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Bad news for Kendall

DancingMom 25 Jan 02 - 10:21 PM
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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: DancingMom
Date: 25 Jan 02 - 10:21 PM

Hang in there. I had a biopsy elsewhere in the body, and surgery 1 week ago for a "precancerous" condition. It's a pain in the butt (figuratively!) but I'm thankful for early detection.I'll be thinking of you. May the blessings be. Sharon


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: kendall
Date: 25 Jan 02 - 10:24 PM

You are all wonderful, and I thank everyone of you most sincerely. No, I wont put it off. My doctor has recommended a doctor Zidell or Sidell. Who knows a great ENT in Boston? The tea tree oil, this is not an infection, it is a callous called hypokeritosis (sic) so I doubt that gargle would work. So far I have been treated for acid reflux with Prevacid, Pepsid ac and prednisone. None of them have done a damn thing. Dont worry folks, if I need you, I will call! as Jock Stewart said, "I'm a man you dont meet every day." Calling on friends for help doesn't come easy to me, but, I can do it.


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: Biskit
Date: 25 Jan 02 - 10:38 PM

Do what the good Doctor says Kendall I'm believeng that it's gonna be alright.....*translation*; I'm hoping with all my might you'll be okay, I'll keep you in my prayers. ~Biskit~


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: KT
Date: 25 Jan 02 - 10:51 PM

Hey, Kendall. You're in my prayers, too! And please do keep us posted about when you are going, so we can all send our prayers, thoughts, etc., at the same time. We're pulling for ya! KT


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: Tom French
Date: 25 Jan 02 - 11:06 PM

Hey Kendall, While you're waiting for the chords to get better, sing with your heart. It's the first source of music anyway. My prayers are with you. Hang in there.
Tom


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: Sorcha
Date: 25 Jan 02 - 11:13 PM

"keratosis" just means thickening of the tissue. There is real hope, Kendall. Believe that, my friend.Wishing you well from here. I don't know any docs in Boston, but both Brigham and Womens and Mass General are excellent hospitals.


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: Melani
Date: 25 Jan 02 - 11:15 PM

Hey, "precancerous" is better than "postcancerous." I had a "precancerous" goiter removed in 1968, and never had any further trouble. Hope yours will be the same!


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 25 Jan 02 - 11:15 PM

You sure aren't a man we meet every day - although I wouldn't mind meeting you a few more times, if it's not too much trouble. So good luck with the specialist in Boston; the right doctor can make all the difference.

In the meantime, I know that having something wrong and not knowing what it is is a rotten way to live your life, so I add my thoughts and prayers to everyone else's. Take care of yourself in whatever way you do that best.

Dan


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: Chip2447
Date: 25 Jan 02 - 11:20 PM

Kendall, Positive thoughts and healing chi for you.

Chip2447


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: DonMeixner
Date: 25 Jan 02 - 11:42 PM

Count me in your corner Kendall.

Don


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Jan 02 - 11:57 PM

Assuming that was a typo and Kendall meant hyperkeritosis, there is more information at the bootom of this page. Looks as though it is the least of the ones to get in a scare about and is definitley considered to be pre-cancerous, so that is good.

Kendall, I am visualising all of your healthy cells proliferating and if any, the dis-eased cells are disappearing, there's no room for them. I see a warm, orange glow around your thoat region, full of Light, Life, and Healing Energy.

Thank you for keeping us updated and for allowing us to be there with you.

luvyakat


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: Genie
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 12:44 AM

Kendall,
Not too much to add to what othrs have said, except to reiterate. I really appreciated your being one of the first Mudcatters to come to my aid (when I needed a song). So sorry to hear about your chords. Hope the high-tech Doc visit works, not to mention the prayers and visualizations from all of us. (Do listen to Dr. Mark, of course.)

The Melaleuca ("tee tree") oil gargle will probably help, too.

Please be back in good health, vocally and otherwise, very soon!

Genie


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: WyoWoman
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 01:19 AM

Big fat hairy bummer, Kendall. I'm pulling for you, along with all these other 'cats. It's a heckuva tug-of-war and I think the odds are on y(our) side.

ww


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: GUEST,Sandy Paton
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 02:00 AM

Whistle if you need me, old buddy. I'll come a-runnin'. I'll be watching for a PM as soon as you have definite news.

Sandy


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: Art Thieme
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 03:06 AM

Kendall----I just found this thread -------after I got your P.M. I'd no idea things had gone the way they've gone for you. But if anyone can find the humor to beat this situation, it's you. After I deal with what's going down here for us the next few weeks, I will most certainly be in touch. I will not tell you to "hang in there" like everyone tells me. I've come to hate those 3 little words.

Art


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: Banjer
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 04:23 AM

Kendall, all the best thoughts and good wishes from our house to yours. Be welll soon!


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: kendall
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 08:51 AM

Truely, I didn't know so many cared. All I've learned since the exam tells me it can probably be dealt with, and, in the right hands, there is a good chance that I'll get my voice back. Keep that positive energy coming though!


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: bigchuck
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 09:10 AM

Kendall, this is disturbing news. My best thoughts and wishes to you. I hope (and expect) this will turn out right in the end and we'll end up swapping songs and lies at Old Songs again in the near future.
Sandy


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: Murrey
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 10:43 AM

My dear friend,a few months ago I read an essay about choosing faith over fear and chose to do so in my life and well things are better every day.You have this incredible chain of prayers and good thoughts ( didn't know so many people loved such an old crank such as you did you ? ) I add my prayers and positive thoughts to all and I know you'll come through ok.AND you'd better ask for help from any and all of your friends when you need too --get it !!!

Love Marie


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: Peg
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 10:47 AM

yeah, I will echo what others are saying, the term "pre-cancerous" used in this way (why do doctors do this???) really just means abnormal cellular activity. I myself had a "precancerous" condition a few years back (a common one actually for many women) and had minor surgery and so far so good! You gotta keep monitoring it (in my case regular PAP smears which women are supposed to get anyway) but sometimes western medicine nips things in the bud...

I also had a friend with vocal nodes which can in some instances turn cancerous but the thickening does affect the singing voice. Stevie Nikcs, Patti Lupone and Madonna all had them at one point; Stevie nearly lost her voice entirely. This is more common in women than men. My best friend from high school, a talented classically-trained singer, lost her singing voice due to vocal overuse (raising two kids on her own) and underuse of her singing voice. She eventually got it back; not the same sweet purity of before but then that would have changed with age anyway...

Vocal rest (complete and utter rest) is very important to rest the cords and allow them to heal. Even whispering is harmful (sometimes more than singing). I am surprised no docs have suggested this (or have they?)

peg


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 11:19 AM

Warm and positive thoughts and wishes from Curmudgeon and me, too, Kendall. We're almost as attached to your voice as you are.

And I second Peg's comments on "pre-cancerous" -- I've experienced that myself. (And for me it's been "so far, so good" for twenty-five years.)

Definitely see the Boston experts who have experience with this sort of thing -- and who understand what it all means to a professional singer. Hope that doing whatever is necessary will eliminate the problem and leave your voice intact, even if it takes some therapy to do so.

You'll weather this storm, friend, and you've got a great support network around you.

Linn


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: gnu
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 11:39 AM

Hopefully, it's not pre-cantankerous either.

"... but sometimes western medicine nips things in the bud..." ... Peg, I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole. Spaw will be along to do that.


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: CapriUni
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 11:56 AM

Ditto everything said so far, and then some. Visualizing a rainbow of light around you -- but no ordinary rainbow. This one has its colors aranged in polka-dots, and zig-zags, and sparkles, and stripes and checks, and every garish, playful combination imaginable.

Rest your voice, but keep a belly laugh in your heart, okay?


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: Biskit
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 12:21 PM

Kendall has to get better! I mean there isn't anyone else I disagree with so consistantly.....I..er...um,....love that in a friend! ~B~


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: harpgirl
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 02:58 PM

...so sorry for your throat problems, Kendall...just read the 'cat myself. I'm visualizing the orange glow around your throat as well.

Back around the late 70's when I first met Lucinda down in Arkansas, she had had a throat operation and had been silent a whole year to heal. She healed and her voice sounds pretty good!

You're going to be okay!


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: kendall
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 03:53 PM

Peg, they did tell me not to whisper. I live alone, so, voice rest is not the problem it could be. Teaching my dog hand signals is not so easy.


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: catspaw49
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 04:01 PM

Oh well, this oughta' be good! I tell ya' what, we'll send Doug up to visit for a month or so and if you can keep quiet, we'll know that anything is possible!!!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 04:42 PM

I really hope everything turns out ok for you Kendall, you are in my thoughts.john


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: Hilary
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 06:15 PM

Fingers crossed for you Kendall,

H


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: Maryrrf
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 07:44 PM

Best wishes to you, Kendall and remember it's very important that YOU keep a positive attitude along with all the others who are pulling for you. I truly do believe in the power of positive energy!


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: Banjer
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 07:57 PM

I wonder what Paw, Cletus and the Regs are doing right now. If they are not otherwise engaged in important national security issues (heaven help us all) they may go to visit with Kendall to keep him company. What do you think 'Spaw, are they available?

Coulda sworn I heard Kendall mutter 'I hope not'!

Quiet, Kendall, the boys will handle this for you.


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: Barry Finn
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 09:32 PM

Hi Kendall, Mass Eye & Ear, I'm pretty sure that they take on throats too). It's now part on Mass General (Boston) & you may want to give them a look. I can tell you that Mass General is a place where I wouldn't think twice about putting my life in their hands, never mind my throat, oh, I already did that & look still here & happy. There's very new instrument for doing a biopsy. It's like a gun that pops & while I was waiting for the usual winch it was over. I hope all will turn out for the best. If you do end end up going to Boston for an overnight & I hope that you don't, let me know & I'll drop in & bore you to death of at least drive you into better health just to be rid of me. Really if your in the area, I'm always popping in (my second home) & you can ask anything of me (almost). It's not to far from work either. There I've already worn out my stay. Get well. Barry


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: kendall
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 09:37 PM

Thanks old Mate. When I had the cyst removed it was in and out the same day, so, I assume it will be this time too.


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: CarolC
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 10:05 PM

kendall, for the acid reflux, you might want to try using digestive enzymes with your meals. The kind with ox bile extract (I'm not kidding) is best for protiens, and a good vegetable based one would be fine for fats and pretty much everything else.

I use them and they work very well for me. I only use about a quarter of a tablet of the kind with ox bile extract at a time, though, because a little of that stuff goes a long way.


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: kendall
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 10:11 PM

And where would one get ox bile extract?


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: catspaw49
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 10:12 PM

Geez Carol....It's REAL easy to believe that a little of OX BILE would go a looonnnggg way!

Spaw (:<))


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: Banjer
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 10:20 PM

And where would one get ox bile extract?

My first guess would be from an ox....!

All seriousness aside, Kendall, you may want to go see the thread about getting rid of cat odors. If you can find someone to buy my theory about the water buffalo you may strike a bargain on the ox bile as well. That could solve someone's cat odor problem and your GI problems at the same time. Thanks not necessary, always glad to be of service...


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: CarolC
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 10:25 PM

Most health food stores have them. I use GNC's Natural Brand. The lable says Enzyme Digestant. The ingredients are...

Pancreatin
alpha-Amylase
Betaine Hydrochloride
Pepsin
Papain
Ox Bile Extract 8:1

I only use this one when I've eaten protein. For everything else, I use one that is entirely vegetable based. Dried papaya can work well too. These are both available at most health food stores.


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: kendall
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 10:38 PM

I'm into health food stores, so I'll check it out. Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: Uncle Jaque
Date: 26 Jan 02 - 11:00 PM

It is truly amazing how many folk from all over the World with such a diversity of philosophy, Faith, and perspective can unite in their affection for an irascable ol' Yankee coot... and how I'm blessed to be counted among that number.

In concert with the previously expressed sentiments, be assured of the prayers of another Yankee; not only for healing of the "works", but for wholeness of Soul and spirit as well.

May you experience a supernatural infusion of Light which sets your Soul to singing with renewed power and Joy; the "pipes" can't help but follow!

Peace and Wholeness to ye, captain!


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 27 Jan 02 - 01:02 AM

Kendall--

Best wishes. The classic Boston hospital joke: Someone asks what is the best hospital in the East? The answer is Massachusetts General. And what is the finest hospital in the West? The Brigham.

(Folks may need to consult a map of Boston to understand the relative positions of these institutions, but the geography is accurate.)

May your return to health (and restoration of your peace of mind) be swift and complete.

--Charlie


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Jan 02 - 01:02 AM

Kendall!

Two things-- acid reflux-- if it's at night while asleep, please PM me for some information.

Prayers-- mine of course-- and do you also want this circulated to the prayer chain, and if so is it HYPERkeratosis as Sorcha (I think) spotted?

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: GUEST,Fortunato
Date: 27 Jan 02 - 07:12 AM

Kendall, Susette and I have been madly rehearsing and parenting and stuff and I didn't know you were having some difficulty. I'm sorry to hear it and I hasten to add my good wishes to those above. If we are alike in this: my singing is a defining portion of my identity, like my guitar playing, then it must be wholly frightening and disorienting to feel threatened with it's loss. I add my chi to all those above: be well.

Chance


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: JohnB
Date: 27 Jan 02 - 08:04 AM

What can I say that everone else hasn't already said. Only a lot of pretty crude words, so I will just say them now to myself. JohnB


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: kendall
Date: 27 Jan 02 - 09:05 AM

I appreciate every one of you folks, and, from what I have learned in the last couple of days, I'm not so much worried about the condition as the skill of the surgeon who will do the operation. I'd also like to know what caused it so I can prevent it in the future. I have a speech pathologist lined up, maybe I'm doing something harmful that can be corrected.


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: Midchuck
Date: 27 Jan 02 - 10:40 AM

Kendall, Friday night we were given a copy of an amateur videotape of our set at this last Old Songs open mike. Since you went on right after us, your set was on it, too (albeit with a little background noise from the rain which was just then getting properly started).

You can't be through singing, because I'm certain that you have a great many songs I still have to steal from you, that I haven't even heard yet.

Therefore: I wish for the best possible outcome from the procedures you're going to have, not because I'm a nice person, but for purely selfish reasons. Which makes my wishes that much more likely to be totally sincere. For what that's worth.

Peter.


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: GUEST,Nurse Betty
Date: 27 Jan 02 - 10:48 AM

I'd also like to know what caused it so I can prevent it in the future.

Are you a smoker or ex-smoker? Tobacco smoke is the most prevalent cause of throat/vocal cord cancers.


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: CapriUni
Date: 27 Jan 02 - 02:11 PM

From nurse Betty:

"Are you a smoker or ex-smoker? Tobacco smoke is the most prevalent cause of throat/vocal cord cancers."

Until he has the biopsy, of course, he isn't even sure it is cancer. As I understand it, all we know for sure is that it is a thickening of the vocal folds...


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: Alice
Date: 27 Jan 02 - 03:05 PM

Kendall, I'm very sorry to hear about your condition. I wish you the best in getting care, your recovery, and rehab in using your voice again. There is some info at the two sites I linked to in previous voice threads, Center for Voice Disorders, Wake Forest University
and University of Pittsburgh Voice Center

Here's to a speedy recovery,

Alice


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Subject: RE: Bad news for Kendall
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 27 Jan 02 - 03:12 PM

Best Wishes, Kendall


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