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BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?

Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 20 Dec 01 - 06:59 AM
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Paul from Hull 20 Dec 01 - 07:24 AM
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KitKat 20 Dec 01 - 07:38 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 20 Dec 01 - 07:42 AM
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Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 20 Dec 01 - 07:52 AM
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Subject: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 06:59 AM

And why? I want to be buried.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 07:13 AM

Why?


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: gnu
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 07:18 AM

Cause he doesn't want to burn in Hull.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 07:20 AM

LOL! Good one gnu


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 07:24 AM

*LOL*


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: KitKat
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 07:29 AM

Is this a serious question? Personally I would rather be cremated. As a child, I watched my grandfather's coffin being lowered into a muddly hole on a freezing cold wet Winter day and was terribly upset at the thought of leaving him there to rot in the dark and damp.

Since then, I have attended the cremations of a number of close friends and relatives, including my father and my brother-in-law. Upsetting as these occasions were, the idea of setting their spirits free through fire was more comforting than mouldering in the earth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 07:30 AM

Burnt. I've some prime 7" board left over from re-flooring the back room, and I'm knocking up my own casket as an economy measure, and to get to know the vehicle that will carry me to Hades. Any advice on linings?


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: KitKat
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 07:38 AM

Are you going for luxury or economy. If luxury, midnight blue velvet would be my choice. If economy, how about woodchip wallpaper? Even more tasteful would be brick-effect wallpaper!


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 07:42 AM

Yes its a serious question, I would like to be buried because I dont like the idea of being burnt.
Skipjack-I have got a set of plans for making your own coffin, do you want them? The cheapest way is to use old pallets.You have to be careful though as some crematorioms have rules about what they will burn.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST,Desdemona
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 07:51 AM

Oh, definitely buried! I've had the whole thing planned for years: winding sheet, a nice, old-fashioned box, nailed shut ('cause once I'm in I won't be coming out no more!), complete with a headstone w/rhyming couplets & memento mori. The lot. And I want to be in the overgrown & atmospheric 15th c. boneyard outside St James' church in Knowle, Solihull, where some of my family live.

Picked it out years ago!

(I'm still undecided as to the couplets, tho'!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 07:52 AM

Here are the plans for anyone who wants to make their own coffin http://www.globalideasbank.org/natdeath/ndh6.html scroll down for the plans.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Gervase
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 08:10 AM

I'd like to be buried at sea - if only to spite all the sods who at some point have expressed a wish to dance onmy grave!


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 08:13 AM

If they built a big bonfire with your body in the heart of it and danced around it saying goodbye, kat's idea about "setting their spirits free through fire" would maybe make sense to me. But being wheeled away out of sight to be burnt in an oven, while the family and friends sit awkwardly in pews - no way.

Standing round a grave and lowering the body, and coming back later and tidying it up and putting in a few bulbs and so on is a better way to part, I feel.

What I like better is the idea of a woodland or better still an orchard burial, with an apple tree planted on top of you, or a blackberry bush. Woodland funerals are starting to come in. I don't think the apple trees and blackberry bushes have yet managed to make much headway, but I hope they'll come in time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 08:34 AM

My family has long been in favour of cremation, the only time we don't get accused of being a waste of space. Being a cheapskate,I've gone one better and willed my body to the Inspector of Anatomy for transplant, dissection or research, or just for the general amusement of medical students. What's left is disposed of free!
I've asked for no ceremony but Herself will do what she likes, I expect (including dancing on the ashes!). RtS(Her list of hymns for her funeral keeps growing to the extent that they'll have to have at least one interval or refreshment break!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Snuffy
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 08:53 AM

But what is the most environment-friendly and energy-efficient way of disposing of mortal remains? You don't need a fire, or a box in a hole: just leave your corpse out in the wood and nature will recycle you for free.

Or should we be adding to pollution and global warming in death as in life? Perhaps I should be cut up and made into cattle-feed, like they did with all the other diseased brain tissue here in Britain.

WassaiL! V


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST,Not a Ghoul
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 09:48 AM

Actually, I've made arrangements to have my body go to a teaching hospital -- cuts estate costs to zero and does some good for humanity. I've used this body well and would like to think it can do further good after I'm gone.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Hollowfox
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 12:18 PM

Recycled (organ donation, that is), then composted. I really like the apple tree/blackberry bush idea. I've always liked both fruits, and the blackberry bushes wil keep anybody from bothering me with their stupid lawnmowers, etc. Plain softwood for the box, please, no varnish, paint, or lining to gum up the composting.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Trevor
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 12:43 PM

I always thought I wanted to be buried until I heard 'Joy of Living'. It certainly made me think again, the beautiful lines about 'I'll be part of the curlews cry and the soaring hawk, the blue milkwort and the sundew hung with diamonds...I'll be riding the gentle wind as it blows through your hair....'.

Pass the tissues..


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 12:50 PM

I haven't quite decided whether I'll do either. As the man said, 'I realize that no one has lived forever, but hey-somebody's got to be first!'

:^)

I think I'll go for cremation and scattered ashes, then a stone in a woodsy place for reflection... (There isn't much reflection in a mud puddle)


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 12:51 PM

Burn Baby Burn when it's time to take your turn. JohnB


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: CarolC
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 01:20 PM

Cremated. It's cheaper it just makes a lot more sense to me than planting a cheesy looking expensive box in the ground for no good reason.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST,Paul
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 01:30 PM

Cremated definately. Then have my ashes scattered on the sea in a beautiful place.

I concur with Trevor's Ewan MaColl quote, about becoming part of something else. That happens a lot slower with burial

Paul

btw, do Christians still worry about cremation because of 'bodies rising up from the grave' on judgement day?


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: artbrooks
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 01:34 PM

Cremated
The worms crawl in
The worms crawl out
The worms crawl into your nose and mouth


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Dead Horse
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 01:44 PM

Stuffed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 01:57 PM

I saw a guy being cremated earlier this year... Like a giant easy-bake oven. They took the 'cremains' out, ground them up in what looked like a large blender, dumped them into a bag, and packed the bag in the urn. Neat!

I'm not into embalming/rotting/etc, so I guess I vote 'cremation.'

Actually, that's a lie. I want a sky burial. But out of the two choices: cremation. :)

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Fortunato
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 02:40 PM

Well, ain't this a cheery little topic for the holiday season. You guys picked a helluva time to quit taking the prozac. Come on cheer up you buggers; you apparently ain't dead yet since yer posting. Do I want to be buried or burned? Hell no. Neither. Nor shot nor stabbed nor drawn and quartered.

John from Hull, get down to the pub and have a pint, smile at a barmaid, tell a joke to the innkeeper. (Of course I could be wrong and this could be fun for some I suppose.) Happy Holidays :)Fortunato


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: CarolC
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 03:01 PM

Hey! I'm happier than a pig in slop. Someone gave me a link to CBC radio online and I'm enjoying the hell out of it.

But I've got to do something while I'm listening to it. Seemed like a perfectly reasonable question for me to answer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 03:15 PM

I'm a firm believer not only in recycling but in keeping the expense down. Since slow oxidation in the treetops or being placed at the bottom of my compost pile is illegal in New Hampshire, I'll settle for cremation and my ashes being scattered over the North Atlantic. I do intend to carve my own slate gravestone, however, probably in a very traditional style (pre-willow and urns) and with lots of ligatures since that's what I spend so much time studying. Got into a wonderful graveyard in Chester, Vermont a few weeks ago -- and me without a camera or rubbing materials!

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Gareth
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 03:20 PM

"Stop Engines"

Splash !

"Full Ahead all."

Gareth


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 03:27 PM

Organ donation should be manditory!

After I've done that... well... I saw a really neat show about seat belts and such... did you know that every car design is eventually tested with cadavers??? I wanna be one of those!!!

LOL!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 03:31 PM

Neither. I'd rather wait til I've croaked!

After that happens I've told Heather to Fedex my body to Burke and Hare. Figure that the brain of a 12 year old in the body of Walter Brennan is not something they'd turn their noses up at (assuming she does it quickly!)

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 04:50 PM

Gareth, good idea. Recycle as fish food.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: MMario
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 04:55 PM

Thanks, Rick! I was afraid I was going to have to say it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: gnu
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 04:59 PM

Clinton... I agree. Now, how do you get a say in what they use your mortal remains for ? I'm thinking ATV into the woods at full throttle in top gear.... wait, they'll probably get that data upon my death anyway. Oh well, (ab)used parts for sale, cheap.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: gnu
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 05:02 PM

...and before CC makes any jokes about which parts were abused, I'm talking liver and brain here ! Geez, you got a dirty mind !


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 05:46 PM

"Put tombstones at my head and feet, and on my breast carve a little turtle dove"- this way, Bat Goddess doesn't have to settle for just one stone.
Of course the old fashioned coffin with the wake before burial would be nice, with the Clancys singing Isn't It Grand, Boys


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: gnu
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 06:04 PM

"And always remember, the longer you live, the sooner you bloody well die."... from "Isn't It Grand Boys". So, don't put off your decision.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 07:41 PM

You can neither bury nor cremate my soul. What happens to my body is of little consequence, but I think cremation would be the most practical way of the 2, given present conditions around here.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 08:12 PM

Slight aside here: When they get to the point where they can graft a living head on to a body, do you want to be the donor or the donee?


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: CarolC
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 09:45 PM

Neither one I think, Ebbie. I guess I'll leave that experiment to someone much more adventuresome than me.

...and before CC makes any jokes about which parts were abused, I'm talking liver and brain here ! Geez, you got a dirty mind !

Why gnu! Are you referring to me? I would never...

I assumed you meant brain, being the deep thinker that you are.

(Still, if you got the other parts, you might as well get some mileage out of them, don't you think?)


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: 53
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 10:18 PM

i would like to be creamated so glenda could carry me around in her guitar case and i'll be able to go to all the concerts with her. BOB


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Robin2
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 10:32 PM

I'm leaving my body to science fiction


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 10:39 PM

I like being able to visit the grave where my parents and now my brother are buried when I go back to Tipperary. I think it's good to have a place

No need for a big flash coffin. No need for any coffin - follow the custom of some monastic orders, where coffins aren't normally used. Or if there's some city ordinance requiring them (bloody cheek), you can get cardboard ones these days.

If it's got to be cremation, the Indians do it much better, out in the open.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 20 Dec 01 - 11:35 PM

Well, if I can have Kendall sing Ashes on the Sea for me, then I want to be cremated. Actually, I don't care - I think the decision should be left to those I leave behind. I'll be dead, so I don't see how it would make a difference to me.

I had two good friends die this last year. Dick, a retired Air Force officer, died unexpectedly. He was in perfect health wehen I last saw him on Sunday morning, and we laid him in the grave on Saturday. He had a traditional funeral with a 21-gun salute, and then we watched as his coffin was lowered into the grave. As we left, we each threw a handful of dirt onto the coffin. Other times, I've seen people drop flowers onto the coffin.

Jim and I were best of friends. His journey to death lasted from September to April, and I spent a lot of time with him while he was ill. A month before he died, he suggested that his wife and I would make a wonderful couple. I think so, too - we're getting married January 12. Jim was cremated. We left a bit of him in the garden he built, and his wife and children scattered the rest of his ashes at his favorite place on the shores of the Pacific.

Both of these men lived good lives, and many friends gathered to sing for them and to say goodbye. Their funeral services were fitting tributes, and both the burial and the scattering of ashes were fitting ways to say goodbye. I'm glad I was asked to sing for them.

As for me, I don't care what they do after I'm dead. Just don't give me the 21-gun salute. Hurts my ears.

-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Dec 01 - 12:01 AM

Somebody asked if Christian churches frowned on cremation. The Catholic Church used to prohibit it, but started to accept cremation about 40 years ago and eventually gave it full approval. It seems to be accepted by most "mainstream" churches. Don't know about conservative Christians.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Dec 01 - 12:14 AM

Ebbie - WHAT????? I'll stick with my own head, and I'm not donating it to anyone else either! Why go through such a ludicrous procedure when Nature has provided more graceful (if more lengthy) methods already?

McGrath - I agree that the Indians have a far better approach to cremation, while the Vikings may have have the grandest approach of all...in both cases, out in the open, as a public ceremony of respect and farewell, rather than in some dusty metal furnace inside a funeral home.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Kaleea
Date: 21 Dec 01 - 12:22 AM

Wow, is this topic about funeral music? I don't care as I won't be there. My organs shall go to others more needy, after which my family will have the right to decide. After all, the funeral and the point of contact where they "visit" the dearly departed is for those left behind. I plan to be elsewhere. It does not take a fire to release my spirit, according to the ancient eastern mysticism which I practice (some call it Christianity). But, rather, the spirit leaves the body at the point of "death." According to an even older eastern mysticism (Hinduism), at the time of death, one's spirit makes the final samhadi, or exit from the body. Final as when one practices Kriya Yoga, one learns to consciously exit the body through deep meditation--samahadi, and of course, one returns. Thus, when my spirit makes its "final" exit from my body, which I trust will occur before the removal of my organs, I will not be occupying my body, and therefore will have no more use for it. If this topic is about funeral music, make mine J.S.Bach. Oh, yes, my preference? That would be cremation & if'n I had my druthers, my ashes would be scattered, of course, in the northern rockies, in an undisclosed, safe location.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: gnu
Date: 21 Dec 01 - 04:36 AM

CC... I've miles and miles to go before I sleep... sorry, couldn't help it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 21 Dec 01 - 06:59 AM

Most of my family were cremated, except for one or two stalwarts who opted for the old-fashioned way. I expect I shall go with the majority, but if there's anything useful I'm happy for it to go to a good "home".

I dont think I've ever been to visit any of their graves; I've never felt the need, since they're all still there in my heart. I shall have a memorial service of some kind--I think that's most important. I shall not have "Imagine" played: "Imagine there's no heaven ..."--no thank you!

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Stu
Date: 21 Dec 01 - 07:41 AM

I quite fancy a Tibetan sky burial. They chop you into tiny bits and feed you to the birds - no waste! Looks a bit gory but better than polluting the atmosphere or water table with my mortal remains.

The downside here is that in Tibet they have large vultures, and here in England we have a few crows.

Failing that, could a be buried in a big green barrow like my pre-roman ancestors please?


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Amos
Date: 21 Dec 01 - 09:16 AM

Not particularly, thanks!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Morticia
Date: 21 Dec 01 - 09:25 AM

On a serious note, you really should leave some instructions as to what you want done in order to save grieving family and friends having to make the kinds of decsions that they really aren't up to, right after your death.Happened to me this year, and I still fret that I didn't give him the sort of send off he might have wished for.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 21 Dec 01 - 10:43 AM

When I die, don't bury me at all,
Just hang me up on the bar-room wall,
Pickle my bones in alcohol,
It's a hard time everywhere.

With apologies to Hedy West

Murray


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Dec 01 - 11:35 AM

So, why has no one volunteered to be put through a trash compactor?

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 21 Dec 01 - 01:39 PM

Some years ago I read an article about a pub in England that was selling the space behind bricks in the wall or, I think, beneath the floor, for cremains -- so you'd never be far from your favorite libation or your friends at the pub.

I wouldn't mind being a permanent fixture at The Press Room. ;-)

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Raggytash
Date: 21 Dec 01 - 01:46 PM

Recycled, burnt, ashes loaded into a rocket and fired out over the sea at Whitby please. Followed by the mother of all sings celebrating a great life not mourning a passing. Incidently I did hear of one person who arranged his own music and when the coffin went through the curtains into the crematorium he asked Dame Vera Lynn singing Sally to be played ............. however someone got the wrong track on the CD so as the coffin started to move they mourners got

Wish me luck as you wave me goodbye cheerio here I go ..........etc


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST,Deda
Date: 21 Dec 01 - 02:31 PM

My mother donated her body to a teaching hospital, where they used the cadaver in classes. A year later, they burn them anyway so we got a box of ashes back, which are buried next to my Dad's in the CT town where I (mostly) grew up. I've visited their graves a few times--but I live too far away to get there much any more. I've arranged to donate my body to a teaching hospital, too -- although here in Colorado my estate will have to pay the cost of transportation. (Cheeky ingrates!)

If you're planning to live forever--so far, so good.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 21 Dec 01 - 05:29 PM

"Do you want to be buried or cremated?"

NO!

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 21 Dec 01 - 05:35 PM

I can thnik of plety of people who I wood like to like see buried or cremated or even shot. I aint one of them. If I dye, then I want to be preeserved insiude a giant bottle of beer, eh, so all the people whoo didnt apreshiate me whyle I was here can feel sorry when they look at me and I will be DRUNK forever at no cost. That wood be my idea of heven.

BDiBR


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: 53
Date: 21 Dec 01 - 05:56 PM

john prine does a song called don't bury me, and i think that it would be fitting for this thread. BOB


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: mousethief
Date: 21 Dec 01 - 06:37 PM

Buried. It is the tradition of my church.

Alex


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Dec 01 - 07:47 PM

First, one helluva wake;
then
Cremated, with my ashes scattered over some really beautiful area, of which there are many in this area;
or
Buried (no coffin) in some old-growth forest;
or
if anyone feels up to it, I'd kinda like to have my own pyramid.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Rollo
Date: 21 Dec 01 - 08:21 PM

Not important what they do to the body... my soul will have gone. Leave it to the worms or to the bonfire.

But speaking of cemetary rituals, most of all I like cannibalism. No really. They bury their beloved in their own stomaches, so they will forever stay with their family and never be lonely. That's love.

Wanna have memorial diner recipes?

- fidji tribes burn the corpse and mix the ashes with banana mash, served in big wooden trays.
- certain south american "cannibals" do "mixed grill", placing the chopped meat pieces on a lattice over an open fire. While dear family members are prepared with decorations of flower and feather arrangement, slain enemies must suffer the torture of being just barbecued like ordinary lunch. Still it is a procedure of honor, because the essence of the foe is found worth to be consumed.
- A prof of mine was told by senior bounty hunters in papua that human flesh tastes very sweat in comparison with other kinds of meat, even sweater than pork, although this is not true for whites. Their flesh tastes much too salty, probably because of wrong diet. So for european funerals I would reccomend stewing the corpse and making soup. There are evidences of ancient celtic traditions to stew the corpse, but it is not proved wether they ate the flesh or just boiled it to prepare the bones.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Rollo
Date: 21 Dec 01 - 08:23 PM

Sorry, I meant "sweet", not "sweat". English is not my native language.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: 53
Date: 21 Dec 01 - 08:48 PM

very good rollo. BOB


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 21 Dec 01 - 08:51 PM

Only TWO of us for sky burial? You people will be missing out.

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Dec 01 - 03:18 PM

well, this thread was worth opening for those first 3 posts! *big grin*

I decided years ago...IF there any useful parts of me, recycle them for others....then cremate me...after all, I have been making an Ash of myself all my life...might as well end it the same way...;>)

also, I do simple math and it tell me that space for traditional burials in simply not infinite..(ask them in New Orleans, LA about this!)

I have no particular wishes as to what is done with the ashes--if anyone I know is still around, they can decide. (Perhaps I'll do a woodturned urn that can be sealed and give my son the option of keeping me on the mantle, or scattering me as he chooses)


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Amos
Date: 22 Dec 01 - 03:27 PM

Bury my ash with an apple core, and let it grow a tree.

Or failing green-thumbed executors, then sprinkle them at sea.

Or sprinkle them upon the wind, to feed upon the rain,

But do whate'er with some respect -- 'cuz I plan to be watching, so be careful!!!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Celtic Soul
Date: 22 Dec 01 - 03:30 PM

Oh man...I wish I had a lot more time to could keep up here.

Gnu, that was hilarious!

As to the question: I dunno. I really don't much care *what* happens to what I leave behind once I have left. Like, when I wear out a pair of jeans, I don't much care what happens to the scraps. I may have to leave that choice up to my daughter. She'd likely care more than I would after the fact.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: CarolC
Date: 22 Dec 01 - 06:33 PM

Happy trails gnu!

;-)

...let your fingers do the walking through the Yel-low Pages


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST,Irish Sergeant
Date: 22 Dec 01 - 07:03 PM

Hi to all: And what a happty Ho, Ho, Ho to all of us! It doesn't matter because I believe I shall return as God deem needed. However, my personal wish is to be cremated and my ashes spread where they might return one last bit of good to the earth whence we all sprang. I would like to have a piper play " The Flowers of the Forest" Kindest regards, Neil


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 22 Dec 01 - 08:26 PM

Neither.

Art


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 22 Dec 01 - 09:41 PM

Bill D, you could always turn a commemorative ashtray and have your remains placed therein. That way you could gain weight without worrying about it ......

Murray


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 22 Dec 01 - 09:48 PM

Thanks for making a link to the DIY funeral site whoever it was.john


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 22 Dec 01 - 10:58 PM

Burn and sprinkle please .... I've told everyone and now I'll tell you all ... just in case someone forgets ...scatter my ashes under the cherry orchard on Windover Farm, Mayne Is. B.C.

Thank You,... LL PS .. Musicman has to sing "Goin' home" ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Deckman
Date: 22 Dec 01 - 11:42 PM

I was an Army medic. I learned much of necessary human anatomy through courses at the U.W., working with cadavers. When I die, I think I'll return the favor. For your information, to be serious for a moment, all bodies donated to a teaching hospital, will be used respectfully and the cremated ashes will be returned intact. Think about it ... the untlimate recyclying. Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: DougR
Date: 23 Dec 01 - 12:25 AM

No deep dark hole for me. Cremation. It's already arranged. DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Dec 01 - 02:28 AM

Anything useful is to be donated to others in need, but my niece gets first crack, if she needs anything by then, as she is diabetic. Then cremated. I like the idea of the Tibetan sky burial, too, or burning in a Native American pyre, but both seem impractical and might be difficult for whomever is left to carry it out.

I want my ashes buried by the big HUDSON tombstone where my grandparents lie in an old cemetry in Colorado, up above the little ranch town they helped homestead. We buried my mom's ashes up there, next to her favourite brother and put a marker, so we can go *visit.* I've always loved going there to tidy up the sites and feel the peaceful solitude. There is always a slight breeze and a few crows who'll come for a chat and one in a while an eagle or two.

Morticia, thanks, I agree wholeheartedly with you and I know a tiny bit of how hard it was for you. The easier we can make it for those we leave behind, the better, imo. My 92 year old aunt is dying and still will not discuss it with anyone. My cousin has no idea of what she would prefer and I believe it is exacerbating an already very sad situation.

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Dec 01 - 02:30 AM

Forgot to say, I don't want anyone sitting around waiting while I get turned into ashes. With mom, we received her ashes from the crematory, took them up to the cemetery and had a short service there and it felt perfect. I've never liked the aura of a mortuary or church for grieving anyway! Better to be in the great outdoors, going home to Gaia, unless one happens to have a proper pub for a send off!


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 23 Dec 01 - 09:26 AM

When in my 20s, a buddy of ours passed away. His parents-had his ashes in an urn on the mantle. Whenever we were over there to visit his brother, Bill became our ashtray and we'd flick our ashes in with his. (We never put the butts in. We were sure he had his own somewhere mixed in there 'cause he could often be a real asshole.) ------- His parents would sometimes get pissed when we'd offhandedly mention that, "Bill seems to be gaining weight."

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: DougR
Date: 23 Dec 01 - 12:57 PM

That's funny Art!

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Dec 01 - 01:14 PM

No, thanks, John, not today, but thanks for offering!

You?

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Dec 01 - 03:10 PM

Well whatever I haven't made up my mind yet. As I think Oscar Wilde said, "Die that's the last thing I'll do!"
As LBJ might have said,"Nuthin's certain except death an' Texas." However my biggest worry is where I go after I pass away,I will be really pissed off if I die and go to heaven, cos I won't know a soul.
Failte.....Jock


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: SINSULL
Date: 23 Dec 01 - 05:12 PM

I was in Tibet when a member of a group at the same guest house died. Her family was given 24 hours to decide: cremation or sky burial. They chose cremation. I bet she would have preferred the alternative. Sky burial is not going to happen for me. So I will go with cremation and decide on a few locations for my ashes. NO FLOWERS! If someone cares enough they will send them while I am alive. It is obscene to waste them on grieving. And ther will be a party to celebrate my life and passing. I have enjoyed it here so far.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Dec 01 - 05:30 PM

Oh I forgot to tell you a funny story. One parishioner overheard the local undertaker doing a pre-funeral consult-- you know, pre-planning? He was heard to remark, upon taking the dear little old lady's hand and gazing boyishly and earnestly into her eyes:

"Oh, no, Mary-- you'd never choose cremation if you saw how they jump up in the fire!!!"

Well she almost died of a heart attack on the spot!

Cremation, of course, is cheaper.

Anyone going to the Body Farm in Tennessee?

Wait, I have a Red Cross story too. We had a military message to deliver about a death out of state-- getting leave authorized for a family member to attend. We have to verify all deaths, get official word from a doctor, or funeral director, or police, or someone with a title-- so the military family member's commanding officer knows this is not the eighth time dear old aunt Bertha has died in order to get leave for a homesick soldier!!! Well, our caseworker could not find the body anywhere!!!! She had chapters all over the country phoning their funeral homes looking for this lady! It turned out she'd had herself donated to science, and it took us a long time to find the university she'd been sent to!

Death... don't show no mercy.... in this towwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnn.......

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: lady penelope
Date: 23 Dec 01 - 05:30 PM

I've never wanted to be buried, I live in London and it always seemed an awful waste of space ( apart from the widlife it helps support ) and could be horrible for your relations when they find out yours is not the only body in the grave! ( Depending on the cemetary, you can have up to five bodies in one grave, with the most recently deceased's stone on the top. ) Not to mention that all the trappings ( coffin, hearse to get you there etc. ) an awful waste of resources.

But I never felt happy with the amount of fuel needed to burn a body and then you still had the expense. In england, you still have to be in a pine box, at least, to be cremated, although you can be buried in almost anything down to a cardboard box!

Then, a couple of years ago, a brilliant idea by a woman in Norway supplied my answer. After removing any viable organs ( my choice ) the body is frozen with liquid nitrogen and then broken up. The effect of freezing with liquid nitrogen means that when the tissue thaws out, it is far easier for microbes etc. to break it down further. The result is that instead of taking 5 - 20 years ( depending on embalming, type of coffin etc. ) for the body to decay back to the soil, it only takes up to 2 years! And 'cos you're being buried, you can use a cardboard box. Hurrah!

I don't want a headstone, if people must do something , than an appropriate tree would be the thing.

And a big party.

With lots of music and singing.

And bad jokes.

And a good percentage of hangovers the next day.

I think that's all.

TTFN M'Lady P.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Irish sergeant
Date: 23 Dec 01 - 08:51 PM

The only other stipulation than what I had above is the required wake and requisitye number of hangover so when my pards fire the three shot volley, if they don't remember the wake they will remember the scattering! Cheers, Neil;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 24 Dec 01 - 10:41 AM

One more item I just remembered about my friend, Bill:

He was a VERY heavy drinker. When he was cremated it too 2 months for the fire to go out.

Art ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 24 Dec 01 - 10:43 AM

....and he burned with a soft and a subtle blue flame.

Art


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Dec 01 - 01:35 PM

Oh, Art!! LMAO!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST,Desdemona
Date: 24 Dec 01 - 01:40 PM

Did you make good use of him? I'm thinking that he could have been a valuable resource not merely as the REASON for the gathering, but also as a means of cooking the feast for the assembled mourners!

"Thrift, Horatio, thrift....."


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Don Firth
Date: 24 Dec 01 - 01:55 PM

Steeped in alcohol and burned for two months with a "soft and a subtle blue flame? Art, would you say that Bill was a "wick-ed" person?

(. . . like a candle in the wind . . .)

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Dec 01 - 02:07 PM

Spike Jones' contribution to the "burn, baby, burn" issue (partial cut 'n paste):

My old flame
I can't even think of her name
What was her name?
Doris, Laura, Chloe, Mannie, Moe, Jack?
No, it couldn't have been Moe...
I can't stand it, I tell you! This is driving me sane!
She would always treat me mean
So I poured a can of gasoline
And struck a match to...
My old flame


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Dec 01 - 02:11 PM

which just naturally leads to:

Kiss of Fire


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Dec 01 - 02:33 PM

to be followed immediately by:

Ashes of Love


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 24 Dec 01 - 02:39 PM

I like the idea of being buried under a tree, something long lived, an Oak or Yew. Trouble is you just know that twenty years down the line this eternal woodland resting place would be closed, and be bought by developers for housing - bye bye trees graves et all.
I feel really bad about the poor peoples bones that are regularly pawed over by Baldrick and company on the TV program Time Team. On one program ancient graves had been left intact when modern houses had been built, the poor souls had been ready for eternal rest and instead some of them were damned to lie below suburban floorboards, MTV not RIP.
Not sure I care what happens to me when I am dead, I won't be there to see (or will I?)

Roger


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Dec 01 - 02:40 PM

should have linked directly to The Record Lady...where you can hear Johnny & Jack singing "Ashes of Love" ...if you've a mind to


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST,Desdemona
Date: 24 Dec 01 - 02:43 PM

I always think of how affronted the souls of our forebears must be every time an interstate highway or shopping mall or housing development encroaches upon what was supposed to have been their final resting place. Last time I was at Southwark Cathedral I was thinking about what the sleepers in the tombs would make of the flyover that essentially cuts in front of one of the doors, to say nothing of the traffic, air pollution, etc.

Something along the lines of "This place is going to hell!", I fancy!


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Dec 01 - 02:44 PM

My old Wyoming History professor told of a widow of an outlaw who, after he'd been hung, had his body kept under her bed in a lead-lined coffing filled with whiskey.

I thought it was Big Nose Goerge, who was pickled, but was treated much more gruesomely. Can't remember the widow or her husband's name. I expect either one could have lit a few fires!


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: gnu
Date: 24 Dec 01 - 05:21 PM

Actually, I would like to be able to know when it was about time. I'd head to a cedar ridge between the Alagash and Mountain Heaths in Kent County, New Brunswick, my traditional hunting grounds, and take my last walk in the woods, never to return, except maybe as moose s***.

Of course, and I've said this before at the 'Cat, I know that if reincarnation is really true, I'm coming back as an alcoholic woodpecker.... ouch !


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Deckman
Date: 24 Dec 01 - 10:57 PM

Don Firth ... until your last joke (bad) I was going to offer my services as a pyramid builder! Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 25 Dec 01 - 05:42 AM

Neither, I have a better idea. One of my Xmas presents is a book of britain's rare wildflowers, on one page there is a beautiful picture of the cliffs below the summit of Ben Lawers. The near vertical slope is covered in flowering alpine plants and has views out over Loch Tay
I should like nothing better (when I am much older) than to be clambering along the cliffs on the sunny side of the Mountain when I fall to my death in a dramatic Homer Simpson style after overreaching to view an interesting looking plant....DOH...DOH (bouncing off rocks as I go)
Thinking all the way down, I knew that was going to happen, it probably wasn't really Bristle Sedge anyway and now I ain't never going to see it
If I survive the fall for a while I hope I have plenty of Whisky ( is it available in unbreakable plastic bottles?)to dull the pain as I slip off to oblivion; warmed by the sun and taking in the beauty of the mountains, and if I fall just right, a picture postcard view of Lochan nan cat
On me I would have my national trust membership card and a will that stated that I would like to be left where I had fallen, not buried, just left to feel the sun on my bones as ever so slowly my beloved plants started to colonise them.

I would hope not to be discovered for several months so that the bloaty smelly stage had passed and only bones remined. Nearby would be an empty whisky bottle with my will inside

I like this idea so much I think I will drop the NT a line right now and see if they would be prepared to lay me to rest on Ben Lawers when the time comes.
For now I am off out to take photos of life, the sun is out, its a beautiful day.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 07:44 PM

I'll take that with FRIES


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 08:25 PM

I think this Song Challenge story settles it for me. You wouldn't get that kind of thing happening with a planting.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Crazy Eddie
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 05:46 AM

When my life is over,
And my time has come to pass,
I hope they bury me upside down,
So the world can KISS MY ASS!


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST,Gary Don
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 01:28 PM

"Please don't bury me down in the cold cold ground."

Creamated definetly When I'm dead and gone baby I'm going to what last bit that I've been living for another life on another plane.

Besides have you ever heard of anyone mentioning a past life of reincarnation in which they were creamated. The most ancient of all funeral rites

Gary


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Trinidad
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 07:07 PM

I wanna be buried. I just don't dig cremation - if ya get what I mean! The whole idea of having a send off, either burial or cremation, is to help the people you left behind recover after your gone - their "closure" I think the americans call it. When you're buried there is the grave to visit - which, as I have found, can be very useful for genealogical research! I discovered ten members of my family in the summer from their Grave stones! When you get cremated, there is nothing, at least in Britain. You can't keep the ashes, except in sme posh crematoriums where you can have a plaque. But it ain't really the same. You can't really think, that's where my grandad is, at least I know where he is, I can keep an eye on him, and I know he's safe.Know what I mean? I just know that I want to buried in our family plot in South Shileds, with my grandparents and my two uncles. It's all I've ever thought I wanted when I'm gone. but I suppose the Bible doesn't mind whih way you go - it makes it right for wither way - dust to dustm ashes to ashes!


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST,hrothgar
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 08:20 PM

Not yet, thanks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Mickey191
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 11:48 AM

There is another alternative. The other night there was a CBS program with little snippets about life in America. Kinda like Charles Kuralt used to do. Anyway,this fellow died while passing thru this small town and his family didn't have enough money to bury him. They gave a down payment and promised to mail the balance due. The undertaker embalmed him, put him in a coffin & stored him in his garage. The money was not forthcoming-and the lid was taken off the casket. The townspeople were encouraged to come and pay a visit, have the corpse at their lawn partys, have their picture taken with the remains. This went on for 75 yrs. Finally some politican put an end to the fun and had a law passed-a Christian burial was ordered. What do you think? Mickey191


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Irish sergeant
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 03:43 PM

Sorry I don't remember who the outlaw was but packing corpses in alchohol for shipping home was quite common in the 18 & 19th centuries. Jack Slade was one such outlaw who suffered that fate. The fire would burn for days and days. neil


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST,hrothgar
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 08:42 PM

Rum is known as "Nelson's Blood" because he was pickled in a cask of it to be taken home to England for burial after Trafalgar.

The Jack Tars, with their insatiable desire for grog, sucked the rum out of the cask and replaced it with sea water.

Maybe it's lucky they didn't try to cremate him - they couldn't get him to burn too well after that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 10:58 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 07 Jan 02 - 06:56 AM

I've never gone back to visit the grave of any of my relatives or friends; I've never needed to: I've said goodbye. There's always been a feeling of incompleteness between someone's dying and their being buried or cremated (and don't forget that the ashes are oftem buried in a cemetary). When my grandfather died we went to his empty house several times, and it always felt to Mom an her sister and me as though the door would just open and he'd walk in from the garden, just as he'd always done. When we all came back after the funeral, the feeling had gone: we'd all said goodbye and let him go. I can feel the tears trying to break out as I'm typing this--I know I don't have to "visit" him to tell him how much I cared about him and how much I miss him. I know it will be the same for my family and my friends when I go. Don't come and look for me, just sing a song for me or have a drink for me or just remember me.

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST,Chris B (born again scouser)
Date: 07 Jan 02 - 09:50 AM

Do I have to decide now?


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jan 02 - 03:40 PM

She walks these hills, in along black veil, she visits my grave, when the night winds wail, Nobody knows, nobody sees . . . As she stands o'er grave and pees.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Les from Hull
Date: 08 Jan 02 - 12:50 PM

I'd like to be composted, but not just yet. Burial takes up space, cremation contributes to global warming. I read somwhere that someone's starting composting bodies in Sweden (it's always Sweden that's first with the good ideas)


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 08 Jan 02 - 06:40 PM

Speaking of cremation, has anyone seen "The Shipping News"? Judi Dench has a rather unusual way of paying homage to her deceased brother. I won't spoil the scene by describing it. It's a great movie. See it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 08 Jan 02 - 06:50 PM

Funny no one has chosen to create an "auto-icon," like Jeremy Bentham.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 10:52 AM

Oh dont set Les of on Jeremy Bentham!


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 12:58 AM

First of all, I'd want tae be deid! To the question, my answer is "yes please"---but the Thursday mornin' trash collection will be quite acceptable. Did post-celebratory depression have any hand in starting this thread??


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Son of the Mill
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 03:11 AM

YES! & YES! BUT ONLY WITH A WOMAN OF MY OWN CHOICE & DEAD AS WELL.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 05:42 AM

The Wyomoing Funeral Directors homepage

http://www.wyfda.org/basics_3.html


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 09:48 AM

I want to be cremated and my ashes scattered in a beautiful place (havent found one yet but I dont bank on dying just yet)in the moon light. I want all those who know me to go to the pub and have a good drink (I had better get saving up now knowing how much they can drink!!)

However most of them will probably turn up to make sure I am avtually dead!!!!

Just make sure I am dead first this burning people alive doesn't really appeal to me!!!

cat x


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: thosp
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 03:04 PM

cremated -- because my mother told me that many souls become so attached to their bodies that when they die they can't pass to the next plane of existence - anyway that's what mom said and if you can't believe your mom --who can you believe?

peace (Y) thosp


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Apr 02 - 09:56 AM

The recovery of human remains at a northwest Georgia crematory, where already more than 300 bodies have turned up is continuing.

They plan to to drain a lake on the 16-acre Tri-State Crematory property. It's believed more bodies are likely to be found in the body of water.

The number of corpses recovered since a woman walking her dog found the first remains on Feb. 15 stayed at 339 with 74 bodies identified.

The crematory's operator Ray Brent Marsh remains in jail on 118 theft by deception charges. A new bond hearing has yet to be held in his case. A judge set a $100,000 bond Tuesday before 102 new charges were filed against him.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST,GaryDon
Date: 08 Apr 02 - 05:28 PM

Cremated;

Ever hear anybody talk of their past lives and say oH yes I was cremated

Gary®


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Apr 02 - 04:20 AM

There are media reports that RATS have infested the Los Angeles Coroner's office and have been feeding on the corpses housed there.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Apr 02 - 12:08 AM

Rats have gnawed 12 bodies held in long-term storage by the Los Angeles County coroner's office, the department's director said Monday, but he insisted the infestation is under control.

The 12 unidentified or unclaimed bodies had been held up to seven years. Officials say the problem is resolved.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Escamillo
Date: 10 Apr 02 - 04:23 AM

My sons and wife already know that I want to be buried close to some tree, thus to feed the plant and be born again in its leaves and some flower, but the plant should be someone that gives big mellon-shaped fruits to resemble my head.

A detail: I want to be buried along with the receipts issued by my bank for my savings.

Un abrazo - Andrés (in Buenos Aires)


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 10 Apr 02 - 05:23 AM

Definitely cremated - it'll save the long queue of other folkies who'd be waiting to drive stakes through my coffin - especially those who were at the Lancaster last night concert.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: alanabit
Date: 10 Apr 02 - 08:19 AM

Cremated - it's the only burning ambition I've got left.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: GUEST,EBarnacle nrg1952@aol.com
Date: 10 Apr 02 - 03:59 PM

There is no need to be in a hurry to die. My family can choose for me if I die. There are those alive today who will never die due to advances in medical science. Meanwhile I live as well as I can each day.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you want to be buried or cremated ?
From: DonD
Date: 10 Apr 02 - 10:15 PM

Since I must rise and you shall not, I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, Good night, and joy be with you all.


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