Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: GUEST,Purple And Orange Date: 11 Feb 02 - 06:22 AM It's over ... I've shoved up a finale ... Thanks to all who helped me out on this one! Who knows where our fevered imaginations will take us next? Or when?
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Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: Ella who is Sooze Date: 11 Feb 02 - 04:57 AM Ok, I also enjoyed participating laterly to the last half of the thread, made me laugh, and was good fun. Laughed at all the excellent parodies that came from it all. Sorry, guilty as charged, I can't deny it. But it was a helluva giggle joining in Ella |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: Fibula Mattock Date: 11 Feb 02 - 04:35 AM Spaw, yer a sweetheart - the Campsite at Drumcree thread has been one of the nicest to both read and contribute to. Fair play to the guys that began it and kept it growing (I didn't join in anonymously 'til towards the end of the first one). Maybe we can get a Norn Iron gathering going and invite Eamon Holmes to open it. Anyone know if you can get cross-community comedy grants? |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: Brendy Date: 11 Feb 02 - 12:42 AM I've had 'In The Town Of Ballybay' involuntarily running around in my head for the past number of days (probably a Tommy Makem thing!)...so... Well.... And with me ring a ding a dong, Forgive me.. it's late, but I couldn't resist a brainstorm!! B. |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: Brendy Date: 11 Feb 02 - 12:05 AM Hello wee darlin! Sorry I missed all of this, and seeing some of the references, I knew that at least a few of the Lurgan 'brigade' were in on it. The intimacy of knowledge with which the 'Drumcree' threads were written, could not be learned, and the non native posters could be spotted a mile away. I Read the 'Made it to Belfast' thread, and the parodying of all the 32 counties in song would be a great move altogether, and I'll figure out some sort of contribution. Difficult counties, though, could well include, Longford, Westmeath, and Carlow. Of the Ulster ones, one could find Cavan and Monaghan particularly interesting places to pour the creative salivical juices over. I'll get back to you on this.... Apart from that, everything's fine; hope you and yours are all well, and congratulations again to everyone who made a Drumcree thread a pleasure to open. B. |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: alison Date: 10 Feb 02 - 11:07 PM hello stranger Nice to see you back Brendy... I was just thinking a few days ago I hadn't seen you in ages... and how much you'd have enjoyed those threads.... now check out this one and see what songs you can come up with finally made it to Belfast slainte alison |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: GUEST,Brendy Date: 10 Feb 02 - 10:49 PM Just read all of it. Killicomaine; Buckie; The Ashburn on a Sunday night. And apparently I play The Kesh in Eminor - it's all fairly close to home. But I'll tell you this: I would much prefer to see an 'ecumenical' Megasession at Drumcree than the current cacophony that generally eminates from those parts. B. |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: ard mhacha Date: 10 Feb 02 - 03:33 PM God save us, the oul masked Tenor never died. Well i`m afraid he is about to meet his end on future postings to the Mudcat. The man himself, MAX, de Boss, has decreed that GUESTS have had their fling and brilliant THREADS like the Drumcree Oscar winner will be no more. If McGrath would enlighten me as to how I can get in touch with his Stratford friends, who are organising to send donations, I will contribute. But what a pity to eliminate such Threads as Drumcree, more power to your elbow GUEST and stay with us, its a good Site the Mudcat, but, people like you tend to blow away a lot of the Cobwebs. Ard Mhacha. |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: GUEST,cute hoors anonymous Date: 10 Feb 02 - 03:31 PM I've been thrown out of much better places than this one. And I'll be proud to say I was put outta Mudcat on me arse by the management. GuerrillaGael |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: GUEST,one of "them" Date: 10 Feb 02 - 03:06 PM There's some as knows who kicked this thing aff and there's some as'd like to know ... But there were all sorts chippin' in ... However... I'm the man that kicked it off and got a kick out of watchin' it kick off in all directions. Glad people enjoyed it! Let it rest now and something else might crop up in future or might not. And 'spaw ... cheers, mate. You know talent when you see it! ... The Masked Man Of Drumcree |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: Hrothgar Date: 09 Feb 02 - 05:08 AM I laughed till the tears ran down my leg. It was just a shame that so much of it wasn't in English. |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: catspaw49 Date: 09 Feb 02 - 02:12 AM Yeah I know Den but that damn line was stuck in my mind!!! I couldn't help but feel like some dumbass who is so overcome that he doesn't know what to say because any words are so lame.....So he just goes around patting everyone on the back with some canned line of approval. So for y'all the image was piss poor I know, but for me it was about accurate.......I just feel like an idiot trying to come up with something suitable to say. Anyway......whatever words and images of heartiest approval you may wish to use, just pretend I'm saying them.!! Spaw |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: Den Date: 09 Feb 02 - 12:56 AM Right people its time to come clean...who were yez and spaw yer a good guy an all that but maybe your choice of Mr. Grace was...I suppose probably not right...context wise...were so far removed from the Grace Bros, PBS view of anything outside your borders that well...you gotta come over and see for yourself. Let us know when you're coming and I'm sure there are many people here who will welcome you into their homes with a heart and a hand. Mine included, and I mean that. The curtain falls (and I know I'm setting myself up for a severe sleggin') on the Drumcree threads but I think it would be nice to know who participated. I think I know who some of you are. |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: catspaw49 Date: 08 Feb 02 - 11:21 PM I think now that this is wrapping up a bit, I'll make a comment. BRILLIANT WORK!!!Shortly after these miraculous threads started, I began reading.....at first with some trepidation because I've seen some efforts go so far awry in the past, but this never did. To quote young Mr. Grace, "You've all done very well." I have laughed harder at some of this than I have in ages and some of it frankly and sadly went over my American head. But even in that came learning.......And I have made no comment when these were running because the one thing I have learned over the years is never to interupt real genius at work! You have all topped the absolute best that Mudcat has ever seen and when Seamus says it should be a radio play, he's right....it should, but I feel blessed to a part of a community that has members capable of producing such great work. Many Thanks. And to my Secret Santa partner, Fibula Mattock, who played such a role in this work, I will run a copy of this and fold it into that wonderful book which you presented me for Christmas. One day someone else will find it and wonder what it's all about, but I think I'll add one word to the outside of the copy ..... Understanding Peace to you all. Spaw |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: Coyote Breath Date: 08 Feb 02 - 10:45 PM Now hold on, jist a minit, who the sam hall is Slainte Alison. Is this a Papist Plot? |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: alison Date: 08 Feb 02 - 05:02 PM in yer dreams den....lol.... not 'til you give up claiming that your local chippy did the best pastie suppers!! slainte alison |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: harpgirl Date: 08 Feb 02 - 11:37 AM ...geez Mickey, when have you actually stopped talking when you say "this is my last post on the subject"??? Never that I can recall!!!! LOL hg |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: GUEST,Den at work Date: 08 Feb 02 - 09:43 AM Tell the truth Mick it was my stirring speach way hand on heart that turnt yer head round not that friggin' Alison and Seamus bloody Kennedy. And A'll tell ye what A'll fight the man that says it isn't so so A will...well A reckon A could take Alison anyway, good luck. |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: GUEST,anawr guest Date: 08 Feb 02 - 09:28 AM (ominous tone)...that'll follow Jeri, that'll follow.... |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: Jeri Date: 08 Feb 02 - 09:22 AM One thing I find remarkable about those threads and this is there are plenty of opportunities to get off on some sort of angry rant. It hasn't happened. I suspect the perpetrators are having too much fun to get offended by anything. Now, if we could just sic the lot of yez on the next serious but stupid flame thread... Mind you, it's a good thing they're discussing depercussionisation and not dediddlyization... |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: GUEST,The Shan Van Vocht Date: 08 Feb 02 - 08:57 AM As me oul mate once said, "Arra come in out of the rain, Barney McShane". G'luck t'you now! Up the republic!
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Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: Big Mick Date: 08 Feb 02 - 08:43 AM Boy!!.............Ever had one of those threads where you jumped in with the best of intentions, didn't quite do your homework well enough, and ended up down the feckin pisshole without a rope to crawl out with?? As the comedian said "I feel like the world is full of tuxedos and I am a pair of brown shoes". Primarily because of people like The Fair One and Seamus, I went back and reread the whole of the threads. What happened was I read the first post, and it obviously wasn't my cuppa. Alison sent me a link to the Portadown News and I laughed like hell. My world being what it is, I haven't had time to do much more than jump in here and there, and I saw references to "taigs" and such and just decided that I didn't belong in this one as I find the term offensive. I made an incorrect assumption. I though about posting, but thought it better to just not go into things that I didn't care for, as I have counseled others to do so many times. Fast forward to seeing a post from someone who called him/herself "Real Mudcatter". I read it, make some incorrect assumptions about the thread, and post. The intent of the post was to say that whether or not you agree with the positions, stay out of it. Go on to another. I now realize that I made that in a way that had an unintentioned tone to it. It is so difficult to transmit context here. I apologize for the tone of it to folks that live there. And as I said I have now reread the whole thing, find it very funny in the main, there are still things in it that I don't care for, but I understand the stir. And SVV, could you give this poor lad a bit of notice before you post one like that. I pissed meself right here in the office............LOL. Poke accepted, sackcloth and ashes worn, now fuck off, the lot of you...............LOL. Mick |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: GUEST,The Shan Van Vocht Date: 08 Feb 02 - 04:02 AM Mick, a stór, Isn't is a holy terror the way thon 'uns is roun'in' on you! Jaysus ... if I could but only houl' you to me and give you succour and solace durin' this time of trial and tribulation when the enemy's at the door, spittin' calumny and vituperation. I don't think that Drumcree thread is anything to do with Protestants. If you ask me it's down to the priests! Oh it min's me of the way the same b'ys trated our poor uncrowned King and all cos he had a bit of red hot blood in him! You try tellin' me that Brian Boru didn't have lead in his pencil and didn't like to play away from home the odd time! And did the oul' beardie Druids give him stick for it! Did they buggery! A laurel wreath is what they gave him (and made a few excuses for him, no doubt, while he was flailin' away with his quare bit!). So mavourneen ... stand firm (oooh, matron!) in the face of it. These b'ys will be off this oul' jotter before you can say tiocfaidh ar la. Love and peace ... SVV |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 08 Feb 02 - 03:17 AM Mick, I'm with Alison and the others.It is one of the funniest bits of writing I have ever had the good fortune of reading. I wish to God it were a radio show or a CD, I'd buy copies for all my Norn Iron pals here in the U.S. who (like me) can laugh at themselves and the situation at home. The perpetrators of this bit of brilliance really know their music and the musicians, and it shows. I was laughing like I haven't done since reading Puckoon. From a Falls Road Taig. Seamus |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: alison Date: 07 Feb 02 - 06:10 PM I admit to being a few of the characters too, (and I was always me.....lol) as Den, Ard & Fib have pointed out.... often our way to cope with the things that were part and parcel of our everyday lives was to use humour..... now I know that humour doesn't always carry well.... and I know that some of the derogatory terms we us to refer to each other can be offensive to some..... but its how we got through now back to the "sleggin'".... *grin* slainte alison |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: GUEST Date: 07 Feb 02 - 12:52 PM Big Mick, regarding that invitation and welcome, are you a Taig or a Prod. Ard Mhacha. |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: Wolfgang Date: 07 Feb 02 - 12:51 PM And then, get real, the Real Mudcatter is not real though (s)he may be a real Mudcatter. Read those posts again and then say: it's part of the game. Wolfgang |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: Jon Freeman Date: 07 Feb 02 - 12:48 PM Interesting the different reactions its got. I don't claim to understand all of it but, to me, it has been by far the funniest thread I have ever read on Mudcat - brilliant stuff! Jon |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: Wolfgang Date: 07 Feb 02 - 12:00 PM I had not much time the last week to read many threads but I never forgot to open the Drumcree threads. It was not just the song parodies I laughed about but also the tiny details (depercussionalisation of Ireland, Continuity Mudcat, Apron's mason, no fence no Alliance,...). When Blair, Flanagan or whoever are 'cited' the tone of the announcement is true to the person 'cited' as far as I can tell. And in top of all that, the threads were never far from the music I love. Whoever write(s) all that often brilliant nonsense is not a dissenting loyalist making fun of Irish musicians. They know what they write about too close for that. It is an inside job very well done. I love it. Wolfgang |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: GUEST,Christy Moore Date: 07 Feb 02 - 10:07 AM Ah now, Micheál ... Win' yer neck in! Sure aren't I only singin' you a wee song in the oul' Drumcree thread at the minute! |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: Fibula Mattock Date: 07 Feb 02 - 10:02 AM I'm guilty too, Den. It's been a lot of fun, and I haven't laughed so much in ages either. You're right about it being mostly Northeners writing in it, I reckon. It's such a great example of Northern Ireland humour and in-jokes. But I think Real Mudcatter is taking the piss alright. |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: ard mhacha Date: 07 Feb 02 - 10:02 AM God blessis Mick dont take this stuff serious. I live in the area, and I find this Drumcree thread hilarious. So if your ever over here we will welcome you and don`t mind the wee bit of slaggin`, all of Ireland thrives on it. Slan Ard Mhacha. |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: GUEST,Den at work Date: 07 Feb 02 - 09:58 AM Let me just say that I admit to playing many of the characters being parodied in these threads. Its been a great laugh and I think there is some wonderful stuff there. For those of you who have taken exception, take a day off you're taking life way too seriously. I suspect that most of the contributors to the threads are people who either lived for a long time in Northern Ireland or currently live there. I also suspect that those who have taken exception have'nt or don't. I grew up there I lived through the worst of the troubles, in the markets area of Belfast. I've stood by more graves than is probably healthy for a person. When times were rough it was humour that got us through. Real Mudcatter put your big brush away your painting us all from the same pot and your assuming way too much. If you don't get the humour that doesn't mean that it isn't funny. Bottom line I think we're allowed to laugh at ourselves we've come through a whole lot and maybe there are happier days ahead for us. Den |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: Big Mick Date: 07 Feb 02 - 09:51 AM Well, D.M.E.L., should you ever meet me in person and call me a plastic to my face, then we shall see who can hack it at the sharp end. But in the meantime, if you could but read with comprehension, you would see that I am defending your right to humor as you see it, not dictating it. I look forward to meeting you sometime. No more posts from me on this one. Mick |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: Big Mick Date: 07 Feb 02 - 09:46 AM I am not detracting. And I do recognize some of the handiwork of some folks that share my sensibilities. And when I read through some of it, I must admit to laughing like hell. But a great deal of it offends me, hence no need for me to be in it. Back to the occasional lurk on this one for me. Mick |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: GUEST,Drumcree MegaSession Enterprises Limited Date: 07 Feb 02 - 09:43 AM Watch out, b'ys ... the plastics over the water are tryin' to dictate our sense of humour now, as well ... and lettin' on - with all this "our" business - that they're somehow people to be listened to. Well, éist le mí, a chara ... if you 'hink you cud hack it at the sharp-end, 'mon over! Brush Shiels is demanding his own personal roadie ... Have you got a big, hairy arse-crack, and an inability to count above 2? Then you'll maybe fit the bill! |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: GUEST,Imaginary Mudcatter Date: 07 Feb 02 - 09:37 AM You only THINK you've read this post! However ... I intend to say that the Drumcree thread is probably the funniest thing to have happened on the Mudact since some time last week. But then - oh no! - my sense of humour's been hijacked so I'll side with the detractors instead. Pity ... |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: GUEST,Mother Ma(drum)cree Date: 07 Feb 02 - 09:30 AM Micheál mór What's up, a chara? D'you REALLY think that the Drumcree thread is the work of the daymon prods? REALLY? Y'obviously haven't read much of it's all I can say! Oíche mhaith, a mhic!
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Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: Big Mick Date: 07 Feb 02 - 09:23 AM I am posting this because of the tone of the "Real Mudcatter" post. I had mentioned to Alison that I found much of this thread objectionable and hence I was following my own advice given to others who didn't like the Republican oriented threads, which is simply stay out of threads that one doesn't like. But because of that post above, I feel the need to say publicly that I didn't post it, even though I share most of that posters feelings. I don't know why you would post anon, Real Mudcatter. One should never be afraid to take a stand and be known for doing it. BUT, Real Mudcatter, I think you were in error for posting for one simple reason. This isn't a discussion thread. If it were a thread discussing the events at Drumcree, or the problems in the north of Ireland, then I would probably join the fray and have a rousing discussion. But this is a thread where folks of various persuasion have chosen to parody and satirize various other folks. You and I, and others I am sure find it distasteful. Just as some of these folks find some of our views objectionable. Given that the armament here is words and you feel a need to engage, why not write a parody or satirical lyric taking another view. I gave serious consideration to posting Micca's "The Stash My Father Scored". This one ain't ours, bro. Give the same courtesy that you expect when we are discussing rebel songs, or our positions on the troubles, etc. Mick |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: GUEST,Robert Burns Date: 07 Feb 02 - 08:48 AM "Ah Sam, Ah Sam thy'll get thy fairin' Came oot yer tent for some tatties an' herrin'" Tae the "authors" Campsite at Drumcree - ma congratulations - Guid radio show!! you bet - an whit aboot bringin' oot a CD. |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: GUEST,Derryadd Dan Date: 07 Feb 02 - 08:31 AM Hi what the hells up with these people, trying to make a laughing stock of me. I have strove long and hard for the cause on thon bliddy hill in Drumcree, nivver mind about it costing me a fortune in underwear, and forebye, losing one of my Kidneys for our wee country. When all them bliddy fenians take a powder and piss aff [I can supply plenty of the latter] and lave me and the rest of the Brethern to open the road, then we`ll have pace. Derryadd Sam. |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: GUEST,anawr guest Date: 07 Feb 02 - 08:16 AM From what I gawr, there are several people contributin' to this thread. I have a fairly good guess of who's chippin' in, and I think it's good-natured (in the Norn Iron sense) "slegging" and nat intended to be vitriolic. Surely it isn't supposed to be a parody of "all parties in the north" - it's just rippin' the piss out of anyone and everyone. It's a kick up the hole for everyone who gets their knickers in a twist, but most of all it's done as a laugh. |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: GUEST Date: 07 Feb 02 - 07:59 AM Funny as I think the threads are, I suffer no delusions as to the "balance" of the parody as to the Troubles. I do find this to be a hilarious parody of the Irish and Irish republicans by someone who claims to be a unionist. Just because a few of the more notorious loyalist characters (Paisley, Sammy Wilson, et al) are included for color and contrast, doesn't make it balanced. Anyone who believes this is a parody of all parties in the north is mistaken. But that said, I really don't want to diminish the work someone put into it, because it is a very good parody. Now if they could parody the British in general, and British folkies in particular half as well, I'd be a true admirer. As it is, I got a good laugh. |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: GUEST,Real Mudcatter Date: 07 Feb 02 - 06:57 AM Come on, now, Micca! The threads are a travesty. What relation do they bear to Child, to Captain O'Neill, to Lomax and Lomax, to Bunting, to Breathnach, to Sharp? To those proud stalwarts of the folk movement who gave their lives for the music they loved to collect and perform? The "satirists" in the Drumcree threads wouldn't know a hop jig from a five-hand reel or a strathspey from a schottische. For this reason you are wrong to condone their scurrilous behaviour. I feel as if my temple has been ransacked by the barbarian hordes. May God have pity on us all! |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: GUEST,micca at work Date: 07 Feb 02 - 06:41 AM If Real Mucdcatter is sincere, then he/she has missed the whole satirical bent of these most gloriously classic threads, I think they expose wonderfully the whole question of the stances of the various partys in NI . and give a refreshingly Satirical view of the various extremist views, These have been the most consistently funny ( to the pointof incontinence) threads in the Mudcat, right up there with the Reg Boys et al of Spaw and that is praise indeed. I too read the first few posts and thought , Uh Oh!! Flame war,(and I avoid threads that are sectarian anyway) then the tone of the first brilliant satirical song sank in, and then alison, suggested I come back and read on asit was geetting very funny, So Thank you Ali, and thanks to the wonderfully creative folks that have made these threads such a Joy.. thank you!! thank You, Yez are the Boillix!! |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: GUEST,Real Mudcatter Date: 07 Feb 02 - 06:18 AM Speaking as a real mudcatter and one of the "long-term" members of this community, I would like to take issue with those who seek to lavish praise on these threads. I would have written in under my own name, but having seen the sarcastic treatment doled out to poor Joe Offer yesterday I choose to remain anonymous for reasons which should be obvious. These threads contain "humour" which is low, vicious, nasty, spiteful, slanderous, libellous, un-Godly, vacuous, cheap and crude. There is a thread of violence and unpleasantness which permeates the threads which causes me to back off in horror. The language used in some of the posts is foul and, quite frankly, unneccessary. If this is what passes for "humour" in Northern Ireland, then it's little wonder that this part of the "little bit of heaven fallen from the sky" is so benighted. No doubt I'll come in for criticism for having taken this stand, but unless we in the silent majority speak out, then the Mudcat will go the way of every other 21st Century institution! |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 06 Feb 02 - 04:15 PM Look yez, enoughs enough! My ten minute run through the forum now takes me over an hour. Some of us have work to do, so we do. Keith. |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: GUEST Date: 06 Feb 02 - 07:39 AM This dumb American isn't completely aware of all the references in those threads, but found them hilarious anyway. It's a tribute to genius when humor can transcend cultural boundaries and ignorance to touch a universal funnybone. Hats off to the contributors. |
Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: GUEST,Yet anawr guest Date: 06 Feb 02 - 06:28 AM See what I mean. I didn't hear one person snatter out at that one!
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Subject: RE: Thanks Anon Guest in Drumcree Threads! From: GUEST,anawr guest Date: 06 Feb 02 - 05:47 AM Aye yer ballix! Away an' shite!! |
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