Bron-Y-Aur

Subject: Bron-Y-Aur
From: GUEST,colin
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 07:03 PM

Does anyone know how Bron-Y-Aur should be pronounced. I believe its welsh meaning golden breast or something. Cheers colin

Subject: RE: Bron-Y-Aur
From: GUEST,Kate
Date: 09 Feb 02 - 07:27 PM

Bron y Aur, well depending what the context is, Bron means breast or breast of a hill, so its either Golden Breast or Golden Hilltop. Bron is pronouced as bron as in bronze Y is uh Aur is the hardest, Eye-Er Welsh is phoneticso if you pick up something a simple as a Welsh Teatowel with the alphabet then remembering that its abc not ABC then its quite easy to pickup. ATB

Subject: RE: Bron-Y-Aur
From: sian, west wales
Date: 10 Feb 02 - 08:48 AM

It isn't quite correct. It should be, Bron Yr Aur, or better yet, Bron Aur. Bron Aur would be Golden Breast or Golden Hill; Bron Yr Aur would be Breast/Hill of *the* Gold. Kate's spot-on with the pronunciation. What's the context?

sian

Subject: RE: Bron-Y-Aur
From: GUEST,Muskrat
Date: 10 Feb 02 - 05:32 PM

It's the cottage in Wales where Led Zeppelin wrote material including "Bron Y Aur Stomp," which Mudcatters will immediately recognize as a pun on the Piltdown Men's 1960 rock instrumental "Brontosaurus Stomp."

At least that's the context I recognize. Any others?

Subject: RE: Bron-Y-Aur
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 10 Feb 02 - 10:29 PM

The belief that Welsh is phonetic has got to be an illusion. How can a language with words like "gwyrthiau'th" and "gwiw" and "nghynteddoedd" be phonetic? (Not that I don't love these words.)

Welsh and Irish have so many silent letters, they must think that paper grows on trees.

Subject: RE: Bron-Y-Aur
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 03:39 AM

Welsh has no silent letters at all. It has compound letters which are represented by double characters. These have their own position in the Welsh alphabet, which goes thus:

A B C Ch D Dd E F Ff G Ng H I (J) L Ll M N O P Ph R Rh S T Th U W Y

These compound letters exist becasue of a campaign in the 19th century to standardise Welsh spelling using only the Roman alphabet. The characters used for the compounds before then were - er - different :-)

Subject: RE: Bron-Y-Aur
From: sian, west wales
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 05:25 AM

What Dai said. Particularly "gwyrthiau'th" and "gwiw" in which every single letter or dipthong is pronounced. Not like Irish.

Sian