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Bill Hill

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LEO McGUIRE'S SONG
ROAD TO THE ISLES
THE FAR NORTHLAND


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Raggytash 18 Jan 02 - 07:58 PM
53 18 Jan 02 - 08:06 PM
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Jon Freeman 18 Jan 02 - 10:13 PM
bflat 18 Jan 02 - 10:14 PM
GUEST,Boab 19 Jan 02 - 01:35 AM
Susanne (skw) 19 Jan 02 - 05:10 PM
Susanne (skw) 19 Jan 02 - 05:27 PM
Susanne (skw) 19 Jan 02 - 09:13 PM
GUEST,Boab 20 Jan 02 - 05:08 PM
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Tattie Bogle 20 Jan 02 - 06:06 PM
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GUEST,Boab 21 Jan 02 - 12:28 AM
Scabby Douglas 21 Jan 02 - 09:31 AM
GUEST,MC Fat 21 Jan 02 - 10:16 AM
GUEST,Stavanger Bill 21 Jan 02 - 10:20 AM
Tattie Bogle 18 Sep 07 - 08:20 PM
John MacKenzie 19 Sep 07 - 04:45 AM
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Subject: BILL HILL
From: Raggytash
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 07:58 PM

Many years ago I saw Bill hill perform in a club in the Orkneys. He had a wicked sense of humour and was much appreciated by all, even the English amongst us, who he took the **** out of. One of the songs he performed was something like "You're experincing the wangle O' the Isles" This, and others I would like to reaquaint myself with. Any help out there?


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Subject: RE: BILL HILL
From: 53
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 08:06 PM

we had a bill hill who played bass for us back in 1990, in s c, reckon that might be the same guy? BOB


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Subject: RE: BILL HILL
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 10:01 PM

No, BOB.....it sounds like the guy Raggytash saw was from Orkney, from what he's saying.


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Subject: RE: BILL HILL
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 10:13 PM

Guest, Its not clear to me that raggytash was saying Bill Hill was from the Orkneys but you may be right. There were a couple of posts from someone on the BBC Folk and Accoustic forum a couple of days ago from someone who lives in the Orkneys. It may be worth asking him if he has any leads in that forum.

Jon


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Subject: RE: BILL HILL
From: bflat
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 10:14 PM

More importantly, WHY DIDNT'T BILL GO OVER THE hILL?

Ellen


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Subject: RE: BILL HILL
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 19 Jan 02 - 01:35 AM

Bill Hill [at least the one I knew] was, I believe, a "Fifer". I think the song to which the first entry refers is " The Swindle o' the Isles", and was more than likely written by Ronnie Browne of the Corries.[I have a cassette with Ronnie's rendition.] Bill was a comedic performer, and was an adept at putting across material like "the Kelty Clippie", etc.. He also had some hilarious monologues, including one in which he had a long telephone harangue with Prince Charles and "Queenie", whom he was inviting to his local "gairdin pairty", and suggesting that she fetch along a "Jaur o' her hame-made jeely". I'd sure like to hear more of Bill----anyone????


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Subject: RE: BILL HILL
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 19 Jan 02 - 05:10 PM

The requested song is 'A Scottish Holiday' and indeed credited to Bill Hill. It's on 'LIve from Scotland vol 1', and if you have a little patience I'll post the words here in due course. (BTW, the four volumes of Live from Scotland' are now available as two double CDs from the Corries website, www.corries.com - sorry, I'm lazy tonight!)


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Subject: RE: BILL HILL
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 19 Jan 02 - 05:27 PM

No need for undue exertion, after all. Just click here!


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Subject: Lyr Add: A SCOTTISH HOLIDAY (from Bill Hill)
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 19 Jan 02 - 09:13 PM

Not quite true. The lyrics in the other thread are not quite what The Corries sing, so I post their version below. I have not tried to reproduce their chorus, but there are two places where I'm unsure (indicated by ?). Maybe one of our Scotcatters can help!

A SCOTTISH HOLIDAY
(Trad / Bill Hill)

So you think you're gaein' tae the north to spend a holiday
'Cause you're vaguely Scottish on your mither's side
And you've heard of ancient glories both renowned in song and story
Kilts and haggis, Andy Stewart and the Clyde
Ye go up by Crianlarich, it's the gateway to the north
And the scenery will please your eyes I'm sure
Ye take oot your picnic basket 'cause the car has blown a gasket
In the middle o' a place called Rannoch Moor

So you telephone the garage listed in the tourist guide
That was published for you by the R.A.C.
But by design, or by intention, or, they just forget to mention
That the garage closes doon for half past three
So you're towed behind this tractor tae a corrugated shed
That's surrounded by farm implements and carts
And you scratch your head and wonder why you ever bought a Honda
'Cause they'll have to send to Tokyo for the parts

So you board the train for Oban and you get the boat to Mull
Feeling like you've had a night upon the tiles
Ye pay twenty pence for coffee with a tang o' diesel oil
Your experience in the swindle o' the isles
But your pulse begins to quicken at the thought of berry-pickin'
So you take a trip to 'Gowrie for a spell
Wi' some wellies o' your mothers that she bought in Alley (?) Brothers
And a Gideon bible pinched frae yer hotel

So you're standing picking rasps being stung to death by wasps
The midges and the klegs (?) are making free
And the bairns have ate the berries and contracted dysentery
'Cause last week they sprayed the crop with DDT
So you're headin' back to Birmingham more waterlogged than tanned
But no signs of habitation can you see
When you thought you were in Berwick you were actually in Lerwick
'Cause some vandal changed the signpost in Dundee

'Gowrie - Blairgowrie, heart of the fruit-growing area in Scotland


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Subject: RE: BILL HILL
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 20 Jan 02 - 05:08 PM

Good on ye, Susanne---and sung to the melody "Road to the Isles".


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Subject: RE: BILL HILL
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 20 Jan 02 - 05:11 PM

Does anybody know what has become of Bill?


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Subject: RE: BILL HILL
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 20 Jan 02 - 06:06 PM

Still around, I believe: certainly was a year ago, when he hosted our Burns Nicht in Balerno (Edinburgh)and also seen performing at a charity concert in Edinburgh. Told me he had been out of doing regular appearances for a while and was just doing a few for enjoyment. For my money, his best song is "The Portree Kid" based on "Ghost Riders in the Sky" (also done by the Corries) words at www.albamusic.co.uk Tattie B


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Subject: RE: BILL HILL
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 20 Jan 02 - 06:29 PM

Any help with the klegs and the Alley Brothers, you two? I'm disabled here because Scottish is not my native dialect, let alone language! I could, of course, eMail Gavin Browne, son and faithful marketing manager of Ronnie, and see if he can help ...


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Subject: RE: BILL HILL
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 21 Jan 02 - 12:28 AM

Nae clue aboot "Alley". Susanne, but "klegs" are the equivalent of a monster "midgie" with a bite in proportion to its size. Unlike the ubiquitous midge, its favourite hunting weather is sunny and warm---a right bastard [ mild epithet, believe me] when you happen to be working a hayfield singin' "Bogie's Bonnie Belle" in harmony with a relaxed mood; OUCH, YA B-----D!"


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Subject: RE: BILL HILL
From: Scabby Douglas
Date: 21 Jan 02 - 09:31 AM

I believe that a "cleg" is properly known as a horsefly. It's not so much the bite as the fact that it can cause a massive infected lump (well, I say massive..- pick a coin of your choice)

Cheers

Steven


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Subject: RE: BILL HILL
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 21 Jan 02 - 10:16 AM

I did one of my first ever public performances in Dumbarton supporting Bill Hill. I can always remember cos my guitarist mate Lynsey MacArthur was quite pished and he remarked when introduced 'Bill Hill why that rhymes !!. I do recall him being rather funny though.


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Subject: RE: BILL HILL
From: GUEST,Stavanger Bill
Date: 21 Jan 02 - 10:20 AM

Susanne, I believe Alley Brothers is a reference to Allen Brothers - the name of a department store.

Cheers,

Bill.


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Subject: RE: BILL HILL
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 18 Sep 07 - 08:20 PM

And Bill is still aboot: saw him in Edinburgh jist the ither week!


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Subject: RE: BILL HILL
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 04:45 AM

You NEVER want to be bitten by a cleg, they are very nasty bites indeed, and with me anyway, they're itchy and lumpy for about 3 weeks!
EVIL SODS

Giok


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Subject: RE: BILL HILL
From: eddie1
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 12:40 PM

If you have a look at http://www.edinburghtourguide.co.uk/about.html you'll see that Bill is alive, well and working as a rather individual tour guide in Edinburgh.
I first saw Bill perform in The Waverley Bar in Edinburgh back in the early 60s - He hasn't changed any!

Eddie


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Subject: RE: BILL HILL
From: Verna
Date: 22 Sep 07 - 05:19 PM

You have a section missing from this song.

after Last week they sprayed the crops with DDT.

But by then you'r in a hurry
Tae get back to Edinburgh
Cause you want to see the castle and the tower
But then you start to worry as your stuck behined a lorry
And its only doing 20 miles and hour

So you finish up in Morningside
Booked into B&B
And the landladys just shown you to your room
We serve breakfast at 6.30 and dont make the room too dirty
Cause i've got a party coming from Dunoon

Then your heading back to Birmingham etc.

Ive been singing it for about 20 years.


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Subject: RE: Bill Hill
From: GUEST,John
Date: 12 Aug 14 - 11:16 AM

As a student in the late 70's I used to go to the "folk club" at Aberdeen uni to watch Bill Hill. He was well known by one of the guys I shared student digs with, hence I was able to hang out with him before and after performing - or maybe it was because we bought him a pint.... To correct some of the earlier statements, he came around from the Borders and had a wicked sense of humour. Much of his act was very funny parody of other material. Bill was, at one point, signed to Corries Music - a deal which, I understand, meant he could write all the music he wanted and they - the Corries - got first pick of his material, hence they performed and recorded the Portree Kid and some of his other works. They had a similar deal with other "young" writers, including one called Ian Richardson who my room-mate also knew well as they both came from Largs in Ayrshire. Ian was blessed with an amazing vocal range however he was unable to record any of his own material due to his contract - but that's another story...

Bill released a couple of albums - I managed to obtain a copy of one called Miscellaneous Dross - which was, from memory, live a recording from a gig. A lot of his humour is now a bit dated - the song above mentioned driving through Glenfarg at 15 miles an hour whereas Glenfarg is now bypassed by a motorway, and the price of his coffee would now be far inflated beyond 20 pence - but the humour of the man was the thing that made me go to see him at least 4 times in a year. He also broadcast on a "folk" programme called "Haven't heard a Horse Sing" hosted by a local broadcaster named Robbie Shepherd. Robbie still broadcasts traditional dance music every Saturday nearly 40 years later.


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