BS: western flicks

Subject: western flicks
From: GUEST,van lingle
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 06:32 PM

i'm going through a period of inactivity due to a shoulder injury (no guitarizing) and am watching many videos. i love classic (shane, high noon etc.) and even more recent (silverado, unforgiven...) westerns and wonder if i've missed any great or good ones.any suggestions? i've tried the archives and couldn't pull up any relevant threads. thanks, vl.

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Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: Midchuck
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 07:00 PM

My all-time personal favorite in that genre is probably "The Outlaw, Josey Wales." Clint Eastwood starred and directed, I think...

Peter.

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 07:05 PM

Paint Your Wagon; The Unsinkable MOlly Brown; Going South; Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid come to mind, as well as all of Clint Eastwood's spaghetti westerns.

Take care with your shoulder.

kat

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: Justa Picker
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 07:08 PM

I found "The Quick and The Dead", amusing and escapist. (Gene Hackman and Russell Crowe - when he was nobody, and Sharon Stone.)

The early Clint "dusters" (as I call them) were good. Agree about Josey Wales, and also Unforgiven. "The Magnicient Seven" is a must as well.

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: DougR
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 07:15 PM

The John Ford films: "Red River," "The Searchers," "Ft. Apache," "She Wore A Yellow Ribbon," "Rio Grande," "Rio Bravo," "Ride the High Country" (Randolph Scott and Joel McCray), "Winchester 73," "Stage Coach," are a few I can recommend.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: Cappuccino
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 07:18 PM

English TV often shows old 50s westerns in the early afternoons on weekdays, and as I work from home, I often have them on. The only thing I like better than a good western... is a bad western. I love the 1940s-50s bright Technicolor, and I like my heroes in clean duds while the baddies are dirty and unshaven, and there's always an unrealistically pretty girl with an hourglass figure in some remote shack somewhere... could watch them all day!

- ian B

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: GUEST,colwyn dane
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 07:39 PM

In addition to those mentioned above.
Some very good b+w jobs:
'The Plainsman' - Gary Cooper
'My Darling Clementine' - Henry Fonda
'They Died With Their Boots On' - Errol Flynn
'Red River' - John Wayne
'Santa Fe Trail' - Errol Flynn
'The Gunfighter' - Gregory Peck

And some colourful ones:
'Drums Along The Mohawk' - Henry Fonda
'Northwest Passage' - Spencer Tracy
'Jesse James' - Tyrone Powell(1938)

Have a laugh with:
Laurel & Hardy 'Way Out West'
'Blazing Saddles'

Good viewing to you.
CD.

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: GUEST,colwyn dane
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 07:42 PM

Spot my mistake and send the answer on the back of a 50 dollar bill to yours truly.

CD.

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: GUEST,BigDaddy
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 07:49 PM

"One-Eyed Jacks" with Marlon Brando and "The Long Riders" with sets of brothers (Carradines, Keach-s, etc.). Peckinpah's "The Wild Bunch," and "Pat Garrett And Billy The Kid." And definitely "Lonely Are The Brave," starring Kirk Douglas in a film based upon a novel by Edward Abbey.

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: GUEST,vl
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 07:50 PM

colwyn, wasn't it john wayne and not fonda in drums along the mohawk. u.s. currency only please *g*. great suggestions all. please don't stop.vl

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: GUEST,vl
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 07:54 PM

tyrone powell(-er)?

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 07:59 PM

No wonder I'm such a waste.........I've seen all of these I think.........completely pathetic.

Magnificent Seven
How the West Was Won

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: DonMeixner
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 08:04 PM

Will Penny is an overlooked gem, The Sacketts is very good as is the other Quick and the Dead. Any Sam Elliot or Ben Johnson western is worth the time.

Don

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: Clifton53
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 08:13 PM

Doug R. mentioned 'Rio Bravo', one of my favorites with a nice musical interlude with Ricky Nelson and Dean Martin harmonizing on " My Rifle,Pony and Me",,then going into " Get Along Home Cindy Cindy" with Walter Brennan joining in on the chorus. Makes me smile every time I see it.

Also, not a straight cowboy picture, but 'Northwest Passage' with Spencer Tracy and Brennan, and Robert Young is very good.

Clifton

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: Clifton53
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 08:14 PM

Doug R. mentioned 'Rio Bravo', one of my favorites with a nice musical interlude with Ricky Nelson and Dean Martin harmonizing on " My Rifle,Pony and Me",,then going into " Get Along Home Cindy Cindy" with Walter Brennan joining in on the chorus. Makes me smile every time I see it.

Also, not a straight cowboy picture, but 'Northwest Passage' with Spencer Tracy and Brennan, and Robert Young is very good.

Clifton

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 08:36 PM

The years when I was living in New York City and had a hankerin' to see the sky, I used to go down to those seedy theaters in Time Square every time Big Country was on. Will Penny is another favorite, already mentioned. I watched Stage Coach the other night with John Wayne in his first "major" movie role (although he shared equal time with four or five other actors and actresses. Iinda nice to see him before he started mailing in his appearnces. One no one had mentioned, I think, is the Ox Bow Incident... very disturbing. I also watched the Gunfighter with Gregory Peck recently, and that's fine, too.
Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: DougR
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 09:27 PM

Yes, Jerry, your suggestions are excellent. The Big Country is one of my favorites, and I love the musical score to it. You are right about The Ox Bow Incident. That was really considered a very daring movie when it was released in the 1940's. Clifton, Rio Bravo is one of my favorites too and I thought Walter Brennen was great in it. The Wild Bunch was a very good movie too, I thought. I also liked John Wayne's last movie, "The Shootist," based on a novel by Glendon Swarthout. Musn't forget Monte Walsh either.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: Dave Swan
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 09:34 PM

My Name is Nobody

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: Midchuck
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 09:38 PM

Of course, if you watch "Blazing Saddles," you can never again watch any western and take it completely seriously...

Peter.

P. S. "The Long Riders" is worth watching for the music alone. The action and the acting are bonuses.

P.

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: DonMeixner
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 10:11 PM

Swano,

Sure it isn't "Trinity"?

Don

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: Peg
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 10:18 PM

One of my favorite westerns is a very recent one: Unforgiven with Clint Eastwood and Gene Hackman. It won a lot of awards and deserved every one. This film takes a lot of the old standard images and plot twists of the classic western and flips them on their heads! A great story, great shooting, very entertaining.

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: Justa Picker
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 10:24 PM

My favourite line in that movie Peg, after the kid has the shakes from shooting the guy in the outhouse...to Clint.."guess he had it coming"..and Clint's reply "Kid, we've all got it coming."

Loved it!

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: Dave Swan
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 10:26 PM

Don,

The Trinity films were made with Terence Hill & his buddy Bud Spencer. Both those names are pseudonyms, as Bud & Terence are both Italian.

My Name is Nobody features Terence Hill & Henry Fonda.

ES

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: DonMeixner
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 10:34 PM

Dave,

I know that. Jeepers boy I was pickin on ya. The silver conchos on the saddle bags with the dynamite is a scene that I recall very vividly. Also the barroom "drink a shot and shoot the glass" scene was most fun.

Ever see The Massacre at Marble City? After the wagon train massacre the Italian movie staple of a lone trumpet and an electric guitar play a duet of The Party's Over.

I laughed my self nuts with that one.

Going to bed now--------yawn------- I is beat.

Don

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: Mickey191
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 10:42 PM

Each & everyone is a winner. May I add John Ford's The Searchers and Missouri Breaks with Jack Nicholson. Get Well. Slainte

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Feb 02 - 12:58 AM

"Duel In The Sun" (Gregory Peck) and "Tom Horn" (Steve McQueen). Also, for more modern , "revisionist" westerns: "When Legends Die," "J. W. Coop," "Junior Bonner"." Also recent film now on video called, "All The Pretty Horses." And "The Hi-Lo Country." And "Last Of The Dogmen."

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Feb 02 - 06:49 AM

Two Mules For Sister Sarah (Clint Eastwood) is a good un

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: Clifton53
Date: 10 Feb 02 - 07:12 AM

'Fort Apache', with Henry Fonda and John Wayne, and Victor McGlaglen(sp?), where Fonda plays the new straight-laced Commander and Duke is the sargeant/indian expert, contains a great line, something like,

Fonda: "I saw some Apaches on my way here, didn't look like much to me."

Wayne: " Well if you saw them sir,they weren't Apache"

Clifton

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: Hrothgar
Date: 10 Feb 02 - 07:46 AM

Onya, Midchuck! Why did it take so long for someone to mention "Blazing Saddles?"

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: Cappuccino
Date: 10 Feb 02 - 08:30 AM

They must have had a whole Hollywood-full of actors who seemed to do nothing but westerns - I always loved seeing Slim Pickins or Walter Brennan in a cast!

- Ian B

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 10 Feb 02 - 08:44 AM

What about Valley of the Gwangi? My favorite dinosaur western with special effects by Ray Harryhausen. What could possibly top cowboys roping and tieing a Terranosaurus Rex?
Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: GUEST,colwyn dane
Date: 10 Feb 02 - 09:56 AM

Yup you got it van - Power it should be.

The Anthony Mann/Jimmy Stewart works:
'Winchester 73'
'Bend of the River'
'The Naked Spur'
'The Far Country'
'The Man From Laramie'
Arthur Kennedy in a couple of 'em as a 'greyish' rather than 'blackish' villan.
Dan Duryea as a sneering/whining heavy - great stuff.


'Dodge City' with Errol Flynn contains perhaps the greatest saloon punch-up in the movies.
Guinn Williams: "That's one fight you Yanks didn't win"

CD.

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: Les B
Date: 10 Feb 02 - 02:39 PM

And for a hint of weirdness - "Missouri Breaks" and "The Ballad of Little Jo"

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: katlaughing
Date: 10 Feb 02 - 06:42 PM

Also, the Virginian.

What were the two recenet ones with Billy Crystal and Jack Palance? Oh yeah, City Slickers. loved those!

We learned a lot of songs from How the West Was Won, I think it was (got spurs on my boots and I don't give a hoot 'cause I got me a pretty woman's glove...)

Fort Apache - the Bronx was excellent, though not a western:-)

Paint Your Wagon...er, did I already say that, sorry...

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: RangerSteve
Date: 10 Feb 02 - 06:56 PM

The Shootist - JW's last movie, and maybe his best. And Cat Ballou (sp?) - maybe the funniest western, and a great performance by Lee Marvin. Which reminds me - The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance - also with Lee Marvin, James Stewart, John Wayne, and everyone else who was ever in a John Ford western. And not really a western, but North to Alaska - Wayne, again.

Any western with Wallace Beery, although I've never seen any on video.

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: kendall
Date: 10 Feb 02 - 07:54 PM

Lonesome Dove. Head and shoulders above all except High Noon.

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: DougR
Date: 10 Feb 02 - 08:00 PM

I think Lonesome Dove was the best TV mini- series ever made. I never could understand why Gus had to die though. He was the glue that held that story together, I thought.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: katlaughing
Date: 10 Feb 02 - 08:01 PM

Legends of the Fall; the Grey Fox was it, with Richard Farnsworth?

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: Mickey191
Date: 10 Feb 02 - 08:25 PM

HELP. Can't remember the name. Michael Cimino movie which was murdered by the critics and died at the B.O. About the westward migration, and narrated by the hero's teenage sister.Beautifully photographed. I loved it. I'm sure Christopher Walken was in it. Anybody??

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: kendall
Date: 10 Feb 02 - 08:29 PM

Mickey, was that The Far Country?

Doug, the story was based on a true incident, that's why Gus bought the farm. You've heard Utah Phillips' GOODNITE LOVING/TRAIL? Supposedly, one of them died and the other dragged him many miles to bury him where he wanted to rest.

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: rube1
Date: 10 Feb 02 - 08:41 PM

Heaven's Gate -Cimino's epic

Run of the Arrow -young Rod Steiger on foot Bandolero- grizzled Jimmy Stewart-great jew's harp theme Valdez is Coming- Burt Lancaster in Elmore Leonard story Once Upon a Time in the West-Sergio Leone epic The Romance of Rosy Ridge-early MacKinlay Kantor story My Little Chickadee-Mae West and WC Fields

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: Mickey191
Date: 10 Feb 02 - 08:54 PM

Thanks Kendall, But I think it is Heaven's Gate.Good Job Rube1. Romance of Rosey Ridge, was, I think Janet Leigh's first picture. My husband saw that on the ship going to Japan as part of occupation forces. He said every soldier fell in love with Janet and her more then ample bosom! Slainte.

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 12:22 AM

Little Big Man (Dustin Hoffman)

From Noon Til Three,a totally different kind of film for Charles Bronson. He starred with his wife (whose name escapes me at the moment).

McLintock, Big Jake, Sons of Katie Elder, True Grit (moreJohn Wayne)

Maverick, both the TV series with James Garner and the "new" movie with Mel Gibson/James Garner

The Villain, THE absolutely funniest Western ever made (including Blazing Saddles), with Kirk Douglas playing The Coyote and Arnold Swartznegger as Handsome Stranger (named after his father) (a/k/a The Roadrunner...)! Oh yeah, and Ann Margaret as Simply Charming (because that's what her daddy said when her mom told him she was pregnant).

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: DonMeixner
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 12:54 AM

Is it possible that no one has yet mentioned "Shane"? That film never gets stale or old.

Don

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: DougR
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 01:24 AM

Yeah, I think Shane was mentioned in the first post, Don. Interesting, Kendall, I didn't know that LD was based on a true story. DougR

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: DonMeixner
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 07:51 AM

Yup. It was. But its so good it deserves to be mentioned twice.

Now how about "Hondo"? Great movie made from Louis LaMours first novel.

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 08:15 AM

I may have missed it, but there is also "Once Upon a Time in the West" the spaghetti western with Henry Fonda as a blue-eyed bad-ass.....makes the whole thing worthwhile.

There was another Alan Ladd one called "The Big Land" I think....pretty fair classic Hollywood western.

And I don't think we've mentioned another humorous classic, "The Cheyenne Social Club"......Jimmy Stewart and Henry Fonda, two old friends on screen and off........helluva' good movie!

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: Clifton53
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 05:11 PM

Someone mentioned " My Darlin' Clementine" above, the only movie I've seen in which Walter Brennan plays a bad-ass, Ike Clanton, at one point, slapping his son to the ground and saying, " when you pull a gun kill a man". Bad Walter!!

Clifton

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: kendall
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 05:27 PM

Little Big Man yes! All I remember about Hondo was Marion Morrison saying "Never apologize; it's a sign of weakness." Mega asshole.

Subject: RE: BS: western flicks
From: Wesley S
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 05:39 PM

Another vote for Little Big Man { soundtrack of delta blues by John Hammond }.

An interesting western of sorts was "Quigley Down Under". Tom Selleck plays a sharpshooter hired to come to Australia. When he finds out the job is shooting aborigines he turns on his boss. There are some horrible scenes of the aborigines being driven off cliffs. Some good 12 string guitar in the soundtrack also.

"Welcome to Hard Times" is good but of course the book by E L Doctrow is better.

And perhaps I missed it but did anyone mention "Gunfight at OK Corral" yet? Now that's almost the perfect western.

The book that SHOULD have been turned into a movie but wasn't was " The Cowboy and the Cossak" by Clair Huffaker. Texas cowboys driving cattle across Siberia. Based on a true story. Has anyone else read that?