Mudcat Trouble

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: GUEST,Desdemona
Date: 08 Jan 02 - 10:06 AM

Thanks!

The check is in the mail......

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Go to Part 2 (click)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: SharonA
Date: 07 Jan 02 - 05:49 PM

Desdemona: See MMario's post of 04-Jan-02 - 04:36 PM on this thread. Make checks payable to "The Mudcat Cafe" per Max's post of 04-Jan-02 - 06:08 PM.

Everybody else, see PART 2 of this thread, entitled "MC Trouble and AUCTION!!" The blueclickey link to it is in Sorcha's post, 3 posts above this one.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: GUEST,Desdemona
Date: 07 Jan 02 - 05:28 PM

Max, Can you post a mailing address for contributions?

PS---Tweed, I have that same edition of "Look", but it's literally in tatters!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: breezy
Date: 07 Jan 02 - 04:14 PM

What's $20 for a such a superb facility.I'm in education too but I'm also into appreciation.There's $100 from 2 of us at least heading West.Look upon it as subsciption in arrears.$5 a month arrears.Peace be with you all, and in all our hearts.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Sorcha
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 07:06 PM

100 posts here now; please post to Part 2, located HERE! Then, go to the Auction and bid on something. Books, sheet music, jewlery, magazines and MORE!!

(Guests, this is your prime opportunity. You must be a member to bid in the Auction. It's free and relatively painless. If you have ever found the answer to your obscure question or a Desperately Needed! set of lyrics here, please help out. Just join up and help Max keep the Cafe open.)

Plug over........(InObu, where are you when we need you? grin.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Lanfranc
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 06:55 PM

I've just added my copy of the Weavers Song Book to the Auction. Not because I don't want it, believe me, but because I thought that it might have the most appeal to MudCatters both sides of the pond.

The initial bid is only $10, but I would be disappointed if it didn't make more.

PM ing Max re further contribution.

MudCat mustn't die!

Alan

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Gareth
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 06:22 PM

Kenny B

PM en rout to you.

Bill Sables, Bill will you contact Me I don't know what handle you are using at the moment. Max or Brezy has telephone numbers.

Gareth

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Tweed
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 06:02 PM

I've added my January, 1968 Look magazine with the psychedelic shots of the Beatles. If it doesn't fly I'll send you the $2.00 start off bid Max.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Miken
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 05:49 PM

Check mailed today. Mike Nelson

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 04:31 PM

Just added an old Pete Seeger book, a Kate Wolf songbook, and a Mel Bay banjo book. Seven days on these items with 100% to Max/Mudcat. Worthy cause -

Steve

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Susan from California
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 01:56 PM

I want to challenge all of the 'cat folks involved in education to beat or match my $20 donation.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: MudGuard
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 09:56 AM

John, good idea, the collection at Stony Stratford.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: breezy
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 09:47 AM

I'm arranging for my 'courier' to take it out 17th Jan. Gareth is with me. One cheque, in an envelope, to be sent by mail on landing, thats the plan.PM me or Gareth. The amount is up to each catter.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 09:01 AM

Gareth-pm me when the UK end is set up.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: John Routledge
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 07:49 AM

Gareth

Assuming time factor no problem how about a whip round at Stoney Stratford? Geordie

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: nutty
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 07:48 AM

Maz .... you will receive my contribution via Sandy and Caroline at Folk Legacy. Saves messing around with sterling.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: bflat
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 05:59 PM

Max, I'm gonna give you some help too. I don't pledge to my favorite public radio for another month so you can have that money first.

Ellen

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 05:48 PM

I just registered on PayPal, and will have the bank account verified within about four days, and a contribution sent by the end of the week.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: weepiper
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 05:02 PM

Gareth, keep us posted about possible UK pool effort please.
Holly

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 04:23 PM

Gareth, me too please.
Keith.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Ma-K
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 04:18 PM

The check is in the mail. Wish it was more......Mary

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 04:14 PM

Max is already sitting on a veritable goldmine. I refer to the Mudcat software. There is no other discussion group on the net which is so user-friendly. (The software, I mean)

Try this site for a typical example of a commercial website with discussion groups which are an absolute nightmare to navigate round. And that site is typical of thousands of sites on the net. Heavy duty commercial sites, not shoestring enthusiast efforts.

If it were possible for the Mudcat software to be grafted onto sites like the above in order to facilitate the dicussion groups, then Max is a potential millionaire. The only site I have ever visited which is anything like as friendly and easy to use is the MIMF Forum, and even that falls well short of Mudcat standards.

However, I do ewalize that all this won't help to pay the rent this month, so I shall send a contribution too. Hope it all works out, Max. Murray

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Gareth
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 03:54 PM

Ok Jeanie - I am not happy with the idea of putting notes in envelopes.

Watch this space for further details but pooling is not a bad idea. Though something permenant should be worked out. I am waiting on a response from the States to see if the easist solution is on or not.

For the meantime if Osman bin Ladin can get money into the States I don't see why the Mudcat should not be able too!

Gareth

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Jeanie
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 03:48 PM

Yes - thanks Gareth. It really would make sense for the British contribitions to be pooled together, to save on bank transfer charges. I'm rather dubious about sending banknotes through the mail, even by registered post. Do let us know the best way to send, and where to. Thanks.

Jeanie

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: oombanjo
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 03:37 PM

I hope to run into bill Sables this wed,I will see what we can do from this end. Its also nellie's weekend I will pass the word around on Sunday. Question? What can we mudcatters do to remove this problem FOR GOOD.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Cappuccino
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 02:48 PM

Gareth - would you PM me about arrangements from Britain? I'm out of work at present, but I can put a few quid with yours, if that's OK.

- Ian B

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Giac
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 02:28 PM

Money order will be in the mail Monday.

Mary

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Alice
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 02:16 PM

Next to my link to the Mudcat on my website, I have a link for donating to the Mudcat/DT through PayPal. I don't know if anyone has ever sent money using that link, but it has been there for quite awhile... in fact it had the old address for Mudcat, so I'm glad this thread has the new address and email for sending donations. I suggest anyone who has a site that links to Mudcat include a link to make it easy for donations to be sent to Max. Here's how I did it:
Click Here - Sign up for Pay Pal and donate to the Mudcat.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Don Firth
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 02:10 PM

Check on the way.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Mudlark
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 02:01 PM

Dear Max...

Thanks for the call for help...my "Widow's mite" will be in the mail today...just wish it could be more...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 01:40 PM

Max .. I will pop a cheque in the mail tomorrow ... it won't be worth much ... being Canadian Funds and all! If it doesn't arrive in time to help out this month..then feel free to put it towards your beer tab.

LL

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Charley Noble
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 12:12 PM

Yep, it's on the way with a new Pay Pal account. Hope I don't get stung!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Charley Noble
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 11:52 AM

I'll see if I can figure out how to donate $50 some way. Sounds like we really need a long time solution.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: wysiwyg
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 11:49 AM

Now in the auction, but not closing too soon--

The Newport Folk Festival Songbook, edited by our own Jean Ritchie (Mudcat member kytrad). Please contact me if you can help promote this item beyond the Mudcat. This could become a fairly high-ticket item.

(I had explored sending this book around for artists' autographs to increase the value, but it turned out that there were several practical problems with that, including the fact that many participating artists are no longer living. And now that Max has asked for help... well, I guess it's time to let this treasure go, as is.)

So spend away NOW on those other excellent current auction items-- and start saving up for this one! And if you bid, feel free to ask me for a scan of any song in it as a special sample.

~Susan

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: skarpi
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 09:56 AM

Halló Max , and all others freinds of Mudcat. There will be money or check on the way In next week can´t give much It will count, and It will take a week or two to get to you but thats okei. All the best Skarpi Iceland.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Midchuck
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 09:12 AM

The Check Is In The Mail...

No, Really!!!!

Peter.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: fat B****rd
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 08:54 AM

Hang in there, Max fB type donation on the way when I find my credit cards All the best from the fB

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 08:42 AM

And Kendall, I will bid like a madman on that issue of Sing Out!

OK Mick, put yer money where yer mouth is! Only three days left! hehe

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: breezy
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 07:08 AM

get it on Gareth but I have a mate going back stateside in 2 weeks so I'll ask him to pay for me, I'm reckoning on $50 'bout £35.Dont want to let banks profit.Typical Taff! My mate is a Padsta'blue 'oss and he'll be back here again for May-day,cos he's lead accordion, although he now lives Searsport, maine.
I appreciate what this site provides, and thank you Max.Please confirm address for cheques by post.I could post a £50 bill, although it might go missing.Why dont you join the single currency?Euros are all the rage are they not.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 06:17 AM

ABOUT PAYPAL: FWIW, after recommending it, I feel I need to direct your attention to this site which I didn't know about before. Apparently some people have had problems with PayPal, esp. if they are from outside the USA.

That same site also has a page of suggested altenatives, one of which is AnyPay, which they recommend for anyone overseas.

Hope this helps and I would also recommend asking Max what his experiences with PayPal are.

Thanks,

kat

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 12:01 AM

Good for you, TeriLu!

Don Meixner has just added one of his beautiful sterling silver bracelets to the auction. 100% of the proceeds to go to the Mudcat. Please be sure to take a look.

Thanks,

kat

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: TeriLu
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 10:44 PM

What a wonderful world it would be if:

Tax money went to Mudcat and like wonders instead of "guns and swords and uniforms." The Arts, and the Art of Being Human were valued more than profit-making and power-tripping. Everyone spent on Mudcat and like wonders what they spend on cable TV. So, five bucks/month is $60/year, or less than 17cents/day. I can handle that. Peace, TeriLu

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 10:43 PM

KC, you go through your bank and all I have to do with Wells Fargo is give the name and address of the payee. As easy as that. I log in at their website, choose BillPay, then set up the payee account with the name and addy, then choose whether to make it an every month type of payment or a onetime thing. I pay almost all of my bills this way and have never had a problem with it.

FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN CHECKING OUT PAYPAL, please watch this space. Jon has just alerted me to some potential problems with non-US accounts. I am waiting for another PM from him before posting anything.

Have put a rose and clear quartz bracelet,designed and beaded by moi, in the auction. Thanks, MMArio, for the first bid!

kat

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: CarolC
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 10:16 PM

Calendar order going out in tomorrow's mail.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Morticia
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 10:13 PM

Gareth, I'd be happy to help out with setting up the U.K end of things.....pm or e-mail me and let's move on it PDQ.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: WyoWoman
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 10:07 PM

Kat -- any details on how to set it up as a regular withdrawal from our checking accounts? How do we know where to route the money?

ww

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 10:02 PM

No available funds to speak of at the moment, but is Mudcat worth one hell of a lot to me? BET YOUR ASS IT IS!

Check the Mudcat auction in a couple of days....should be something there that might fetch a few serious bucks.

Cheers

Rick

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Big Red
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 09:56 PM

Max---My check is on the way. Please let us know if all works out and please don't be reluctant to bring it up again when the need arises. We are in this together.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: SINSULL
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 09:27 PM

I just sent one via Paypal too...but got a message that since I chose not to include a return address, Mudcat might refuse it. Yeah, right.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Deckman
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 09:16 PM

Max ... I just mailed some cash. Thanks, Bob(deckman)Nelson

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 09:06 PM

Hi, Max:

I just sent a contribution via Paypal. Being one of the new fish in the pond, I still appreciate what you're doing, and wouldn't want the water to dry up. I'm too young to go amphibious.

Jerry

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Gareth
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 08:49 PM

Tried PayPal - but as I am one of those who uses "Switch" ( a UK based Debit Card) PayPal would not acept. Regret it must be used notes in a plain browm envelope by Air Mail.

Max Please Mail me if you anticipate any problems receiving used £20 note or so by mail.

Gareth

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: SINSULL
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 08:43 PM

Kendall's auction is limited to FOUR DAYS. Anyone interested should bid fast and bid high.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Ebbie
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 08:31 PM

OK- caught the mailman in time- a check from me should reach Pennsylvania and the Mudcat coffers within the week. Should take only 4 or 5 days to the lower 48 but on occasion it has taken 11 days- I decided long ago that there are times when they hold the plane in Juneau until it is FULL.

There is nothing else that I get from the Internet that I appreciate more than having Mudcat in my life. Thanks, Max, for leveling with us.

Eb

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Jeri
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 08:22 PM

I owe Max for the calendar. so THAT money will be going out. Unfortunately, my bank balance is at a low it hasn't seen for at least 2 years. The good news is I have a basement full of antique type things: salt & pepper thingies, salt dips, books, books and more books. At least I can get some unique, hard-to-find things in the auction.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: mooman
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 08:03 PM

Just added a rare item in the Mudcat auction, 100% proceeds to Mudcat and I'll see what else I can do to help.

All the best

mooman

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 07:59 PM

Good for you, Gareth!

Here is a link to the PayPal International FAQs page for all of you who are elsewhere than the USA.

GUEST 6:07p, thanks for putting in the general link for PayPal.

kat

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: GUEST,guest Robin2
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 07:25 PM

My little bit is in the mail as well...January is tough, but hope this helps.

Robin

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Gareth
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 07:25 PM

Kat has it right - small but regular amounts are the answer. And yes " standing orders ( a lttle bit every month ) are the answers.

I am very happy to assist with the management of a Uk/EU collection account BUT to protect myself and the Mudcat I will require other trustees.

I wear a number of hats. Including Treasurer of a Trade Union Area in South Wales, and no way am I prepared to acept responsibility without a transparent accounting and multiple signature control.

I had a quick word with our local Postmaster in the Pub tonite. The minimum fee for a Post Office international money transfer is £12 say $20.00. If you were to use a Bank double that fee.

I trust you can see why I have my doubts about the efficiency or cost effectiveness of using normal methods of cash transfer.

This does not overcome Max's immediate problem - and I beg to remind non UK ot EU Catters that the US of A is not a Welfare State (Unless you are an Oil Co. or an Airline)

It may be that we may have to put £20.00 or 50 Euro notes in an envelope, and let Max or Dick change them over the counter.

Thats the problem but if you want the Cat and DT to continue we will have to find a working solution.

I am open to PM;s for suggestions.

But on an historical note I beg to remind European catters what a debt we owe the US of A on both "Lend Lease" and the "Marshall Plan" So lets do it, and to niss quote Churchill "Let the Old world come to the assistance of the New ".

Gareth

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: kendall
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 07:14 PM

Just give it a good home, Mick, sob, sniffle.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: GUEST,Mickey191
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 07:13 PM

Max, It'll be in the mail tomorrow. Good Luck. Mickey

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: artbrooks
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 07:11 PM

PayPal enroute

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Big Mick
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 06:58 PM

In all my time here, I have never seen my dear friend come right out and say it like that. Congratulations, Max, for putting it where it belongs. My check will be on the way next week.

Please, folks. Think of what you get out of this place and drop a few in the mail.

And Kendall, I will bid like a madman on that issue of Sing Out!

Mick

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Burke
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 06:58 PM

I thought I'd use PayPal, but thought I'd read the User Agreement before I clicked on through. 36 pages!! I would have wanted smaller type, but not that much smaller.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Helen
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 06:43 PM

I'll check out PayPal, or I can send it on Visa, when you set the secure server up again.

"I'm pretty sure this is just a temporary desperation. January is the only month I do not teach, and that lack of income hurts right now."

Snap & double ditto: I wonder how many teachers around the world starve in the off-month(s) of the year. It's January for me too, here in Oz, when life gets a little difficult, but due to a set of unrelated circumstances I happen to have enough to make the donation I've been meaning to make for quite a while.

Helen

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: SharonA
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 06:24 PM

Awright! Thanks for the quick answer to my question. The check goes in the mail tomorrow morning (after I deposit my paycheck!). :^)

Sharon

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 06:23 PM

I believe PayPal works for those in countries other than the US, also.

I think it came to the point of needing regular monthly pledges, much like NPR, quite a while ago.

One of the easiest ways to do this is to set up an automatic payment through one's bank. My bank is online and I have set it up, without any need to go to the bank or call in. Every month, on a certain date, $10 gets deducted from my account and sent to Mudcat. All I have to do is remember to deduct it in my checkbook.

It isn't a lot, but like the widow's mite in the Bible, if we all give a "mite" it ADDS UP!! AND, WE HAVE TO DO IT ON A CONSISTENT BASIS.

Thinking up premiums, such as CD's, T-shirts, etc. is fine, except they require an initial layout of time and money for Max and I don't think we should ask that of him, esp. right now. We get music, info, comaraderie, and "family" that is worth a zillion times more without him asking for anything in return, really, SO let's just do it! Make a monthly commitment and DO IT!

And, thank you:-)

kat

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Art Thieme
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 06:18 PM

Max, we're with you. Put that book I sent you in the auction. It could help out.

Art

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Max
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 06:08 PM

Making checks out to Mudcat Cafe is just fine. Also, I do have a paypal account. If you get or have a paypal account, just choose send money and use [e-mail] as the email address you are sending it to. And yes, their cut is very small, so its not a bad option. Thanks everybody.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 06:07 PM

www.paypal.com

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: GUEST,Mark Clark (via public proxy)
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 06:05 PM

For some reason, Max, your part of the Internet is no longer available to me. I'm going through Anonymizer.com. I can't ping you or traceroute back to you so I used the old end-around trick.

PayPal works great and, as far as I can tell, is very secure. The registration process has a few extra steps in it but is all the more secure for your trouble. It will let you email money to Max right out of your checking account if you wish with no credit card company involved and Max doesn't get to see your account number.

Now let me go see if I have anything to auction.

      - Mark

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: NicoleC
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 05:50 PM

Max,

Another thought on donations -- what about a service like PayPal? It helped on my web site -- some people are leary of sending off a check (not the regulars here, I see!) I just include a link under the "How to Help" section, and voila! I've received donations from folks who just happened to drop by and find the answer to their burning question, and they sent me a few dollars.

PayPal does take a cut, but it's pretty small, and they don't charge any fees to the sender or any fees to keep your account open.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Allan C.
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 05:49 PM

Sharon A, the Mudcat has yet to obtain non-profit status in the eyes of the authorities. It leans heavily toward not-for-profit however. Either way, there is nothing special you need to do on your check.

Some of you may recall that I offered SINSULL a deal in which I would pay the Mudcat $5 per pound for whatever weight loss she might have obtained by the end of the year. What I didn't tell her is that I will add to that a payment at the same rate for my own weight loss during the year. The check goes in the mail on Monday.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Wolfgang
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 05:48 PM

If you do feel compelled to make a contribution we won't stop you. You may do so on our secure server here with Visa or MasterCard , or calling 610-738-9050, or send checks to The Digital Tradition, 28 Powell Street, Greenwich, CT 06831 or The Mudcat Cafe, PO Box 3006, West Chester, PA 19381

That's what I read when following the link 'Support Mudcat'.

But there is no secure server anymore...Makes it difficult for Europeans to help.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: artbrooks
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 05:47 PM

Ditto SharonA...got the address, what's the name?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Sorcha
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 05:41 PM

I'm #17--if we all sent even $10, that's almost the $200...........

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: SharonA
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 05:40 PM

To whom or to what do we make out the check, in order to satisfy whatever requirements there are for a non-profit organization? To "Mudcat"? To Max? To a non-profit corporation name??? Please answer soonest, so I can write a check!

Sharon

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Deda
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 05:39 PM

Mine, too -- smaller than it should be but it's something.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: DougR
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 05:24 PM

My check is in the mail, Max. Keep a stiff upper anything.

DougR

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: MMario
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 05:21 PM

just go ahead and do so. you wish to subscribe to the mudcat for "X" amount per month? then send that amount monthly to the 'cat.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: gnu
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 05:20 PM

That would screw up the non-profit status, Mary.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Maryrrf
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 05:13 PM

I just ordered my calendar and will also send a donation. But really I think it's time to do things on a subscription basis rather than having Max have to ask for help when he needs it and funding Mudcat the rest of the time out of his own pocket. I certainly would subscribe, pledge or whatever it takes!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 05:04 PM

People should give what their heart, head and pocket tell them is the right amount.

If you think about similar items in your life that give you pleasure and/or assistance - think about what it costs you in a year. How much do you pay for the daily newspaper? How much do you spend on beer? How many CD's do you buy in a year?

When you get answer to those questions, think about maybe giving a portion of that - say the cost of a beer or two per week - and buying good old Max the "beer", but in this case Max will use that "beer money" to keep us all in the pub!

It is great to see that so many people are stepping up to help. Hopefully the rest of the Mudcatter's will also do their part and help.

Ron

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: pattyClink
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 04:55 PM

Okay, the envelope's filled out and the check goes in tonight.

Any others out there who are new to kicking in to the 'cat, please join me, jot the address on an envelope right now. If you're brokish and can't be a continuing underwriter, you're not alone. Send a check for what a good magazine subscription costs, and plan on doing it again next year if not sooner... If that's still beyond the budget, can you write a check for the cost of a beer at the bar, it'll at least be moral support.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: kendall
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 04:51 PM

I'm willing to commit to a monthly donation if it comes to that.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 04:49 PM

This is just the incentive I needed to order my calendar NOW. Keep us posted Max.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: gnu
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 04:47 PM

The last line of my post got cut off.... Tell me if I am out of line, here, Max.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 04:46 PM

Ah yes! It's pledge drive time again folks! Its time to think of all the good things the Mudcat Cafe brings you...serious traditional song discussions from Malcolm Douglas and Masato, music tips from Rick Fielding, original songs from Amos and the Song Challengers, incisive political commentary from McGrath, Little Hawk and Doug R, comical quips from Kendall, brilliant original fiction from Jen and Peter, irreverent comedy from Catspaw, free lessons in political incorrectness from Clinton, help on most any question from Joe and Kat, and the occasional poisoned dart from gargoyle and the guests.

It has been a tough few months since September 11, but dig deep and give what you can...5, 10, 25 bucks multiplied times the number of active Catters will make the difference!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: gnu
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 04:43 PM

May I be so bold... fund raising ideas are great, the more the merrier. The suggestion Gareth made is excellent. The same could apply to Canada, say, regarding the sale of T-shirts... where'd I hear that before ? But, how's this... all North American 'Catters send five bucks RFN... that'll easily cover the month, and more. And then, let's really get down to not just saving Mudcat, but making it strong.

My apologies, Max, for perhaps overstepping my boundaries, but it seems immediate action and a continued effort are required.

BTW, RFN = right quick like.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Hilary
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 04:36 PM

Hi Gareth, excellent idea about a uk bank, does this mean you're volunteering to arrange things ???? ( she said typing with fingers crossed) . H

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Max
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 04:36 PM

Thanks all.

Address is now: The Mudcat Cafe, PO Box 3006, West Chester, PA 19381.

The phone is the same at 610-738-9050. I'm not here as much as I used to be, and have no employees left, so please feel comfortable leaving messages.

We will keep taking plastic, though if its just as easy for you to send a check, please send a check. I should have the online thingy working again this weekend.

Sure, kicks in the balls are fine.

While this crisis is immediate, I'm pretty sure this is just a temporary desperation. January is the only month I do not teach, and that lack of income hurts right now.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: MMario
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 04:36 PM

The Mudcat Café
PO Box 3006
West Chester, PA 19381

same as for snail mail calander payments, etc.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: kendall
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 04:35 PM

I have a treasured copy of SING OUT dated 1961 that I will put in the auction if there is any interest? That was the year Folk Legacy was created, and, there is mention of the Patons moving to Vermont. I will also put up one of my CD's.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 04:33 PM

Having Mastercard and Visa may be the best way to get money transferred from Europe. I order books and cds that way; fees are low.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 04:28 PM

Give us an address.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Gareth
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 04:27 PM

Max

I tried to PM you via "ragtime" but kept getting service not available.

Very sorry to hear about your troubles. I will be seing what I can do personally. Problem is with the UK banks remitance charges for drafts or transfers eat up much of small donations - and if any european catters wish to make donations I doubt if anyone would wish to see 50% of what we donate going into the pockets of the banks.

If this financial state continues could i suggest a deposit account with a London Branch of a bank - with one monthly transfer stateside.

This would give a focus for collection of a number of modest donations, by cheque or by standing order, and enable us who wish to to make continued monthly payments.

Frankley the Mudcat has given me, and I am sure many others, hours of enjoyment - And I for one would like to put something back.

Gareth.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: allie kiwi
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 04:27 PM

Max, just sent you a personal message.

Allie

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 04:20 PM

Max,

Tell us where we can send some checks.

Ron

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 04:19 PM

I've been doing non-commercial radio for 26+ years. People tend to think the airwaves are free, and nowadays people seem to think that most websites are free too.

I don't think people realize how expensive a proposition this is. We are all accustomed to checking in at Mudcat and using all the great features. We don't consider the costs and sacrifices that have gone into this. What Max is done is create a website - no, make that a community - that is different than any other.

Ask yourself how many times PER DAY you check on this site. The conversations, the information, the laughs, etc... this is a site that many of us have come to love.

While we want to keep coming here for our daily fix, it just might go away unless we all kick in. A couple of bucks per month from each of us would help keep this alive and thriving. Think of how much we spend on a daily newspaper, beer, lottery tickets, gum or some other item that makes the day a little better. Isn't Mudcat worth a few dollars? Max isn't asking for help to buy a new Mercedes, he just wants to pay the bills and in turn help each of us.

Give till it helps.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: Amergin
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 04:14 PM

Max...that takes alot of guts to ask for help....

Ok, folks...how about if folks donate x amount of dollars a month they get like a cd...or perhaps the calendar...or something...maybe a compilation cd of mudcatters...I know max has a lot of mp3s and such...or at least he did...or maybe we donate songs and such for it and email them and then he burns them....some one pays like ten bucks a month and that person gets a copy.....or something.....i don't know...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 04:12 PM

Okay Max, we can all dig it....Times are indeed tough and not getting a helluva' lot better....but we got each other in this joint and let's keep the joint!

So how about a few details now that things have changed and all......Like do we still take the plastic money? Where do we send the checks now? Can I kick you in the balls and will it make you feel better? What about the "overseas" group? Got a phone number still? Fill in any particulars that may have changed for everyone....okay?

Still love ya' and I have some pointy-toed boots just for you!!!

Spaw

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: kendall
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 04:08 PM

Let's go folks! Max is man enough to ask for help,so, it's up to us to save our Mudcat.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Trouble
From: gnu
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 04:07 PM

On the way.

Subject: Mudcat Trouble
From: Max
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 03:58 PM

Well folks, it's getting tough around here. Just got back from arguing with our old landlord about our security deposit. Turns out we lost it cause we needed out of our lease one month early. Could have really used that. Onstage has all but dried up and so far I'm having no luck finding work in the real world. January is a tough month for me here, and I'm asking for help. I have no idea how I'm gonna pay Mudcat's January bills. The concrete ones are $270 per month for the ADSL line and $100 per month in electricity. Any help anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated. Fill up that auction with the Christmas presents you didn't want. And thanks to everyone that bought a calendar, every little bit helps.

Signed,

Humbled

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