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ADD: songs for Women's Suffrage

nutty 11 Mar 02 - 07:30 AM
masato sakurai 11 Mar 02 - 10:03 AM
CapriUni 11 Mar 02 - 03:06 PM
nutty 11 Mar 02 - 04:05 PM
Malcolm Douglas 11 Mar 02 - 04:50 PM
CapriUni 12 Mar 02 - 03:50 PM
McGrath of Harlow 12 Mar 02 - 04:50 PM
McGrath of Harlow 12 Mar 02 - 04:58 PM
CapriUni 12 Mar 02 - 06:33 PM
Joe Offer 28 Jun 12 - 08:29 PM
Joe Offer 28 Jun 12 - 08:31 PM
Joe Offer 28 Jun 12 - 08:35 PM
Jack Campin 29 Jun 12 - 05:15 AM
Snuffy 29 Jun 12 - 08:47 AM
Jack Campin 29 Jun 12 - 09:46 AM
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Subject: ADD: The Suffragettes
From: nutty
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 07:30 AM

Given the present woman/man's place threads that are on Mudcat at present I thought I might post this as my comment.
I'm not sure where I copied these words from ...... but someone may recognise them


THE SUFFRAGETTES
(H. Crawford)

Here's to the baby of five or fifteen
Here's to the widow of fifty
Here's to the flaunting extravagant queen
And here's to the hussy that's thrifty

CHORUS
Please to take note - they are in the same boat
They have not a chance of recording the vote

Here's to the lunatic helpless and lost
Of wits, well, he simply has none, sir
Here's to the woman who lives by her brains
And is treated as though she has none, sir

Here's to the criminal lodged in the goal
Voteless for what he has done, sir
Here's to the man with a dozen of votes
If a woman, he would not have one, sir

Here's to the lot of them, murderer, thief,
Forger and lunatic too, sir
Infants and those who get Parish Relief
And WOMEN, its perfectly true, sir


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Suffragettes
From: masato sakurai
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 10:03 AM

Three other suffrage songs (PDF files) are HERE. Carol Hanisch, Fight on Sisters: and Other Songs for Liberation (Franklin Printing, c1978), which is not a collection of suffrage songs, is on-line (Click here.

~Masato


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Suffragettes
From: CapriUni
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 03:06 PM

Great song, Nutty!!

Barring a tune, I will recite it in memory of my grandmother and grandaunts, who all fought for our liberation in their own way (My grandmother coached a women's college basketball team, back in the year '05)

Gosh! has it really been less than a century that we've had these rights? And already taking them for granted :::Sigh:::

So, who was H. Crawford, and when did was the song written?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Suffragettes
From: nutty
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 04:05 PM

Sorry .... I don't have any more information although I may have copied it from a book on Broadsides that I got out of the library

It's been sitting in a file for years ... just found it again recently when I had a clear-out.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Suffragettes
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 04:50 PM

It looks to be modelled on Here's to the Maiden of Bashful Fifteen from Sheridan's play The Rivals; it's easy to find midis of that tune, though few sites acknowledge any source.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Suffragettes
From: CapriUni
Date: 12 Mar 02 - 03:50 PM

Thanks, Masato! I shall hunt for it... (I love this kind of hunting!)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Suffragettes
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Mar 02 - 04:50 PM

There's one other category of non-eligible-to-vote that is left out in the song - peers and royalty.

I was pleased to see "hussy" used in its older sense, meaning housewife, without the derogatory meaning it has rather curiously been landed with.

Hereis a link to the words and the tune of "The March of the Women", which I believe served as the main Anthem for Suffragettes (in England anyway). With a sound file of it being sung. Very rousing.

I'd reckon with a bit of adjustment of the words it'd make a pretty good National Anthem. (Better than Gord Save the Queen, but that's not saying much, so is Pop Goes the Weasel.)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Suffragettes
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Mar 02 - 04:58 PM

Lookin at the words again, I think they'd probably be fine as they are:

Shout, shout, up with your song!
Cry with the wind for the dawn is breaking;
March, march, swing you along,
Wide blows our banner and hope is waking.

Song with its story, dreams with their glory,
Lo! they call, and glad is their word!
Loud and louder it swells,
Thunder of freedom, the voice of the Lord!

Long, long, we in the past,
Cowered in dread from the light of heaven.
Strong, strong, stand we at last,
Fearless in faith and with sight new-given.

Of course it'd probably be a bit radical for Tony Blair...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Suffragettes
From: CapriUni
Date: 12 Mar 02 - 06:33 PM

Thanks, McGrath! I am going to pass this on to cousins and acquaintances.

I particularly like the line:

"Firm in reliance, laugh a defiance, (Laugh in hope, for sure is the end)"


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Subject: ADD: Keep Woman in Her Sphere
From: Joe Offer
Date: 28 Jun 12 - 08:29 PM

A woman asked me today if we had women's suffrage songs at Mudcat. I was dismayed to find that we have only this one thread, so I thought I should augment it. The next three songs will be from a link Masato provided way back in 2002. Be sure to take a listen to the Smithsonian/Folkways album, Songs of the Suffragettes, a 1958 recording by Elizabeth Knight. By mistake, I bought a second copy of this album. If you want it (no charge), contact me at joe@mudcat.org
-Joe-

KEEP WOMAN IN HER SPHERE
[tune: Auld Lang Syne]
(D. Estabrook)

I have a neighbor, one of those
Not very hard to find
Who know it all without debate
And never change their mind
I asked him "What of woman's rights?"
He said in tones severe--
"My mind on that is all made up,
Keep woman in her sphere."

I saw a man in tattered garb
Forth from the grog-shop come
He squandered all his cash for drink
and starved his wife at home
I asked him "Should not woman vote"
He answered with a sneer--
"I've taught my wife to know her place,
Keep woman in her sphere."

I met an earnest, thoughtful man
Not many days ago
Who pondered deep all human law
The honest truth to know
I asked him"What of woman's cause?"
The answer came sincere --
"Her rights are just the same as mine,
Let woman choose her sphere."



This song is found in numerous suffrage
songbooks, and was widely sung at
rallies.

Source: http://creativefolk.com/suffrage.pdf


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Subject: ADD: The New America
From: Joe Offer
Date: 28 Jun 12 - 08:31 PM

THE NEW AMERICA
[tune: America]

Our country, now from thee
Claim we our liberty
In freedom's name
Guarding home's altar fires
Daughters of patriot sires
Their zeal our own inspires
Justice to claim

Women in every age
For this great heritage
Tribute have paid
Our birth-right claim we now
Longer refuse to bow
On freedom's altar now
Our hand is laid

Sons, will you longer see
Mothers on bended knee
For justice pray?
Rise now, in manhood's might
With earth's great souls unite
To speed the dawning light
Of freedom's day



Sung at the National-American Woman's
Suffrage Convention, 1891, this
song reflects a common suffrage
argument — that giving women
the vote simply fullfilled the
promise of 1776.


Source: http://creativefolk.com/suffrage.pdf


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Subject: ADD: Oh, Dear, What Can the Matter Be? (suffrage)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 28 Jun 12 - 08:35 PM

OH, DEAR, WHAT CAN THE MATTER BE?
[tune: Oh Dear, What Can the Matter Be?]
(L. May Wheeler)

Oh Dear, what can the matter be
Dear dear what can the matter be
Oh dear, what can the matter be
Women are wanting to vote

Women have husbands, they are protected
Women have sons by whom they're directed
Women have fathers, they're not neglected
Why are they wanting to vote?

Women have homes, there they should labor
Women have children whom they should favor
Women have time to learn of each neighbor
Why are they wanting to vote?

Women can dress, they love society
Women have cash with all its variety
Women can pray with sweetest piety
Why are they wanting to vote?

Women have reared all the sons of the brave
Women have shared n the burdens they gave
Women have labored this country to save
And that's why we're going to vote

Oh Dear, what can the matter be
Dear dear what can the matter be
Oh dear, what can the matter be
Why should men get every vote?



Set to a popular parlour tune, this song addresses
an argument made against woman's suffrage: that
women already had everything they needed —
male protection, a sphere of their own — and
didn't need to vote as well.

Source: http://creativefolk.com/suffrage.pdf


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Subject: RE: ADD: songs for Women's Suffrage
From: Jack Campin
Date: 29 Jun 12 - 05:15 AM

There is one suffrage movement song that just about everybody in the English-speaking world knows - Parry's "Jerusalem".


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Subject: RE: ADD: songs for Women's Suffrage
From: Snuffy
Date: 29 Jun 12 - 08:47 AM

I think Blake had some input as well!


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Subject: RE: ADD: songs for Women's Suffrage
From: Jack Campin
Date: 29 Jun 12 - 09:46 AM

Yeah, but it was Parry's idea to use it as a feminist anthem.


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Subject: RE: ADD: songs for Women's Suffrage
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 25 Apr 18 - 10:09 AM

clicky for the Gerri Gribi CreativeFolk website above (...an award-winning musician, historian and educator who strives to bring the "unsung" history of women and minorities to life.)
http://creativefolk.com


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