Manchester Gallop

Subject: Manchester Gallop
From: Dug
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 05:45 PM

Manchester Gallop- a traditional Australian tune, or a traditional English tune? Any help gratefully received

Subject: RE: Manchester Gallop
From: Noreen
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 06:00 PM

Never heard the name, Dug- can you link to a copy of the dots or a MIDI in case I know it under a different name?

Noreen

in Bury, near Manchester, England.

Subject: RE: Manchester Gallop
From: Dug
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 06:03 PM

Noreen, sorry- I'm not that clever. I'll hum it to you- it goes like this...dee de du du du dee du du du du dee...Hmmm, hang on that isn't working...Err...I'll try and find a link for you....

Subject: RE: Manchester Gallop
From: Noreen
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 06:06 PM

Oh, THAT one! Hey, it's....

Subject: RE: Manchester Gallop
From: Noreen
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 06:21 PM

The only Gallop I know is the Winster Gallop (click here) which happens to be Bill Sables's favourite tune...

JC's tunefinder couldn't find one called Manchester Gallop, so it would appear not to be a well-known name.

More info, Dug?

Subject: RE: Manchester Gallop
From: greg stephens
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 07:02 PM

I'm intrigued. I know five differeent tunes called "The Manchester Hornpipe" but no Gallop.As I collect NW English tunes,do pass this one along.

Subject: RE: Manchester Gallop
From: Dug
Date: 13 Mar 02 - 07:10 PM

I'll have to try and contact Bob Bolton- he's sure to know...

Subject: RE: Manchester Gallop
From: Sorcha
Date: 13 Mar 02 - 08:06 PM

Yes, it seems like it's a popular Oz bush band tune, and available in:
A Third Collection of English Country Dance Tunes
Arranged A D Townsend
I don't know if the book is still available.

Subject: RE: Manchester Gallop
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 13 Mar 02 - 09:51 PM

G'day Dug,

This is collected in the Upper Murray Valley - Corryong/Nariel area. The dance should be called Manschester and is (in this version, anyway) of Swiss origin. More broadly, it is a variant of Lot ist Tod a German dance, as well as a children's game.

In more recent collecting, starting with John Meredith's second stint, in the 1980s, we have found quite a few more versions, as well as a number of related tunes collected by Mark Schuster and Maria Zann in their native 'Germanic' communities around Toowoomba, Queensland (descended from 1880s refugees from Bismarck's conquest of their free-states &c), as well as Mudgee and Holbrook in New South Wales (1860s refugees from the earlier stages) and among the 'Barossa Deutsch' of South Australia - who were settled there as refugees from religious/political/economic repression in the 1830s.

However. I have heard some very similar tunes in material from the south of England (Uncle's Jig ... Copper Family ... ??? ... comes to mind).

Regards,

Bob Bolton

Subject: RE: Manchester Gallop
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 13 Mar 02 - 09:56 PM

G'day again,

I also should have mentioned that awareness of some of these Germanic tunes makes more sense of a lot of distinctive "Mudgee tunes" - found only around the Mudgee region of NSW in the 1950s. A lot of descendants of the older Germanic migrants concealed their background ... often changing their surnames ... during the two World Wars.

Now we have a good range of tunes known to be old Germanic ones, we find a lot are related to the ones collected in the Mudgee region in the '50s.

Regards,

Bob Bolton

Subject: RE: Manchester Gallop
From: JennieG
Date: 13 Mar 02 - 10:09 PM

There is a dance Manchester Gallop to that tune too - sometimes known as the Kamikaze Polka, which is how some people insist on dancing it!
Cheers
JennieG who has been injured on the dance floor more times than she cares to remember!

Subject: RE: Manchester Gallop
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 14 Mar 02 - 07:23 AM

G'day again,

Jennie is right - the dance and tune go together. The Dance is derived from Lott ist Tod:

It starts with 4 slow steps into the circle (in the game ... checking to see is Lot is, indeed dead ...) then has 8 fast outwards (... he is! ...). After a few times through this 'check and retreat' routine, all couples engage in a free polka about the hall (usually across Jennie's feet and shins ...!).

Regards,

Bob Bolton

Subject: RE: Manchester Gallop
From: masato sakurai
Date: 14 Mar 02 - 09:17 AM

The Fiddler's Companion says:

MANCHESTER GALLOP. AKA and see "Paddy O'Flinn/O'Flynn." Australian. This is the title used for a couples dance in NE Victoria.

~Masato

Subject: RE: Manchester Gallop
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 14 Mar 02 - 09:43 PM

G'day Masato,

The Paddy O'Fli(y)nn reference escapes me ... I will check that when I get home ... but the area Manchester Galop comes from (in Australia, anyway) is indeed NE Victoria - round about where Nariel Creek joins the Murray River (border with New South Wales). I was living just over Bringenbrong Crossing (the border) when I worked on the Snowy Mts Hydro Scheme in the 1960s.

I used to get down to Corryong for the 50/50 dances (half old time ..very old time) run at the Memorial Hall by the Nariel Band. I did not know then, but there had been some friction between the Nariel Band and another local band ... even more traditionally oriented! The Manchester Galop seems to come out of the disputed territory between the two bands and their followers.

Folklorist Rob Willis is just starting to get a clear picture of this period ... and I will press him for more details when I see him at the (Australian) National Folk Festival, in Canberra over this coming Easter.

Regards,

Bob Bolton

Subject: RE: Manchester Gallop
From: Hrothgar
Date: 15 Mar 02 - 04:36 AM

The late Shirley Andrews, in her book "Take Your Partners" says "... an English folk dancer, Guy Towner ... found a number of very similar dances in various European countires, including one in Czechoslovakia and two in Switzerland, called Manschester. The steps of one of the Swiss ones as well as the first section of the music for it are almost identical with those of the dance known as the Manchester Gallop in Nariel."

Shirley Andrews, "Take Your Partners," Hyland House Publishing Pty Ltd, Melbourne, 1979.

Subject: RE: Manchester Gallop
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 15 Mar 02 - 08:11 AM

G'day again Masato,

(And Hrothgar: You're right in what you quote from Shirley Andrews, but I wanted to see what the view was from the other side of the microphone ... the Klippel family, who she first saw play and teach the dance ... including to me, when I was working in the area. This text comes from Music Makes Me Smile, the story of the Nariel Band.)

I'm afraid I am still puzzled by the Paddy O'Flynn reference in respect of the Mänschester. This may simply be the name of another tune, played along with the original the Mänschester or Lott ist tod tune to make the dance set more interesting.

What Peter Ellis and Harry Gardner, writing of the Klippel family, of Nariel Creek, have to say of the origins of the Mänschester is as follows:

"Apart from bringing out the flutina and presumably what was to become the Nariel style of playing, it is significant that three of the dance which in Australia are endemic to Nariel, were most likely brought out from Germany by the Klippels. The Mänschester was being taught in the salons of Berlin at the time of the Klippel emigration. This dance is derived from the earlier folk dance "Lott ist Dod" and the Nariel form, minus the polka, was being performed instead with smooth waltz type turns and accordingly known as the Manchester Galop. (Further information on The Berlin Polka and Uncle Ev's Barn Dance)

The traditional Klippel family style of playing the Mänschester was as in the MIDI that follows:

MIDI file: manc-nar.mid

Timebase: 240

TimeSig: 4/4 24 8
Tempo: 116 (517241 microsec/crotchet)
Start
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The younger players of the district now play it more in this style:

MIDI file: manc-new.mid

Timebase: 240

TimeSig: 4/4 24 8
Tempo: 116 (517241 microsec/crotchet)
Start
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Both of these are in 'Common time'. The Bush Music Club (at least as I remember over the last 39 years) has played the tune in 6/8 ... as follows (rather faster - pace JennieG's poor feet!):

MIDI file: manc-bmc.mid

Timebase: 240

TimeSig: 6/8 36 8
Tempo: 192 (312500 microsec/crotchet)
Start
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To get back to origins, this is the Lott ist Tod colled bt Zann & Schuster, from Percy Spann, of Toowoomba:

MIDI file: lott-tod.mid

Timebase: 240

TimeSig: 4/4 24 8
Tempo: 128 (468750 microsec/crotchet)
Start
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End

This program is worth the effort of learning it.

To download the latest version of MIDItext and get instructions on how to use it click here

ABC format:

X:1
T:
M:4/4
Q:1/4=128
K:C
c4B4|A2BAG4|F3/2F/2F3/2F/2E3/2E/2E3/2E/2|
D3/2D/2E3/2D/2C4|E3/2G/2C2E3/2G/2C2|F3/2D/2c3/2A/2A2G3/2F/2|
E3/2G/2C3/2D/2E3/2G/2C3/2D/2|D3/2F/2FB,D2C2|
c4B4|A2BAG4|F3/2F/2F3/2F/2E3/2E/2E3/2E/2|
D3/2D/2E3/2D/2C4|E3/2G/2C2E3/2G/2C2|F3/2D/2c3/2A/2A2G3/2F/2|
E3/2G/2C3/2D/2E3/2G/2C3/2D/2|D3/2F/2FB,D2C3/2||

Percy plays this straight through, presumably to suit the local form of the dance. I would repeat each 4-bar line – to suit the popular Manchester Galop form of the dance and it would sound more like:

MIDI file: lott-rep.mid

Timebase: 240

TimeSig: 4/4 24 8
Tempo: 128 (468750 microsec/crotchet)
Start
0000 1 72 080 0384 0 72 064 0096 1 71 080 0384 0 71 064 0096 1 69 080 0192 0 69 064 0048 1 71 080 0096 0 71 064 0024 1 69 080 0113 0 69 064 0007 1 67 080 0384 0 67 064 0096 1 65 080 0144 0 65 064 0036 1 65 080 0048 0 65 064 0012 1 65 080 0144 0 65 064 0036 1 65 080 0048 0 65 064 0012 1 64 080 0144 0 64 064 0036 1 64 080 0048 0 64 064 0012 1 64 080 0144 0 64 064 0036 1 64 080 0048 0 64 064 0012 1 62 080 0144 0 62 064 0036 1 62 080 0048 0 62 064 0012 1 64 080 0144 0 64 064 0036 1 62 080 0048 0 62 064 0012 1 60 080 0384 0 60 064 0096 1 72 080 0384 0 72 064 0096 1 71 080 0384 0 71 064 0096 1 69 080 0192 0 69 064 0048 1 71 080 0096 0 71 064 0024 1 69 080 0113 0 69 064 0007 1 67 080 0384 0 67 064 0096 1 65 080 0144 0 65 064 0036 1 65 080 0048 0 65 064 0012 1 65 080 0144 0 65 064 0036 1 65 080 0048 0 65 064 0012 1 64 080 0144 0 64 064 0036 1 64 080 0048 0 64 064 0012 1 64 080 0144 0 64 064 0036 1 64 080 0048 0 64 064 0012 1 62 080 0144 0 62 064 0036 1 62 080 0048 0 62 064 0012 1 64 080 0144 0 64 064 0036 1 62 080 0048 0 62 064 0012 1 60 080 0384 0 60 064 0096 1 64 080 0144 0 64 064 0036 1 67 080 0048 0 67 064 0012 1 60 080 0192 0 60 064 0048 1 64 080 0144 0 64 064 0036 1 67 080 0048 0 67 064 0012 1 60 080 0192 0 60 064 0048 1 65 080 0144 0 65 064 0036 1 62 080 0048 0 62 064 0012 1 72 080 0144 0 72 064 0036 1 69 080 0048 0 69 064 0012 1 69 080 0192 0 69 064 0048 1 67 080 0144 0 67 064 0036 1 65 080 0048 0 65 064 0012 1 64 080 0144 0 64 064 0036 1 67 080 0048 0 67 064 0012 1 60 080 0144 0 60 064 0036 1 62 080 0048 0 62 064 0012 1 64 080 0144 0 64 064 0036 1 67 080 0048 0 67 064 0012 1 60 080 0144 0 60 064 0036 1 62 080 0048 0 62 064 0012 1 62 080 0144 0 62 064 0036 1 65 080 0048 0 65 064 0012 1 65 080 0096 0 65 064 0024 1 59 080 0096 0 59 064 0024 1 62 080 0192 0 62 064 0048 1 60 080 0192 0 60 064 0048 1 64 080 0144 0 64 064 0036 1 67 080 0048 0 67 064 0012 1 60 080 0192 0 60 064 0048 1 64 080 0144 0 64 064 0036 1 67 080 0048 0 67 064 0012 1 60 080 0192 0 60 064 0048 1 65 080 0144 0 65 064 0036 1 62 080 0048 0 62 064 0012 1 72 080 0144 0 72 064 0036 1 69 080 0048 0 69 064 0012 1 69 080 0192 0 69 064 0048 1 67 080 0144 0 67 064 0036 1 65 080 0048 0 65 064 0012 1 64 080 0144 0 64 064 0036 1 67 080 0048 0 67 064 0012 1 60 080 0144 0 60 064 0036 1 62 080 0048 0 62 064 0012 1 64 080 0144 0 64 064 0036 1 67 080 0048 0 67 064 0012 1 60 080 0144 0 60 064 0036 1 62 080 0048 0 62 064 0012 1 62 080 0144 0 62 064 0036 1 65 080 0048 0 65 064 0012 1 65 080 0096 0 65 064 0024 1 59 080 0096 0 59 064 0024 1 62 080 0192 0 62 064 0048 1 60 080 0192 0 60 064
End

This program is worth the effort of learning it.

To download the latest version of MIDItext and get instructions on how to use it click here

ABC format:

X:1
T:
M:4/4
Q:1/4=128
K:C
c4B4|A2BAG4|F3/2F/2F3/2F/2E3/2E/2E3/2E/2|
D3/2D/2E3/2D/2C4|c4B4|A2BAG4|F3/2F/2F3/2F/2E3/2E/2E3/2E/2|
D3/2D/2E3/2D/2C4|E3/2G/2C2E3/2G/2C2|F3/2D/2c3/2A/2A2G3/2F/2|
E3/2G/2C3/2D/2E3/2G/2C3/2D/2|D3/2F/2FB,D2C2|
E3/2G/2C2E3/2G/2C2|F3/2D/2c3/2A/2A2G3/2F/2|
E3/2G/2C3/2D/2E3/2G/2C3/2D/2|D3/2F/2FB,D2C3/2||

BTW: Don't try to follow the links in the text, for Alan of Oz's MIDItxt program ... he has changed his URL ... but I am still using the old program (Alan ... HELP!!!)

Regards,

Bob Bolton

Subject: RE: Manchester Gallop
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 16 Mar 02 - 02:07 AM

G'day again,

Here is a further note on the tune we now call Manchester Galop. This is from the Background Notes in Bush Dance, David Johnson, Bush Music Club, 1984/1987/1997 ... design, editing and illustration by some bloke called Bob Bolton ...):

"The MANCHESTER GALOP is, of course, the set tune for the dance of the same name. It is also known as the Murray River and the Bocca Schottische. The tune is often written in 4/4 schottische time rather than the 6/8 single jig time given here. The change in time signature may indicate a slight change in the interpretation of the tune since it was first collected at Nariel by the Victorian Folklore Society.>

I note that this tune, played in 6/8 time, seems to work well with the quite similar English tune; Uncle's Jig. I wonder if UK players (ubiquitous round here, back in the '60s/'70s "Folk Revival" era) were a factor in the 'evolution' of this tune from the slower, steady, schottische-style Nariel Creek version to the faster jig-time version common today?

Regards,

Bob Bolton

Subject: RE: Manchester Gallop
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 18 Mar 02 - 07:22 AM

G'day yet agin ...

Hmmmm ... I think I killed this thread with all those indigestible MIDIs ... ?

Anyway, I might as well round it all out:

I thought I should look at Shirley Andrews's Take Your Partners, mentioned above by Hothgar, if only to see how her tune compared with the others. Guess what – it's somewhat different again. This one is in 4/4, (essentially the same time signature as the Common time of the Nariel versions) has a rather "flatter" style (perhaps, just that of the transcriber) and some variant endings to lines 2 and 4. I will post the MIDItext file below. Shirley mentions there the similar tune Bocca Schottische played by the Wedderburn Oldtimers – a band made up of very senior citizens (and a source of some fine tunes and songs), also of Victoria.

I also noticed that Shirley's reference to Guy Towner's research and an article in Australian Tradition, no. 23, September 1970. I looked at this and found a rather dry, scholarly article about Towner's search, but the table of related dances was interesting. I don't know how to align these into table format (indeed, I heard a suggestion, in another thread, that tables didn't work well in this forum) so you may need to mentally align these.

Manchester Galop Australia
Manchester Czechoslovakia
Manchester (#1) Switzerland
Manchester (#2) Switzerland
Ladita (Lott' ist tod) Sweden [2 different books]
Lottista Norway
Lot is Dood Holland *
Languus (Lamgmuus) Switzerland
Manchester Galop Australia
Old Maid Finland

* (Towner says): "No description given. Assumed to be a similar dance because of name". As it happens, I was playing the (Toowoomba-collected) Lott ist Tod near a Dutch acquaintance who immediately recognised it from his childhood as Lotte is doode (my transliteration ... I did not ask him to write it down ... and his Dutch is very rusty). His description of the children's game/dance is what I told above, in comparison to the "bush dance" form. (Incidentally, in his description, "Lotte" is female ... ?)

MIDItext of Shirley Andrews's version of Manchester Galop tune:

MIDI file: manc-typ.mid

Timebase: 240

TimeSig: 4/4 24 8
Tempo: 116 (517241 microsec/crotchet)
Start
0720 1 67 080 0064 0 67 064 0016 1 69 080 0064 0 69 064 0016 1 71 080 0064 0 71 064 0016 1 72 080 0192 0 72 064 0048 1 72 080 0225 0 72 064 0015 1 71 080 0225 0 71 064 0015 1 71 080 0225 0 71 064 0015 1 69 080 0225 0 69 064 0015 1 69 080 0225 0 69 064 0015 1 67 080 0450 0 67 064 0030 1 65 080 0113 0 65 064 0007 1 67 080 0113 0 67 064 0007 1 69 080 0113 0 69 064 0007 1 65 080 0113 0 65 064 0007 1 64 080 0113 0 64 064 0007 1 65 080 0113 0 65 064 0007 1 67 080 0113 0 67 064 0007 1 64 080 0113 0 64 064 0007 1 62 080 0113 0 62 064 0007 1 65 080 0113 0 65 064 0007 1 64 080 0113 0 64 064 0007 1 62 080 0113 0 62 064 0007 1 60 080 0192 0 60 064 0048 1 67 080 0064 0 67 064 0016 1 69 080 0064 0 69 064 0016 1 71 080 0064 0 71 064 0016 1 72 080 0225 0 72 064 0015 1 72 080 0225 0 72 064 0015 1 71 080 0225 0 71 064 0015 1 71 080 0225 0 71 064 0015 1 69 080 0225 0 69 064 0015 1 69 080 0225 0 69 064 0015 1 67 080 0450 0 67 064 0030 1 65 080 0113 0 65 064 0007 1 67 080 0113 0 67 064 0007 1 69 080 0113 0 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72 064 0016 0 67 064 0016 1 69 080 0064 0 69 064 0016 1 71 080 0064 0 71 064 0016 1 72 080 0192 0 72 064 0048 1 72 080 0225 0 72 064 0015 1 71 080 0225 0 71 064 0015 1 71 080 0225 0 71 064 0015 1 69 080 0225 0 69 064 0015 1 69 080 0225 0 69 064 0015 1 67 080 0450 0 67 064 0030 1 65 080 0113 0 65 064 0007 1 67 080 0113 0 67 064 0007 1 69 080 0113 0 69 064 0007 1 65 080 0113 0 65 064 0007 1 64 080 0113 0 64 064 0007 1 65 080 0113 0 65 064 0007 1 67 080 0113 0 67 064 0007 1 64 080 0113 0 64 064 0007 1 62 080 0113 0 62 064 0007 1 65 080 0113 0 65 064 0007 1 64 080 0113 0 64 064 0007 1 62 080 0113 0 62 064 0007 1 60 080 0192 0 60 064 0048 1 67 080 0064 0 67 064 0016 1 69 080 0064 0 69 064 0016 1 71 080 0064 0 71 064 0016 1 72 080 0225 0 72 064 0015 1 72 080 0225 0 72 064 0015 1 71 080 0225 0 71 064 0015 1 71 080 0225 0 71 064 0015 1 69 080 0225 0 69 064 0015 1 69 080 0225 0 69 064 0015 1 67 080 0450 0 67 064 0030 1 65 080 0113 0 65 064 0007 1 67 080 0113 0 67 064 0007 1 69 080 0113 0 69 064 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0016 0 67 064 0016 1 69 080 0064 0 69 064 0016 1 71 080 0064 0 71 064
End

This program is worth the effort of learning it.

To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here

ABC format:

X:1
T:
M:4/4
Q:1/4=116
K:C
G27/4A/2B3/4|c2c2B2B2|A2A2G4|FGAFEFGE|DFEDC2G3/4A/2B3/4|
c2c2B2B2|A2A2G4|FGAFEFGE|DFABc3G|E3/4G/2E3/4C3/2G/2E3/4G/2E3/4C3/4E/2G3/4|
c2B3/2A/2G3G|E3/4G/2E3/4C3/2G/2E3/4G/2E3/4C3/2E/2|
D2D3/2E/2D3G|E3/4G/2E3/4C3/2G/2E3/4G/2E3/4C3/4E/2G3/4|
c2B3/2A/2G3G|FAGFEGFE|DGABc2G3/4A/2B3/4|c2c2B2B2|
A2A2G4|FGAFEFGE|DFEDC2G3/4A/2B3/4|c2c2B2B2|
A2A2G4|FGAFEFGE|DFABc3G|E3/4G/2E3/4C3/2G/2E3/4G/2E3/4C3/4E/2G3/4|
c2B3/2A/2G3G|E3/4G/2E3/4C3/2G/2E3/4G/2E3/4C3/2E/2|
D2D3/2E/2D3G|E3/4G/2E3/4C3/2G/2E3/4G/2E3/4C3/4E/2G3/4|
c2B3/2A/2G3G|FAGFEGFE|DGABc2G3/4A/2B/2||

Regards,

Bob Bolton

Subject: RE: Manchester Gallop
From: Dug
Date: 27 Nov 02 - 06:57 PM

Bob- I've only just read all of this scholarly stuff! We could've talked about it when you came up to my parents place in the Blue Mountains in August!   Thanks for all of this. I think I've got enough information now!

Doug

Subject: RE: Manchester Gallop
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 08:33 AM

G'day Dug,

So that's why you went away to snooze in the "Oz Day" thread ...?

BTW: Have you seen my review of More Than Europe Knowsyet!

Regard(les)s,

Bob Bolton

Subject: RE: Manchester Gallop
From: Mr Red
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 09:37 AM

so is there a swing to the left or a swing to the right in this Manchester Galop Poll?

Subject: RE: Manchester Gallop
From: Hrothgar
Date: 29 Nov 02 - 03:08 AM

It's not a swing, it's a gallop - clockwise, going anti-clockwise along the line of dance. That is, unless you dance the 8 outward steps in the first part of the dance in a curve. Now, is that to left or right? It's usually in an arc that is concave to the line of dance ...

Best of luck!

Could have simplified all this by just telling people to dance it to "Click Go The Shears" ("Ring The Bell, Watchman").

:-))

Subject: RE: Manchester Gallop
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 29 Nov 02 - 05:55 AM

G'day Hrothgar,

Bloody Anglophile old-school folkies ... we actually have a range of authentic "Germanic" Lot Ist Tod tunes for the dance these days - mostly courtesy of Mark Schuster & Maria Zann, out of Toowoomba, Queensland.

(OK - and I do know that I'm niggling ... and Ring the Bell Watchman is American - Henry Clay Work, 1865 - but it was fun complaining!)

Regard(les)s,

Bob Bolton

Subject: RE: Manchester Gallop
From: GUEST,Dodsworth
Date: 19 Nov 17 - 05:24 PM

'Swing to the left, swing to the right.', love it.

Subject: RE: Manchester Gallop
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 07 Jul 22 - 05:57 AM

I have not tried the link in today's post above but it looks dodgy.

I thought I had posted previously about this dance, but it's not in this thread and I can't find another one.

Consistent with the above comments about the German influence, there is in fact a German dance of this name. See for instance here for a description (in German), and scroll down to a video. The tune is closely related to the English Manchester Gallop tune, but simpler.

I think I once found some info on how the German dance came to be named for an English town, but I've forgotten the story.