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GUEST,Phillipe 18 Mar 02 - 11:49 PM
Wilfried Schaum 19 Mar 02 - 03:22 AM
reggie miles 19 Mar 02 - 03:28 AM
Wilfried Schaum 20 Mar 02 - 06:15 AM
Joe in the'pool 20 Mar 02 - 07:18 AM
Murray MacLeod 20 Mar 02 - 07:40 AM
C-flat 20 Mar 02 - 07:52 AM
Joe in the'pool 20 Mar 02 - 08:10 AM
Murray MacLeod 20 Mar 02 - 08:56 AM
Wilfried Schaum 20 Mar 02 - 10:06 AM
Herga Kitty 20 Mar 02 - 01:50 PM
wildlone 20 Mar 02 - 03:32 PM
Murray MacLeod 20 Mar 02 - 06:23 PM
Herga Kitty 21 Mar 02 - 04:56 PM
Mr Red 22 Mar 02 - 03:25 PM
pavane 22 Mar 02 - 06:08 PM
GUEST 23 Mar 02 - 08:16 AM
Peg 23 Mar 02 - 10:58 AM
Mudlark 23 Mar 02 - 08:47 PM
Sorcha 23 Mar 02 - 09:14 PM
CraigS 08 Oct 02 - 08:21 PM
Micca 09 Oct 02 - 09:49 AM
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Subject: French Wine Guide
From: GUEST,Phillipe
Date: 18 Mar 02 - 11:49 PM

Do you like wine?

Next to home-brewed-beer and moonshine what folk-music lover doesn't enjoy some from the fermented fruit of the vine?

Bottle of wine,
Truly devine,
When you goin to let me get sober?
Leave me alone,
Let me go home,
Let me go home and start over.

Please pay a visit to my fellow Frenchmen's page - guaranteed you will enjoy!

http://www.terroir-france.com


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Subject: RE: French Wine Guide
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 19 Mar 02 - 03:22 AM

Mercy beaucoup, cher Philippe, pour votre link.
Reminds me of my numerous prolonged weekends in Alsace and Burgundy.
To all travellers from abroad in Alsace: Just cross the rhine and try the German wines of Baden, too.

Wilfried


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Subject: RE: French Wine Guide
From: reggie miles
Date: 19 Mar 02 - 03:28 AM

Philippe and Wilfried, sounds like heaven


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Subject: RE: French Wine Guide
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 20 Mar 02 - 06:15 AM

Believe me, Reggie, IT IS!

Wilfried


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Subject: RE: French Wine Guide
From: Joe in the'pool
Date: 20 Mar 02 - 07:18 AM

Hiya mmm

Life's too short to drink bad wine, so could you help me we're going to Corsica in May, so, if anyone knows of a good wine or two to sample, I'd love to hear from yer.

Ta. Joe


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Subject: Lyr Add:THE WINE SONG (Grant Baynham)
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 20 Mar 02 - 07:40 AM

THE WINE SONG

by Grant Baynham


There are those who like their wine because it adds sophistication
To that hearty meal they're serving to their friends
And there are those who like their wine because it helps in the creation
Of that party feel on which so much depends
Then there are those who like their wine to come from eastward-facing chateaux
On the the plateaus of the Loire and all that bunk
Their motives are not mine,
I like lots and lots of wine
But I like it 'cos it makes me drunk.

There are those who take a glass because it helps them to relax
They find it helps their social manner to improve,
It's a jolly useful scheme
Which I have taken to its logical extreme
Sometimes I get so well relaxed I can't move
Then there's another kind of fellow drinks champagne to get him mellow
And he swears by Clicquot, Bollinger and Brut
I tried some Brut myself, I found it on the bathroom shelf
And he was right, it got me mellow as a newt.

REFRAIN: You can gauge your wine by the quality of the vine,
The colour and bouquet and all that bunk
But it all comes back to the falling-over factor
And the fact that it gets you drunk.

There are those who like to think that it's important what they drink
They haven't got an inkling what it's all about
They spend their evenings wasting decent drinking time by tasting
Drops of this and that and spitting it all out !
They wander round the tables, they even read the labels
Muttering things like "What a pity the cork has shrunk,"
"Fruity nose" or "too much tannin",
They ought to get a man in
Who'd appreciate the chance to get drunk.

They waste their time describing
What they ought to be imbibing
Which is wine of course although you'd never think it,
And they use words like "young but promising", "precocious", "full of fun",
You'd think they were going to adopt the stuff, not drink it,
And at a meal those silly asses
Have a row of empty glasses
A different wine for every dish they eat,
Me ? I mix whatever's handy in a stiff all-purpose shandy
That goes very nice with fish or shredded wheat.

(REFRAIN)

Then there are those who take delight
Pronouncing all the labels right
They roll their "R's" and do those German glottals.
Me ? I couldn't give a monkeys's
'Cos the stuff for getting drunk is on the
Inside not the outside of the bottle.
So when you have your cheese and wine, invite your friendly philistine
Call me drunkard, call me sot, or call me wino (what do I know)
You'll find me in the kitchen,
Giggling and twitchin'
Having a sup and throwing up across your lino

REFRAIN (altered)

You can gauge your wine by the quality of the wine ,
The colour and bouquet if you insist ...........
But it all comes back to the falling over factor
And the fact that it gets you .................
Misty- eyed and mellow................
Gets you maudlin, mawkish, miserable ..........
And PISSED!!

Murray


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Subject: RE: French Wine Guide
From: C-flat
Date: 20 Mar 02 - 07:52 AM

Murray, do you know the melody for that song? I'd like to learn it!


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Subject: RE: French Wine Guide
From: Joe in the'pool
Date: 20 Mar 02 - 08:10 AM

Murray,

Abso'bloody'lutly agree, great sentiments.. so do you know of any Corsican wine then!

Joe


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Subject: RE: French Wine Guide
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 20 Mar 02 - 08:56 AM

C-flat I do indeed know the melody, I doubt if it is available online anywhere , but I could send you a tape of my recording of it if you want to PM me your address. If you are in the States do it fast as I'll be out of the country in three days time.

I have to warn you, the guitar part on this is not easy ! Well, not so much difficult, but it takes some practising to get it down.

Kendall. if you are reading this, I am going to send you your tape of this song as well. I did actually do it on the radio on WLRN on Sunday afternoon, but I forgot to announce it ....

Murray


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Subject: RE: French Wine Guide
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 20 Mar 02 - 10:06 AM

Oh Murray - what an absolutely detesting song - and so funny! Serves them connoisseurs right who are described there and only know what has to be known to "be in".
But I must tell you that the drinks in Germany usually used to get pissed are beer and schnapps; wine is for enjoyment and drunk in smaller quantities. Maybe you have noted the difference between steins and wine glasses in measures (liters and small parts of them).
Living in between three major wine producing regions it is very easy to choose a good wine. By experience you know where to go. Taste it, and if it suits you, order some bottles, if not, ask for another one or change the producer.
Producing wine is hard work in the fields, or as in Germany, in the steep hills. So we honour those labouring people in praising their work by drinking with joy and temperance.

Wilfried


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Subject: RE: French Wine Guide
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 20 Mar 02 - 01:50 PM

Murray

Grant Baynham is of course a fiendishly good guitar player, as well as a writer of some very funny and satirical songs - I haven't heard him do the Wine Song, but would like to!

Wilfried - I think the most useful thing I learned on my first visit to Germany was that Rhine wines live in brown bottles and Moselle wines in green ones. Also beer before wine = fine, wine before beer = queer (in the queasy sense of the word).

Philippe - the grand crus are of course sublime, but some of the chateaux are temperamental and inconsistent. I think the English have been subverted by wines from the New World, and tastes have got progressively drier. Last I heard, the most widely bought wine was Jacob's Creek Chardonnay (mostly by women in supermarkets.

Kitty


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Subject: RE: French Wine Guide
From: wildlone
Date: 20 Mar 02 - 03:32 PM

I have been to France a few times and I have found that the sneaky French buggers keep all the best wine over there.****BG****
The best wine I have had was a Red that was local to Moulins {the one on the Allier}
It was one of the best re-enactments I have been to.
BTW the Pastis 51 is not bad either
dave


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Subject: RE: French Wine Guide
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 20 Mar 02 - 06:23 PM

You are right about Grant's guitar playing, Kitty, he is a monster picker. His "Dallas Rag" is the best I have ever heard anywhere, anytime, by anybody. Do you know that song he does about the Middle East ? Really funny.

He sure has come a long way from the Esther Rantzen show. I am looking forward to seeing him again when I return to Britain, he usually plays Glenfarg Folk Club each year.

Murray


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Subject: RE: French Wine Guide
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 21 Mar 02 - 04:56 PM

Murray

If it's Grant's song about arbitrarily drawn lines, yes I have, and it's brilliantly funny though it requires a sense of irony and subtlety that not everyone might appreciate.

What I really like about Grant, having seen him at festivals including Stanford in the Vale and Saffron Walden, is that he performs excellently at his booked spots and then goes off to the bar to join in the informal sessions and have a really good time. This might be viewed as thread drift, except that the French viticultural and other influence in Lebanon might be vaguely pertinent...

Kitty


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Subject: RE: French Wine Guide
From: Mr Red
Date: 22 Mar 02 - 03:25 PM

Give the dog a Beune!


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Subject: RE: French Wine Guide
From: pavane
Date: 22 Mar 02 - 06:08 PM

On the Moselle, they have mini chair lifts just to get up and down the vinvards. It really is that steep.

Of course, in Luxembourg, they try and make French wine from German grapes. Maybe that's why we don't hear much about it!

The New World stuff always seems too bland. European wine has much more variety and (to me) depth.


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Subject: RE: French Wine Guide
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Mar 02 - 08:16 AM

Interesting site.


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Subject: RE: French Wine Guide
From: Peg
Date: 23 Mar 02 - 10:58 AM

I really like the Alsace region Rieslings and other German-style wines...best of both worlds!


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Subject: RE: French Wine Guide
From: Mudlark
Date: 23 Mar 02 - 08:47 PM

I live in California wine country--for the most part they are irrigated and in consequence have little character, IMO, and are getting rediculously expensive. I'll take a reasonable Italian table wine over much more expensive CA vintages every time. To Joe in the 'pool...I have a friend in Corsica, I'll ask her for recommendations...but this is the country the Fr. and Italians have battled over for ages..the wine MUST be good!


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Subject: RE: French Wine Guide
From: Sorcha
Date: 23 Mar 02 - 09:14 PM

Several years ago I was fortunate enough to share a bottle of the '85 Chateau d'Yquem Sauternes (white Bordeaux). Truly liquid gold. Almost all French sauternes are wonderful, but this is the Best of the Best.

BTW, French Sauternes are NOT the same as California "Sauterne".


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Subject: RE: French Wine Guide
From: CraigS
Date: 08 Oct 02 - 08:21 PM

refresh


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Subject: RE: BS: French Wine Guide
From: Micca
Date: 09 Oct 02 - 09:49 AM

Dem Beaunes, dem beaunes dem dry beaunes!!


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Subject: RE: BS: French Wine Guide
From: NightWing
Date: 09 Oct 02 - 02:52 PM

Did anyone ever come up with ABC for this tune?

BB,

NightWing


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