, vocabularywise, that we find the bottom line and stay cool with it. Have a nice day!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Dec 01 - 03:16 PM

Proactive - getting your retaliation in first.


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: Hollowfox
Date: 04 Dec 01 - 03:32 PM

Beeyootifull! Many thanks; I'm going to pass this site around.


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: Bert
Date: 04 Dec 01 - 03:58 PM

How in the hell did Alexander Haig get in there?


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: Snuffy
Date: 04 Dec 01 - 07:52 PM

Pre-emptive - He was going to hit me, so I hit him back first.


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: GUEST,mgarvey@pacifier.com
Date: 04 Dec 01 - 08:35 PM

I would like to see the word "wannabe" banished. It is a foolish looking and sounding word, like baby talk, and is inherently scornful of others. I find it the nastiest new word to come downt the pike in my lifetime. mg


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: 53
Date: 04 Dec 01 - 11:05 PM

i agree about wannabee. BOB


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: ddw
Date: 04 Dec 01 - 11:25 PM

A few of my favorite nominees are:

zero percent interest (which is somehow supposed to be better than "no interest"
biweekly (which actually does mean both twice a week and once a fortnight)
bimonthly, bianually, etc.
Midnight Sunday (is that just before 12:01 a.m. Sunday or just after 11:59 p.m. Sunday?)

god, don't let me get wound up on this.....

david


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: GUEST,BigDaddy
Date: 04 Dec 01 - 11:55 PM

Words, phrases I would like to see added to the list include: Back in the day, codependent (and codep), freaked out, freshperson, hottie, right sizing (euphemism for downsizing), trailer trash, white trash, Xtreme sports (and all the jargon that goes along with this masochistic subculture of pseudo-athletics).


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: Mudlark
Date: 05 Dec 01 - 12:28 AM

I agree with mg and Bob about wannabe, and would add, from the art fair circuit, looky-loos...for all the same reasons....ACK


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: Snuffy
Date: 05 Dec 01 - 08:43 AM

Isn't downsizing itself a euphemism?


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: A Wandering Minstrel
Date: 05 Dec 01 - 09:10 AM

A fine example of the misuse of banished words can be seen in the "imagineering" advert from IBM currently doing the rounds on ITV, in which three "geeks" attempt to impress a stony-faced CEO with their command of computing buzzwords.

Downsizing is of course another term for rationalization :)

can I also nominate any verb constructed by adding the suffix -ization to a noun!


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 05 Dec 01 - 09:17 AM

Perhaps you should nominate your own goodself, Big Daddy? *BG* Perhaps *BG* should go in too, along with all the other dumb arsed (that too!) text crap.

I submitted my current bete noir, 'Should of'.

Skipjack


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: Sorcha
Date: 05 Dec 01 - 10:20 AM

kat is being "migrated" to a new server.......sheesh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: Bert
Date: 05 Dec 01 - 10:28 AM

Midnight Sunday is just after 11:59 p.m. Sunday. Nothing wrong with that. It's 12:00 pm. that I have a problem with, there's no such thing. Twelve is either noon or midnight.


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: mooman
Date: 05 Dec 01 - 10:28 AM

I notice that the very awful "taking a helicopter view" is not there. This phrase nearly makes me "go ballistic" every time I hear it (which seems to be many times a day!

mooman


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: artbrooks
Date: 05 Dec 01 - 12:20 PM

I'm glad to see that "liberal" is on the permanent list, because, while I've run into a lot of people with their own ideas on how the world should be, I've never met anybody that fits ALL of the attributes that the word-hijackers associate with that label.

I'd like to nominate the expression "you've got it", as used by store clerks and waiters/waitresses to mean "I'll get it for you". In the first place, I don't have it yet and, in the second place, its crappy grammar.


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 05 Dec 01 - 01:33 PM

It's a fascinating list, but I wish all of the banished words came with explanations, for example:

All Songs with Monetary References of Less than $5.

Number and Gender of the Owners in the Name

Those make no sense to me at all. And the following banishments are questionable:

Dysfunctional - What would they have us use instead? Malfunctioning? How is that any better?

Ethnic cleansing is detestable as a euphemism for genocide, but it doesn't mean genocide only. I understand the term was originally coined to mean, "forced relocation based on ethnic identity." The United States practiced ethnic cleansing when it forced Japanese Americans to live in "relocation camps" during WW2. As awful as this was, it wasn't genocide. Is there a better term for it?

Prioritize - If this means "rank by importance or urgency," it is a useful concept. I have frequently had to ask my boss to prioritize my list of assignments, for example. What's wrong with that?

Reaganomics - We need a name for Ronald Reagan's distinctive economic theories. You could say "Reagan economics," but why bother?

Victimless crime - Some crimes certainly are victimless. What's wrong with saying so?

Here's my own list of terms that ought to be outlawed:

No Trespassing. Since trespassing is, by definition, an offense, it ought to go without saying that we shouldn't do it. A sign saying "No Trespassing" makes about as much sense as one saying "No Stealing" or "No Vandalism." "Private" or "Keep Out" would be more to the point.

No Trespassing Without Permission. This is even worse. I actually saw this on a sign once. Does it imply that I can get permission to trespass?

Caucasian. My son's school uses this term when collecting data about people's racial or ethnic identity. If any of my ancestors came from the Caucasus Mountains, I'm not aware of it. I don't mind being called white if other people are to be called black, brown, etc., but since the favored terms are African-American, Asian-American, Native American, etc., we should, in the interest of parallelism, call ourselves European-Americans. Caucasian is the equivalent of Negro and Mongoloid, both of which have been virtually banished already.

Thusly. This seems like a silly word to me, since "thus" is already an adverb, and the "-ly" suffix adds nothing to its meaning.


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 05 Dec 01 - 04:06 PM

Thusly. Ye Gods! Do people actually say or write that in the States?

"Caucasian" in that sense is an abomination. Equivalent to "Ethiopian" as a way of saying "black". Inaccurate, misleading, insulting and preserving pseudo-scientific racial classifications that don't deserve to be preserved. Fortunately use of the term seems to be pretty well limited to North America.

"Outdated", as in the term "outdated ideas" when what is meant is "unfashionable"


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: GUEST,BigDaddy
Date: 06 Dec 01 - 03:29 AM

Perhaps we should add "friendly fire."


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: Firecat
Date: 06 Dec 01 - 05:37 AM

No fair! I use most of the words that are banished!

Have a good one!


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Subject: RE: BS: Banished words list
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 06 Dec 01 - 01:02 PM

McGrath: I just did a Google search on "thusly" and got "about 53,200" hits.

Back in October, 1998, I sent a query to the web site now called The Mavens' Word of the Day about "thusly." It was then called "Jesse's Word of the Day" and was edited by Jesse Sheidlower. Jesse later left Random House to become the North American Principal Editor for the Oxford English Dictionary. You can see my query and Jesse's reply at the link above.

And while I'm at it, here's a word that ought to be temporarily banished:

Incredible. It is used as hyperbole so often that people have forgotten its literal meaning, and that it is generally more desirable for things to be credible. When I hear a politician praised as an "incredible orator," or that a certain movie has "incredible special effects," I always smile at the unintended irony.


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