BS: Social Conciousness

Subject: Social Conciousness
From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy
Date: 27 Feb 02 - 01:55 PM

Time mag is taking a poll of people as to 'who is the most socially concious act of the century' with various choices to tick off, including Woody Guthrie. Now as to how the question is phrased, Woody was no act, but if it means who was the most socially concious songwriter, musician of the CENTURY, how can Woody be so far behind BONO, of all people, except of course that you can vote more than once, and Bono has some loyal (but not very up on the history of 20th c. music) fans. here's the link http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020304/index.html# VOTE EARLY AND VOTE OFTEN! (especially in Chicago)

Subject: RE: BS: Social Conciousness
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 27 Feb 02 - 02:05 PM

Clik here

Steve

Subject: RE: BS: Social Conciousness
From: Mrrzy
Date: 27 Feb 02 - 02:21 PM

The folks who sing them have no social conscience, why they don't even care if Jimmy crack corn... I nominate Tom Lehrer in his heyday!

Subject: RE: BS: Social Conciousness
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Feb 02 - 02:23 PM

So where's Dylan? Or Pete Seeger? Or Sparky Rucker? Or... Or... But Bob Marley? Harry Belafonte? Hmmmm? Or even the MC5, for that matter? Or.... Or....

Subject: RE: BS: Social Conciousness
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Feb 02 - 02:37 PM

I hate these things.......Dumb list, too many variables. They ask for an "act" .......or do they want a "musician?" Says different things in different places. Doesn't matter because it's pretty stupid from the gitgo. Some obvious folks missing so I guess they aren't an act or a musician or socially conscious.......

I ain't playin'.......Where's Ochs? (not long enough) Where's the Weavers? (act wasn't all that S.C....THEY were) Matter of fact where are a couple dozen other folks?

To quote Bill D..........fooey.........

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Social Conciousness
From: M.Ted
Date: 27 Feb 02 - 02:48 PM

The MC5, Bobert? "Kick out the Jams, *************! I wanna see a sea of hands!"

Subject: RE: BS: Social Conciousness
From: GUEST,Harvey the Rabbit
Date: 27 Feb 02 - 03:03 PM

Where the hell is TOM JONES????

Think about it...where would we be without Tom Jones? (BTW, He is an excellent, yet unheralded, banjo picker!)

HTR

Subject: RE: BS: Social Conciousness
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Feb 02 - 03:20 PM

MTed: Yeah, brother it's time for you to decide... whether you're going be the problem... or you're going to be the solution. It's time to testify, brother... it's time to testify. I give you a testimonial.... The MC5!!! Sorry, got a little carried away. I always love that intro. It's as good as anything on the rest of the album. Incidently, if you or anyone reading this ever gets a chance to hear John Sinclair's blues band, do it. He can tell some stories now and is quite a blues historian... Power to the People (sorry... just had to end it that way...)

Subject: RE: BS: Social Conciousness
From: InOBU
Date: 27 Feb 02 - 07:36 PM

Since my CD came out in the next century, can I have this one? I think two years into 2000 is a good time to get named the social concience of the century...course I will have to off anyone who comes along to challenge my domenence. Larry

Subject: RE: BS: Social Conciousness
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Feb 02 - 07:46 PM

what a "Friendly" thing to say, Larry..*grin*

and 'spaw...at least get it right if yer gonna quote!

It's Pooh!

...and yeah, lists like this are only good for starting arguments......

Subject: RE: BS: Social Conciousness
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Feb 02 - 08:54 PM

Joe Hill? Or Victor Jara?

A century is a long time. Logically you'd just ask the people who lived through most of it. Don't trust anyone under sixty, I always say.

Subject: RE: BS: Social Conciousness
From: M.Ted
Date: 27 Feb 02 - 09:42 PM

Bobert,

The second album is, at least in my mind, one of the best rock albums ever--As to the intro, the album only barely captured the energy of the live intro, which I saw many, many times--Even then, truth told, we all knew that the politics were just a bit absurd, but it was a hell of a show--

Subject: RE: BS: Social Conciousness
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 27 Feb 02 - 09:49 PM

WHERE is Lawrence Welk???
These polls are useless.

Subject: RE: BS: Social Conciousness
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Feb 02 - 10:31 PM

M-TED: What was the second album. I obviously have the first album with the pics of the band with the White Panter badges stuck on their bare chests but the only other MC5 is called "High Time",which I haven't played in 30 years or so... I do have an obit in the jacket of my 1st album for Rob Tyner, the lead vocalist, who died many years ago at age 46. I remember driving up to Ann Arbor in the late 60's for a White Panther gathering. I was hoping to see the MC5 but they weren't playin in the area. Did squeeze in Ted Nugent, Booker T and the MG's at an outdoor event, and the Stooges at some big concert hall in Detroit. Met some dudes and we went to cop some smoke in the bad side of town and got my white ass arrested for suspicion of armed robbery I guess for being a white dude in the wrong neighborhood at the wrong time of day. Nevermind... ol bobert can't think of the MC5 without thinkin' of my night in jail in Detroit...

Subject: RE: BS: Social Conciousness
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 27 Feb 02 - 11:29 PM

Ah---are we just a wee bit narrow in our perspective? The American political outcast, and the finest voice of the twentieth century, Paul Robeson. If you want my choice of those still breathing and singing, go to Dick Gaughan's website. Boab

Subject: RE: BS: Social Conciousness
From: M.Ted
Date: 28 Feb 02 - 12:11 PM

"Back in the USA" is the album--don't know if it is available on CD--the music is much tighter and cleaner, and more focussed than "Kick Out the Jams", with one of the most powerful shuffle beats that there ever was--it was on Atlantic, they had been dropped by, who was it? Electra I think, and the album climbed to about 30 on the Billboard charts--by this time, they had split from the White Panthers, and they no longer had American flags drapped across the amps--their reputation followed them though, and they got no airplay at all---they were not political guys, though, and their music was a physical rebellion than an intellectual one--the crowds loved them, but they fans were much more proto-metal fans than the studied Maoists that the White Panthers claimed to be--

Getting back to topic, they did inspire the whole punk rock movement--which was a very raw form of protest--all in all, Bobert, they were a very good choice--