BS: Hogmanay rhyme

Subject: Hogmanay rhyme
From: GUEST,NSC
Date: 28 Dec 01 - 04:06 PM

When I was young and living in Newcastle upon Tyne there was a "first footing" tradition which consisted of a tall dark stranger being the first person to cross the threshld in the New year.

When "first footing" the person hasd to carry a piece of coal for warmth, some salt for the season, sugar for sweetness and a drop of New year spirit. there used to be a ryume to go with this but I cannot remember it.

Any catters have any memories or ideas on this.

Subject: RE: BS: Hogmanay rhyme
From: masato sakurai
Date: 28 Dec 01 - 08:00 PM

UP STOCKS, DOON STULES and THE GLED CAM OWRE THE STORMY SEA in the DT.
There're some in , and HERE
~Masato

Subject: RE: BS: Hogmanay rhyme
From: masato sakurai
Date: 28 Dec 01 - 08:02 PM

UP STOCKS, DOON STULES and THE GLED CAM OWRE THE STORMY SEA in the DT.
There're some in this "Hogmanay Customs" article , and HERE
~Masato

Subject: RE: BS: Hogmanay rhyme
From: GUEST,NSC
Date: 29 Dec 01 - 12:28 PM

THanks Masato. not the rhyme I was looking for but these are similar.

Your help is appreciated.

Subject: RE: BS: Hogmanay rhyme
From: Snuffy
Date: 29 Dec 01 - 02:57 PM

I haven't been able to find any words that rhyme with hogmanay! **BG**

WassaiL! V

Subject: RE: BS: Hogmanay rhyme
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 29 Dec 01 - 03:32 PM

Your previous thread on this subject is here:  Help: Hogmonay.  Nobody came up with the answer you wanted then, either.  Part of the problem is that people assume that only Scotland observes "first footing", whereas it's quite common throughout Britain and Ireland; indeed, Hogmanay itself appears to be a Norse, rather than Celtic, custom, which is why the word is also found in Yorkshire; see, for example,  Hagmana Song (Richmond, North Yorkshire)

There are any number of rhymes and short songs associated with first footing, though in many places strict silence was observed throughout the presentation of the New Year gifts.  Can you possibly remember just a fragment of the one you're looking for?  Even just a little bit might give us the clue we need.

Subject: RE: BS: Hogmanay rhyme
From: Mr Red
Date: 30 Dec 01 - 11:54 AM

Snuffy - Mahogany comes close and is an anagram.
will consult my SOED CD ROM & Penguin Rhyming dictionary, this is a challenge.
GUEST,NSC - in the Black Country we had similar traditions but as I remember there also had to be a piece of string (how long?) and it all went on a tray for convenience.