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Fortunato 14 Dec 01 - 02:36 PM
GUEST,Greycap 15 Dec 01 - 10:52 AM
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GUEST,Arkie 15 Dec 01 - 04:11 PM
Mudlark 15 Dec 01 - 04:18 PM
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WyoWoman 16 Dec 01 - 12:44 AM
Amos 16 Dec 01 - 01:18 AM
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Spud Murphy 16 Dec 01 - 02:31 AM
DougR 16 Dec 01 - 02:59 AM
Banjer 16 Dec 01 - 06:47 AM
GUEST,fortunato coming down Sunday Morning 16 Dec 01 - 09:10 AM
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Subject: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: Fortunato
Date: 14 Dec 01 - 02:36 PM

I want to add a few traditional country songs to the act. I'd like to know what Mudcatter's favorites are. Now if they're obscure that's good too, who isn't looking for the "undiscovered" gem?

What's traditional? Well, if it sounds like Ernest Tubb or Kitty Wells might have recorded it, or Grampa Jones, Hank Thompson, etc. But we will be doing them with acoustic instruments, guitar, autoharp and fiddle, etc. No steel guitar so it would be hard to do some stuff. But I don't want to limit this too much. Let yourself go.

Thanks in advance for your opinions!



cheers, Fortunato


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: GUEST,Greycap
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 10:52 AM

Let's see, guitar, autoharp & fiddle,don't get me started but,howsabout?:

8 More miles to Louisville - Grandpa Jones I'm movin' on - Hank Snow Sing me back home - Merle Haggard Let's turn back the years - Hank Williams Californa Blues - Jimmie Rodgers Blue-eyed Elaine - Ernest Tubb I'm my own Grandpa - Lonzo & Oscar Mary on the wild moor - The Blue Sky Boys For better or for worse, but not for long - George Jones Aw, heck, lots of stuff... Happy Christmas


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: Gary T
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 02:58 PM

It's quite a long list, but here are a few to start with:

Walking After Midnight
I Fall to Pieces
Four in the Morning
I've Been Everywhere
Oh, Lonesome Me
Dark as a Dungeon
Chattanoogie Shoe Shine Boy (Yeah, the town's Chattanooga, but not the song title)
A Fool Such as I
Don't Stop in My World
San Antonio Rose
Milk Cow Blues
Cry, Cry, Cry
Understand Your Man


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: GUEST,Arkie
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 04:11 PM

Treasure Untold
You're Under Arrest For Stealing My Heart
The Night Miss Nancy Ann's Hotel for Single Girls Burned Down
Blue Kentucky Girl
I Still Miss Someone
Cold, Cold Heart
The Leaf of Love
Life Get's Teejus Don't It
I Don't Believe You've Met My Baby


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: Mudlark
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 04:18 PM

I don't know about the instrumentation, but Help Me Make it Thru the Night is fun to sing, also HonkyTonk Angel... I'll Go Steppin' Too......Way Down Yonder in the Indian Nation....Yippee Ay Oh Ki Yay (I'm an old cowhand from the Rio Grande)....


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: Stewie
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 11:31 PM

Goodbye Maggie
Too late, too late
Will you be lonesome too
Please don't wake me
Love has brought me to despair
At the end of a long, lonely day
I heard the bluebirds sing
What was I supposed to do
Whispering hope [Bailey Bros style]
Brain cloudy blues
Ramblin' Man


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: WyoWoman
Date: 16 Dec 01 - 12:44 AM

If you do "Honky-tonk Angel," you'll need to do Kitty Wells' reply, "It wasn't God Who Made Honky-Tonk Angels."

Also, "You're Gonna Change (Or I'm Gonna Leave)" "Crazy" "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry" "Cattle Call" (Eddy Arnold) "I'm Busted" "Honky-tonk Blues" + a ton of others I can't recall right now. I'll keep thinking ...

ww


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: Amos
Date: 16 Dec 01 - 01:18 AM

I've always been fond of "Will Your Lawyer Talk to God For You", and "The Auctioneer". Maybe not trad enough for this list though. I have also always considered "Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain" to be a classic. And "Still Crazy ".

A


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: Mark Clark
Date: 16 Dec 01 - 02:22 AM

I'd say for country songs—I assume you mean commercial country music—to have become “traditional” they'd have to be old enough to have entered into living tradition, not just show up on some radio station's moldy oldies list.

Some of the most enduring country music that has entered into living tradition would include the songs of the Original Carter Family. Your instrumentation is about right for their songs and many more recent country artists have released versions of their material. Carter Family material is known to a wide audience so the songs will sound familiar to your listeners. (Although many people who like Carter Family songs haven't heard of the Carter Family.)

Popular Carter Family songs include:

  • Angel Band
  • Beautiful Brown Eyes
  • Bury Me Beneath the Willow
  • Can The Circle Be Unbroken
  • Foggy Mountain Top
  • Give Me the Roses While I Live
  • Gold Watch and Chain
  • Homestead on the Farm
  • I'll Be All Smiles Tonight
  • I'm Sitting on Top of the World
  • I'm Thinking Tonight of My Blue Eyes
  • Jimmy Brown the Newsboy
  • Keep on the Sunny Side
  • Little Darling Pal of Mine
  • The Maple on the Hill
  • Oh, Death
  • Oh, Take Me Back
  • Wabash Cannonball

Other country performers who's music might be considered traditional include Johny & Jack, Hank Willims, Wilma Lee & Stony Cooper, The Maddox Brothers & Rose, Ernest Tubb, Jimmie Rodgers.

Good luck and let us know when you have some worked up. I'd love to hear some.

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: Spud Murphy
Date: 16 Dec 01 - 02:31 AM

Tying Knots In The Devil's Tale, Gail Gardner, 1916

Best cowboy song ever written

Spud


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: DougR
Date: 16 Dec 01 - 02:59 AM

Be Honest With Me Room Full of Roses I Really Don't Want to Know What's He Doing In My World Slipping Around I Know That Someday You'll Want Me to Want You. Nobody's Darlin' Can't Win Can't Place Can't Show Tears on My Pillow I'll Walk Alone (Where once we wandered...) Amapola Riding Down The Canyon I Love You Because (You're you ...) Anytime Born To Lose Walking The Floor Over You Half As Much Then You Can Tell Me Goodbye Tennessee Stud I'm Glad I Made you Cry 'Cause Your Face Is Cleaner Now

DougR


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: Banjer
Date: 16 Dec 01 - 06:47 AM

For a good selection of traditional country to choose from go here You will find many pages of downloadable music here. Enjoy and hope it helps!


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: GUEST,fortunato coming down Sunday Morning
Date: 16 Dec 01 - 09:10 AM

Thanks all,

Lots of good suggestions.

And some I'd not heard but will I'll look for.

Gary T -- Who did "Four in the Morning"? Do you mean Jesse Colin Young's song? Good song in unusual compangy.

Stewie I don't know much about the Bailes Brothers can you recommend a recording?

Mark Clark, I'll let you know when or where you can catch the act in coming months. For the winter we'll be close to home in Maryland and the cd is just getting underway.

Thanks again to all for your favorites, Happy Holidays!

Chance


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: Rolfyboy6
Date: 16 Dec 01 - 09:29 AM

To the Carter Family and Jimmie Rogers early country song catalogs that Mark mentioned, I'd like to add everything the Delmore Brothers did. And, seconding Mark, all the Carter Family stuff is really important since it is mostly folk material despite A.P. Carter's copyrights.


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: catspaw49
Date: 16 Dec 01 - 09:30 AM

Without trying to define "traditional" Country music.........oy, something else to debate.....**sigh**............Are you familiar with Rose the Record Lady Chance" Why not go through the archives of Rose, The Record Lady where you can listen to a BOATLOAD of old time country stuff! I'm glad, as are several others that Rose is back up and running.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: catspaw49
Date: 16 Dec 01 - 09:32 AM

That was phrased poorly and then a typo on punctuation made it reall screwed........Chance my friend, just click on the site and enjoy, huh?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: Banjer
Date: 16 Dec 01 - 09:41 AM

That's where my link in the earlier post leads also...It is a wonderful site...not to be missed! Mornin' 'Spaw!!


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: catspaw49
Date: 16 Dec 01 - 10:22 AM

Geeziz, I'm sorry Banj, I completely missed your post somehow. My apologies.......I really am so glad that she's back up and fully functional.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: Gary T
Date: 16 Dec 01 - 03:09 PM

Fortunato, the chart hit of "Four in the Morning" was recorded by Faron Young, written by Jerry Chesnut. I'm not familiar with Jesse Colin Young's song, so I don't know if it's the same one.

Here are the lyrics:

IT'S FOUR IN THE MORNING
AND ONCE MORE THE DAWNING
JUST WOKE UP THE WANTING IN ME
WISHING I'D NEVER MET HER
KNOWING IF I'D FORGET HER
HOW MUCH BETTER OFF SHE WOULD BE
THE LONGER I HOLD ON
THE LONGER THIS GOES ON
THE HARDER THAT IT'S GONNA BE
BUT IT'S FOUR IN THE MORNING
AND ONCE MORE THE DAWNING
JUST WOKE UP THE WANTING IN ME

I'VE NEVER DESERVED HER
GOD KNOWS WHEN I HURT HER
THAT'S THE LAST THING THAT I WANT TO DO
SHE TRIES BUT SHE CAN'T TELL HOW SHE FEELS
BUT I KNOW TOO WELL WHAT SHE'S GOING THROUGH
IF I LOVE HER SO MUCH I DON'T KNOW WHY I CAN'T DO
THE RIGHT THING AND JUST LET HER BE
BUT IT'S FOUR IN THE MORNING
AND ONCE MORE THE DAWNING
JUST WOKE UP THE WANTING IN ME

LAST NIGHT I TOLD HER
THIS TIME IT'S ALL OVER
MAKING TEN TIMES I TOLD HER GOODBYE
LAST NIGHT WE BROKE UP
THIS MORNING I WOKE UP
AND FOR THE TENTH TIME I'M CHANGING MY MIND
I SAW MORE LOVE IN HER EYES WHEN I LEFT HER
THAT MOST FOOLISH MEN WILL EVER SEE
AND IT'S FOUR IN THE MORNING
AND ONCE MORE THE DAWNING
JUST WOKE UP THE WANTING IN ME


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: GUEST,kendall
Date: 16 Dec 01 - 03:39 PM

Alone and forsaken, Hank Williams.
Long Black Limosine, sung by Glenn Campbell.
Great Speckled Bird, Roy Acuff.


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: Stewie
Date: 16 Dec 01 - 06:45 PM

Fortunato, I was referring to the Bailey Brothers (Charlie and Danny) as distinct from the Bailes Brothers. They once had 2 fine albums on Rounder, but both unfortunately seem to have disappeared entirely with not even cassettes offered: 'Have you forgotten the Bailey Brothers?: The Early Days of Bluegrass Vol 6' Rounder 1018 and The Bailey Brothers and the Happy Valley Boys 'Take me back to happy valley' Rounder 0030. The brothers added bluegrass instumentation (fiddle, banjo and bass) to the brother duet's mandolin and guitar and vocal harmonies, but Charlie played mandolin as a soft back-up lead rather than rhythmic chop.

As youngsters, the brothers learned the old hymn in church and sang it throughout their career. Basically they used the first 2 stanzas and chorus as available on cyber hymnal site, with one voice echoing the other in the chorus.

/Whispering hope

It has always struck me as a particularly lovely rendition of a sacred song and hence my recommendation.

Like yourself, apart from a few scattered tracks, I have little knowledge of the Bailes Brothers (Johnny, Walter, Kyle and Homer).

--Stewie.


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: Rolfyboy6
Date: 16 Dec 01 - 08:17 PM

Nobody's really got a good definition (that I've seen) over what early Country music is. It's definitely before Elvis forced the then-emerging dominance of Nashville into the first Country-Pop called 'Countrypolitan'. But is it before Hank Williams Sr. or after? Does it include Lefty Frizzell and Johnny Bond and the "Honkytonkers"? Webb Pierce?

In any case I recommend all of Hank Williams, and, looked at in a different way than usual, Bill Monroe.

And seconding Stewie, the great "Brother Acts" of the 1930s and 1940s. Bailes Brothers, Bailey Brothers, Monroe Brothers, the above mentioned Delmore Brothers, and the Blue Sky Boys (Bolick Brothers). And the Louvin Brothers. And Chrlie Poole and the North Carolina Ramblers. Some of the Old Time musicians mightn't like my mentioning these as country, but that's what these artists thought they were.


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: Fortunato
Date: 17 Dec 01 - 02:20 PM

Thanks, Stewie.

Hey, 'spaw I'll try Rosie's site, thanks.

Rolfyboy. I agree they're country. I think of them and bill our act as "Old Time Country". You guys are helping me greatly by suggesting songs and 'defining' our genre. I think there's an audience for this stuff. It may be hard to get them all in one room to play too, other than festivals, but we're going to give it a run.

Gary T that is a totally different song, thanks.

I'm preserving this thread to draw ideas from.

regards, Fortunato


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: 53
Date: 17 Dec 01 - 09:34 PM

blue moon of kentucky, cotton fields, act naturally, the running kind, today i started loving you again, white line fever, honey don't, just to name a few that i like to do. BOB


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Dec 01 - 10:17 PM

click here and have yer Kleenex handy, Chance Wayne Raney sings "The Child's Side of Life"

Rose the Record lady has it all..*grin*


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Dec 01 - 10:22 PM

oh, you want something more 'adult'?..say no more...!! got a song by Cal Smith here about yer basic morality


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Dec 01 - 10:26 PM

I don't pick to suit you?..Ok...look ...maybe you'll see something that reminds you..*grin*..


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: Fortunato
Date: 18 Dec 01 - 08:44 AM

thanks for your favorites, 53, Bob, I like those as well, particularly Merle's "Well, today I, started loving you again. I love the way he pauses after 'I', there's a choke in that pause to let you know he's crying. Merle is in his quiet way one the most emotive singers and writers of our age.

Thanks Bill, Great Stuff!

Regards, Fortunato


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: Fortunato
Date: 18 Dec 01 - 09:37 AM

Bill those links are not linking... at least today. Happy Holidays.


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Dec 01 - 10:36 AM

tsk...I messed up the third one, but the first two should just play songs...if you have RealPlayer installed....

here is the third one..corrected

and here is the main page


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 18 Dec 01 - 10:48 AM

My first reaction is to say I don't "do" country but, of course, I mean Garth Brooks and his ilk. I do enjoy Jimmie Rodgers and Hank Williams (sen) so I'd pick one of HW's: Move it on over, Hey Good lookin' or Settin' the woods on fire that I seem to have known since before I knew it was country music.
RtS (just a city boy)


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Dec 01 - 10:56 AM

there's "Country"...then there's 'City Billy" music..recent stuff that is done by wannabes with few real roots or appreciation of the tradition. Very much like what happened to Bluegrass in the last 20 years...and sort of like what Bluegrass did to "Old Timey"....

What Garth Brooks does is ok, but it ain't Hank Williams


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: Fortunato
Date: 18 Dec 01 - 12:21 PM

I like to imagine that Mr. Brooks and lots of other current Country Music performers would surprise us with their knowledge and enjoyment of Old Time or Traditional or pre-Rockabilly country music. I am fully aware that it is a record industry.

I have the luxury of being non-commercial.


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Dec 01 - 01:05 PM

LOL.....Saw John Prine on a "Sessions at West 54th" program and he had just released the album with a lot of the "favorite Country duets" on it that he'd recorded with a lot of folks. That night he had Iris DeMent with him....an interesting vocal duo....and as he was introducing one of the songs he said, "Now these here were all big country music hits which means they're all about 2 minutes long.....So you need about a zillion of them to make an album." Really cracked me up.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: Fortunato
Date: 18 Dec 01 - 01:13 PM

It's the truth. And all the Rockabilly songs, too, that I love to do. You gotta do 45 of them suckers to fill threes sets! Or else bullshit some time away.

HOw's your health anyway, 'spaw, my boy, are you feeling perky out there in the heartland? regards, Chance


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Dec 01 - 01:14 PM

yep, Chance...many years ago at Winfield, I saw a group of young pickers under the grandstand, just playing some neat 'old' tunes and songs....imagine my surprise later when they appeared on the main stage....introduced as "The Newgrass Revival".....where they proceeded to play a set totally different than all that great suff they had been warming up with...I guess you gotta play what the crowd expects if you are in 'the business'.


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: M.Ted
Date: 18 Dec 01 - 01:56 PM

I have been thinking a bit,(not that it ever helps) and think that "Faded Love", traditional or not, is the song that wraps it all up for me, with "Stand By Your Man" right up there. "You Don't Know Me", "He Stopped Loving Her Today" would be hard to top, as well. Going back a bit before that, "The Prisoner's Song","I'm Here to Get My Baby Out of Jail", "Kentucky"--well, for everyone I can think of now, there will be twenty that come to mind later--


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Subject: RE: Help: Favorite Traditional Country Songs?
From: 53
Date: 18 Dec 01 - 02:03 PM

she thinks i still care, especially by john fogerty is a great song. BOB


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