BS: why did the wtc fall down

Subject: RE: BS: why did the wtc fall down
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 05:17 PM

Jack, I think that several of us were reasonably clear in stating that the idea of making buildings strong enough to withstand an attack of such magnitude is somewhat ludicrous. For that reason, it seems to me to be equally ludicrous to somehow try to affix blame for the collapse. So, going one step beyond, I personally find the idea behind the thread (why) to be silly. It seemed to me that affixing blame or having a learning experience from the structural failure, both being a waste of time and energy, was the actual point of the thread. What's the point?

As far as the Guest postings go, I couldn't agree with you more.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: why did the wtc fall down
From: tremodt
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 07:52 PM

to jack and all

I said in my original thread that one of the reasond that the WTC fell down was that it was not built to New York City Building Codes

But was built to New York STATE code which was much less stringent

I rest my case and stand by my original statement

thank you all for your interest

roisin

Subject: RE: BS: why did the wtc fall down
From: Whistle Stop
Date: 07 Jan 02 - 08:31 AM

I didn't think the original question was all that silly. Sure, the obvious answer is that the towers fell down because they were hit by huge airplanes full of jet fuel. But you can be sure that current and future architects will be considering these questions to a greater degree than they ever did before; not becuase they expect to build buildings that are able to withstand anything thrown at them, but because they want to make sure to build them as strongly as is reasonably possible, and they have a new set of considerations (and, unfortunately, a new test-case) to factor into their thinking.

One thing that I have not seen mentioned, and that WAS talked about before 9/11, was the folly of having the US military headquarters in a building that is probably more recognizable from the air than any other building on earth. It is an enormous five-sided structure, built in the 1940s when we DID know a lot about what aerial bombardment can do to buildings. Eyewitnesses on 9/11 reported that the plane that hit the Pentagon first soared over downtown Washington, and there was speculation that the Pentagon was a secondary target chosen because the pilot could not identify the White House from the air. I don't know whether or not this is actually what happened, but it seems possible. It's worth considering that there are other ways to make buildings less vulnerable to air attack, besides encasing the structural steel in concrete.

Subject: RE: BS: why did the wtc fall down
From: tremodt
Date: 07 Jan 02 - 01:27 PM

Yes whistle stop

the laws that govern the building of large buildings will be more strenously enforced

and the codes will be updated

Subject: RE: BS: why did the wtc fall down
From: 53
Date: 07 Jan 02 - 03:25 PM

it got hit by a airplane, as if you had'nt already heard, and that's the reason it fell, boy do your homework, and don't ask such stupid questions. BOB

Subject: RE: BS: why did the wtc fall down
From: PeteBoom
Date: 07 Jan 02 - 04:19 PM

Actually, Bob, the Empire State Building was hit by an airplane. The WTC was hit by two jet aircraft.

According to most pundits I've heard, a jet aircraft of the same size or type of aircraft that hit the WTC, would do similar damage to the Empire State Building. Engineers do not design non-military structures to withstand attack.

'K - I'm done with this thread...

Subject: RE: BS: why did the wtc fall down
From: GUEST,in the Mudcat Observatory Tower
Date: 07 Jan 02 - 05:14 PM

Reading through this thread, it seems that the Mudcat politically correct orthodoxy has determined that referring to the 9/11 mass murderers as "Arab-Muslim" is racist.

The fact of matter is, and remains, that every single one of the 9/11 mass murderers was an Arab-Muslim. All published and broadcast information, has indicated that being an Arab-Muslim was an essential qualification for this evil mission.

It is racist to deny that component of the discourse.

Does that mean that any Arab-Muslim who did not participate in the events 9/11 deserves any guilt by association? Of course not, only a racist would say so.

Subject: RE: BS: why did the wtc fall down
From: tremodt
Date: 07 Jan 02 - 08:12 PM

i too am through with this thread

4 ever

roisin

Subject: RE: BS: why did the wtc fall down
From: 53
Date: 07 Jan 02 - 09:00 PM

me three. BOB

Subject: RE: BS: why did the wtc fall down
From: tremodt
Date: 12 May 02 - 03:29 PM

I was asked to add to a thread so...

This thursday May 16 NOva is going to have a show on why the WTC fell down

Subject: RE: BS: why did the wtc fall down
From: Noreen
Date: 12 May 02 - 07:53 PM

You were asked to add to a music thread...

Subject: RE: BS: why did the wtc fall down
From: tremodt
Date: 12 May 02 - 10:25 PM

no noreen you are wrong at any rate i am adding it here

why do you ANSWER THREADS TYHAT DONE HAVE ANY THING TO DO W MUSIC ????