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Stony Stratford: doom approaching

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Subject: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: MudGuard
Date: 17 Jan 02 - 09:31 AM

in continuation of The Stony Stratford saga

To all people living in Stony Stratford: You have only 3 weeks to evacuate now before the Mudcatters hit your place - so get moving!


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Dead Horse
Date: 17 Jan 02 - 02:49 PM

All those who would attempt to stop fights breaking out, with or without fire extinguishers, are just a bunch of wet blankets! I gained a first dan in origami, and would have gone on for second dan, but the club folded.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Morticia
Date: 17 Jan 02 - 04:55 PM

I got a Desperate Dan in Pie Folding, so there!


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 04:17 AM

wot date is it on again - I've lost all grip on reality..

Sorry - but I need reminding - my memory is worse than a bag of mould pants.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Trevor
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 05:00 AM

What's wrong with a bag of mouldy pants? Are you part of the indoor camping brigade? I think they should know.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 05:40 AM

It would be really useful if someone that has a clue what's going on would just run through the main 'needs to know' about the weekend (including dates for the more forgetful) such as what is happening when and where, costs involved, who I get to sleep with etc.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 05:47 AM

Yes Tevor, I'm hoping to get there and then be the indoor camping brigade... but no me pants are not mouldy... Dim problem!

Thank you Missus Duck for putting all a bit more eloquently than me... I agree with you one hundred percent.

Ta!


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 05:58 AM

The barricades are going up on the A5, A508, Watling St. etc. They're even going to be checking all cars turning off the M1 at junctions 14, 15 and 15a for guitars, melodeons, whistles, mandolins, bodhrans and kazoos - especially BODHRANS & KAZZOOS......


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 06:10 AM

8th 9th 10th of February. Costs are STILL TBD. Bring something to sleep in/on of you're indoor camping, there's a room set aside for the purpose. If you have any specific alcoholic needs, bring 'em, I'm negotiating for a barrel of bright beer and the offy is not too far. I'll procure some coffee, tea, milk, bread etc and people can sort themselves out in that regard. Eating houses from chippy to fine modern cuisine are available a-plenty in Stony, most pubs do food as well. Certain hostelries are forewarned to our presence and will welcome us with open arms.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 06:29 AM

Tentative schedule:

Friday pm. Meet & greet. I'm planning to have a large pot of inedible gunk simmering away.
Friday evening. Bill Jones gig at the folk club for the terminally antisocial. £4. Beer in York House for everyone else.

On Saturday morning, Gareth has called a meeting in order to discuss various issues to do with matters he is better able to explain. Hopefully we can all reamin sober and sensible enough for an hour or so before the pubs actually open.
Saturday lunch, if all goes according to plan, at Fox & Hounds, in shifts. After lunch, a trip to The Crown with our gracious hosts Steve and Lindy, beer, singing, and choonz.
Saturday evening. impromptu ceilidh and dwyle-flonging.

Sunday Lunchtime, an excursion to The Vaults for the long-standing open session, bring yer kazoo and kilt. This goes on 'til 3pm, and after that I expect to wind down...


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 06:44 AM

...but the rest of you can do as yer please ;-) please please please can you expect to be asked to help clear up on Sunday evening. Beer for helpers, on me.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: JudeL
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 06:47 AM

Does this mean helpers get to fling beer all over you or is that part of the dwily flonking?


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 06:51 AM

Oh for pity's sake. I hope you people aren't expecting to enjoy yourselves you know, this folk music thing is deadly serious.

<g>


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 06:58 AM

Dai, Geoff and I are away without any little people (except Micca) and you want us to behave ourselves - get real!!!


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Morticia
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 08:02 AM

Jane, you are unable to behave yourself even with little people ( reference the unseemly giggling at Llanstock) so don't try and come over all posh with us....and anyone thinking of bringing Malteasers would do well to think again....or be prepared to pay Malteaser tax.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Snuffy
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 08:49 AM

As the only one to get soaked with beer at Llanstock, can I help to initiate the rest of you?

WassaiL! V


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Morticia
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 09:17 AM

A sort of wet tee shirt contest with beer? Interesting thought but personally I'm quite content to let you do the tap and spile thing, Vaughn....
so bring us a barrel


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Snuffy
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 09:22 AM

We did bring a (small) barrel to the trailer at Llanstock, but the Institute kept serving so late that no bugger wanted to drink it at 2.30 a.m.

I might bring one to Stony - but only if you promise to drink it this time!

WassaiL! V


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 09:39 AM

Colourful background info. Nowhere in Stony will serve afters unless you're very well known, as it's such a busy place. So Beer will be required...


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Snuffy
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 09:52 AM

The Institute was Llanstock's equivalent of York House, Dai. Bron had arranged for a couple of firkins from the local micro-brewery, so we drank there both nights till quite late. We only tried the pubs at lunchtime and early evening.

From the prospectus, I quite fancy the following workshops:

  • L-O-N-G Ballads
  • Sick as a parody
  • Improve your whistle playing - or else!
I hope these aren't running simultaneously.

WassaiL! V


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Morticia
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 10:11 AM

I'm having a hard time choosing from the:
How to play bodrhan and still keep your self respect and the
How to sing an 87 verse ballad and administer first aid to those of the audience who have lost the will to live workshops.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 08:02 PM

'Blow it out your Kazoo' had me quite enthralled for a while, but have decided to go for the individual best at chocolate eating instead.

Dwarf hurling is an optional extra, but I understand we will be short on dwarfs as the Ducklings are not coming. We'll have to make do with just the Bratling.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: brid widder
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 08:28 PM

Well I think I'm still OK for this ...there is one possibility that might prevent me being there, however... have no idea how on God's earth I'll get there!!! is anyone coming from the North, I am part of the Hull crowd but aren't sure if any others are coming...I am off work on Friday so wouldn't mind when ...


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: John Routledge
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 09:20 PM

Great to see many friendly faces in great form.

Looking forward to the 8th. Cheers John


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Jan 02 - 11:37 AM

Widder:- I'm coming down from the frozen North and could squeeze you in. It was my intention to stay overnight Thursday with friends in Barmby Moor, but haven't arranged it yet, shouldn't be a problem though, they're used to my arriving at short notice. If you're interested PM me.
Failte.....Giok


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 19 Jan 02 - 12:39 PM

Dai

For those of us who can only pay a flying visit (why can't mothers have their birthdays when there are no Catters around?) - Can you please remind us how to locate the afore-mentioned hostelries (and where to park if sufficient parking not available at pub).

Kitty


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler on ma-in-law's 'puter
Date: 20 Jan 02 - 06:36 AM

Just checking in. Kazoo needs 10,000 mile service but I'm developing a back-up secret weapon (not a sarrusaphone). Aged P is not well at present so may need to back out at last minute. Best wishes.
RtS


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Jan 02 - 10:54 AM

Kitty, there is only one answer to your quandary, bring Mum with you. perhaps if all else fails, we could turn it into a grab-a-Granny weekend.Anyway, it would be nice to have someone my own age there.*BG*
Failte....Giok


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 20 Jan 02 - 12:06 PM

If you want to grab a grannie, I'm bringing Linda with me, but make sure she wants to be grabbed before performing the said action. I hope there will be plenty of people somewhere near our age - especially if Linda honours her promise (see thread on "Joan the leather Queen".


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: brid widder
Date: 20 Jan 02 - 12:49 PM

I became a granny just 2 weeks ago today! & I thought the Kazoo workshop was going to be the exciting bit!


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 20 Jan 02 - 12:52 PM

We can always find useful employment for grannies - especially the nice, warm child friendly variety..... the more energetic the better though!

Are there children's things/child friendly places there??

LTS


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: alanww
Date: 20 Jan 02 - 01:40 PM

I don't know what everyone is worried about. You'll say listening to bohrans and kazoos is just fine when you have heard my concertina playing .....

I've got a friend in Yellowstone, Yogi ...
Alan


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 20 Jan 02 - 04:15 PM

Vodka for the arty, gin to make you tarty, but

Lemonade was only made for drinking when your mother's at the party...


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Terry K
Date: 20 Jan 02 - 04:35 PM

At last There's a "do" only half an hour's drive from home - oh bugger, I'm off round the world next week so will miss it.

Have fun.

Cheers, Terry


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 21 Jan 02 - 05:13 AM

That's it... I've told the lads in the band.. .don't you dare book any gigs for this weekend... I'm off...

So I hope to almost certainly definately be coming up along with Fibula...

And... I have

a Kazoo

AND a bodhran

(big wicked cackling)

Plus Fibula has a kazoo too.

We're armed and dangerous - hah ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaa

Ella... aka Suze


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 21 Jan 02 - 06:54 AM

Linda is coming to get away from son, daughter, and grandchildren. Woe be to anyone who tries to "Use" her for "Child Friendly" duties. Especially if JudeL does lend her a Carriage Whip. (See "Joan the Leather Queen" thread here )


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 21 Jan 02 - 07:23 AM

On a more serious note. Will any of the pubs at Stony let us put a collection round for the Mudcat Fund ? If not could we busk (in Bletchley or Central MK). I will have a small PA + battery and inverter available. If I'm not singing I'm perfectly prepared to do the "bottling" - I once collected over £500 at a Folk-day afternoon, 20 years ago - what's that with inflation ?

Why are folkies (excepting Morris Dancers) always so adverse to raising money by the one thing that they enjoy doing ?

As I often shout when bottling - "The best things in life are free, but we're not conceited".


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 21 Jan 02 - 07:28 AM

Gareth has brought matters such as this up for discussion on the Saturday Morning.

MKC issue buskers' licenses, and take a dim view of unlicensed performances in the City centre. I've never see anybody have a problem with busking in Stony, it's a very musical place and street performers are usually to be seen. So, I'd say do it, the worst that could happen is that you'd get asked to stop.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Dead Horse
Date: 21 Jan 02 - 03:57 PM

"So, I'd say do it, the worst that could happen is that you'd get asked to stop."
THAT happens to me ALL the time, usually when I'm singing.
The wife said it once, too............... I've never been paid to actually *sing* but I can claim to have earned a few bob not to sing. I think they call it *Blood Money*, if I sang, there would be blood.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 22 Jan 02 - 05:14 AM

Well I'll have a small (30w + 30w) P.A. with at least 3 mics and D.I. with a car battery and inverter to power it. It should be more than adequate for Stony Stratford. If anyone's interested, let's try and see if we can raise some cash. Shopping centres on Saturday mornings are usually quite profitable venues. Obviously Linda and I will be willing to sing, but I also want to be able to bottle the crowd - I reckon that good bottling is at least as important as good performing on these ocasions. Any volunteers ? - see you on Friday night.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 22 Jan 02 - 05:21 AM

I think you'd be better served by doing it acoustically. You will attract less attention and are therefore less likely to end up in the cells. Also, you will piss fewer people off in the very narrow high street.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 22 Jan 02 - 08:20 AM

If I'm singing out of doors I prefer to use some PA - it's too easy to thrash your voice al fresco. Indoors it's the opposite - I don't use the sound system in many folk clubs which have one. The PA that I'm talking about is much more reinforcement than amplification. I use two Yamaha speakers smaller than most people have in their cars, and at the level I tend to use, it is almost transparent. To busk successfully you need to be heard for a reasonable radius. There's also the problem of balance, I've got plenty of vocal power but there is a limit to how far a guitar will carry and Linda's voice is not quite as powerful as mine. We used a PA at Walton FF last year (The High Street there is narrow) and had no problems with "Pissing anyone off". If people don't like the music, singing more quietly won't make any difference, it'll merely make the whole exercise a waste of time. Looking and sounding slightly more professional will at least convince the passers-by that you're not just trying to sell copies of "The Big Issue". Anyway, let's discuss it at SS - when I'be had a chance to look at the venue.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 22 Jan 02 - 08:41 AM

Dave, I don't care what you do, I'm not responsible for what you want to do and will not seek to stop you. I intend to have no involvement at all in anything other than the smooth running of the gathering.

What you choose to do with your weekend off is up to you, I'm just giving you the benefit of my knowledge of the town, its character, and the likely reaction of locals, as I live here. Suit yourself.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Julie B
Date: 22 Jan 02 - 08:43 AM

At the risk of veering 'off topic' (..and ranting!) I must admit I dislike hearing music being amplified unless it's strictly necessary. Especially in a public place where I haven't asked for it, I find it really intrusive.

I know the trend is nowadays for people to inflict their music, good or bad, on people in as wide a radius as possible (e.g. drivers driving about with car windows open, even on a freezing day, to give the whole town the benefit of the thumping bass from their sub-woofers!) but for me, one prime attraction of folk clubs is that I hear people perform without amplification. No matter how good the sound equipment, you'll always lose something on the way. I know that in large venues, you have to amplify, but (and maybe I have super-sensitive ears) I find that when music is amplified, 90 percent of the time it's way, way too loud for comfort, and I just don't want to listen, no matter how good the performer. If they can't respect my eardrums, why should I respect their music?!

Julie


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 22 Jan 02 - 08:44 AM

#now now boys, let's not get into a pissing contest please?

We could offer not to play the kazoos if someone paid us....?

LTS


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: MudGuard
Date: 22 Jan 02 - 08:45 AM

Dave, please excuse my ignorance but could you please explain the expression bottle the crowd means? I can't find it in any dictionary.

And I guess it does not mean that the crowd gets put into a bottle...

TIA, MudGuard


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 22 Jan 02 - 08:53 AM

Hi Andy, I was wondering as well, but I think he means as them for money.john


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 22 Jan 02 - 10:04 AM

"Bottling" is the term used for collecting money from a crowd. You can collect passively i.e. just have a stationary hat, guitar case etc. and when you're on you own that's usually all you can do. If there are several of you alternating "spots" or a group of morris dancers, it is more usual for an unoccupied person to carry the hat round. It can be done completely passively, but I prefer to do it in a good-natured but more aggressive manner. Many years ago at a Bracknell Folk Festival, I watched a Rapper Sword Team dancing superbly in the town centre. The person bottling was obviously anxious to get back to dancing and I had to chase after him to put my contribution in the hat. When I commented on his lack of zeal he said "Well you do better". Although I wasn't in kit, I took the hat and went round with odd quips like "Didn't they make a good job off sewing his head back after last week's accident" - I ended up with at least 4 times the money the previous bottler had taken (and a couple of pints from the dancers). Bottling can be fun - good bottler can entertain an audience as much as the performers - and is often quite instrumental in retaining the audience. An old friend of mine (who taught me a lot about the art) was once bottling for a morris day of dance in a busy High Street. He walked down the street, boarded an approaching, traffic-locked, double-decker bus and kept the passengers in stitches with his remarks. By the time he got off the bus, past the dancers, he had collected money from all the passengers, the driver, conductor, and even an inspector who happened to be on board at the time. I don't think they made him buy a ticket either !


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 22 Jan 02 - 10:18 AM

Changing the subject, Liz, Sidmouth used to have "Marine Morris" - why not have an underwater Kazzoo playing contest. If we're not having the inflatable moat after all, then it's not that far to the Grand Union Canal. I can't remember any British Waterways regulations against the idea, but all powered kazzoos must have valid Safety Certificates.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 22 Jan 02 - 11:01 AM

Is this another excuse to get everyone in wet T shirts??


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: alanww
Date: 22 Jan 02 - 11:24 AM

Well said about Bottling, Dave! It is an art - the key thing is always to be jovial and to offer as many jokes/quips as you can get away with!
(I do it for the Shakespeare Morrismen and Shakespeare Mummers and the take always goes down when I'm not there!)

Come fill up your glasses and let us be merry ...!
Alan


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 22 Jan 02 - 11:40 AM

I don't think that Linda will want to get her basque wet, even if she is wearing fishnets.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 22 Jan 02 - 11:44 AM

Linda, isztia euskera?


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: MudGuard
Date: 22 Jan 02 - 02:59 PM

Dave, thanks for the very good explanation. And as even English people (John) don't know how should I as a German have known...

Looking forward to seeing you all!

MudGuard


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 22 Jan 02 - 09:39 PM

Scanning the thread, I have managed to identify when it's happening, and some of the planned bits. But, other than the fact that the locality is Stony Stratford (andhere is a map of that), and that this is in Harlow's rather hypertrophied offspring Milton Keynes, there's not been much information about where to meet up, and indoor camping arrangements and so forth. At least I haven't been able to find it.

Some kind person spell it all out in a post, please.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 03:42 AM

York House is located on London Road, Stony Stratford. A picture is worth a thousand words, so here is a location map with York House circled.

I intend to be there from noon-ish. The building is set back from the road (parking at front), but has a large sign indicating its presence, a worthwhile innovation I feel.

Useful landmark is the Peugeot dealership next door. York House is a large (3-story) neo-graeco building.

Indoor camping will involve camping indoors. This is cleared. What did you want to know? A room has been set aside for the purpose, but apart from that you're on your own... There is adequate room for spillover people and the fastidious, so I see no problem in that regard.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 05:40 AM

It's OK Dai - McGrath gets disorientated when he has to cross over the Essex border.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 05:55 AM

I don't know if anyone else would be planning on doing what I was thinking of doing - just making a flying visit and going straight to one of the pubs for one of the sessions and not looking in at York House at all but the addresses of the pubs may be useful just in case.

Looks like matters have been settled for me anyway - brother gets married that weekend - I have to be in Tranmere...

Jon


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 05:58 AM

URL of the Stony Stratford website, http://www.stonystratford.co.uk/. All details of the establishments in use can be found therein.

As a quick reminder, Saturday will be Fox & Hounds and The Crown, and Sunday will be The Vaults which is part of the Bull Hotel.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: GUEST,McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 06:07 AM

Thanks Dai, but I'm still a bit at sea. (I get confused crossing the Herts Essex border in either direction - anywhere outside the Harlow Republic.)

Clearly York House is significant, but I'm still not clear about its role.

I mean, is it a private dwelling, a community centre, a pub where people are singing, a place where there are floors to lie on, or a meeting point where arrivals will be redirected to somewhere else?

And is there anyone who need to be informed of impending arrival? Any money to change hands? Any time before which not to arrive or after which not to arrive.

No doubt all this is in some previous post that I've been unable to find, or scattered around in a selection of posts. But I don't think I'm the only person who would appreciate a summary.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 06:15 AM

http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=42177#612945

Does this help McGrath?


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Essex Girl
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 06:23 AM

McGrath - I think the correct term (instead of "informed of") should be "warned of" or possibly "threatened with". Seriously though, aren't you taking your van - Linda and I are planning to bring our caravan. Otherwise do you need a lift from Harlow - I'll be driving M11-M25-M1 and a diversion via the Harlow roundabout isn't far out of my way (I don't know if my full Harlow visa is still valid though) - anyway mail me if you do. Dave


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 06:25 AM

Actually, it doesn't, really...

There WILL BE A CHARGE for the hire of the hall. I don't know how much it will be yet as the authorities wish to put together a special deal... I am chasing this issue as I appreciate it's of importance. Because of the size of the building and the facilities on offer, expect it to be on the order of £15 per person. This is a guess.

Indoor camping will be at york house. If you have a tent, caravan or camper you can pitch or park on the paddock to the rear of the building.

I will be there from around noon, Friday 8th Feb. This is the time I've arranged the booking from.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 06:29 AM

Woops, That last message should have been on my cookie - not the one that I'd just been setting up for Linda - still you probably got quite exited getting an offer like that.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 07:53 AM

oh my gawd... you mean I have to go so far from Wales!

ESSEX! HARLOW....

I'm getting my innoculations as I type...

:)


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 09:05 AM

McGrath you better get your bid in quick - I might have a better offer. Ella, if you fancy the odd bit of hitching allong the M4........


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 09:40 AM

Cooo I ain't doing no hitching (along the M4 that is). I might get mugged, or just passed by for hours on end...

I'm coming up in my jallopy, hopefully Fibula's coming along too. We were only discussing the other day, that neither of had and has a clue where we are going, but we are just going to follow the kazoo sounds, and listen for the tankard clanking...

:)

Hitchin me... nah never, I always remeber what me mammy says about doing that sort of thing...


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 09:53 AM

There seems to be some confusion about the location of Stony Stratford. I suggest consulting a good motoring atlas, in conjunction with the clicky links I've provided in at least a dozen places... any problems, give me a PM please...


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 10:07 AM

I think I've got it more or less clear now - there have been a lot of threads about this, and a lot of variegated posts.

It all starts Friday February 8th, and lasts till Sunday 10th. From noon York House, a former boarding school, is ours. And here is a map of where it is in the township of Stony Stratford in the Lost Kingdom of Milton Keynes.

Indoor or outdoor camping is available. About £15 per person will cover the cost. (And there are also B&B possibiities detailed somewhere in one of the threads.)

Friday pm. Meet & greet with some nosh available. Friday evening, Local folk club with Ms Bill Jones, admission £4. Or beer and frivolity in York House.

On Saturday morning, a businesslike meeting convened by Gareth for an hour or so.

Saturday lunch, at Fox & Hounds. After lunch, a trip to The Crown with for a session.

Saturday evening, impromptu ceili and jollity at York House.

Sunday lunchtime , an excursion to The Vaults for a long-standing open session. This goes on till 3pm, after which we should wind down and depart. No indoor or outdoor camping on Sunday night, so stay sober if you are driving.

I hope that's right. If I haven't someone correct any errors, omissions and misunderstandings.

Still not sure if I'll be able to make it. But it sounds pretty good.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 10:10 AM

Thank you McGrath, your collation skills are clearly second to none.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 12:09 PM

If indoor camping is going to cost £15 then we are going to have to think VERY seriously about coming. I thought a figure of £4 had been mentioned in previous threads plus money for the meal on Friday.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 03:20 PM

Hi gang!! Yes I'm afraid I'm still coming, all the way from what is at present a v. dull v. wet, and v. windy Scottish Highlands. The only change is that I've decided to caravan instead of B&B, about the same price as I'm renting a caravan, but leaves me more flexible in the matter of drinking, or getting up in the night to pee, etc. Hope there will be room for another van. BTW no reply from Brid Widder on the offer of a lift, this offer is universal. I shall be coming down the A1 for as much of the way as is practical, and then cutting across to SS. Have a fairly roomy vehicle, i.e. 4 seats + plenty space.
Save the last dance for me....Giok


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 07:45 PM

Personal attack. Message deleted.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 24 Jan 02 - 03:25 AM

There seems to be some concern here, not unreasonably, about costs. Well, we can assume that it will be in the region of £15 to camp indoors at York House; will there be any hands-in-pockets business for those of us who want simply to--how do you Americans put it?--hang out there?

Steve (I never know what's going on anyway)


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 24 Jan 02 - 03:47 AM

Steve - only if you want to drink the beer...


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 24 Jan 02 - 05:16 AM

Are you making a charge for the caravans and if so how much ? Not that it'll keep me away !!!!


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 24 Jan 02 - 05:19 AM

Yes, the charge for anyone staying anywhere within the bounds of york house will be the same, whatever it is. Also, everybody will be asked to contribute, if you're staying in a B&B less, obviously, and if you're popping in just for the day then I guess it's voluntary.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: MudGuard
Date: 24 Jan 02 - 07:11 AM

I guess the £15 for indoor camping is for the whole time, not £15 per night?


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 24 Jan 02 - 07:48 AM

yes, sorry


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 24 Jan 02 - 02:00 PM

Wot abouwt me an Bill? We'll be coming down on early Saturday morning-maybe arriving about 04.00 hrs and leaving sunday, probably before lunch.

Do we need amps for ceiliedh? Who else is in the band? Where is it going to be held? Is there a cessation of singing parties for the ceiliedh time, so folks can listen and dance if they want to?

So may questions!

Cheers

Eric


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Dead Horse
Date: 24 Jan 02 - 05:15 PM

If I promise not to sing any shanties, can I get a reduction??? And do you accept Euro's? (Aint got none, just fought I'd ask)


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 24 Jan 02 - 06:02 PM

Does the £15 include the culinery delight on Friday?


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 25 Jan 02 - 04:16 AM

Even more important - does the £15 include any BEER ?

I will have a small PA, with 3 mics/stands, but if I bring an extra mixer (8 channels) there should be plenty of room for more mics or DIs (1/4 inch jacks). I don't know how big the hall is, but probably a caller's mic is the main priority.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 25 Jan 02 - 04:51 AM

Thanks Dave, that would be helpful - as although York House has a substantial amount of PA equipment, bits of it are often out on loan.

As stated in an earlier thread, the big room is about 9m by 12m.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: MudGuard
Date: 25 Jan 02 - 03:27 PM

Interesting thought, accepting Euros! It would save me a walk to the bank to get these non-Euros usually used in Britain...

9 miles by 12 miles - a really big room... Or is Britain really starting to convert to metric?

Two weeks to go...

MudGuard


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 25 Jan 02 - 05:28 PM

The question about what is covered by our £15 still remains unanswered.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 25 Jan 02 - 06:06 PM

Mudguard, We've been converting to metric as long as I can remember. Kids are taught metric measures and have been for at least a generation. It'll take along time, after all we didn't complete our conversion to decimal currency until 1971 and that started with the issue of the florin (or 10p piece) in the early years of Queen Victoria's (Lawd bless 'er) reign.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Gareth
Date: 25 Jan 02 - 06:30 PM

Any Catter wanting a lift to Stoney S from Swansea/ Kairdif/ Brisul/ Swindon and all stations to Stoney S PM me

NB Ford Fiesta - Smoking compulsoty ! Bring yer own tapes or yer get my choice (inc Max Boyce !!!)

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 25 Jan 02 - 07:13 PM

Gareth - Thanks for the offer of a lift, but it's a hell of a long drive from Yorkshire. It might be easier for us just to go straight there!
Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 10:44 AM

I agree with Mrs Duck - you still haven't answered her question - Does the £15 include the culinery delight on Friday? - or even more important mine - Does it include any BEER ?


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 01:51 PM

Ya gets what ya pays fer


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 02:14 PM

Yes Giok but that is precisely our query - what are we paying for? I am not trying to be awkward but I don't want to find that £15 suddenly turns into a lot more and am merely trying to avoid any misunderstanding on my or anyone else's part.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 02:33 PM

I wont be able to go to this gathering because of tax reasons.Have a good time everybody.john


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 03:11 PM

My carpet turns up at the edge because or tacks reasons. However I am in favour of VAT [vodka&tonic], as long it's a big one.
The drink that is...Failte....Giok


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 03:39 PM

The Tax people are threatening to throw me in jail unless I pay them some money.Bunch of bloody vultures!


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 05:03 PM

John, you're still welcome to a lift down to SS if you want to go. After all any enemy of the tax man is a friend of mine.
"No taxation without representaion".....Giok


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 05:56 PM

Cheers Glok, but transport is not the problem, it's the time away from the shop, I earn most of my money at the weekends and I really do have pay some tax, it appears i have not paid enough, well thats what they say.I think I've paid more than enough! I will have another look at the books & see if I can make it, if not then see you all next time.cheers.john


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Gareth
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 06:27 PM

John - Not ship money they are wanting is it ? Remember Hull was for Parliament, not Crown !


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: breezy
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 06:45 PM

If your running late along the M4 M25 then up the M1 why not pop into the Silver Cup at Harpenden on Friday and give us a song ,then go on your way.
Its a residents evening and new faces would be welcome .You come in and you go on straight away then carry on your journey.The club runs from 8.30 until 11.23.
Are you singing late into the sat a.m. on friday p.m.?


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Diva
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 08:10 PM

I shall be there..trains and weather permitting Diva


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: jup
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 08:38 PM

This sounds like fun ,can I come from aussie. We need one of these here,now,or at least next week end. Let us know how the carpets come up,try useing steam cleaning.Follow with an oil burner and lavender oil!


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 27 Jan 02 - 04:11 AM

£15 covers the hire of York House and the liability insurance. The culinary delight (hehehe) on Friday, I'll sort out since this suddenly seems to have become a problem. Beer, you pays for. With money.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Jan 02 - 05:38 AM

Nobody has mentioned the raffle for a bit, I assume it's still on? I was wondering if perhaps people would prefer the proceeds of the raffle to go towards the cost of the weekend instead. Either way you've all got time to think on that idea, but whatever, can soemebody bring a book or two of raffle tickets?
Failte.....Giok


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: John Routledge
Date: 27 Jan 02 - 06:05 AM

I will bring a Jelly Belly Bean Juggler as a prize for the raffle. Every home should have one. Cheers John


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: GUEST,Mike
Date: 27 Jan 02 - 05:18 PM

Does anybody know if that a capella club is still going at the Crown in Stony?


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Dead Horse
Date: 27 Jan 02 - 05:43 PM

Giok asked: Nobody has mentioned the raffle for a bit?
Please don't mention this to the wife, if she thought I was going to get a bit, she'd want some, too.
And as for the subject of decimalisation, I have been trying for years to have the clock decimalised. Ten hours in a day, ten minutes to the hour, etc.
This would of course make the new Hour = approx two and a half old hours,
allowing for inflation, that is.
This would do away with the confusion arising when one party is using the 24hr clock, and the other A.M. & P.M.
I,m sure Mr Blair would see that we got a fair exchange rate when crossing date lines.


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 27 Jan 02 - 05:48 PM

I'm not too happy about all these taxation remarks.... I'm one of the poor sods who has to sort your bloody forms out and I can tell you that 3 out of 10 are incorrect or incomplete (usually the accountant's fault), 3 out of 10 are late and of the other 4, 1 will be under investigation and not have a file handy.

And you wouldn't credit how many tax people are folkies or bikers!!

LTS


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 27 Jan 02 - 06:00 PM

And I used to like you Liz!!:-)


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 27 Jan 02 - 09:06 PM

Now I know what you do for a living Liz I'm definetley not going! I've seen enough "tax people" just lately.I thought traffic wardens were bad, but at least they only take 20 pound at a time!
On second thoughts Liz, if I buy you a pint could you rduce my tax bill?


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Subject: RE: Stony Stratford: doom approaching
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 03:45 AM

Please continue posting in
Stony Stratford: Armageddon


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