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Subject: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: InOBU
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 05:23 AM

Please read the following article and use this URL to reach the Nigerian embassy or consulate nearest you...

http://www.embassyworld.com/embassy/nigeria1.htm

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Bid Launched to Save Woman from Being Stoned to Death

DEC. 20, 2001, Numerous groups have responded to Amnesty International´s campaign to save the life of Safiya Tungar-Tudu, a 33-year-old Nigerian condemned to death for having a child outside of wedlock.

According to the Islamic law applied in some Nigerian states, at the end of this month the woman will be lowered into a hole, buried up to her chest, and then stoned to death by the people of her village.

Tungar-Tudu is confined to her cabin, where she nurses the child who has become the cause of her death sentence.

Organizers of the campaign request that letters be sent to Nigerian embassies, appealing to the Nigerian president to pardon the woman. She was sentenced to death Oct. 9 by an Islamic court of the state of Sokoto.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 08:11 AM

InOBU I am sure lots of people will want to help
Could you first give the source of your information, is it a newspaper, online news. Just that I was looking for details at the AI site and couldn't find any

Cheers


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: sc
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 08:22 AM

http://allafrica.com/stories/200111010492.html provides some data concerning this event. Still, I think most folks would prefer confirmation from a familiar source before jumping into the matter. (I found nothing at amnesty.org). Please post sources, addresses etc...


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 08:29 AM

OK I found a link Nigeria Today
I was really hoping this one wasn't true, unfortunately it is. A glimmer of light appears here 'granted a stay of execution of the death sentence until Safiya's grounds of appeal had been thrashed out.'
Writing a letter or email can make a huge difference

Thanks InOBU

Roger


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 08:42 AM

Piece on Human Rights Watch Website


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 09:10 AM

This site provides contact details for the Nigerian Embassies


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: SINSULL
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 10:19 AM

I just sent a message to the Nigerian Embassy in NYC and it was returned as undeliverable. Their mail box is full. A good sign I guess. I will try again later and call.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 10:55 AM

Thank you, InOBU and Roger! I have just sent a letter off to the embassy in Washington D.C. I hope it helps.

kat


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Amos
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 11:24 AM

I have emailed the Consulate about it. The current national government is presumably committed to raising Nigeria back to a proud national status and so on; this would be an excellent opportunity for them to provide a dramatic upgrade to medieval practices.

A


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST,Sonja
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 01:43 PM

InOBU, the website you posted, clickified, is here.


Thanks for helping spread the word about this woman's plight and the government backed lunacy behind it.

Sonja


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: kendall
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 01:55 PM

If one can be murdered for making a mistake, who is safe?


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: sledge
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 02:10 PM

Its a little strange but I can find no mention of the Father, or of any sanctions being applied against him. Could it be a little political influence goes a long way.

Stuart


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 02:23 PM

More than a little overstated. Murder it is not! It is the law of her land. She did the crime and must pay the fine.

With her as an example, there will be far fewer transgressions from the norms of the nation. In an AIDS ravished land promiscuity should not be tolerated.

People outside of Nigeria have no business interfering with local politics.

Please, keep this sort of "urgent plea" confined to your private e-mails, lest the MC become a bulletin board for ANY sort of personal concern.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST,Desdemona
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 02:28 PM

That was exactly my thought: where's the father in all this? Is he not considered equally guilty ion this "crime"? I'd be inclined to think it's less a matter of political influence than of a cultural climate that devalues, abuses & essentially enslaves women. I've sent an e-mail, and hope we can make some difference for this poor woman who's facing a truly horrific fate in consequence of a behaviour about which the political state should have no say or jurisdiction whatsoever!


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: InOBU
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 02:45 PM

My dear friend Gargoyle:
Folk music is about the people's concerns. We have every right to meddle in the affairs of other nations, it is what human rights law is about. We feed nations who are starving and stop the hand of oppressor. I wish someone would do the same when this nation kills in the name of law.
All the best for the new year, and let us all do what Joseph did for Mary who also would have been stoned where it not for Joseph taking responsibility. Cheers Larry


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 03:01 PM

Well Stated ...Larry...go ye and do likewise....marry the Nigerian woman, and raise her child as your own.

Her life now resides within YOUR hands.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Amos
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 03:29 PM

Geeze, garg, and here I thought you had had an epiphany!! You're just all covered with leapord-spots, aincha? You are SUCH a jerk sometimes I jes' laugh!

Let me get this straight: you believe that a law which prescribes stoning a single woman to death because she slept with (and became impregnated by) a married male, while prescribing no responsibility or consequernce for said male, is within the rights of nations to impose on their citizens? So much for any credo involving inalienable rights!!

If they really want a death sentence for adultery, because they really think it is a senior problem, fine; let them be stoned to death together!! That'll handle it. THen HIS kids AND her new baby will go parentless. Good solution, huh? Why nopt bury the judge there, while we're at it. What's one asshole more or less?

In any case let the record show that Gargoyle has voted for the death of this woman by being buried to her chest and stoned. And further that he believes the rights of nations shoud be extended to include allowing the male half of the crime to go unscathed, while carrying out the above sentence on the female half. And that by doing so, he votes for orphaning the newborn in the case, currently nursing at said mother's breast while she awaits the result of an appeal.

Garg, I think you must be in the wrong community here. Try www.KKK.com for crissakes!

A


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 03:42 PM

since this is guest gargoyle it could be the genuine article or some other wind up merchant. I think the link that sc gave explains why the woman only is guilty (she was carrying the evidence), the man would have to have been observed in the act by four witnesses! I am guessing there is no such crime as rape in Nigeria. Lest we forget THE DEATH OF KEN SARO-WIWA


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 04:00 PM

Thank you, Amos, couldn't have said it better myself and it would have been a lot more rancorous!

The law that would allow this woman to be murdered is the same type which allows litle girls to be held down and mutilated with rusty tin lids, having their clitoris cut out, their labia severed, and what is left, then lashed together with needle and thread, leaving a very tiny opening for urine. All so that her future husband might be sure of her virginity, have the pleasure of ripping her open and raping her, then, after she's given birth, have her sown up tight, again, for his pleasure.

Granted not all are done in such horrid conditions, but even if done in a clinical setting, it is still something which must be stopped. Women of the world and the men who support them can never claim to be truly free until all are free of such archaic laws.

kat


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST,misophist
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 04:01 PM

It's a damn shame, but that's Islamic law for you. The Taliban did the same thing and forced the woman's children to participate too. The man is ignored for some reason. Let's keep those embassy mail boxes full to the brim.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: catspaw49
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 04:37 PM

Not that it will do any extra good, but additionally, I'm writing to the senators and my cong rep from Ohio. Can't hurt to let them know there are other issues here.

....and Greg, fuck off huh?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 06:41 PM

The story was in the Observer a few weeks ago though they didn't know about the reprieve then.

Even though it's the law of the land that's no reason to let well alone. If this barbarism is unchangeable Islamic law, why do most Islamic countries not use it? Protests may be futile but they are no less justified than protests against the death penalty or the degrading treatment of refugees in other countries.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 11:04 PM

Is there ANY wonder why "we have clashed" throughout the years?


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Genie
Date: 27 Dec 01 - 11:25 AM

Gargoyle, You wrote: "In an AIDS ravished land promiscuity should not be tolerated."
Why do you assume that someone who has fornicated (i.e., had sex before marriage) is "promiscuous" (i.e., having indiscriminate sexual encounters)?
[For that matter, how do you know (how does the government know) she was not raped?]  Just being pregnant does not tell the circumstances of her having got that way--only that sexual intercourse occurred.  She could've been in love with a guy who promised to marry her right away.  It's happened before.

Not that I approve of the death penalty even for promiscuity, but let's not jump to conclusions about her sexual lifestyle without evidence.  And, as Sledge said, what about the father?

BTW, I understand that the Taliban stoned a woman in the same way not too long ago, for the same "crime."  The father was acquitted (of fornication) because "the only evidence against him was her [the pregnant woman's] word," whereas the evidence of her fornication was her pregnancy.   There was a case pending, shortly before the Taliban was ousted in Afghanistan, of a couple that was to be buried up to their necks and then stoned for adultery.  I guess they do stone the guy if they think his guilt has been established, but the word of the woman in question does not suffice.

Genie


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Genie
Date: 27 Dec 01 - 11:47 AM

P.S.,
Reading the "Observer" account linked to above, I understand the charge is adultery (rather than fornication), not because the father was married [the court did not acknowledge his paternity], but because, as a divorcee, she was not a virgin before she became impregnated with this child.

Fornication would not have carried the death penalty--"only" public lashing.

Yeah, if "Under Islamic law, if a man does not make a confession in court the only way he can be convicted of adultery is for four men - not women - to have witnessed the adulterous act."  it's not too likely a guy would ever be convicted of adultery, fornication, or even rape, is it?


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: kendall
Date: 27 Dec 01 - 01:34 PM

Those apes stoned a woman for showing her fore arm while driving a car! They clain it is for the protection of women that they are so strict. Bullshit! they are afraid of women, and that fear is not native to just Muslim contries either, mysogeny knows no boundries. Gargoyl is right in that murder is a specific legal term, and it does not apply when the state does it. I wonder if one is more dead than the other? I highly recommend the book, THE CHALACE AND THE BLADE. It tells how all this fear developed.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST,Whistle and Bagpipes
Date: 27 Dec 01 - 05:16 PM

I tried emailing the DC embassy but have had it returned a few times. Which email address have others used and been successful? Thanks


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 27 Dec 01 - 05:30 PM

I faxed the UK number


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Dec 01 - 05:40 PM

Mine came back for the D.C. embassy, but it was a server error with a list manager, ListManager@lyris.digimark.net, to resend to with the error, so I am not sure it would do you much good. So far, I've not gotten anything back. I think Spaw is right, it probably does just as much good to also write to your congresspeople.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Frug
Date: 27 Dec 01 - 06:54 PM

Sad case and deserving of the support that majority of cats are giving this. I fail to understand Gargoyle and his/her stance. Does this mean that if a westerner was convicted by an islamic court for the same thing then Gargoyle would not stand up in defiance of a barbaric affront to humanity. More than a touch of closet racism here I think. As to using the site for these purposes More of it I say ! an effective use of technology akin to petitions and reaching a far wider audience. Such assaults on humanity must be challenged whenever and wherever they occur at home or abroad. Thats why the world is chasing after Bin Laden and his fellow bandits.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 27 Dec 01 - 07:33 PM

Obey the sovereign laws of the individual nation.

Ignorance is no excuse.

Imperialism died over the past two hundred years, yet its' nationistic hubris is alive in this thread by those who wish to meddle in domestic afairs that are not their own.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Dec 01 - 07:53 PM

Gargoyle - you are now welcome to just fuck off. Your show of nations rights over individual human rights is deplorable. That's an easy thing to do in the comfort of your home on your computer - but it doesn't work well in the real world where you obviously don't exist.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: InOBU
Date: 27 Dec 01 - 08:17 PM

Hi Gargoyle, I am married, however you and I do support through our taxes folks without means. Unfortunately more of our taxes goes to screw over the rest of the world and make the richer richer. But, I would be happy to share more of what little I have in order to save her life. As a matter of fact, in spite of huge debt, I do give to charity. Now, as to obeying the law in reguard to soverienty, I recomend you read Hanna Errant, she was an iconoclast as you are, and I think you may enjoy her approach and it might show that even you harbour some traces of conformity, and I think you and I agree that conformity is the fist great sin. Don't be afraid to feel and express a little love Garg.
All the best in the new year. Larry


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 27 Dec 01 - 10:18 PM

InOBO this is YOUR thread.

Larry...The Nigerian Woman's life still rests within YOUR and your spouse's...hands.

Islamic Law permits more than one wife. This is YOUR concern, talk it over with your spouse.

The Nigerian's LIFE Can be saved....marry her and raise the child....if YOU arewilling to make a personal SACRIFICE.

TALK IS CHEAP....only actions CHANGE THE WORLD.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 27 Dec 01 - 10:26 PM

Larry..I lack your "love."

The "power" is in you...make ACTION of your words.

MARRY the Harlot.... if your love is SO great....become a modern day Isaiah .... let your life become a worldwide symbol.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST, Brían
Date: 27 Dec 01 - 10:40 PM

For what its worth, I emailed the Nigerian Embassy in Washington, D.C., They indicated they received and understood the message.

I hope to contact my local representatives regarding this matter.

Brían


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 27 Dec 01 - 10:54 PM

I ....likewise.....have sent three e-mails supporting the Nigerian GOVT and the States Rights of their constitution....

Thanks to this thread...I have posted to three NewsGroups oriented towards, "State Rights" requesting a balance of the left wing wackos found here.....(remember...it takes three "No Viewpoints" to counteract a solidified position already entrenched within a society.)

We NEED to be a people governed by LAWS!!!


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 27 Dec 01 - 11:05 PM

LETS put the VOTE on the INTERNET....

Because the "uncivilized world" is not "connected" let us count 20 "save the bitch votes" as equal to ONE "stone her ass."


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Dec 01 - 11:57 PM

Still looking for the real garg...maybe his mother was stoned to death and he was raised by wolv....naw, he'd a been lot nicer if wolves had raised him.

Use YOUR membership, Greg! Check your PM's. Come share some MUSIC with us in Paltalk!!


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 28 Dec 01 - 12:53 AM

Better YET....what is the NIGERIAN woman's life worth.

500UK?
With ten MC contributions the plane-fare can be purchased.

With TEN more contributions per year....perhaps a marriage license, support.... and the woman's life.

WHOOPS....

Less than twenty in this thread....no doubt, the verdict of the Mudcatter's World is....The Woman DIES

for crimes against the Nation of Islam!

An e-mail is less than a postage stamp....which is a hell of a lot cheaper than "sacrifice." Talk IS Cheap....and some folk's "moral convictions" are cheaper still.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 28 Dec 01 - 12:58 AM

What are PalTalk, PM, and membership? I am Max's GUEST!

A "guest" always is granted more respect than "family," therfore, I am greatful for the max honor accorded me.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Amos
Date: 28 Dec 01 - 01:24 AM

Well, I dunno your real nature or your real age, Garg. But you really try my patience with this bullshit. Maybe you were trying to give your teddy bear a ride on that rfan when you broke your hand on it. You have no position from which to speak of a "crime against Islam", you flaming weirdo.

You wouldn't know Islam if it showed up in your fucking breakfast cereal. Next time you want to go out amongst the opinions of civilized men and women, why not ask yer ma first? She'd at least wipe yer face before she let you out.

Get real, Garg. As long as we're challenging people to live up in real time to ALL their viewpoints, which is a silly posture anyway, why don't you hop over there and stand up to cast the first stone?? You obviously feel perfectly justified in doing so.

A


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Big Mick
Date: 28 Dec 01 - 01:47 AM

You folks sure like dancing to ole Garg's tune. I am betting that he is sitting back touching himself in that spayshul way, while you all tell him to fuck off. He, and the others of his ilk, love to prove they can get a rise. I don't, for a minute, believe he wants this woman stoned, but he is making a point about all of us. And enjoying the hell out pulling the strings and watching your fingers move.

I am glad you let us know about this, Wobbly brother. My email will be sent to the embassy, and I am going to call a number of friends that I have that happen to go to work in that big white building on the hill.

How in the hell do these people get the intent of almighty God so completely screwed up? Let's stay in the saddle on this one folks. Advocate to every soul you know.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST,Souter
Date: 28 Dec 01 - 02:35 AM

Why do you keep responding to that guy? He's not going to change his mind, and he obviously likes to be the center of attention. If you ignore him, he won't seem so offensive. And he'll probably go away.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: ganainm
Date: 28 Dec 01 - 03:36 AM

This gargoyle twit,

Isn´t that the same jerk who was so rude to that nice gentleman musician "Louie Roy" in the other current thread "new-old website"?

There is only one way to deal with someone like this:

Simply ignore him, her, it!

ganainm


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Dec 01 - 06:02 AM

Gargle must be really getting upset now - he/she/it is using capital and boldface letters. Oooooooooooooo!!!!!!!! Like I said, defending nations' rights and their "laws" is more important to him/her/it than the rights of individual humans no matter what nation they live in. How sad and pathetic, and yes I believe Gargle DOES want to be a part of the stoning. That's why he/she/it is hiding inside it's computer and spewing out this BS venom. Get a life Garg - don't be a part of "taking" one.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: kendall
Date: 28 Dec 01 - 09:08 AM

Left wing whackos?? A great eastern phlosopher once said, "Your opinion of me is none of my business." Why do we care what some faceless, nameless person thinks?


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Dec 01 - 11:39 AM

We had someone like Garg stop in over at Tweedsblues a few months ago whose political leanings were so far out of the circle, that it was difficult not to argue with him. But the more we stated our points the further right he went. I'm with ganainm and Guest, souter. It worked at Tweeds and it will work here. Ignore him but also be mindful that he or she may reload and pop up elsewhere.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST,alankh
Date: 28 Dec 01 - 12:27 PM

I have just returned from Nigeria where I was working in both Lagos and Port Harcourt...please write as many e-mails as you like..but I am afriad that the poor lass will not benifit from it..the north of Nigeria is in the hands of islamic fundamentalists, who have spent a few weekends happily murdering christians in the area..(to date roughly 600)..and they are a law onto themselves..the President is frightened to death of them..and even though he sent the army in..they have not made a blind bit of difference,,you have to realise that the politics of Nigeria are unlike anything in the civilised world!!!!


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: kendall
Date: 28 Dec 01 - 01:33 PM

I find that asking uncomfortable questions to be more productive than arguement. If you attack a persons opinion, usually, they will just hump up, and become unreasonable. They seem to get their opinion and their ego confused. Besides, you can't really argue with another persons opinion. (Unless they state BS as fact)


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Dec 01 - 04:18 PM

The matter is covered under "Death Penalty News" on AI's web site:

Click http://web.amnesty.org/ai.nsf/Index/ACT530042001 and scroll down.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Dec 01 - 09:26 PM

Some time back, maybe a year or so, 'Gargoyle' publicly stated there would be no more communications from him and that from that date, any post signed by his name would be spurious. (I thought he meant that he might be back under a different name; perhaps not.)

I agree that 'Guest/Gargoyle' is not him at all but is someone who has been around here long enough to know what gorge the original poster raises. Life is too short to respond to such a person.

I'd like to hear more from Guest/alankh. How about a quick course in Nigerian politics and the citizenry's daily life? And is that alankh as in 'Alan K.H.' or as in 'Alana'?

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: toadfrog
Date: 28 Dec 01 - 09:38 PM

How can anyone possibly want to respond to Gargoyle?! As if he were expressing an opinion! Don't you know:

"He only does it to annoy
"Because he knows it teases!
"Wow! Wow! Wow!"


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Amaranth
Date: 28 Dec 01 - 11:59 PM

Read as far as Gargoyle and Desmona (percahnce the same person) ... law of the land or not ... to quote the bard ... the law's an ass ...


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 29 Dec 01 - 01:29 AM

My guess IS....InOBU and spouse are on their way Nigeria....

Lets get back to MUSIC!!! and leave the world's politics in Sheffield.

AMOS - If you want a truly EXCELLENT book to understand today's Islam world...may I suggest...God Has Ninty-nine NamesA reporter's view of Militent Islam by Judith Miller, published in 1997.

Upon a friend's recommendation it was read two years ago...and it has gleamed an understanding light upon the darkness within the current chaos.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle I am.... what I am....and that's all that I am.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 29 Dec 01 - 01:37 AM

Amaranth .... the context of your quote is in regard to....."A husband controling his wife."

And it wasn't the Bard (aka Shakespeare) it was Charles Dickens from David Copperfield

Either drink a little more, or watch a little less T.V. before posting


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Dec 01 - 03:53 PM

Guest/alankh, sorry for not recognizing you. Just did a check on your posts. I thought the name looked familiar. :) I still would like to hear more about your experiences and perceptions of Nigeria.

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Mar 02 - 05:11 AM

Is she alive or is she dead? what happened?


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: sledge
Date: 27 Mar 02 - 05:15 AM

There was a recent report that she went to appeal and her appeal was upheld by the Nigerian supreme court. So I guess the barbaric scentence will not now be carried out.

Sledge


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Wolfgang
Date: 27 Mar 02 - 05:50 AM

Good news for her but no good news in general: She is free due to a detail which had nothing to do with the main question. The Islamic law had been introduced after she had committed her 'crime'. Therefore she won the appeal but the court did not judge at all whether the punishment as such was right or wrong. The very same day she left a free woman another woman has been sentenced to be stoned to death for the same 'crime' and she has committed her 'crime' after the introduction of the Islamic law.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Mrrzy
Date: 27 Mar 02 - 09:01 AM

I agree to a point with Gargoyle here. BY DEFINITION this isn't murder since it IS the law of the land. However, the Nigerian government is attempting to fight that law, so why don't we let them? I don't see everybody all up in arms every time the US executes a felon, which is what would happen here. The fact that we don't agree that it is a felony is irrelevent. Look at all the mothers locked up in the US because their boyfriends were dealing grass, for cripes' sake. YES I agree that this is a terrible law. YES I agree that a lot of US laws are terrible, too. YES I agree that it's terribly sexist only to blame the woman. But is IS the law of the land, and the land's own government is trying to get that law changed. Why can't they just change it, I hear you cry? Because it isnt' secular law - it's ISLAMIC law. Kind of like the Christian right doing everything they can to outlaw abortions here in the US... the argument the Nigerian gov. is making is two-fold; one, it is unconstitutional to apply one penalty to some people (moslems) and not others (christians and animists and, if there are any, atheists), AND that you can't have cruel and inhumane punishment (which is a secondary argument). I personally think the discrimination argument has a better chance - if it's state law that this is not a capital crime then the mullahs can't have her stoned to death even if it is a capital crime in their RELIGION. But wait - that is the State interfering with the Church, and aren't we against that here in the US?


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Alice
Date: 27 Mar 02 - 09:28 AM

With Garg's way of thinking, slavery would still be legal in the US and the crematoria would still be burning in Germany. I am fed up with people who do not have enough sense to see that there are some civil and religious laws in this world that are destructive, immoral, inhumane. If he had been in Jonestown, he would have been one of the first in line to drink the cyanide because a religious preacher said to do it. People need to realize that religions and governments are flawed human institutions that need to be challenged when they act inhumanely.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: SharonA
Date: 27 Mar 02 - 09:59 AM

Alice says, "People need to realize that religions and governments are flawed human institutions that need to be challenged when they act inhumanely." Well, that's the biggie, isn't it? Getting people who believe that their religion is ordained by a higher-than-human power to realize that it's really a human institution and that humans have flawed it without any help or hindrance from "above".


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 Mar 02 - 07:54 PM

Hmmmmm. What I read in my local paper was that the court decided that adultery was not provable. The woman and her lawyer had argued that the child was sired by her late husband, who had died more than a year before. Islamic law (or at least the local version) contends that a child can be born up to 7 years afte conception.

That's what was reported in my paper.

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 27 Mar 02 - 08:32 PM

Regardless of that, Ebbie, the child was born only a few weeks after Sharia law was introduced in northern Nigeria, and on that basis the court accepted that conception must have been before the law came in. But beyond that, the appeal court was highly critical of the lower court (where the whole case was over in eight hours), in particular the fact that the woman had no legal representation. In Saudi Arabia such details would not have raised an eyebrow.

It is correct that another woman has been sentenced to a similar fate, as happens several times a year in Iran. Sharia law also prevails in Saudi Arabia, but we don't hear much about that because Saudi is a country that the USA and UK are desperate to do business with.

Just a brief word about the stoning process, for anyone who may not be familiar with it. Men sentenced to this fate are buried to their waists in sand for the ceremony. Women are buried up to their necks. In Iran there is a vague custom that they are allowed to survive if they manage to get out of the sand, but last year a woman who did escape was shot, to the delight of the crowd, but to the distress of her children who had (as is invariably the rule) been made to watch the whole spectacle. By the time she got out of the sand, both of her eyes had been knocked out anyway.

Stones are delivered to the crowd by truck. Each stone has to be large enough to be capable of causing serious injury on its own, but not so large that any two could cause death.

There are websites where you can view illicit videos of such executions, if your stomach is strong enough, but I haven't got URLs to hand right now.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Troll
Date: 27 Mar 02 - 11:17 PM

Actually, Garg, I believe that the quote is from "Oliver Twist" where Mr Bumble says, in effect, that "...if the law believes that, sir, the law is an ass...".
It may appear in some form in "David Copperfield", but I have never noticed it.

troll


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST,DN
Date: 30 Mar 02 - 02:44 AM

What has happened?


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Mar 02 - 02:25 AM

Muhammed Bello Seyinnal, the trial court judge said that the convict confessed to committing adultery, an offence punishable by stoning to death based on Islamic law. The judge said that his judgment was based purely on Islamic jurisprudence. He ruled that since Safiya was an expectant mother, the sentence would take effect after she delivers and weans the child.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST,Pepita
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 12:01 PM

Hi all,

I have just received a message in Spanish about this case. It turns out they have now given the woman two extra months, but she will indeed be stoned to death at the end of that period.

The link I have to the Amnesty International website is in Spanish, does anybody have a place where one can complete the details in English ?

I have taken the liberty of copying the first message on this thread again, to remind us all of what this is all about. And if Gargoyle reads this I hope he'll just not bother replying, eh ?
**************************************************************************

Bid Launched to Save Woman from Being Stoned to Death


DEC. 20, 2001, Numerous groups have responded to Amnesty International´s campaign to save the life of Safiya Tungar-Tudu, a 33-year-old Nigerian condemned to death for having a child outside of wedlock.


According to the Islamic law applied in some Nigerian states, at the end of this month the woman will be lowered into a hole, buried up to her chest, and then stoned to death by the people of her village.


Tungar-Tudu is confined to her cabin, where she nurses the child who has become the cause of her death sentence.

Organizers of the campaign request that letters be sent to Nigerian embassies, appealing to the Nigerian president to pardon the woman. She was sentenced to death Oct. 9 by an Islamic court of the state of Sokoto.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST,gara
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 12:13 PM

All I have is the Spanish link, but it is easy to follow.

www.amnistiapornigeria.org   

( I have tried to make a blue clicky link but I don't think it has worked.. help ? )
www.amnistiapornigeria.org

Anyway, this page will ask you for your

nombre ( first name )
apellido ( family name )
provincia ( region / state )
pais ( country )

Click on accept and it will then ask for an email address which is optional.

It is easy to say that these things don't make any difference, but the email I received said that a similar capmaign HAD saved the life of a woman in a similar situation, and that it would appear that not enough people have signed this petition for them to take any notice in this case. That may be naïve, but it only takes a couple of minutes to sign and it's worth a try.

Meanwhile, if anyone has a good link in English that would be great.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Alba
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 12:21 PM

Here is the Amnesty International UK Site. It has the information regarding Safiya's appeal in English.
Click here
JD


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Amos
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 12:23 PM

1. The link given above is broken because it starts with a local segment (mudcat.org). Never mind -- see 3 below.

2. From the official Amnesty International site as of August 2002:
Amnesty International is gravely concerned at today's decision by a Sharia court of appeal in Funtua in Katsina State, Nigeria, to uphold the sentence of death by stoning imposed on Amina Lawal, a young Nigerian woman who is alleged to have had a child out of wedlock.

"This judgement is incompatible with the Nigerian constitution and also with Nigeria's legal obligations under international human rights law and the African Charter for Human and People Rights," the organization said, adding that "the practice of stoning to death is the ultimate form of torture or cruel, inhuman and degrading punishment prohibited by both the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) and the Convention against Torture."

3. From the Amnesty International Site as of May, 2003:

Amnesty International today moved to correct misleading information falsely attributed to one of the web pages of the Spanish section of Amnesty International. Information has been widely distributed by email falsely claiming that Amina Lawal's execution had been set for 3 June 2003 and referring to Amnesty International as a source.

Contrary to this information widely circulated on internet, Amnesty International has consistently published accurate information about the case on all its official web pages.

Amnesty International regards Amina Lawal's case as of the highest priority and appreciates the support that members of the public have given the campaign. However, circulating emails with inaccurate information causes many problems for all the groups working hard to defend Amina Lawal and women's human rights in Nigeria.

"All our web pages contain up-to-date information on Amina Lawal's case. Our public material mentions 3 June 2003 not as the date for carrying out a sentence of death, but as the new date set by the Sharia Court of Appeal of Katsina State for the hearing against her sentence," Amnesty International said. An Amnesty International delegation was present in Court in Katsina state on 25 March 2003, when the new date was fixed.

Amnesty International understands that Amina Lawal's right to legal representation, fair trial and right to appeal are guaranteed at present. Amina Lawal is not in detention and has excellent legal representation, including prominent women lawyers and senior Nigerian advocates. She is being supported by a coalition of Nigerian women's groups and human rights groups. Amnesty International is in close touch with these organizations and is careful to include only the most accurate information on its websites.

Regards,

A


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Alba
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 12:32 PM

Sorry about error. The woman's name is Amina Lawal.
Don't post in a rush when you have stuff all over the desk Alba!

JD


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 12:40 PM

And "they have now given the woman two extra months, but she will indeed be stoned to death at the end of that period" is a bit misleading. What has happened is that there has been a further delay in having a date for the appeal, until August.

The facts are disturbing enough, but it is best to take the trouble to check them out before crying wolf.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Amos
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 12:47 PM

See also this summary of issues from Amnesty International about Nigeria. The place is riddled with psychotic impulses and malfeasance of every stripe.

A


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 01:32 PM

McGrath,

You are right about checking things out. The message I received conveyed this message. If this is not the case I am sorry.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: jeffp
Date: 27 Aug 03 - 01:59 PM

Apparently an appeal is at least starting today. Here is a CNN story on it.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Helen
Date: 27 Aug 03 - 05:45 PM

In the Australian news today:

ABC Online

Islamic court sets date for verdict in Nigerian stoning case. 28/08/2003. ABC News Online

[This is the print version of story http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s933564.htm]

Last Update: Thursday, August 28, 2003. 6:17am (AEST)
Islamic court sets date for verdict in Nigerian stoning case

A Nigerian Islamic court says it will pass judgement in the case of Amina Lawal, a single mother who has been sentenced to be stoned to death for adultery, in four weeks time.

Ms Lawal, a 31-year-old village housewife, will learn next month whether her appeal has been successful or whether she could still become the first Nigerian to be stoned since the return of Sharia law.

"The court has heard both sides in this case and hereby adjourns until September 25 for judgement," trial judge Grand Khadi Aminu Ibrahim said, the highest Islamic legal authority in Lawal's home state, Katsina.

Earlier the Katsina Sharia Appeal Court had heard Lawal's defence team argue that her first trial and her first, failed appeal had been unfair.

As Lawal and her baby Wasila left the court to return with family members to her home village of Kurami, her lawyer and friend Hauwa Ibrahim was confident that her life would be saved.

"We are very hopeful that we are going to win," she said after the hearing, noting the judges had extended the court's normal sitting hours to allow Lawal's appeal hearing to finish in good time.

Chief prosecutor Nurulhuda Mahmud appeared to be preparing the ground for his possible defeat at next month's hearing.

"Our prayer to this court is to accept our explanation ... and order that the sentence be upheld. However, Sharia is not bent on passing death sentences," he said after the hearing.

"If this court finds any doubt in the proceedings that should be enough to save Amina from execution."

Under Sharia, a person who has sex outside of marriage can be found guilty of adultery, and thus face death.

Last year Lawal was denounced by fellow villagers in the Katsina farming community of Kurami after she gave birth to Wasila more than two years after splitting from her husband.

She was convicted in March last year and lost her first appeal in August, instantly becoming an international cause celebre.

Her photo made front pages worldwide and her case inspired email campaigns, candle-lit vigils and protests against the alleged brutality of what many regard as Sharia's archaic and harsh punishments.

But defence counsel Aliyu Musa Yawuri has opted to challenge her conviction under the terms of Sharia, not to fight the controversial legal system itself.

He argued that the village court which convicted her had not properly explained the offence nor its consequences before her alleged confession.

He also said the baby had been conceived before Sharia law formally came into force in Katsina State.

Lawal gave birth on January 6 of last year, more than two years after her divorce but only six-and-a-half months after Katsina formally reinstituted Sharia.

The prosecutor contested this argument, saying that although Sharia was incorporated into state law on June 20, 2002, an interim declaration of the law had been made in August 2000.

The defence also argued that, under Islamic law, the pregnancy could have been the result of a so-called "sleeping embryo".

"Amina gave birth within two years of divorce, so the presumption is that the child belongs to her former husband," Mr Yawuri said, arguing that Sharia holds that an embryo can lie dormant for up to five years.

Again, Mr Nurulhuda rejected the argument, saying that it was up to Lawal to prove the sleeping embryo claim, which had not been part of her defence when she had confessed below a lower court.

Around 35 armed police were deployed around the building, but there was no sign of disturbances outside.

Amina sat impassively through most of the proceedings cradling baby Wasila, but she appeared close to tears when press photographers crowded in, and family members said the young Muslim woman was under severe stress.

"Amina is deeply worried - sometimes she can't even eat. She's anxious to see the end of this case so that she can marry and have a normal life," the defendant's uncle, 50-year-old farmer Magaji Liman said.

Lawal's case has become an embarrassment for Nigeria's secular federal government and for President Olusegun Obasanjo, who has tried to reassure rights activists without offending the Muslims who make up 50 per cent of the citizens of Africa's most populous nation.

No one has yet been stoned to death since 12 mainly Muslim northern states seized upon the end of military rule in 1999 to begin invoking Islamic law for the first time since the west African country won independence in 1960.

-- AFP


© 2003 Australian Broadcasting Corporation
Copyright information: http://abc.net.au/common/copyrigh.htm
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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: MudGuard
Date: 27 Aug 03 - 06:00 PM

Not again...


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 28 Aug 03 - 09:26 AM

Under Sharia, a person who has sex outside of marriage can be found guilty of adultery, and thus face death.

It takes two to tango, so is the fellow also facing the death penalty ? I'm pretty sure that if the law was applied equally to both sexes, these cases would never come to court.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Amos
Date: 28 Aug 03 - 10:52 AM

The male adulterer was exonerated on some special grounds or other.

A


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: IvanB
Date: 28 Aug 03 - 06:19 PM

The male claimed he never had sex with her. To the Sharia court his declaration was sufficient for his exoneration. Since she showed the evidence of sex, i.e., she was pregnant, she could make no such declaration. Apparently the Sharia courts have never heard of DNA.


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Helen
Date: 28 Aug 03 - 06:38 PM

DNA analysis would probably not help Amina Lawal because if it proved that the child was not her husband's then she would have proven that she was guilty. Although it could prove that the other man was the father, but I suspect that the man would still get off scot free. (Whatever that term means - is it PC? Does it denigrate Scots?)

Helen


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Subject: RE: Urgent, Nigerian Woman to be murdered
From: Helen
Date: 27 Sep 03 - 07:56 AM

Appeal Court Quashes Death Verdict On Amina Lawal

Happy, happy news for Amina. Still a lot of work to do to bring pressure on the Nigerian government for human rights, though.

Every little bit helps, and the article mentions the people who added their voice to the campaign.

Helen


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Subject: BS: Amina Lawal - Nigerian woman acquitted
From: Helen
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 07:43 AM

The Nigerian woman who was sentenced to be stoned for alleged adultery has been acquitted.         



Appeal Court Quashes Death Verdict On Amina Lawal


Happy, happy news for Amina. Still a lot of work to do to bring pressure on the Nigerian government for human rights, though.

Every little bit helps, and the article mentions the people who added their voice to the campaign.

Helen


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Subject: RE: BS: Amina Lawal - Nigerian woman acquitted
From: alanabit
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 08:28 AM

The story was out earlier this week. The footnote was that the same court which finally aquitted Amina Lawal minutes later condemned a homosexual to death by stoning. Allegedly he paid boys for sex. Isn't it comforting to know that the boys will be let off with a fifty lash flogging? Helen, you are not exaggerating when you say there is a lot of work to do.
For the time being we shall just have to be glad that Amina Lawal will not be murdered by these bestial bullies.


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Subject: RE: BS: Amina Lawal - Nigerian woman acquitted
From: Amos
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 10:13 AM

Remarkable contrast -- this same brutally primitive nation is preparing to launch a satellite. As a species, we certainly are of two minds, eh?

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Amina Lawal - Nigerian woman acquitted
From: alanabit
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 11:10 AM

I think that is the reason why the shock of the Third Reich sits so deep in the consciousness of the world Amos. Germany was one of the leading industrial nations. It was a beacon of science, art, engineering, and modern social institutions (for its time). However, during an economic dip, it quickly subsided into a level of industrialised barbarity which has never been approached anywhere else. It seems that when the veneer of civilisation is peeled away, we very quickly descend to a level in which we only choose to become either victims or perpetrators. I have never lived through a Ruanda type crisis, so I would hesitate to say what I would become.


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Subject: RE: Nigerian Woman to be murdered - now acquitted
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 05:38 PM

Satellites generally get launched by other brutally primitive nations.


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Subject: RE: Nigerian Woman to be murdered - now acquitted
From: Don Firth
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 08:04 PM

The primitive reptile brain is closer to the surface than we civilized folks like to think.

Don Firth

I hope I'm not denigrating reptiles. . . .


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Subject: RE: Nigerian Woman to be murdered - now acquitted
From: Mrrzy
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 09:22 PM

The best part is that the reason for which she was acquitted is that according to Islamic law a woman can be pregnant for up to 5 years, so even though she had been divorced for 2 it still could have been her husband's child!!?! See the Washington Post if you don't believe it...


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