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Subject: Gloaming? From: rea Date: 24 Feb 02 - 10:17 PM Erm.... what is the gloaming, anyway? -rea |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: catspaw49 Date: 24 Feb 02 - 10:18 PM A nice place to go roaming. Sorry...Had to be said. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: ddw Date: 24 Feb 02 - 10:19 PM gloaming is twilight david |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: Sorcha Date: 24 Feb 02 - 10:50 PM Twilight, yes, but twilight could be either morning or evening. Gloaming is usually evening dusk, just before sundown. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: khandu Date: 24 Feb 02 - 10:52 PM Correct, Sorcha! You win the cigar! khandu |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: GUEST,Boab Date: 24 Feb 02 - 10:53 PM Sorcha---you pernickity so-an'-so===== :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: masato sakurai Date: 24 Feb 02 - 10:55 PM For dictionary definition and citations, CLICK HERE. For the song "In the Gloaming", CLICK HERE (on Levy). ~Masato |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: rea Date: 24 Feb 02 - 11:13 PM wow. y'all move fast. *grin* thanks!!! *BigGrin* rea |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: Murray MacLeod Date: 25 Feb 02 - 02:07 AM Masato, I doubt that one person in a million would relate to that song when they think of the word "gloaming". What they want to hear is the song by the legendary Sir Harry Lauder "Roaming in the Gloaming" Murray |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: Hrothgar Date: 25 Feb 02 - 02:48 AM Gloaming was a pvery good racehorse going around in Australia in the 1920s. Won 19 races straight, and only unplaced once in 50-odd starts - and all this against some pretty fast horses. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: masato sakurai Date: 25 Feb 02 - 03:16 AM Murray, I learned that song when I studied English at school many years ago; it was in an English songbook published in Japan. I thought every native speaker knew the word. ~Masato |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: Ringer Date: 25 Feb 02 - 06:18 AM At the Tuesday evening sessions at the Welcome Inn, Rusholme, Manchester, in the early 70s, the song In the Gloaming of Wyoming was popular, mainly because of its very singable chorus. Never heard it anywhere else. (Pom, pom, pom) In the Gloaming of Wyoming But then, The Laughing Policeman was also popular there then. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: Zipster Date: 25 Feb 02 - 06:55 AM Interested to see that gloaming means dusk. I had always thought it was the red light that is peculiar to Scotland and I imagine other places of similar latitude, that comes between daylight and what I would call dusk (which is darker) This in memory at least takes place in spring, and the light doesn't so much diminish as change colour, making thing glow, which I had assumed was the source of the term. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: Murray MacLeod Date: 25 Feb 02 - 08:21 AM Masato, as you can see, such is not the case. And if I may say so, your command of English as evidenced by your posts here is far superior to that of some native speakers. Actually, I had always assumed you were a native English speaker. Murray |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: masato sakurai Date: 25 Feb 02 - 08:42 AM Thanks, Murray. I'm not a good speaker of English, though. I've found Harry Macdonough & Haydn Quartet's recording (RA/MP3) of "In the Gloaming" (1904) HERE. ~Masato
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: Mary in Kentucky Date: 25 Feb 02 - 09:39 AM I guess I'm "one in a million"!!!!!! I immediately thought of the song Masato linked to. I knew the song before Glen Close sang it in a made-for-TV movie a couple of years agos (directed by Christopher Reeve).
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: Mad4Mud Date: 25 Feb 02 - 11:12 AM |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: Mad4Mud Date: 25 Feb 02 - 11:18 AM Ooops! Hate that when it happens! Sorry Murray, I'm with Mary and Masato on this one. No doubt it's one of those cutural things. ;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: GUEST,Martin Ryan Date: 25 Feb 02 - 11:46 AM This thread reminds me of an incident this thime last year. I was finishing an illustrated talk on Iriss SOng to a group of assorted European students (French, German, Belgian, mainly) I knew their English was generally very good but had provided them with reprints of the words of most of the songs I was using/singing. So I said: "Well - did you understand everything?". "Please", said one student "there is one word I don't understand. I ts in a few of the songs. What does "Alas" mean!". Sort of put the Irish song psyche into persective! Regards |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 25 Feb 02 - 01:22 PM Murry McLeod said: Masato, I doubt that one person in a million would relate to that song when they think of the word "gloaming". I immediately thought of the song Masato referred to, and only thought of the Harry Lauder song when you brought it up. But then my wife says I'm one in a million, so that figures, I guess. Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: Mary in Kentucky Date: 25 Feb 02 - 01:30 PM hmmmmmf! I've been fishing for a compliment on that one but to no avail...yet. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: Don Firth Date: 25 Feb 02 - 02:28 PM You're undoubtedly "one in a million" in many other ways, Mary, but I also thought of the song Masato posted--actually when I saw the thread title. My dad didn't regard himself as a singer. He would sing to my sisters and me when we were real little, but never around adults. I learned Old Dan Tucker and a couple of other songs from him when I was about six years old, and I remember him singing bits of In the Gloaming and a few other songs of that vintage. But if he thought somebody was actually listening, he would get embarrassed and stop singing. Too bad, because he had a fairly nice voice and a headful of songs that he'd heard growing up on San Juan Island. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: Mary in Kentucky Date: 25 Feb 02 - 02:34 PM ahhhh...thanks Don. (but I bet he says that to all the girls) I thought maybe it was an age thing instead of a culture thing...but I'm close to Spaw's age, and we thought differently...maybe. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: running.hare Date: 25 Feb 02 - 02:44 PM Well I thought of another song entirely ;) though I Don't know what it says about me culturaly. "Camp fires burning, Camp fires burning, Draw nearer, Draw nearer, In the Gloaming, In the Gloaming, Come sing and be merry." Trying to convince one or two people that it shouldn't actually be "gloing" is some times a challenge, as the've never heard of "Gloaming", So it must be wrong!!! oh well, prehaps I'll print off the Dictionary Definition for next time I head for camp. Though off course we'll have problems reading it in the 1/2 light ;¬) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: GUEST Date: 25 Feb 02 - 03:34 PM Gloaming is a picking technique on the banjo. Even Earl Scruggs has been known to gloam on occasion. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: ddw Date: 25 Feb 02 - 07:04 PM Sorcha, Not to put too fine a point on it, but I've never heard "twilight" used to mean "dawn". I checked several dictionaries to see if I was wrong, but couldn't find one that included the light before sunrise in the definition of "twilight". All said it was the time between sunset and night. cheers, david |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: artbrooks Date: 25 Feb 02 - 07:22 PM American military jargon: BMNT:Beginning Morning Nautical Twilight It has something to do with how far you can see clearly, but I can't remember the specifics. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Date: 25 Feb 02 - 07:24 PM Gloam means to darken, become dusk. OED. Hence gloaming is defined as "evening twilight" (OED). It is not applied to morning twilight. The word is akin to an old one for glow. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: masato sakurai Date: 25 Feb 02 - 07:57 PM Other "gloaming" songs from Levy.
In the Gloaming When You're Dreaming (1916)
In the Gloaming, Mother, Darling (When the Message Comes to You) (1918)
I'll Give a Penny for Your Thoughts (1889) [First Line: I was walking in the gloaming, with my sweetheart by my side]
I'll Be Waiting in the Gloaming, Sweet Genevieve (1905)
I'll Be With You When the Roses Bloom Again (1901) [First Line: They are roaming in the gloaming, where the roses are in bloom]
If You Love Me Darling Tell Me With Your Eyes (1887) [First Line: Thro' the gloaming chilly falls the silent snow]
Mello Cello (1921) [First Line: When in the gloaming the old cello plays]
For Sweet Memory Sake (1888) [First Line: The nightingale sang to his mate in the gloaming] ~Masato
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Subject: RE: BS: Gloaming? From: masato sakurai Date: 25 Feb 02 - 08:05 PM Sir Harry Lauder's "Roamin' In The Gloamin'" (sound clip) is HERE. ~Masato |