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Origins: Cumberland Gap
DigiTrad:
CUMBERLAND GAP
Related threads:
Lyr Req: Cumberland Gap (Frank Proffitt) (5)
Chord Req: Cumberland Gap (3)
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Subject: Lyric request: Cumberland gap From: Descamps Olivier, Belgium Date: 04 Jan 97 - 12:45 AM I am looking for the lyric of: - "Cumberlan gap" (trad.). - "There was an old soldier" (trad.) ... and he had a wooden foot ..) - "When the war is through" (used in the soundtrack of the film Custer of the West (by the composer Bernado Segall). - "When will love rule the world"(lyric + composition) also in the soundtrack of the film "Custer of the West" (by the composer Bernado Segall). Thank you for your help. Olivier Descamps Nivelles, Belgium E-mail: descaoli@mail.interpac.be |
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Subject: Lyr Add: CUMBERLAND GAP From: hartley@toto.pitton.com Date: 06 Jan 97 - 10:39 PM This is one of those songs that have many variations. One variation was sung with North and one by the South in the Civil War. Here is one I have heard with only 5 verses. You can probably make up an equal number and be a safe ground in the folk tradition. CUMBERLAND GAP 1--Me and my wife and my wife's pap. We all live down in the Cumberland Gap. CHORUS Cumberland Gap, Cumberland Gap. We all live in the Cumberland Gap.
2--Cumberland Gap is a noted place
3--The first white man in the Cumberland Gap
4--Daniel Boone on Pinnacle Rock,
5--Lay down, boys, and take a little nap. |
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Subject: Cumberland Gap From: Date: 05 Jun 99 - 02:39 AM Does anyone have an ABC or lyrics for this tune? |
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Subject: Lyr Add: CUMBERLAND GAP (Donegan version) From: Will Bakker Date: 05 Jun 99 - 04:24 AM I wrote the lyrics down from a song by Lonnie Donegan. CUMBERLAND GAP (Donegan Version) CHORUS: Cumberland Gap, Cumberland Gap 15 miles on the Cumberland Gap (2x) Verses: Cumberland Gap ain't nowhere 15 miles of Middlesborough I've got a gal six feet tall Sleeps in the kitchen with her feet in the hall Two old ladies sitting in the sand Each one wishing that the other was a man A dollar is a dollar and a dime is a dime And I love you baby most all of the time Donegan performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWA997xM9MI Donegan Studio Recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSB-TMKkij0 |
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Subject: RE: Cumberland Gap From: Tucker Date: 05 Jun 99 - 11:03 PM No but having been there if you find the tune I am interested in hearing it. |
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Subject: RE: Cumberland Gap From: Night Owl Date: 06 Jun 99 - 01:16 AM The lyrics to a children's song I know called "Cumberland Gap" are: "Oh, the Cumberland Gap is a mighty fine place" 3x "Three kinds of water to wash your face. "Daniel Boone on Pinnacle Rock" 3x "Shot the bear with an old flintlock. "Lay down boys, and take a little nap" 3x "Fourteen miles to the Cumberland Gap"
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Subject: RE: Cumberland Gap From: AllisonA(Animaterra) Date: 06 Jun 99 - 02:26 AM Also from a kids book:
Danced our way home to Cumberland Gap. |
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Subject: RE: Cumberland Gap From: John in Brisbane Date: 06 Jun 99 - 07:59 PM I must admit I thougjt that this would be a fairly easy tune to source. I'm no Bluegrass guru - is this the normal name or spelling of the tune?
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Subject: Lyr Add: CUMBERLAND GAP From: Gene Date: 07 Jun 99 - 07:14 PM A similar version including some of the above verses CUMBERLAND GAP Traditional Me and and my wife and my wife's pap [3x] We all live down in Cumberland Gap. CHORUS Cumberland Gap, Cumberland Gap - Hummm! Way down yonder in Cumberland Gap. Cumberland Gap is a noted place Three kinds of water to wash your face. [3x] CHORUS The first white man in Cumberland Gap [3x] Was Doctor Walker, an English chap. CHORUS Daniel Boone on Pinacle Rock [3x] He killed Injuns with his old flintlock. CHORUS Lay down boys and take a little nap [3x] Fo'teen miles to the Cumberland Gap. CHORUS Hummm! becomes a YELL! |
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Subject: Lyr Add: CUMBERLAND GAP (Traditional/Lomax) From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Date: 23 Sep 01 - 08:39 PM CUMBERLAND GAP* Lay down, boys, and take a little nap *The Cumberland Gap is that part of West Virginia bordering on Kentucky and Tennessee. In June, 1862, General Morgan captured the Gap and then lost it under pressure from Confederate forces on September 17, 1862.
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Subject: Lyr Add: CUMBERLAND GAP (Unknown) From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Date: 23 Sep 01 - 09:09 PM CUMBERLAND GAP* Lay down, boys, and take a little nap, From Soldiers' Songs which is a part of Songs of The Civil War
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Subject: RE: Lyric request : Cumberland gap From: toadfrog Date: 24 Sep 01 - 12:47 AM It's already on digitrad: CUMBERLAND GAP Truly, there is nothing new under the sun! |
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Subject: RE: Lyric request : Cumberland gap From: Gypsy Date: 20 Feb 02 - 11:06 PM Well, as long as we are discussing Night they drove Old Dixie down, thought it was apropos to refresh this thread. Had forgotten that there was north and south lyrics for it. |
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Subject: RE: Lyric request : Cumberland gap From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Date: 20 Feb 02 - 11:49 PM Here is a song which mentions historical events- but the song has NO history of its own before the 1920s. It is a fiddlers dance tune. WHEN words were set to it is unknown, but probably in the 1930s. The traditional Ballad Index sets 1934 as the first time written lyrics appeared , but I suspect that they were very slightly older. No authors are listed. Listen to the Southern Kentucky Mountaineers play the tune on www.honkingduck.com Here Click on 78s and go to titles under "C" One of the verses above mentions spiking Long Tom. Some might not be aware that this was a field piece with a long range for the time. The common method of spiking was to pour molten lead into the barrel. Another was to set an explosive charge in the barrel. |
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Subject: RE: Lyric request : Cumberland gap From: Gypsy Date: 21 Feb 02 - 10:40 PM Reallllleeeee? Thanks for sharing, had no idea that it was written as recently as that. Just figured it was written at the timeline suggested. |
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Subject: RE: Lyric request : Cumberland gap From: Steve in Idaho Date: 22 Feb 02 - 12:58 PM Actually spiking comes from the days of wooden ships. Often a boarding party would sneak aboard a ship and "spike the guns" by driving a spike, or nail, (could be wood or steel) into the fuse hole. Or the guns would be spiked to prevent their use by the other side in the event of being defeated. In the case of a position in danger of being over run by "pressure from the Southern forces" would preclude the time necessary to melt lead and pour it down the barrel. But taking a nail and driving it into the fuse hole and snapping off the top of it would render the gun useless. Sorry for the thread creep *BG* Steve |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cumberland Gap From: GUEST,kyler brooks Date: 28 Jun 10 - 09:56 PM I want to listen to it now |
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Subject: Lyr Add: CUMBERLAND GAP (Frank Proffitt) From: Roberto Date: 29 Jun 10 - 04:09 AM A fine recording of Cumberland Gap, sung by Frank Proffitt, in the anthology High Atmosphere: Ballads and Banjo Tunes from Virginia and North Carolina, Rounder Records (1975): CUMBERLAND GAP (Frank Proffitt version) Well, I'm goin' to Cumberland Gap See my granny and my grandpap When I die, I make a will I want to be buried on Cumberland Hill Cumberland Gap, oh Cumberland Gap Everybody headin' for the Cumberland Gap Listen here, Katy, if you don't care Leave my liquor jug a-settin' here It's not here when I get back I'll raise the devil in Cumberland Gap Well, ox to the wagon, everything packed Everybody headin' for the Cumberland Gap Cumberland Gap is not my home I'm gon' leave old Cumberland alone Proffitt recording (may not play in all locations): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L82atV1oic8 |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cumberland Gap From: GUEST,Pappy Fiddle Date: 03 Aug 10 - 10:57 PM See _The Last Confederate General: John C. Vaughn and His East Tennessee Cavalry_ By Larry Gordon. On p. 44, Gordon claims that "Cumberland Gap" was a popular ballad "even before the Civil War" and that new lyrics were put to it in celebration of Morgan's retreat from the Gap in 1862. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cumberland Gap From: Lighter Date: 03 Mar 18 - 08:25 PM The song was first recorded in 1924, first mentioned (apparently) in 1914 (having been heard in the Great Smoky Mountains ca1905). Beyond that, there's no telling when the tune appeared or when the Civil War lyrics were first sung. Not every version has them. |
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Subject: RE: Origins: Cumberland Gap From: Joe Offer Date: 03 Mar 18 - 10:20 PM Here's the Traditional Ballad Index entry on this song: Cumberland GapDESCRIPTION: Stories of the settlement of Cumberland Gap. Texts may have a variety of verses, about exploration or the Civil War. The chorus is diagnostic: "Lay down boys and take a little nap; (Fourteen miles to the) Cumberland Gap."AUTHOR: unknown EARLIEST DATE: 1924 (recording, Uncle "Am" Stuart, followed in the same year by recordings by Land Norris, Gid Tanner & Riley Puckett) KEYWORDS: exploration settler Civilwar dancing dancetune HISTORICAL REFERENCES: 1750 - Thomas Walker explores and names Cumberland Gap Jun 18, 1862 - Union troops under G.W. Morgan occupy the Gap after James Rains (who is outnumbered by two to one) evacuates the pass Sep 17, 1862 - Morgan evacuates the Gap, his retreat having been cut off by Bragg's and Kirby Smith's campaigns in Kentucky Oct 22, 1862 - Confederate troops from Braxton Bragg's army occupy the Gap Sept 10, 1863 - Confederates forced from the Gap by troops under Burnside. The Gap will remain in Union hands thereafter FOUND IN: US(Ap,SE,So) REFERENCES (14 citations): Randolph 498, "Cumberland Gap" (1 fragment) BrownIII 329, "Cumberland Gap" (1 text) BrownSchinhanV 329, "Cumberland Gap" (1 tune plus a text excerpt) Roberts, #51, "Cumberland Gap" (1 text, 1 tune) Fuson, pp. 176-178, "Cumberland Gap" (1 text) Silber-CivWarFull, pp. 227-228, "Cumberland Gap" (1 text, 1 tune) Silber-CivWarAbbr, pp. 62-63, "Cumberland Gap" (1 text, 1 tune) Lomax-ABFS, pp. 274-276, "Cumberland Gap" (1 text, 1 tune, composite) Lomax-FSNA 80, "Cumberland Gap" (1 text, 1 tune) Cohen-AFS1, p. 251, "Cumberlan Gap" (1 text) Arnett, p. 31, "Cumberland Gap" (1 text, 1 tune) Botkin-SoFolklr, p. 714, "Cumberland Gap" (1 text, 1 tune) PSeeger-AFB, p. 67, "Cumberland Gap" (1 text, 1 tune) Silber-FSWB, p. 49, "Cumberland Gap" (1 text) ST R498 (Partial) Roud #3413 RECORDINGS: Dock Boggs, "Cumberland Gap" (on Boggs3, BoggsCD1) Jack Burchett, "Cumberland Gap" (on WatsonAshley01) Rufus Crisp, "Cumberland Gap" (on Crisp01) The Hillbillies, "Cumberland Gap" (Vocalion 5024, rec. 1926) Frank Hutchison, "Cumberland Gap" (OKeh 45570, 1932; rec. 1929) Buell Kazee, "Cumberland Gap" [fragment] (on Kazee01) [Byrd] Moore, [Richard] Burnett & [Leonard] Rutherford, "Cumberland Gap" (Gennett 6706/Champion 15653 [as Norton, Bond & Williams]/Supertone 9310 [as Southern Kentucky Mountaineers], 1929 -- a primarily instrumental version; on BurnRuth01, KMM) Land Norris, "Cumberland Gap" (OKeh 40212, 1924) Fiddlin' Powers and Family, "Cumberland Gap" (Victor, unissued, 1924) Don Reno & Red Smiley, "Cumberland Gap" (King 5002, c. 1956) Fiddlin' Doc Roberts Trio, "Cumberland Gap" (Conqueror 8239, 1933) Pete Seeger, "Cumberland Gap" (on PeteSeeger07, PeteSeeger07a) Arthur Smith, "Cumberland Gap" (on McGeeSmith1) Uncle "Am" Stuart, "Cumberland Gap" [instrumental] (Vocalion 5035/Vocalion 14839, 1924)Gid Tanner & Riley Puckett, "Cumberland Gap" (Columbia 245-D, 1924) Gid Tanner & His Skillet Lickers, "Cumberland Gap" (Columbia 15303-D, 1928) Gordon Tanner, Smokey Joe Miller & Uncle John Patterson, "Medley: Cumberland Gap/Gid Tanner's Bucking Mule/Hen Cackle" (on DownYonder) Wade Ward, "Cumberland Gap" [instrumental] (on Holcomb-Ward1) Williamson Bros. & Curry "Cumberland Gap" (OKeh 45108, 1927) CROSS-REFERENCES: cf. "Bonnie George Campbell" [Child 210] (tune) cf. "Dogget's Gap" cf. "Big Stone Gap" (form) NOTES: This melody is played as a dance tune throughout the southeast. - PJS Fuson's unusually long text has also been heavily localized: "September morn in Sixty-two... Morgan's 'Yankee' all withdrew." "They burned the hay, the meal, and meat... And left the rebels nothing to eat." "Braxton Bragg with his rebel band... He run George Morgan to the bluegrass land." Union general George W. Morgan (1820-1893) had occupied the Gap on June 18, 1862 with a division after the oversized Confederate brigade of James E. Rains withdrew. (Rains, incidentally, did his own burning of stores as he pulled out.) In September 1862, though, two Confederate armies under Braxton Bragg and Edmund Kirby Smith were moving into Kentucky (the Perryville campaign). Kirby Smith's force threatened Morgan's communications, and on September 17, he conducted an orderly evacuation. There was no battle, but it would be another year before the Union recaptured the Gap. - RBW Last updated in version 4.2 File: R498 Go to the Ballad Search form Go to the Ballad Index Instructions The Ballad Index Copyright 2017 by Robert B. Waltz and David G. Engle. Here are the lyrics we have in the Digital Tradition. Anybody know where they come from? CUMBERLAND GAP Me and my wife and my wife's pap. We all live down in the Cumberland Gap. cho: Cumberland Gap, Cumberland Gap. We all live in the Cumberland Gap. Cumberland Gap is a noted place Three kinds of water to wash your face. The first white man in the Cumberland Gap Was doctor Walker, an English Chap. Daniel Boone on Pinnacle Rock, Killed many Injuns with his old flintlock. Cumberland Gap is a noted place, Three kinds of water to wash your face. Daniel Boone on Pinnacle Rock, He killed Injuns with 'his old flintlock. Lay down, boys, and take a little nap. Fo'teen miles to the Cumberland Gap This is one of those songs that has many variations. One variation was sung with North and one by the South in the Civil War. Here is one I have heard with only 5 verses. You can probably make up an equal number and be a safe ground in the folk tradition.HX @fiddle @dance filename[ CUMBGAP HX,AJS |
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Subject: RE: Origins: Cumberland Gap From: Lighter Date: 04 Mar 18 - 11:21 AM Thanks for posting, Joe. I did a little poking around and found the following in Keystone Folklore Quarterly II (Spring, 1957), p. 24, coll. by Henry W. Shoemaker: The first white man in Cumberland Gap, The first white man in Cumberland Gap, The first white man in Cumberland Gap, Was Doc Tom Walker, a Virginia chap. Refrain: Lay down,boys, and take a little nap, They're raising cain in Cumberland Gap. Daniel Boone on Pinnacle Rock, He killed Indians with an old flintlock. Cumberland Gap is a noted place, They's three kinds of water to wash your face. Cumberland Gap with its cliffs and rocks, Home of the panther, bear, and fox. Me and my wife and little chap, All made a living in Cumberland Gap. September morn in sixty-two, Morgan's "Yanks" they all withdrew. They spiked "Long Tom" on the mountain top, And over the cliffs they let him drop. They burned the hay, the meal, and meat, And left the "Johnnies" nothing to eat. Braxton Bragg with his "Secesh" band, He run old Morgan to the blue grass land. The "Johnnies" now will give their yell, They'll scare the "Yankees" all to hell. Shoemaker's note: "From the singing of 'Roaring Joe' Campbell, Ario Pardee's chief log driver, Loyalsockville, Lycoming County [Pennsylvania], about 1880-1890." Shoemaker (1880-1958) either learned the song as a child or got it from someone who'd known Campbell. |
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Subject: RE: Origins: Cumberland Gap From: BanjoRay Date: 04 Mar 18 - 12:07 PM No-one's mentioned a couple of verses I've often heard in sessions: Old aunt Kate and old aunt Sal Old maids sure got a pretty little gal If I get there I'll buy me a farm Grow sweet 'taters long as your arm Cheers Ray |
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Subject: RE: Origins: Cumberland Gap From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler Date: 04 Mar 18 - 12:28 PM There was a spoof version around in the Bristol (UK) area in the 1960s. I don't remember the words but there was a problem with the road system in Brisol at the Cumberland Basin and so the song was adapted to fit bridging the Cumberland Gap. Robin |
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Subject: RE: Origins: Cumberland Gap From: Lighter Date: 04 Mar 18 - 12:30 PM Retired coal miner Archie Perry, of Jenkins, Kentucky, sang this couplet and chorus in 1976: Me and my wife and an ol' hound dog Floated down the river on a hickory log. Cumberland Gap, Cumberland Gap, We'll all go down to Cumberland Gap. I believe that was all he knew, probably learned in the '20s. |
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Subject: RE: Origins: Cumberland Gap From: michaelr Date: 05 Mar 18 - 08:06 PM David Rawlings, genius guitar player with Gillian Welch, has written a new song with the same name: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjnTSBhUSlw |
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