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EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2
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Subject: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Noreen Date: 13 Dec 01 - 08:00 AM So... this EuroGathering will be on the weekend of the 4th/5th May 2002to include the UK May Day bank holiday on Monday 6th. And we'll travel over on Friday 3rd... and those of us who have no lectures to get back to may not return until Tuesday 7th... (I can do some course research in Brussels main library perhaps to justify the extra time away from my studies *grin*)Investigating plane fares from Manchester atm. This will be fun! Noreen This is a continuation of /thread.cfm?threadid=37161 (messages=106) |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Noreen Date: 13 Dec 01 - 08:11 AM Oops! This is a continuation of EuroGathering 2002 - forward planning (click) (messages=106) mooman, which airport would be better/closer, please: Brussels National or Brussels Midi? |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: alanww Date: 13 Dec 01 - 08:13 AM Return Sabina flights from Birmingham can cost less than £70 per person at present. Can be booked online through the SkyDeals.co.uk website! ... over the hills and far away! |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Noreen Date: 13 Dec 01 - 08:27 AM Ah- but will Sabena still be a going concern by May, I wonder...! Great price though- less than the ferry- but then there won't be the singing/playing on the high seas if I fly... |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 13 Dec 01 - 08:27 AM Noreen-Dont forget if you dont want to fly you can catch a ferry from hull (North Sea Ferries). |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: mooman Date: 13 Dec 01 - 08:28 AM Noreen, Brussels National Aiport would definitely be preferable if flying as Brussels Midi is a railway station! There is also the option of Ryanair, which is very cheap if it operates from your area, which flies to "Brussels South" Airport (Charleroi). A coach link from every Ryanair flight will then take you into Brussels and deposit you (appropriately) at the "Wild Geese" Irish pub! If anybody chooses this route, I can of course collect them from the Wild Geese. P.S. Thanks for starting the "Part 2", I'll be posting up a revised list of Probable and Possibles shortly. mooman |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Noreen Date: 13 Dec 01 - 08:46 AM *grin* Wish i'd thought of that, Richard! According to ebookers I could fly from Manchester to either D'you think the planes mind landing at the railway station? Would make it easier for catching connections... |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: alanww Date: 13 Dec 01 - 12:24 PM I hope this gathering isn't cancelled, as I've just booked a flight for £70 return from Birmingham on Sabena (or possibly Delta which is taking over its slots)! Looking forward to meeting you mooman!! I dreamed a dream the other night ... |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 13 Dec 01 - 05:54 PM ferry I think, for the chance of a session on board again. They are the old ferries, like wot we travelled out on, but refurbished to put the price up! Don't know about Flying, cos have to get guitar etc safely there. (previous experience not good) probably won't allow accordians anyway skip-dangerous instruments! |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Susanne (skw) Date: 13 Dec 01 - 07:17 PM If anyone is going by boat from Hull - I'm trying to make the gathering the starting (or final) point of my annual holiday, probably going to Hull from Belgium, so I could give someone a lift one way (some two if one of them is prepared to spend the drive stretched out on the mattress in the back!). Looking forward to seeing you all again, particularly MudGuard who plied me with excellent food and fresh air in Munich last month and who still hasn't got his 'thank you' mail! Thank you, Mudcat! |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Rollo Date: 13 Dec 01 - 08:07 PM Ouch! Delta Airlines and Music Instruments... that ain´t no good combo... Once in the olden days when the sun was much sunnier and rollo still had money to spend I went to Florida with delta airlines, my aunt, the girl I loved and my true love which in fact was (and is still) a tenor banjo. As I did not own a hardcase, I asked if I could take the banjo with me as hand luggage. Yes, Sir, no problem. the banjo was placed in the storage over my head. Then check in for atlanta. Everything all right. But when I enter the plane (it was a Lockheed Something, the same type of machine we had just left), the stewardess master dragon barks: "Sir, you cannot take THAT with you as hand luggage, it is dangerous to have it in the passenger bay(did she fear I would play a song for her? Not for this ole cerberus!), give it to me, we will transport it down in the extra luggage compartment." She grabs my precious, I whine "she will steal it, yes, yes, gollum!", she hands out a bill with a number and a lot of very small letters, then pushes me into the passenger bay. Half an hour later we have seated, fastened our seat belts, watched the funny film with the nice girl making fuss with a live vest (very brilliant avantgarde humour, but too intelligent for a broad audience, noone joined my laughters), and I start reading the note with the number... "...we inform you that this piece of luggage is NOT included in any travel insurance you might have paid for..." Yes indeed I had paid for! Then came the chime, the red light, the call to fasten seatbelts again, and the air holes. My voice trembled, when I asked my two women about the fate of my banjo. Sure it was broken! Atlanta at last. We rushed to fetch our bags. Every bag is there, but - alas, no banjo! the last two or three luggages appear at the "sushi bar", but still no banjo! With nerves shaking I ask a uniformed bystander where I can receive info about my banjo. The u.b. looks at my bill: "Luggage of this category will be deposed in an extra room, you cannot miss it, first right, second left, then turn three times, speak out the Unspeakable backwards and puff!" Puff? Puff. At last we find this mysterious room... and first thing I see is NOT a banjo of any kind, but... a broken pram... This was the moment I broke out in tears. And THAT was the moment when the second cart came with the rest of the extra luggage, including my unbroken banjo. The trip back to europe we made with exactly the same bord crew. No, sir, no problem to take your banjo as hand luggage. Really no problem, sir. Not from miami to atlanta, not from atlanta to new york, not from new york to hamburg. Take my advice, folks. If Delta takes over the slots, travel by ferry if you don't want to die with heart attack. |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Noreen Date: 13 Dec 01 - 08:17 PM Good story, Rollo- I know exactly what you went through. But surely they won't object to a nice neat concertina in a soft shoulder bag? :0) |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Rollo Date: 13 Dec 01 - 08:54 PM a concertina! They won't object... but they will be very pleased, for they will have forgotten to bring along coffee filters! Oh, don't panic, you can keep the mechanics. *GGG* |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: mooman Date: 14 Dec 01 - 03:54 AM Rest assured alanww, the gathering will NOT be cancelled! It will run 3-6 May (even morning of the 7 May to accomodate early arrivers and hangers on). By a happy coincidence this all coincides with my 50th birthday which will make for an extra special party! mooman |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Llanfair Date: 14 Dec 01 - 04:29 AM Aaaah, 50!, I remember 50! "smile" It is possible that I will take advantage of my concessionary travel and come to Brussels by train. I am so looking forwar to this!!! Cheers, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 14 Dec 01 - 04:42 AM Keep the beer cold for me! Where abouts in Brussells is it? Any good list of hotels etc? Cheers DtG |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: GUEST,Cookieless Tony in Brussels Date: 14 Dec 01 - 05:25 AM Sorry all, SABENA ("Such-a-Bad-Experience-Never-Again" as it was known to those of us who regularly used its so-called services), the Belgian national airline went down the financial gurgler a few weeks back, so it isn't a travel option for Eurogathering. A rescue plan based on portions of it is being put together under the name of DAT, but hasn't commenced operations yet. Ryanair Stanstead to Brussels South/Charleroi is by far the cheapest option. Book on their internet site. And last time I flew them, they were quite happy to take a guitar as cabin baggage! Brussels-Midi is a train station, not an airport. It's the Eurostar terminal. If arriving late at night, be a bit careful, it has a bad rep as regards muggings/vandalism etc. Best to taxi outta there as soon as possible, don't hang around. Happy holidays to all |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Tone d' F Date: 14 Dec 01 - 07:35 AM Unfortuanately I'm running a medieval battle in Devon that weekend have fun and think of me surrounded by cold wet re-enactors with leanings towards songs to slit your wrists by |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 14 Dec 01 - 09:58 AM Susanne, no problem, you also did not yet get your "Did you get home safely?" mail... I am glad you enjoyed the food (don't let Geoffrey or Mrs. Duck know that we had duck ;-) Looking forward to see you all in Belgium (and hopefully some of you in Stony Stratford). MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 14 Dec 01 - 09:58 AM And yes, Susanne, the wine was very good! MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: GUEST,guesting :) Date: 14 Dec 01 - 10:45 AM Hope I am not going over old points, meeting on the 4-5th of May. Europa Day is May 9th.
Did you guys consider a Sing Song then? Other question there are many more and diverse Folk traditions on the Continent, so how in the world did you arrange it so they are represented?
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Noreen Date: 14 Dec 01 - 03:31 PM GUEST, guesting, the representation depends on who gets involved! It's not organised apart from a location being arranged and help given to find accommodation and other neccessities of life- such as places to play, sing and dance. I hope this answers your question. Why don't you come along and represent whatever tradition you choose? Noreen |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: GUEST,guesting Date: 14 Dec 01 - 07:24 PM Thank You ?Miss? Noreen. My visage may cause some confusion and, my idea of Folk music a public disturbance. But you are quite correct the event seems to enjoy virtual fame rather than media exposure, that may explain why there is no mention of it in the Press.
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 15 Dec 01 - 12:46 PM guesting, our "MudGatherings" are mostly for our own purpose, although in some cases the general (or better local) public is accepted as audience. |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 06 Jan 02 - 09:15 AM Thought I'd refresh, and to ask who might be going by ferry from Hull to Zeebruge? There is an early booking offer on with P&O at the moment, but time is short! before it runs out. Prices have risen a lot (they call it "fluid" pricing !! But it might be worth booking now- I am definately going. Bill?-someone give him a nudge, Brian?, Skipjack? Noreen? Patrish? The last years German meeting travellers. Get back to me.Cars or trains from Zeebruge? Cheers Eric |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Noreen Date: 06 Jan 02 - 02:05 PM That was £407 for a car and 4 passengers, Eric? Add petrol... the £70 return flight still looks good to me. OK, we'd miss out on the music on the ferry, but we'd have more time actually in Brussels. Noreen |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Susanne (skw) Date: 06 Jan 02 - 05:57 PM Eric, the way it looks now I'll be in Brussels on my way back from Britain so I could give people a lift there but unfortunately not back to Zeebrugge. Would be fun if we were on the same boat, though! |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 06 Jan 02 - 06:08 PM Boat, boat! Don't mention boat! I checked a third time for the price-It's cheaper if you go with a car believe it or not than as 4 foot passengers. Stupid idea if you ask me. This might price it'self out of the market. Cheers |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: bill\sables Date: 06 Jan 02 - 07:03 PM Eric, Whatever you decide I,m in. Bill |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Paul from Hull Date: 07 Jan 02 - 08:33 AM Eric....watch out for Stowaways clambering into your car boot if you pull up at any traffic lights in Hull! (thats 'Trunk' rather than boot, for the 'Cousins'...as I'm sure most of said Cousins are aware!) |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 07 Jan 02 - 10:54 AM Can I ask again about the location? Might help me decide whether to go for a short break deal or, if the venue(s) are nowhere near the advertised hotels, whether to get just flights. Keep us posted! Cheers Dave |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: mooman Date: 07 Jan 02 - 11:56 AM Dear Dave, It will be in Brussels from 3-6 May (7th also for any hangers on as that's my 50th birthday!). It will be based mostly around my humble abode and nearby facilities and hostelries. I live in a South-East suburb of Brussels easily reachable from Brussels Zaventem or Brussels South (Charleroi) and from Brussels Midi and Central rail stations (a bus from the centre of town stops almost outside our door). Best regards, mooman P.S. If Tony "Fossil" Fuell reads this post I'd be interested to discuss the St Andrew's possibility you mentioned before with you. I'm not sure if you have a cookie, if so you can PM me, otherwise my email is mcmoo@mcmoo.com Many thanks moo |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 08 Jan 02 - 04:28 PM RIGHT YOU LOT. HERE IS THE BAD NEWS. Eric T V, Bill Sables and Skipjack are definately on their way. The airline tickets are booked and paid for. We arrive on Saturday at 08.45 at Brussels airport(via Ryan air £40.00 each!-stuff P&O!). Richard can you tell us how to get to your gaff please? Next-Where can we stay for the two nights. We leave Brussels 13.040 on Monday 6th. See you. Richard you can pm me with details if you want, or put them up on the thread. |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Susanne (skw) Date: 08 Jan 02 - 06:49 PM Richard, I only found one Brussels city map on the web, at http://www.trabel.com/brussels-mapstr-zuid.htm, and it isn't much use. It has a map of the south of the city, around the Palais de Justice, but I suppose you live too far out to be found on any street plan. Can you suggest something? Otherwise I'll have to do what I usually do - go into a motorway petrol station and pretend to have a look at a city map prior to buying ... then leave hurriedly before I forget the details. |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: mooman Date: 09 Jan 02 - 03:58 AM Dear Eric, I'll PM the details - no problem. And I'll sort out sleeping arrangements. Would you prefer B&B or there's reasonable floor space at our gaff if you don't mind bunking down in sleeping bags? Susanne, I'll provide full travel details and send a map to anyone who needs one. Again I'll PM you soon. I'm assuming you'll want a nice quiet place to park your car as before? Best regards, mooman |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Skipjack K8 Date: 09 Jan 02 - 08:30 AM Gawd, I suppose I've got to sleep with that sodding Viking. Again. Please book us some floorspace, please Richard, and we'll come armed with bedding. That's unless Eric wants to treat me real nice and book me into the first floor of the Metropole. Skipjack |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: mooman Date: 09 Jan 02 - 08:53 AM OK Skip...as long as you don't get up to any tricks like last time. You know Lady McMoo will take a dim view of that! (;>) P.S. Of course there is a chance Eric might win the lottery in the interim in which case the Metropole is definitely recommendable and there is always a chance you may bump into someone really famous (foreign of course as there aren't really any famous living Belgians! I know I'm on dangerous ground here as someone will almost certainly think of one!) mooman |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Ranks Date: 09 Jan 02 - 09:03 AM Hi mooman, do you have any idae how much a doubleroom in a B&B or Hotel will cost for Evi an me. Looking forward to seeing you all, Ranks |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: mooman Date: 09 Jan 02 - 09:17 AM Ranks, I'll check all this out (B&Bs and cheaper hotels) and will post a list up here shortly. Best regards mooman |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 09 Jan 02 - 01:25 PM Hi Richard, floor space will be fine for me-that Skipjack, he's such a nice bloke, and gentle too!!! Of course if the lotto comes up, then it's the metropole for all. Imagine booking it for a gig! Say hello to Lady McMoo, does she need any supply for the little bit of spare time we'll have? Cheers Eric |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 09 Jan 02 - 05:14 PM Floor-Space for me please (but plenty of it, as you know I am quite long...) |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Noreen Date: 09 Jan 02 - 06:37 PM ..and away from anybody's feet.... how's the bruises, Andreas? (ouch) |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Susanne (skw) Date: 09 Jan 02 - 07:33 PM Spot on, Richard! I hope you live in a quiet lane ... Thanks for offering to send a map - could you use my eMail addy (skw at worldmusic.de), please? See you and Lady McMoo in May! |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Cobble Date: 09 Jan 02 - 07:43 PM Mooman any chance of a bit of floor space for me too, travelling by Eurostar. Mrs C asks did you find time to get that picture? Brian |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: bill\sables Date: 09 Jan 02 - 07:55 PM I would like a bit of floor space as well if there is enough Mooman. Cheers Bill |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Letty Date: 10 Jan 02 - 05:28 AM I'd be very happy to sleep on the floor! I'm also trying to persuade my brother Willem to come, but he's more of a blues fan than a folk player. Love, Letty |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Skipjack K8 Date: 10 Jan 02 - 05:32 AM Is he Irish, too, Letty? Nice to see your name again, missus! Skipjack |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 11 Jan 02 - 07:51 AM Damn, damn damn, blast and buggrit! In the middle of planning the assault on Belgium I have just realised that it is junior Gnomes number 3's 21's birthday that weekend. Ah well - serves me right. I should have realised 22 years ago that this might happen...;-) Anyway, enjoy yourselves. Have a couple of Duvells (and Hoegardens and Rodenbachs and Westmallers and Timmermans and and and.... arrrggghhhhh!) Cheers Dave the Gnome |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Les from Hull Date: 11 Jan 02 - 09:08 AM If anyone is motoring and needs additional ballast (passengers), please let me know. We can more easily get to the ferry than to an airport, and I also like to keep my instruments nearby. Cheers, Les (and Maggie) |
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Subject: RE: EuroGathering 2002 - Planning Part 2 From: Susanne (skw) Date: 12 Jan 02 - 09:58 AM Hey, folks - here's what I think an excellent idea put forward by Giok in the 'Stony Stratford: the nightmare continues' thread: a raffle "in aid of our favourite web-site", with items donated by those taking part. Why don't we do the same in Brussels? I haven't thought about it but I'd be willing to donate some CDs for a start. I'd also be willing to send regular reminders via this thread till mid-April and bring the raffle tickets from Britain. Opinions, please!
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