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Subject: RE: Beer From: 53 Date: 12 Jan 02 - 12:18 AM i don't have a beer gut, cause i don't drink. BOB |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: WyoWoman Date: 12 Jan 02 - 12:26 AM Now, Raptor (I believe it was you who posted way up there about American vs. U.K. tastes in beer), there are those of us Americans who can't stand the watery beer that passes for brew here in the U.S. of A. I like stout beer, drink Guinness when I can, also lots of tasty bolder brews. I'll try the stouts and porters at whatever brew pub I visit, but stay away from the lightweight beers and the wheat beer and lemon beers and who knows whatnot. I can't imagine why anyone would pay for beer and then end up drinking water! GaryT has turned me on to some Kansas City brews from, I think, the Boulevard brewery, and I like those very well. I also like Fat Tire (or used to ... I've heard they've been bought by a big company and will probably start tasting lie budweiser soon. Ick. I hope this is an ugly rumor.) I like Chimay Ale when I can find it. Brewed by Belgian monks as part of their service to God. This kind of devotion, I can appreciate. ww |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: DonMeixner Date: 12 Jan 02 - 12:41 AM Best beer I ever had was some stuff my brother Gary made for the family reunion about 4 years gone. The taste was .... excellent. Light beer is for people who don'tr like beer and just want to pee. And then theres Hamm's People who drink Duquesene have no money. People who drink Budweiser have no imagination. People who drink Iron City have no mind to imagine with. Kohler beer the pale dry stale ale with the head on the bottom. BUt for a good clean taste thats affordable I like Killian's at just less than room temp. Don |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Gareth Date: 12 Jan 02 - 02:27 AM Dicho - I xan't spell when I'am sobrt ! Gareth |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: GUEST,frankie Date: 12 Jan 02 - 04:49 AM My current beer of choice is Sierra Nevada Porter but I'll pretty much drink whatever is put before me. Last night I sampled some Old Suffolk Ale out of a bottle and it was truly fine. Belhaven on tap is also good when you can find it and north of here in Tampa the Ybor City Brewery turns out an excellent lager called Ybor Gold. f |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: breezy Date: 12 Jan 02 - 05:20 AM and Hob goblin and London Pride and Wad 6x and a pint of old Peculiar, and thinking of Keith Marsden, Bring us a Barrel . |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: GUEST, (must reset my cookie again) Jude Date: 12 Jan 02 - 05:43 AM What is the NRA? Jude |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: gnu Date: 12 Jan 02 - 07:21 AM Jude... we can't actually discuss the NRA in a beer thread. I would not have mentioned it except for the reason I stated above. It's the National Rifle Association. There... DONE... no more talk of the NRA or guns. If anyone wants to, they can resurrect recent threads on the matter. This should remain a beer thread as intended. |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: GUEST,Gern Date: 12 Jan 02 - 09:57 AM What a stimulating thread, even before 10AM. I've sampled everything from microbrewed status symbols to Piels big mouths and Stegmaier longnecks (remember 99 cents a 6-pack?) Guinness draft works best in the short run; Scottish ales appeal to me when a lighter taste is sought. Do they still brew Carlsburg? I remember it as one of the best bottled beers I've enjoyed, but havent seen it in years. Finally, showing my true colors, am I the only one who misses Rheingold? |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: JohnB Date: 12 Jan 02 - 10:11 AM Carol, you should come back to Canada and try Creemore's "urBock" (their spelling). Any of the Unibroue beers from Chambly Quebec are worth a try. For an instant buzz Sophoclese try Navigator (10%), it's in the can next to the Giraffe in the beer store. I collect different empty bottles and have about 124 at a quick count. The rule for the collection is that I have to empty them myself. John B, who could make it the Creemore Brewery in about 20 min if he was in a hurry and drinks Guiness mostly when he's out. |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: breezy Date: 12 Jan 02 - 10:56 AM NATIONAL RIVERS AUTHIORITY, nATIONAL rECORD OF aCHIEVEMENT |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: RichM Date: 12 Jan 02 - 11:17 AM As a Canadian beer drinker, my main gripe about the popular brands is that they are brewed from Toronto and Montreal city water. No thanks. If I wanted to drink recycled waste, it's cheaper to go right to the source. I prefer local beers brewed from spring water. Rich McCarthy |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: artbrooks Date: 12 Jan 02 - 11:26 AM Oh course, for pure bad, nothing quite beats 110 degree Columbia loaded in a 100 case pallet and dropped from 19 feet from a helicopter. The cases on the outside of the load explode and you can't touch the rest for days...they just sit there and look at you...and you look at them... |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: gnu Date: 12 Jan 02 - 11:37 AM Actually, if you get right down to it, I like the beer commercials better than the beer. Except for those insipid I AM CANADIAN ones. If there ever anything less Canadian, it's them. The best for me were radio commercials for several brands of Newfoundland beer, Blue Star & Black Horse to name a couple. I recall one that aired shortly after a half dozen Eastern Europeans jumped ship in St. John's. The theme was teaching them how to evade immigration by blending in with correct pronunciation like, "Black 'orse, bye." |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Dave the Gnome Date: 12 Jan 02 - 01:25 PM Just had some Youngs double chocolate stout. Mmmmmm!!!! I had forgotton how good it was. Must go. More awaits. I may be some time... DtG |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: GUEST,GUEST Date: 12 Jan 02 - 01:54 PM Anyone remember the commercials from Ranier beer? The wild raniers? Or the "dang artesians" from the Olympia beer commercials? great stuff, without the Swedish Bikini Team insipidness. |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: John Routledge Date: 12 Jan 02 - 02:20 PM Wonderful Wonderful thread. I stopped drinking beer (and alcohol) 6 yrs ago but just realised how lovely it is even to read about it :0) Fortunately I still don't want a pint!! Cheers to you all - Geordie John |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Amergin Date: 12 Jan 02 - 02:21 PM well...when I was back home last summer I was drinking Huckleberry Ale...which was brewed in Couer d'Alene... then there is Moose Drool from missoula.... |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: gnu Date: 12 Jan 02 - 03:11 PM I dunno, GUEST... the idea of six blondes with a bit of meat on their bones showing up at my door AND bringing the beer kinda brings a smile to my lips. |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Don Firth Date: 12 Jan 02 - 03:44 PM Back in the Fifties, Bob Clark, Seattle folksinger and co-proprietor of The Chalet, brewed his own beer. It gained much currency at hoots and songfests, possibly because he usually brought substantial quantities of it in quart bottles, and it was free. People raved about how great it tasted, but to be honest I can't say that I was very fond of it. I thought the flavor was just passable. It struck me as very yeasty. Someone who knew something about brewing beer told me that he didn't like it much, either. He said that Bob's beer was still green when he bottled it. He should have left it in the crock and let it "work" longer. This gave it two outstanding characteristics. For a number of people, including me, one characteristic in particular – its aftereffect – was a major drawback. Now, some people escaped this, but many others did not, and I was among the latter. If you drank very much of the stuff – but still not enough to get a buzz on – you would wake up the following morning with The Mother of All Hangovers. It was a real throbbing, gut-wrenching, nuclear powered, hundred-megaton head-banger. Victims of a religious bent would be convinced that they were finally being visited by the retribution of an angry, Old Testament God. Those who were medically oriented would be certain that the level of agony they were suffering had to be symptomatic of severe brain damage. It was the kind of hangover where every pulse-beat felt as if a hammer were being vigorously applied to the base of your skull. At first, you would be afraid you were going to die; after awhile, you would be afraid you were not going to die. Those who were susceptible to this aftereffect would drink a thimbleful for the sake of conviviality, then move on to the store-bought stuff. And the second characteristic: the instant you popped the cap, the contents erupted in a foamy geyser that surged to an impressive altitude. It then returned to earth in a mighty deluge, drenched the carpet and many of the assembled celebrants, and filled the room with odor of hops and yeast. It was quite a ceremony when Bob opened a bottle. He would usually set the bottle into a dishpan or washtub, apply a bottle opener to the cap, then cover his hand and the bottle with a large towel. Apprehensively, he would begin to manipulate the bottle opener until the cap was ready to go ballistic. As he made these preparations, the assembled company would gather in a circle, then carefully back up several paces to a safe distance. It was like watching somebody blast a stump. These days, I rather fond of some of the products that come from Seattle's microbreweries. Red Hook produces some fairly good stuff. One of theirs is Ballard Bitter. Lot's of people don't especially like it, but I do. It lets you know it's there. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Amergin Date: 12 Jan 02 - 04:23 PM not beer I know...but anymore when I go out I usually have a couple of pints of Blackthorn....wonderful refreshing stuff... |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Sorcha Date: 12 Jan 02 - 05:40 PM I like lots of the micro/craft brews, but they aren't usually found very far from Home Ground as it were. I don't like bitter, hoppy stuff. I do like Ambers, Porter, stout, etc. but don't buy it very often because it is pretty expensive. If you don't like beer at all, you might try a Lambic. It's a "beer" with a champagne finish, and usually quite sweet. Sort of beers answer to wine coolers.......... |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Gareth Date: 12 Jan 02 - 08:06 PM Amergin Blackthorne ?? The dog wn't drink that !! Now a good rough draft cider Ahh! Man now you are talking. Remember a good rough cider is the perfect cure for a cough, after a pint you darn't cough. Gareth |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: The Walrus Date: 13 Jan 02 - 08:00 AM I think many here would enjoy alittle cafe I found in Mons, Belgium, their menu had two pages of food and six pages of beers. Oh, and there is a decent Budweiser on the market, of course it has nothing to do with the muck produced by Anhauser-Busch, it's the ORIGINAL stuff from Budovic (Formerly Budweiss) in the Czech Republic (ISTR reading that, having stolen the name, A-B sucessfully prevented the real Budweiser company from marketing its beer -at least under its own name - in the USA). This thread has made me thirsty, time to open a bottle of "Hen" I think. Walrus |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: GUEST Date: 13 Jan 02 - 08:54 AM Yeah Sorcha, I envy you out there with so many good local beers, Teton ale, Pyramid, Moose Drool, etc. I occasionally drink a Lambic, the major drawback being that it's over $5.00 for a small bottle around here. Here's an interesting site: click this. Hope this works. f |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: GUEST,frankie Date: 13 Jan 02 - 08:56 AM Drat! above link is www.beerme.com. f |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Bruce from Bathurst Date: 13 Jan 02 - 09:51 AM There has been a surprising lack of Australian content in this thread, considering our national dedication to this particular beverage. I've just arrived home from playing music in a beery pub and I had the late night urge to check the Mudcat news (the family's asleep and I'm still buzzing). It's too late to drink beer so I'm having a small dram of Bowmore fine Islay malt whisky to steady the nerves. But beer is a good thing if you don't mind getting out of bed during the night! The Australian thinking beer person should support Cooper's, the only remaining small-ish Australian brewer with a serious stake in most parts of the country. It's good beer, comes in various forms, and it seems to be surviving against the predations of the major companies who tend to acquire any profitable brewer and sanitise its product into that horrible generic product available everywhere. Cooper's Sparkling Ale has added yeast in the bottle to give it a cloudy, unappetising appearance. This deters other people from drinking your beer. John Gray mentioned the very fine Cascade Pale Ale from southern Tasmania. In recent times, Cascade Premium Light has gained a strong following due to its close resemblance to 'real' beer and its low alcohol content (but not in that order). Since this thread has been dominated by northern hemisphere content, may I contribute some comments about 'northern' beer from the end of a hot summer day in New South Wales? I'm pleased to agree with JohnB that the Unibroue beers from Chambly in Quebec are mighty fine. I recommend La Fin Du Monde (9%) and Maudite (8%) as a result of pleasant experiences at the Folk Alliance Convention in Vancouver last February. They are definitely not for quaffing. Thanks to jeffp for reminding me about Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. There's hope for American brewing yet. Very tasty drop. I won't presume to choose favourites from UK beers. Real ale is an art form, a way of life, a passion. And I reckon you have to be drinking it for at least six months to cope with warm beer. Or at least six pints. Whichever comes first. Personally, I find English beer very similar to ballet. It's been around for a long time, I'm sure it takes a lot of skill to produce it, but I find it's too expensive and it takes too long to get to the end. However, the most important aspect of any beer, when we get down to it, is the quality of their t-shirts. Dicho mentioned BigRock from Calgary. I've been wearing my BigRock Warthog Ale t-shirt for years, but my wife won't let me wear it out in public. Same thing goes for my Moose Drool Brown Ale t-shirt from Big Sky Brewing in Missoula MT. She says I make the moose look sad. In 1978 I bought a Fullers ESB sweatshirt in London, but I outgrew it almost immediately. Extra Special Bitter indeed! Now that was a good English beer. Enough. Good night. Bruce
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Don Firth Date: 13 Jan 02 - 12:45 PM How about mead? Can it be bought anywhere in the world? Or do you have to brew it yourself or time-machine yourself back to Beowulf's time? I've never tried it and I'd like to. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Bill D Date: 13 Jan 02 - 02:25 PM I started drinking GOOD beer about 1977, when I moved to the Wash DC area and could buy imported stuff in the stores....strated collecting the bottles/cans about the same time. and like JohnB, the rule is, I have to empty them...I have maybe 700??? (some are in boxes, as I ran totally out of shelf space)...... The thing is, the microbrewery industry in the US was just being revived in 1977, and I have some wonderful memories of following new beers..(I have one bottle from New Albion Brewery, the first 'real' microbrewery to try it..(not counting Anchor, who was sort of always there) I have old bottles from Australia..(Tooths Sheaf Stout...Coopers Real Ale..etc..)...I love Belgian beers, and would kill for an Orval Ale...(or Bios Copper Ale...or Rodenbach).....but we CAN get almost any style of beer brewed in the USA now, and brewpubs are growing daily... (I just had an Old Scrooge Christmas Ale, from Silver City Brewing in WA state....YUM!...brewed 1999, sold 2000, drunk 2001) I think I'll take some digital photos of my 'wall' and post some memories.... |
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Subject: Lyr Add: SEVEN BEERS WITH THE WRONG WOMAN From: Deckman Date: 13 Jan 02 - 04:54 PM I'm a vodka man myself ... being Finn and all. However I thought I could contribute something educational here. Here's a song I learned from John Weiss in 1974. He learned it from the great Alice Stuart who recorded it in the fifties: SEVEN BEERS WITH THE WRONG WOMAN Seven beers with the wrong woman, we sat at a table for two, The next thing I knowed she whispered, Oh boy I could sure go for you, My heart beat a little bit quicker, As I held her dear little hand, I swelled up with pride but Oh how she lied, I sure was a foolish young man. Seven beers with the wrong woman, she made me get up and dance, Around and around we circled, 'till I missed the money from my pants, I asked her if she had seen it, she smiled up at me and said "no", From that day to me, it's a big mystery, I wonder just where it did go. Seven beers with the wrong woman, her husband walked in after that, Soon as he spied us together, He walked up and gave me a spat, He took me by the seat of my britches, oy he sure jerked up the slack, And when I got tossed out the door by the boss, He told me to never come back. Seven beers with the wrong woman, has left me with only regret I guess she was only fooling, when she called me her darling and pet, I wish the Lord had made Adam, and never made any one else, And one thing I know, the next place I go, I'm 'gonna buy fourteen beers for myself! CHEERS, Bob Nelson |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Lonesome EJ Date: 13 Jan 02 - 06:47 PM Well, I'll tell you something. Running down American Beers, and especially Budweiser, is something of a national obsession. But a lot of people who knock Bud and then rave about some Strawberry Blonde sticky-sweet swill...well, they ain't beer drinkers! Bud is a decent pilsner, with a nice hoppy start and very smooth finish, and if you're having more than one, its an easy beer to stick with. And, although I think Guinness is great beer, one is usually plenty for me. I like a lot of pilsners and lagers, and find that the Mexicans are making some of the best erst-while "German" pilsners. I like Tecate and Dos Equis, but Bohemia is one of the best beers obtainable. I like these beers with a fresh lime slice. Sue me. Among German beers, I like St Pauli and Becks, but their very hoppy taste and bitter finish make them a bit stale when drinking more than one or two. Canadian beers...ah well. I have had a few local beers that were good, but the majority (Molson, Labatts, Moosehead) I find characterless. I don't like lemon, honey, strawberries or chocolate in beer. I had a red pepper beer once that had a nice sharp taste. I like many English "Best Bitters" that I've had, but they taste better pulled from the keg, and seem to lose flavor on canning. New Zealanders, I think you have a nice beer in Steinlager, although I've noticed some fluctuation in quality. The worst beer I've ever had was a Belgian beer called Celi's from somewhere in Texas. It had the distinct taste of rotting apples. |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Beer Date: 13 Jan 02 - 06:52 PM Keith's |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: John Gray Date: 13 Jan 02 - 07:02 PM Bruce from Bathurst. I'm going down to the pub (Frankston / Vic )later today Bruce so I'll get a 6-pak of Coopers Special per your recommendation. An interesting website to visit is the Long Distance Travellers. This is a group that tastes all the beers being imported into Australia and reviews them. Bugger of a job but someone has to do it. They are on http://members.ozemail.com.au/~naibor/ldt/start.htm Beside the normal meaning, the word "traveler" is slang in Oz for a can/bottle of beer that you take with you to drink between watering holes e.g. the pub to the party. The number of travelers taken is generally linked to the distance between waterholes. "How far away is the party mate?" "Bout an hour". "Ah, well 'bout 6 travelers each should keep us from dehydratin'" With all the drink driving laws tightened up over the past 25 years the traveler has all but disappeared from urban areas but lives on in the vast outback regions. Long Distance Travellers = beer imported from other countries. JG / FME |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Bill D Date: 13 Jan 02 - 07:36 PM ah,LEJ...no one is going to sue you, but the beers you list as favorites ARE the sort that have gotten the US a reputation as having beer with little flavor, and that must be drunk icy cold to be tolerated. Even the best of those, i.e., Becks and the Mexican beers you name, are fairly bland for MY taste....but as you know, YOU are in the majority. As to Celis..*grin*...send ME all you can't drink!...especially Grand Cru!..Celis had a Belgian background, and I love most of their products. Budweiser?...sorry, I doubt you could pay me to drink one. They have some pretty horses, though....say..I wonder...that Bud 'tang'....nawww, they wouldn't... |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Sorcha Date: 13 Jan 02 - 08:08 PM This is up to 84 posts, so I feel fairly safe doing this. Just recieved the following from a cousin. Tongue firmly in cheek, here friends, this is a JOKE OK!?
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Lonesome EJ Date: 13 Jan 02 - 08:45 PM You know, Bill, I just might have a bottle of that Celi's stuff in the back of the fridge, if it hasn't gone off. But then...how would you be able to tell? Now hand me a Bohemia and a lime slice and bugger off! :>} |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 13 Jan 02 - 08:57 PM Funny how we all have our favorites.. yeah, the micro-brewery craze,fad,movement in this country has been great.Back in the 50's when I first hit drinking age, they used to sell beer at gas stations... a six pack for a buck. Beats twenty minutes of long distance calling. Gas station beer was the lowest form of beverage known to mankind,and the lousiest of the gas station beers in my mind was Carling's Black Label... now graciously defunct, as far as I know. In 1961, I spent a summer 800 miles North of Alaska doing research for Columbia University on an iceberg. Through government incompetence, each man on the Ice Island was given two cases of beer. Theoretically to use to take water samples.) The prized beer of all beers? Yep. Carling's Black Label. And nary a gas station in sight. Jerry |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Justa Picker Date: 13 Jan 02 - 09:01 PM I thought the joke was cute Sorch and appreciate the twist. |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Sorcha Date: 13 Jan 02 - 09:36 PM Apparently nobody else has noticed........grin. |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: O'Trasno Date: 13 Jan 02 - 10:17 PM Sorcha..... Direct Hit! |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Raptor Date: 14 Jan 02 - 08:48 AM Truth be told I'm alergec to beer. 18 or 19 and I get realy sick! Raptor |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Bill D Date: 14 Jan 02 - 10:27 AM the cheap beer when I was in college in Kansas was "Canadian Ace"...79¢ a 6/pack...it was called, tongue-in-cheek, 'Faculty Beer'...the local liquor store kept it stacked in cases right by the front door, and would typically go thru 10-12 cases on a weekend. I wish I'd could get some now...perhaps LEJ would appreciate some...;>)) sure would be boring if we all agreed on taste, huh? |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Dave the Gnome Date: 14 Jan 02 - 11:02 AM Carling Black label is still going in the UK - dunno if it's the same as the 'Gas station beer' mentioned though. I think it is pretty bad but as I said I like the stronger flavoured dark beers. I'm also with Rapter - I used to find that more than 10 pints of Holts bitter would make me turn into the incredible hulk - I'd go green and my shirt would rip open. Mind you, it used to rip from the bottom up for some strange reason... Cheers DtG |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: GUEST,Marc Date: 14 Jan 02 - 01:31 PM Good beer is nice when you haveing a couple. But theres nothing like cheep american yellow beer for large quantities of drinkin' an' jammin'. At home I drink Narragansett, fortunatly for me it's not served in bars anymore, so it's a couple a Guiness then drive home safely. The problem with good beer on draft is, half the time you order it its stale. marc |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Abuwood Date: 14 Jan 02 - 02:24 PM No- one's mentioned Piddle? Am I the only one who likes Piddle in the Hole, Piddle in the Snow, Piddle in the Wind, and of course Royal Piddle only a £1 a pint at my local. Keep your lagers and your cold eurofizz, give me pints of proper beer only. |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Lonesome EJ Date: 14 Jan 02 - 04:22 PM My college beer was Great Lakes, available at Giant Foods for $2.99 a case back in 1970. It was the only beer we could afford in the quantities we needed, and still be able to buy food. Tasted fine after about the seventh one. |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: gnu Date: 14 Jan 02 - 06:20 PM Beer... Keith's ? You must like it a lot. What part of NS are ye from, lad ? |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Burke Date: 14 Jan 02 - 07:44 PM My local brewery, Matt's puts out several that I really like. I guess my favorites that are brewed year round are Saranac Black & Tan and Saranac Black Forest. The problem with US beer drinking is insisting that it be ice cold. Stout that's been in the refrigerator looses half of its taste. Basement temperature works really well to bring out the sweetness & still refresh. I've been on the brewery tour enough to know the difference between ales & lagers. I like ales much better. |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Amergin Date: 14 Jan 02 - 09:42 PM over in astoria, or there is/was (not sure if it is still there) a nice brewpub that had this fine beer called Peacock Spit...we would go there all the time drink a few pitchers and go staggering back.....it had a pleasant atmosphere....the folks who owned the place were friendly...and would sometimes buy us beer...the folks who worked there loved us...they would sometimes do the same...or charge us half price....maybe drunken smiles that place brought us...towards the end of my two year stint there, though it changed hands and then it was no longer so friendly...more businesslike...i would find myself cut off after three pints....stopped going...and then i left astoria... |
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Subject: RE: Beer From: Beer Date: 14 Jan 02 - 10:02 PM Gnu....... I'm from West Chezzetcook but have been living on the outskirts of Montreal for the past 25 years. Finally were able to buy Keith's up this way. Anytime I sit with one in my hand I want to go home. So guess what, I'm jumping in my country caddalic ( Pick-Up ) and leaving Wednesday morning. Where you from Gnu? You must be a Bluenoser or Herring Choker to have notice my reply to the ? of Beer. |
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