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Origin: Ballad of Seth Davy / Whiskey on a Sunday

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WHISKEY ON A SUNDAY or COME DAY, GO DAY


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Subject: RE: Origin: Ballad of Seth Davy / Whiskey on a Sunday
From: Noreen
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 06:44 PM

Snuffy, the place came first-

see this page: LIVERPOOL'S GHOST STREETS: BEVINGTON BUSH:

In the middle of the 18th century, however, the fields around here were gold and green. Bevington Bush was a hamlet hunkered within a thickly wooded hill. The 'bush', was a patch of elevated land on which a profitable crop of corn grew. In 'A History of Corn Milling' ...Bevington Bush is listed as having four windmills in 1768. ... The tower of the most northerly mill was demolished in the 1960s....

Two centuries ago Bevington Bush was a pastoral idyll. City merchants used to enjoy nothing better, on a Sunday afternoon, than to stroll from the industry of town to the open fields of Bevington Bush ? the first village on the road to Preston.
They chose their route well. For Bevington Bush was home to a popular inn, perfectly placed for that reviving Sunday afternoon session.....

In his book Liverpool: Our City ? Our Heritage, (pub: Bluecoat Press) historian Freddie O'Connor reveals that "?In 1760, half a mile from St Patrick's Cross (in what's now Great Crosshall Street) along Bevington Bush Road was an inn called simply The Bush, which became a favourite haunt for folk to travel out into the country, to the Bevy Inn, as it became fondly known."

And before you say anything ? no, that's not why we say we're going for a bevvy. Obviously. Although 'The Bevvy' does get a mention in another book: Recollections of Old Liverpool (pub: Echo Press, Middlesex), "The sailors were very fond of going to the Bevington Bush Inn, or The Bevvy, with their sweethearts, and many a boisterous scene have I witnessed there. The view was really beautiful from the gardens?. Along the Scotland Road were cornfields, meadows and gardens?"
The gardens didn't last long. With the opening of Scotland Road the ancient hamlet of Bevington Bush soon became surrounded by our ever-growing city. But the inn remained ? even adding its own brewery, Hallsal Seager and Co, in 1834.


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Subject: RE: Origin: Ballad of Seth Davy / Whiskey on a Sunday
From: Noreen
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 07:11 PM

LIVERPOOL GREAT ? Seth Davy


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Subject: RE: Origin: Ballad of Seth Davy / Whiskey on a Sunday
From: Snuffy
Date: 17 Apr 13 - 03:20 AM

Apparently Dan Lowry (of Whip Jamboree fame) was also associated with Bevington Bush. According to the newspaper report shown here Liverpool Mercury, January 16th 1864
In the neighbourhood of Vauxhall Rd and Scotland Rd, and the immediate streets less damage was sustained. A house in Marlborough St, Scotland Rd, had the windows shattered. At the music hall "Dan Lowry's Music Saloon" Bevington Bush, a large plate glass window was broken, several of the pieces scattered on the pavement beneath.


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Subject: RE: Origin: Ballad of Seth Davy / Whiskey on a Sunday
From: Noreen
Date: 17 Apr 13 - 05:53 PM

Thanks Snuffy- that's fascinating, as is the rest of that site!


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Subject: RE: Origin: Ballad of Seth Davy / Whiskey on a Sunday
From: GUEST,94Mikej
Date: 21 Jun 13 - 10:00 AM

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0oNFnmvZcsI/TlvEX_PB7nI/AAAAAAAAADo/SlDtOmxKH48/s1600/Seth%2BDavy.jpg

Pic of Seth Davy at Bevington Bush, Liverpool (from a lantern slide, circa 1900)


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Subject: RE: Origin: Ballad of Seth Davy / Whiskey on a Sunday
From: breezy
Date: 21 Jun 13 - 04:04 PM

I heard that the date in the song 1905 was not the year of Seth's death but was used because it rhymes.

I thought it was 1903 but I dont really know, but it was not 1905

B****y Nickemall Iris sh   !! ;-]

Saw Jackie and Bridie perform this at the Troubadour mid 60s got their vynil too

Spinners popularised this song so give em some credit otherwise Rolf 'Tie me Kanga down ' would never have sung it .

When i visited Blackpool in 1990 a busker in the market worked such dolls with his feet


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Subject: RE: Origin: Ballad of Seth Davy / Whiskey on a Sunday
From: Noreen
Date: 21 Jun 13 - 06:46 PM

breezy, what is the relevance of your offensive comment about the Irish? Would you rather Irish people didn't sing this song for some reason?

There is a major connection between Ireland and Liverpool for obvious reasons, so it would be very strange if each didn't sing the other's songs.


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Subject: RE: Origin: Ballad of Seth Davy / Whiskey on a Sunday
From: GUEST,Mick
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 11:00 AM

Any additional info please on Glyn Hughes himself?


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Subject: RE: Origin: Ballad of Seth Davy / Whiskey on a Sunday
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 12:13 PM

Mick, there isn't much but see these other two threads
 Lyr Req: Whiskey on a Sunday
thread.cfm?threadid=91115#2421484 
&
Who is/was Glyn Hughes
thread.cfm?threadid=33415#2608823 

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'glyn hughes' in the "Lyrics & Knowledge Search" box up in the top right corner will get you loads of hits but those seem to be the main threads mentioning him


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Subject: RE: Origin: Ballad of Seth Davy / Whiskey on a Sunday
From: GUEST,bradfordian
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 12:33 PM

Seth Davy Picture --Click


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Subject: RE: Origin: Ballad of Seth Davy / Whiskey on a Sunday
From: GUEST,Sol
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 12:36 PM

Here's Seth Davy in action.
Seth Davy

As far as I know Glyn Hughes was a Liverpool journalist.
FWIW, Scotty Road = Scotland Road (where Cilla Black came from).


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Subject: RE: Origin: Ballad of Seth Davy / Whiskey on a Sunday
From: GUEST,Sol
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 12:40 PM

Guest "bradfordian" beat me to it, with a better link as well.


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Subject: RE: Origin: Ballad of Seth Davy / Whiskey on a Sunday
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 12:44 PM

From: GUEST,bradfordian - PM
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 12:33 PM

Seth Davy Picture --Click


Thanks Ian,
And just to add some confirmation, in the background of the picture, clearly shown (with name sign) the Bevington House Hotel


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Subject: RE: Origin: Ballad of Seth Davy / Whiskey on a Sunday
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 03:16 PM

I recall singing Seth Davy" at Cyril Tawney's Plymouth club in 1967, and being surprised that nobody knew the song.


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Subject: RE: Origin: Ballad of Seth Davy / Whiskey on a Sunday
From: Brakn
Date: 09 Sep 17 - 05:20 AM

Looked in the 1901/1891 census for Liverpool for any Seth Davey/Davys, for any Seths and for any Davy/Daveys. Didn't find anything. Perhaps that was not his name.


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Subject: RE: Origin: Ballad of Seth Davy / Whiskey on a Sunday
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 09 Sep 17 - 08:01 AM

looking through all three threads the versions seem to be contributor's recollections. Is there a version which is authenticated as Glyn Hughes' original song.


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Subject: RE: Origin: Ballad of Seth Davy / Whiskey on a Sunday
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Sep 17 - 08:05 AM

Many Thanks to Freddy Headey. The trail
goes cold; it's known that he existed but
seems to have left no trail other than the
fine song. Another thread implied that his
Glyn Hughes name was a pseudonym. People are
also confusing the issue with talk of another
Glyn Hughes who was a Yorkshire Author & Poet
but he had a much longer innings. Tantalising
mystery to me that someone with all that talent
passed away at such a young age. Anyone got any
further clues about Glyn Hughes?


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Subject: RE: Origin: Ballad of Seth Davy / Whiskey on a Sunday
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 09 Sep 17 - 08:07 AM

Brakn, possibly it is a reflection of the reliability of census data collection at that time.


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Subject: RE: Origin: Ballad of Seth Davy / Whiskey on a Sunday
From: Brakn
Date: 09 Sep 17 - 08:25 AM

You're probably right.


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Subject: RE: Origin: Ballad of Seth Davy / Whiskey on a Sunday
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Sep 17 - 08:11 AM

From Stan Kelly via Liverpool Writers;
none of the links seem to work. Has says,
"Glyn Hughes wrote Seth Davey. I was dere
at de time, like. He died very young".???


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Subject: RE: Origin: Ballad of Seth Davy / Whiskey on a Sunday
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 10 Sep 17 - 08:28 PM

Just wondered which spirit he was drinking? (Whiskey: Irish or American, or Whisky: Scotch!?)


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Subject: RE: Origin: Ballad of Seth Davy / Whiskey on a Sunday
From: GUEST,Dottyliz
Date: 24 Oct 17 - 11:46 AM

Have just read the history of Seth Davy. As a family in Liverpool my cousin Albert Kennedy sang this song and we all joined in.    I have a Dancing Dinah, still in its original box, slightly battered.   The box says The Rage of 1934, the year I was born !
She and I perform every New Year and our friends love it !


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