Subject: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: Gareth Date: 31 Dec 01 - 06:01 PM Acting upon a request, and as nobody shouted (posted) No ! Please use the Blue Clicky below to access the nominations page. This will be up for three days as at now 23.00 GMT 23.DEC.01. Any complaints via PM please Gareth |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: Bill D Date: 31 Dec 01 - 06:57 PM if nominated I will not run...if elected I...huh? .....whazzat? Oh...ok, never mind...I guess there ain't time for speeches & campaigning anyway |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: Amos Date: 31 Dec 01 - 07:01 PM Well, I think I sent it, butNetscape doesn't show the Send progress. BTW, the suggested categories have been edited according to editorial policy as established by the Survey Technical Director, Gareth.... |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: kendall Date: 31 Dec 01 - 07:30 PM If I'm elected, there will be a little pot in every chick. |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: Gareth Date: 31 Dec 01 - 07:37 PM Anon Guest and others. Please don't hit return until your finished. It sends a blank, or partially completed form. Gareth |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: gnu Date: 31 Dec 01 - 07:47 PM Kendall... bribery ! I love it. |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: Amos Date: 31 Dec 01 - 08:02 PM Kendall: I think it's been done, at least as far as Mudcat chicks are concerned!! A |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: catspaw49 Date: 31 Dec 01 - 08:10 PM Guys....Kendall is referring to chicks....real chicks....You know, CHICKENS!!! It's the only way he can get them to agree to a little sex...and I do mean "little." I mean like the Llahma gets worn out sometimes and Kendall keeps a few chickens for emergencies. Spaw |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: Banjer Date: 31 Dec 01 - 08:15 PM To paraphrase Samuel Clemens, aka:Mark Twain, "I would not want to join any organization that would elect the likes of me!" |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: gnu Date: 31 Dec 01 - 08:31 PM I thought he plucked the chickens and rode on the llama. Typos, eh ? |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: GUEST Date: 31 Dec 01 - 08:44 PM Gareth, Just because you've recently learned how to do HTML forms, doesn't mean that you need to force them down our necks. PLEASE don't start refreshing this thread when you get no interest. Thank you. |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: Paul from Hull Date: 31 Dec 01 - 09:00 PM Guest, I'm just wondering why someone so evidently intelligent & erudite as yourself should feel the need to be so childish & frankly, insecure? I'm wondering.....thats not to say I care, of course. Sod off. One more thing I'm curious about...was it just that you were determined tto be the 1st person to troll us in 2002, or is it that you are determined to have a go at all the UK 'catters & to work up slowly to taking on the wider world as your 'confidence' grows? |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: Morticia Date: 31 Dec 01 - 09:10 PM Kendall darling, bribery is superflous to those who know you *LOL* |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: kendall Date: 31 Dec 01 - 10:33 PM Spaw, I'm glad I didn't have a mouthful of coffee when I read your post! Morty, dont spread it around! It can be our little secret. |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: marty D Date: 01 Jan 02 - 01:20 AM I'm repeating a post I made in the other 'mudcatter of the year' thread because I hadn't seen this one. Sorry for the repetition, but it's something I feel strongly about. "Boy, I hate to be a party pooper since I'm such a booster of this place, but the whole 'mudcatter of the year' thing troubles me a bit. What makes this site special is it's collective personality. There are people who have offered SO much help, but in threads that guitarists only look at. Same with ballad threads. Same with accordion threads. Same with threads where people are having serious personal difficulties, etc. etc. SO MANY help in so many different ways that may not be apparent to the group as a whole. The overwhelming dynamic is SO positive that the creepiest critics no matter HOW long they've been here, are forced to do their spewing under 'Guest' monikers. That in itself says a LOT for the site's community feel. I certainly won't be voting for individual honors, and I have no idea whether anyone agrees with me, but that's the way I feel." marty |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: katlaughing Date: 01 Jan 02 - 01:36 AM Well, you've got a point, Marty, but I think if you look at the 'Cat-a-gories as Gareth and Amos lined them up, there's room for a bit of choosing. And, it is after all just a bit of the fun that goes on around here. I suppose we could have broken it down even more and made it for each section as you've noted, i.e. helpful in guitar thread, in general threads, etc., but for a first time I don't think Gareth and Amos did too badly and I know Skarpi had the best of intentions with the original thread. All the best, kat |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: gnu Date: 01 Jan 02 - 04:35 AM Well, marty, I was going to post that I thought it seemed a bit "high school", but I did not want to offend. Seems I could learn a bit from you about tact. I won't be voting. Thanks for explaining why, marty. |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: Liz the Squeak Date: 01 Jan 02 - 04:59 AM I posted, but you might not like it..... I don't think it fair to do this sort of thing, just like I don't like the Queens' Honours list (mind you I don't like the Queen much either!). It highlights those who have blown their own trumpets about their achievements, which is vulgar, and it skims over those who just go on plodding, day after day, week after week, and get the work done. This year has highlighted this enormously. Individuals have shouted from the highest rooftop their sinlge achievements, when they should have kept decently quiet. They have been recognised for one thing, which makes them think they are universally adored, and can do no wrong. They believe that because they are regarded with honour in one place for one action, that they can impose all their wishes, desires, beliefs and lifestyle on all others across the world. Suddenly, because of one action by someone else, a whole heap of people get shoved into the limelight and patronised, just for going about their everyday business. Where is the praise and adoration when they ask for a decent wage, for better working conditions, for sensible working hours, for more money to replace worn out and dangerous equipment? And if you think this "song" is about you - it probably is!!! LTS
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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: CarolC Date: 01 Jan 02 - 06:25 AM There are just too many people I care about who won't get this award in any of the categories listed for me to be able to feel good for the ones who do get it. So I will recuse myself from participating. |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: Banjer Date: 01 Jan 02 - 07:38 AM I too feel that I could not make a choice of ONE indiviudal of the year. First thought comes to mind would be of course, Max, for making this wonder available to all of us. Secondly, the folks that help keep it going, Joe, Pene, and others whom we don't even know for sure are behind the scene workers. Thirdly, all the wonderful folks that grace us here with their presence; ie:Jean Ritchie, who has had a large effect in all our lives, Art Thieme, whose determination and good sense of humor has inspired many of us, Catspaw, who we have seen through many rough times, all of us holding our breaths day to day for news of his progress. This is just a small sample of the many folks that have made this place a joy to come to, there are many others, too many to name. How can we make such a choice? |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: Amos Date: 01 Jan 02 - 10:50 AM Hmmm. too many jewels to pick from at the 'Cat? I concur. One catter of the year is an impossible choice. That's why I suggested various funny categories exactly, gnu, like high school. It is also true that there are many more than one prety good candidates for and role -- for example the Republican nomination for President -- and many more qualified than the one who ends up being nominated. People choose anyway. We're not shooting for Truth and Beauty here, folks. This is supposed to be a sorta parlor game. Don't take it TOO seriously!! If there are goingt obe hurt feelings because not all candidates can win all caregories then, may I humbly suggest, someone needs to have their hide toughened a bit or drop in on "LivesRUs".com
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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: Peg Date: 01 Jan 02 - 11:45 AM I kinda agree with Liz the Squeak on this...however, Mudcatters will be Mudcatters, so I think a potential solution is to include more categories. I suggest a few more:
Most Knowledgeable in Matters Celtic (well those last two are kinda high school...but why not?) Happy new year Peg
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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: Amos Date: 01 Jan 02 - 12:05 PM There ya go, Peg O' Me Heart! A |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: MudGuard Date: 01 Jan 02 - 12:59 PM Perhaps we should introduce a category for each mudcatter, so everyone can win:
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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: gnu Date: 01 Jan 02 - 03:14 PM I AM beginning to enjoy this thread. Amos is right. If it's just for a lark, I'll try to have some fun at it as well. My apologies for being so cranky at having to get up at zero five hundred dark hours on New Year's Day to prepare for a cold and dirty building inspection. Peg has an excellent idea... the more categories, the better. The categories could be more fun than poking fun at the nominees... hey, I got a couiple... Thinnest Skin ? Least Tactful ? Most tactful ? No contest. CC... "... So I will recuse myself from participating." That's tact. |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: Murray MacLeod Date: 01 Jan 02 - 04:04 PM Peg's list omitted an essential category "Mudcatter I would most like to sleep with". Murray |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: Amos Date: 01 Jan 02 - 04:18 PM I think Gareth has final design call on the categories list. A |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: GUEST,Sheila Date: 01 Jan 02 - 05:08 PM ANYONE who ever responded to a query from me is a winner in my book! Happy, Healthy New Year to us all! |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: CarolC Date: 01 Jan 02 - 06:38 PM If there are goingt obe hurt feelings because not all candidates can win all caregories then, may I humbly suggest, someone needs to have their hide toughened a bit or drop in on "LivesRUs".com
I tell you what, Amos. I won't criticize or poke fun at you for participating, and you don't criticize or poke fun at me for not participating. Deal? (Sorry gnu. I'm afraid that was probably less than tactful, but it was the best I could do at the moment.) |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: Liz the Squeak Date: 01 Jan 02 - 07:01 PM So I guess I've already won the 'fattest arse of the Mudcat' award, judging by posts last year.... although I am happy to decline, on the ground that I know of at least two fatter than mine..... And I think the 'Mudcatter I'd most like to sleep with' is getting a bit near the edge.... there have been derogatory threads already about that sort of thing and we don't really want to encourage it do we.....? If we must have nominations, let's at least have some that are non-flammable please? LTS |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: Amos Date: 01 Jan 02 - 07:57 PM Geez, Carol, I'm not rounding up participants -- if you want to bite your tongue, be my guest. I didn't say you should or you shouldn't. I just said we shouldn't act like children about something that was offered in a spirit of play and bonhomie. A |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: CarolC Date: 01 Jan 02 - 08:13 PM Sounds good to me, Amos. I won't act like a child, and you can do whatever tickles your fancy. |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: gnu Date: 01 Jan 02 - 08:45 PM Well, I intend to poke fun every chance I get. Just got to refrain from posting/poking until I've had me morning tea. |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: gnu Date: 01 Jan 02 - 08:52 PM Gareth... what did you mean by... This will be up for three days as at now 23.00 GMT 23.DEC.01. When will the list of roastees, er, nominees, be brought forward for "voting" ? Will it be a single ballot, or will there be runoffs ? Will there be any running off at the mouth ? Most importantly, to the nominees, what am I bid for my vote(s) ? |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: 53 Date: 01 Jan 02 - 09:33 PM sorcha, she helped me find my 1967 nickels that i was looking for, she should get the kindness award. BOB |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: Peg Date: 02 Jan 02 - 12:33 AM Murray; I thought about it...but it does not seem like a good idea.
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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: gnu Date: 02 Jan 02 - 05:08 AM Perhaps sleep over with... or would that be "Most Entertaining" Mudcatter... could be both, I suppose. |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: Guessed Date: 02 Jan 02 - 10:28 AM hey what about the mudiest 'catter of 2001? |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: Gareth Date: 02 Jan 02 - 02:05 PM Sorry Folks - I've tried to keep it non flamer & Troll proof - some hopes !! The other problem was to keep it managable - again that required some editing. Yes definitely a "run Off", can any Florida resident, Jeb B perhaps, offer advise on how to rig the ballot so that everybody wins? Gareth (PS Nobody has nominated themselves yet - Apart from Anon Guest that is.)
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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: GUEST Date: 02 Jan 02 - 02:33 PM CarolC .... for providing the most balanced and consistently rational posts throughout the entire year, but most particularly during the 9/11 tragedy. If eyes are the windows to the soul, then words must be windows to the mind, and the words she types here are like peering through the glass into an ornately adorned palace. |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: gnu Date: 02 Jan 02 - 02:52 PM "non flamer & Troll proof" ? I hope the questions I asked are not considered in this light. They were serious... injured minds want to know. I assume that no schedule has been set for the voting and that nominations did not close 26 December, prior to your thread of 31 December. Keep us informed of the procedures and thanks for a great thread and a bit o fun. |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: Gareth Date: 02 Jan 02 - 03:19 PM No GNU set your mind to rest - nominations are still open. Procedures Hmmm! lets se wot we get ! Gareth |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: Gareth Date: 02 Jan 02 - 06:55 PM I have received a few blank (no message not even no choice indicated) E Mails. I have replied by E Mail where possible. But if you have used the nomination form since say 2100 GMT and not received a response could you re send. The HTML seems OK - so I don't think theres any problem there ! Gareth. |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: MudGuard Date: 03 Jan 02 - 03:52 AM Gareth, you use ACTION="mailto:..." in your HTML form. This works only on a few selected operating systems with a few selected combinations of web browsers and email clients.
Problems can be: It is much more reliable to use a server-based technology to send such form results. If your provider does not allow you to use CGI/PHP/ASP/JSP/Servlet/... there are some free formmail providers you could use. Ask google for "free formmailer" and take your pick. MudGuard |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: GUEST,Skarpi Iceland. Date: 03 Jan 02 - 06:05 AM Halló all, Amos I like your idea. Thank you for it, Skarpi Iceland. |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: Snuffy Date: 03 Jan 02 - 08:18 AM Gareth, are you saying that all voters receive an acknowledgment? I didn't.(voted Tuesday evening) WassaiL! V |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: gnu Date: 03 Jan 02 - 08:52 AM The vote is on ? I thought we were still in the nomination phase. None of the nominees have bid for my vote(s) yet. How can we have an election without election fraud ??!! |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: Amos Date: 03 Jan 02 - 09:16 AM Its nominating at this point, I think. Gareth -- do you plan a runoff for categories? A |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: katlaughing Date: 03 Jan 02 - 10:32 AM I didn't get an acknowledgment, either. Was I supposed to? |
Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea From: SharonA Date: 03 Jan 02 - 10:39 AM I have to agree with CarolC: there are too many people whose worthy contributions to Mudcat would be overlooked while playing this "parlor game". So many games of this type can end up being unintentionally hurtful because of their intentionally exclusionary quality. Also, I fear that the results of this game will "feed" the trolls who complain about the "inner circle" of popularity at Mudcat. Therefore, I am joining the ranks of those who will not be participating in this vote. Sharon |
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