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Mis-spelling in Thread Titles

Murray MacLeod 11 Feb 02 - 10:27 AM
Joe Offer 11 Feb 02 - 01:15 PM
SharonA 11 Feb 02 - 01:42 PM
kendall 11 Feb 02 - 01:55 PM
Gareth 11 Feb 02 - 01:59 PM
Joe Offer 11 Feb 02 - 02:00 PM
Bill D 11 Feb 02 - 02:57 PM
SharonA 11 Feb 02 - 03:19 PM
Mary in Kentucky 11 Feb 02 - 04:17 PM
George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca 11 Feb 02 - 04:24 PM
Mary in Kentucky 11 Feb 02 - 04:39 PM
SharonA 11 Feb 02 - 04:41 PM
GUEST,misophist 11 Feb 02 - 05:11 PM
Murray MacLeod 11 Feb 02 - 05:14 PM
Dicho (Frank Staplin) 11 Feb 02 - 05:32 PM
Kenny B (inactive) 11 Feb 02 - 05:36 PM
Steve in Idaho 11 Feb 02 - 05:53 PM
Murray MacLeod 11 Feb 02 - 06:04 PM
DonMeixner 11 Feb 02 - 08:06 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 11 Feb 02 - 08:10 PM
artbrooks 11 Feb 02 - 08:31 PM
wysiwyg 11 Feb 02 - 09:53 PM
Murray MacLeod 12 Feb 02 - 01:07 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 12 Feb 02 - 01:35 AM
kendall 12 Feb 02 - 09:51 AM
M.Ted 12 Feb 02 - 02:39 PM
SharonA 12 Feb 02 - 03:00 PM
Kenny B (inactive) 12 Feb 02 - 03:15 PM
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Subject: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 10:27 AM

I no longer get as pissed off by mis-spellings as I used to, I just accept the fact that some people are oblivious to mis-spellings in the same way that some people are tone-deaf. And I also accept that such minor dyslexia is no adverse reflection on anybody's intelligence. I also realize that typos can slip through no matter how carefully one proof-reads.

However, I do have an issue with mis-spellings in thread titles. In the current crop of threads, there are several with mis-spellings in the title, and my point is that if anybody does a Filter search on a topic which is mis-spelled in the title, the filter is not going to pick it up.

As far as the current crop of threads is concerned, while realizing that nobody is likely to search for threads using "flatulent", "sorry", or "sponsor" as search criteria, it is quite possible that somebody might search for "fingerpicking", or "lyrics".

So my suggestion is, could the Joe-clones please take it upon themselves, quietly and without comment, to correct mis-spellings in thread titles?

Murray


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 01:15 PM

Well, Murray, I do correct spelling in thread titles when I see mistakes - but only in threads that I consider to be of some lasting value. I noticed your thread was right next to a flame thread with the word "sponser" in the title - I decided I'd prefer to leave that misspelling alone. Same with threads with titles like "desparately seeking lyrics," when the lyrics they seek are easily found in our database.

Generally, JoeClones are not allowed to edit thread titles. Max and Jeff do tech stuff, so I usually do the spelling corrections. If you see a thread title that should be changed, send me a personal message.

Thanks, Murray.

-Joe Offer-

Come to think of it, is anyone here sure how to spell "misspelling"?


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: SharonA
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 01:42 PM

A related comment: When people start threads with clever titles, such as the recent thread about contact pick-ups entitled "BS: Let's keep some contact w/music please!", it attracts attention to the thread but does not help anyone doing a Forum Search trying to find information on the subject (in the example I've cited, the absence of the word "pickup" or "pick-up" is crucial – I doubt that anyone searching the Forum for info about pickups would use the word "contact" instead of "pickup").

Unfortunately, there are some titles (such as my example) that are too long to allow Max or Jeff to add a word to indicate the topic discussed. I wish people would be mindful of this but, when they're not, is it (or should it be) Mudcat policy to change the thread title to facilitate Searches?

Sharon


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: kendall
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 01:55 PM

Seems to me, if you can afford a computer, you can afford a dictionary.


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: Gareth
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 01:59 PM

As Churchill said, "We are a common people, seperated by a common language"

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 02:00 PM

Hi, Sharon - Yeah, there have been a number of threads like that, with clever-but-misleading titles. I do try to ensure that threads with misleading titles don't get lost. There was no "BS" in the thread title you refer to. I would have deleted the "BS" designation if it had been there. Quite some time ago, I added that particular thread to the index on the Instruments PermaThread. If you see similar threads, the best thing to do is add them to the appropriate PermaThread. For that matter, we'd like to index ALL instrument-related threads in that PermaThread - so it's great if you can suggest other threads that should be listed.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 02:57 PM

it is interesting that now, one of the best 'dictionaries' available IS the internet/WWW itself.

If you are nowhere near a dictionary, or have no spell checker available, you can simply try 2 or 3 versions of a word in Google, AltaVista or AllTheWeb, and look at the # of hits for each ... 99.999% of the time, the biggest # will be the prefered (perferred? preffered?.*grin*) spelling..(yes, I know..UK vs. US spelling,,but that can be adjusted...the UK uses whichever version has the most letters...)

for those who will USE it, there is a free spell checker for PCs at this site YOUR choice of several dictionaries.


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: SharonA
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 03:19 PM

Joe Offer: Okay, thanks for the tip about PermaThreads. You're right, of course, about the lack of "BS:" in the title of the thread I used as an example; what happened was that I did a Forum Search to verify the name of the thread (so I wouldn't get it wrong), then skimmed over the Search Results, saw the Search prefix "RE:" without reading it carefully and assumed that it said "BS:"! Ah, well, you know what they say about assuming. *sheepish G* Sorry!

Sharon


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 04:17 PM

I just looked up misspelling here. That's funny, because I was just wondering that myself, and it seems that when I've already started typing in the text box here, I hate to go to another page on the net. I sometimes put this message on my clipboard, but then I make a mistake like I did in the Salley Gardens link yesterday and paste a page with a picture of my kitchen windowsill instead of a link to a song!

I never needed the word no-one til I started posting here. Is there such a word? I just use nobody.

Bill, the problem with searching the Internet for spellings is that other people misspell the same word! I found several sites with caddillac and Heriott!

Didn't someone here come up with a word for those seconds after hitting the submit button when we read a typo in our post, but can't stop it from flying into cyberspace?


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 04:24 PM

Mary. That's because it isn't one word. "No one" is two words. Not concatenated, or any other way of combining. Nobody is a perfectly fine word in itself, but has a slightly different meaning than "no body".


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 04:39 PM

So if I want to say, "No one here ever asks for my opinion." Is that the same as saying, "Nobody here.."?

I like the sound of no one better than nobody.


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: SharonA
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 04:41 PM

George Seto: Thanks for adding "concatenated" (linked together) to my vocabulary!


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: GUEST,misophist
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 05:11 PM

Spell Checkers have ruined us all. Re concatenated; if you go back to the Latin, it means CHAINED together.


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 05:14 PM

IMHO, "misspelling" and "misspelt" have a horribly crammed look to them, due to the two adjacent "s".s. Mis-spelling has a much more satisfactory look.

Sometimes one's ear for euphony has to take precedence over what Merriam-Webster has to say ...

Murray


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 05:32 PM

Joe, if you follow the OED, it's mis-spell. If you follow Webster's Collegiate, it's misspell, as Mary posted. The same is true for most of these words. I am old-fashioned enough that I use the hyphen if I think that there might be confusion.
"I am appalled" (to use the standard letters-to-the-editor phrase) at the mis-spellings of common words. Spelling of words such as separate is drilled into grade-school pupils, so I would suspect some of the contributors have never had schooling.
Spell-checkers are anathema to me. I do some technical writing, and I also post dialect spiritual and work songs; I like to keep some of this in Word so that I have a hard copy for use in bed, bathroom or on the fly. The spell-checker puts ridiculous marks all over the copy on my screen; a nuisance but no help. Long ago, I tried adding common scientific terms to the computer dictionary cum spell-checker, but soon gave up- there are too many. I use the old newspaper proof-reading technique and find it both faster and simpler.
I bought Webster's Collegiate with the disc, and installed it on my computer. I have found that I can use the book faster, so I keep it leaning against my monitor.
Mary, there is a simple, four-letter word (five-letter if you are Irish) beginning with "s" for your problem. I use it frequently.


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 05:36 PM

To detect euphony, would it be correct to say that one would require a euphonium, if so I have an old brass one I am prepared to lend out for such occasions. If I dig it out from the shed is there any suitable music in the DT (must be written in the treble clef) ;.)
Sorry Murray your last post appealed to my basser instincts, and I am now going to play a Tuba Smarties by Herbie Flowers. ;>)
I really post some utter nonsense at times


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 05:53 PM

And there are a few of us that just don't take the time to look them up. I am a horrible speller. As a Marriage and Family therapist you would think I could spell marriage - but I get it wrong as often as not. I'm used to having a spell checker in my PC and without one here, on site (not a complaint) I just blip on past it.

Why would someone be upset over someone else's inability to spell? I certainly understand the context Murray and the rationale for it. I just don't understand someone getting angry over something so trivial. There are larger things in the world to concern myself with.

But I will work on making sure any title I do is correct. *G* Thanks for the bump

Steve


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 06:04 PM

Kenny, I could (easily) be wrong, but my hunch is that music for the euphonium is written at the very least in the tenor clef, and more probably in the bass clef. Happy tootling ...

I agree with Steve, I don't get angry at mis-spellings any more, unless the offence is committed by one of my offspring (off-spring?) in which case I go berserk ....

Murray


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: DonMeixner
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 08:06 PM

I can spell just fine, my computer leaves out letters.

Don


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 08:10 PM

Murray-How did I know this thread was started by you? :-)


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: artbrooks
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 08:31 PM

Mi spelin isnt to badd, but i just cannt figger out or remembr "it's" and "its".


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Feb 02 - 09:53 PM

Let's move on from spelling to euphemisms. Hardi has taken to calling certain funerals "The Obsequies." This is IMO a stepo up. He usually just calls them "Plantings."

~S~


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 12 Feb 02 - 01:07 AM

John, you are starting to develop Mudcat telepathy.

Pretty soon you will be able to identify threads started by Little Hawk, Rick Fielding, 53, Clinton Hammond, Amos and even Spaw, before you even open them.

I can also identify unerringly any John from Hull threads ....

Murray


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 12 Feb 02 - 01:35 AM

LOL Murray!


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: kendall
Date: 12 Feb 02 - 09:51 AM

The problem I have with misspelled words is, I am so literal, it is hard for me to read and understand what is being posted. I'm unable to get through the fun stuff that Spaw posts for Cletus, for instance. We have a universally accepted way of writing, and, if you do it wrong, you might as well be posting in another language.


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: M.Ted
Date: 12 Feb 02 - 02:39 PM

Are you telling us that Hardi is obsequious, Susan? Kenny would probably tell us that that is a euphonym for saying "You Phony!"


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: SharonA
Date: 12 Feb 02 - 03:00 PM

kendall: And here I thought Cletus was speaking another language! *G* (Rube-onics, perhaps?)


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Subject: RE: Mis-spelling in Thread Titles
From: Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 12 Feb 02 - 03:15 PM

A Euphonium is a mellow instument with a smiling wistful tone, totally in keeping with this thread.
As a point of info for anyone like myself steeped in the depths of trivia but not all of it adhesive, brass band music for the euphonium is written in the treble clef and for military band and orchestral music in the bass clef. You never know, that could answer the final question in 'Who Wants to Be a Millionaire'
Oh well back to sleep ;>)TTFN


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