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Subject: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 29 Mar 02 - 02:43 PM For those of you who are registered with Yahoo, be aware that Yahoo has on its own, without notice to anyone, changed your Account Information as to marketing preferences, making all the NOs into YESes, thus opening the way to floods of spam. If you don't desire this (and I expect you don't) go to your MY GROUPS Accounting Information and change the YESes back to NOs. Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Alice Date: 29 Mar 02 - 02:57 PM Thanks, Dave. I just checked, and sure enough, all the NOs I had selected for email marketing AND telephone AND street address had been switched to yes. Do you know the date when Yahoo did this?
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: irishajo Date: 29 Mar 02 - 03:12 PM I found the marketing preferences through my email account...not through my groups. I switched them all to No. I hope I'm not missing something. Yahoo has been doing all sorts of stuff lately to try to make money. One club I founded using Yahoo two years ago went through a major format change, and now the place is plastered with ads. |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Wesley S Date: 29 Mar 02 - 04:54 PM Thanks Dave - checked and changed. |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: artbrooks Date: 29 Mar 02 - 05:55 PM Thanks also...changed them all back. BTW, this pertains to everyone who ONLY uses Yahoo Messenger. |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Alice Date: 29 Mar 02 - 06:29 PM I don't use Yahoo Messenger, but I do have membership in some Yahoo discussion groups. My preferences had been changed by Yahoo to yes instead of no. Alice |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: artbrooks Date: 29 Mar 02 - 06:43 PM Sorry, Alice...I should have said "this ALSO pertains to those who only use Yahoo Messenger". |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Bill D Date: 29 Mar 02 - 06:51 PM *grump*....I had a mailbox at Yahoo, and just heard that they were going to charge for POP3 access....and yes, my preferences had also been changed to 'yes'--totally unbelievable! I have since gotten a different web mail address at MyRealBox.com which 'seems' to be a sane place with none of the crap of Yahoo & Hotmail...we shall see... |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 29 Mar 02 - 07:01 PM Isn't that illegal on their part? Surely there is some litigious soul out there who's going to go after Yahoo for breach of various regulations which probably exist. |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Bill D Date: 29 Mar 02 - 08:12 PM if this works, you can read a partial explanation |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Bill D Date: 29 Mar 02 - 08:14 PM even better..the source from a Yahoo site |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Bill D Date: 29 Mar 02 - 08:26 PM a quote from a Usenet posting by an annoyed user: "Yahoo will now be requiring users - even those who have previously opted out of mailings from the company, to go and re-edit their preferences because the default option on a plethora of new e-mail categories is "to get spammed". So if you signed up for an account three years ago, said "don't e-mail me" and promptly forgot about the account, prepare for an onslaught of e-mail that you may not easily be able to get rid of if you don't remember the account particulars." fortunately, I have no earlier Yahoo accounts to try to remember...I pity those who have several. |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: khandu Date: 29 Mar 02 - 08:50 PM Presumptive bastards! khandu |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: reggie miles Date: 29 Mar 02 - 09:12 PM That puts a burr in my britches! Now that's probably where I've been gettin' all that spam from. GRRRRRR! |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Escamillo Date: 29 Mar 02 - 09:33 PM I went to ACCOUNT INFO and entered an endless loop of dialogs "Enter your password again.. for security reasons and yak yak ..", when I entered an invalid password, it was rejected, and when I entered my valid password, the loop started again. Finally I went to PRIVACY POLICY, clicked on Marketing Preferences, and found the list of YES, changed to NOs, clicked on SAVE CHANGES, and (in theory) I am protected again. Let's see what happens. I suspect that our personal data have already been sold to others, and the spam will continue. Warning: Yahoo Groups always plant a SPY PROGRAM in your disk. It is the DOUBLECLICK which generally appears in \windows\cookies and/or \windows\Temporary Internet Files. You can get rid of it just deleting it or running the excellent anti-spy program AD-AWARE 4.55 from www.lavasoft.org If it was not because there is a group that's interesting to me, I would have left Yahoo, definitely. Un abrazo - Andrés in Buenos Aires (Don't trust in banks - use your mattress)
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Date: 29 Mar 02 - 09:40 PM American Airlines has one I can't X out. All I can do is put it in the background until I am ready to shut down. Some that pop up through Amazon also cause trouble. I boycott Amazon now, and wouldn't fly on AA. |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Escamillo Date: 29 Mar 02 - 10:05 PM Dicho, try setting more restrictions in your browser (if you use Microsoft I.E.): go to Tools, Internet Options, Security, and try deactivating ActiveX and Java programs. I don't know exactly which of the many options will stop the advertisers on-line, but you may try more or less restrictions until the problem disappears. Probably then you will not see some cartoons and visual effects, but who cares ? Un abrazo - Andrés |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Bill D Date: 29 Mar 02 - 10:11 PM I have a firewall program, and am using the Opera browser more & more....(as well as AdAware)...you can cut down on the intrusions a lot with a little care. |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: michaelr Date: 30 Mar 02 - 01:26 AM Thank you, Uncle, for the heads-up. I guess it would be a good idea for Yahoo users to check their settings periodically. Bill D - I like Opera and use it as my main browser, but I can't see my own website in it! (Have to talk to my webmeister...) Michael |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Bonnie Shaljean Date: 30 Mar 02 - 07:50 AM I checked two different options/preference pages for my account, each of which I thought was the right place to go to fix this, but neither one was, though I didn't realise it - so I thought I was set and I wasn't. It was only a notice from the moderator of one of my groups that gave me the correct link, and I'll quote her here in case anyone else made the same mistake I did. The options page you need - which can be elusive to even FIND - has a long list of individual prompts and as everyone has already said, you need to change each one to No manually. One blanket No (which is what I'd always had before and was checking) won't do it. Here's what the moderator says:
"They have added a new "permission area" in the Account Information as part of your Yahoo membership. Everyone should make sure that they change these settings so Yahoo does NOT have permission to send this junk to us.
To get to your yahoo settings, go to: http://subscribe.yahoo.com/showaccount If you aren't signed in, it'll take you to a sign-in area. [I didn't have to sign in, it took me right to my own page - BS] Once you are signed in, it'll take you to the "Marketing Preferences". Make sure these are all set to No and saved that way!!! DON'T give Yahoo permission to hit you with more spam. We all get enough!!" |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Bonnie Shaljean Date: 30 Mar 02 - 07:58 AM PS: My father in California, who does not belong to any chat forums or newsgroups, recently got 900 spams in one post. Is this a record? |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: SINSULL Date: 30 Mar 02 - 07:18 PM Thanks, UncleO. You just solved a mystery. A friend sends me occasional emails via YAHOO. Today's came with three more. Each had a note from my friend confirming that he sent it and mentions that I will be pleased at what i find. Please note: he is a recovering drug addict and frequently sends little anecdotes and poems to brighten my day. Each of these was a "clickie" to install YAHOO Instant Messenger on my system. I will have to let him know the problem. |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 31 Mar 02 - 06:42 PM Well, I've done it. Sneaky bastards. Once again - is it legal for people to do this kind of thing? I'm thinking of all the other times over the years I've filled in forms online and made up a point of ticking the option not to have them pass my information on to anyone else, or use it to spam me. I'd never have kniwn about this one without this thread, but how about all the other ones, if there is no sanction against this kind of sharp practice.
I know thaat if I were to do it myself, with information that had been passed to me without permission to share it generally, I'd be for the high jump under the UK Data Protection Act.
Can these big guys get away with what is a form of theft?
Is there anything to stop Yahoo readjusting all my ticks next week once again? |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Blackcatter Date: 31 Mar 02 - 10:06 PM It's got to be illegal - unless there's some small print that says Yahoo can ignore your requests. Freakin bastards - Remember years ago when Yahoo was cool? Not they've added occasional pop-up screens and last week while I was checking mail in a Yahoo Groups page, I had to go through an extra ad page that Yahoo said was "supporting" my free group. I accept that ads support my free use of Yahoo, but it's really a shame that Yahoo has turned so fucking greedy. It's a shame those responsible for these new policies didn't have offices in the WTC. Pax yall |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: hesperis Date: 01 Apr 02 - 02:14 AM Hmmm, one of my accounts, the one I used msot often, doesn't show anything to click or not on going to http://subscribe.yahoo.com/showaccount Maybe it's because that one is a yahoo.ca account? Hmmm... One had a whole bunch of stuff I needed to say "no" to. And I can't remember the password on the third one... sigh. |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: JohnInKansas Date: 01 Apr 02 - 08:40 PM A recent change in Federal (US) Banking Regulations allows banks to own other businesses. They can now offer mortgages, investments, etc. The "new" businesses permit exchange of account information; and the new regulations permit them to assume that you "agree" to let them do so, unless you specifically "opt out." The banks are required to notify each individual account holder of their "privacy policy" and of how to "opt out," but are permitted to assume you don't mind until you contact them. I'd guess that Yahoo just figured "if they can do it, we can do it." Or maybe they've got so much money they think they're in the banking business? Words like "slimy bastards" and "weasel" come to mind, but.... John |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: GUEST Date: 02 Apr 02 - 07:43 PM is this like the e-bay warning |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: GUEST Date: 08 Apr 02 - 10:21 AM They are still doing it. |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Escamillo Date: 08 Apr 02 - 01:20 PM Let's opt out of Yahoo. And of all abusers of every kind. If we don't, they will become worse, and new abusers will arise. Un abrazo - Andrés (who opted out of BANKS, for good reasons) |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: GUEST,A. Guest Date: 08 Apr 02 - 04:57 PM I have an AOL account and as a joke I used one of the 7 ids for my spouse. I put in his first & last names (not a common last name) as one of my email addresses. He had never used this email or even been on the computer, yet when I checked that email address the other day, he had 27 messages - viagra, credit card debt, assorted porno, etc. Where are they getting his email address? He doesn't even know how to turn on the computer. I can only assume that AOL has something to do with it. By the way, the only time I had spam on my hotmail account was when I was listed on a Yahoo group for 6 hours! When my name was taken off the Yahoo group, no spam! |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: DonD Date: 08 Apr 02 - 05:24 PM Are you familiar with the song lyric that praises whisky as givibng better consolation than "bold indignation"? I'm amazed at the amount of righteous indignation from a group of people who must have observed that anyone and everyone - Yahoo, banks, whatever - are trying to get rich at our expense, by fair means or foul. Why is it such a surprise? Right after getting the heads-up here, I got an URGENT E-mail from Yahoo telling me about the new policy and providing a link right to the list of preferences which I easily and quickly changed back. Just because you get a lot of spam doesn't mean that you can so easily pin it on them or any other particular culprit; on the other hand, there's no reason to doubt that they're among those to blame. I'm glad I recently found Mudcat - a rare assembly of folks who are not out to screw each other and the rest of the world. A rare breed! |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 08 Apr 02 - 06:33 PM Since I heard about this outrage and started this thread, I've spent A LOT of time at Yahoo, trying to change the preferences they have set on me. No luck. They don't seem to want to recognize me under any name(s) I would ever have used to sign on. Actually, some of the names that don't recognize, and others they tell me I'm using the wrong password, so I guess they have those names. I might sit back and say, "Okay, I guess I never signed on to Yahoo", but I know I did. In any case, I never (or at least VERY seldom) used to get spam, but I'm getting a lot of it now, since they did this thing, and most of it of a type completely inconsistent with any site I would ever have visited. Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Gareth Date: 08 Apr 02 - 06:56 PM It is my practice to clean out my Cookies etc every couple of days. Now I don't use Yahoo, but for the last few week I've found "doubleclick" turning up in my list, and this week I found a branded Yahoo Cookie turning up ! Mmmm ! I wonder ??? Any thoughts ???? And is there a way of feeding them 'Monkey' info ??? Gareth - in sabotarge mood If need be PM me |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Bullfrog Jones Date: 08 Apr 02 - 07:17 PM Thanks for the tip -- I was wondering why I was suddenly getting so much crap.Incidentally when you follow Bonnie's link and tell them that you don't want any more spam you get hit with this warning: You have indicated that you do not wish to receive special offers and discounts from merchants. If you unsubscribe now, you will not be able to forward your Yahoo! Mail to another address, nor will you be able to use another email program (such as Eudora, Outlook or Netscape Mail) to download your Yahoo! messages using POP. How 'bout that for black(e-)mail! |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Escamillo Date: 09 Apr 02 - 02:12 AM Gareth, I would not recommend anybody to foul up those nasty programs used by Yahoo and others. They know how to make a mess in your disk and make you receive spam from Mars. Regarding Doubleclick, see my comment copied from an earlier post: -------- Warning: Yahoo Groups always plants a SPY PROGRAM in your disk. It is the DOUBLECLICK which generally appears in \windows\cookies and/or \windows\Temporary Internet Files. You can get rid of it just by deleting it or running the excellent anti-spy program AD-AWARE 4.55 from www.lavasoft.org ----------- I would also recommend Zone Alarm, from www.zonelabs.com. This programs tackles any spy program trying to use your Internet connection for its own purposes (informing your activity to its headquarters). It simply asks you "will you allow xxxxxx.exe to access the Internet??) and then you realize that you have been infected. Thanks to Zone Alarm I got rid of several spyware, among them SaveNow , RadLight, and Comet Cursor. Free and fully functional versions of these programs can be downloaded from their Websites. And until now, they have not carried more SPAM by themselves. Un abrazo - Andrés (who would certainly trust in a Mudcat Bank)
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 09 Apr 02 - 11:41 AM First, Does anyone know of a spyware which would yield "ye" with a dot over the E? Norton has frequently lately notified me that "ye" (dot over E) is attempting to access the net. I have not authorized it to do so, but wonder what it is and what to do about it. Second, how and where does one check and possibly delete cookies? Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 09 Apr 02 - 11:48 AM Bullfrog Jones quoted a Yahoo message: You have indicated that you do not wish to receive special offers and discounts from merchants. If you unsubscribe now, you will not be able to forward your Yahoo! Mail to another address, nor will you be able to use another email program (such as Eudora, Outlook or Netscape Mail) to download your Yahoo! messages using POP. This may be an artful fooler. "Do not wish to receive" and "unsubscribe" do not NECESSARILY mean the same thing. I shouldn't think they do. If they do not in this case, the writer has written it that way in the hope you will think that refusing to receive spam automatically causes you to unsubscribe from Yahoo. Frankly, even if they are the same I would go ahead and unsubscribe from Yahoo under those circumstances. Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Escamillo Date: 09 Apr 02 - 02:42 PM Dave, I don't know about a "ye" program, but sure it has been named by its authors in a form that is difficult to spell and search for. You could find it by doing a search for y*.* and visually check a very long list of names. Possibly Ad-Aware will detect it as spyware. In folder c:\windows\Temporary Internet Files and also in c:\windows\cookies you will find all the cookies planted in your system by Websites you visit. All of them can be deleted, but it is no guarantee that you don't have a spyware somewhere else. Cookies can be disabled by setting I.Explorer Tools/Internet Options/Privacy/Advanced Options, but again, cookies could be or could not be the gate to spyware. In particular, if you delete Mudcat's cookie you'll have to reset it when you enter Mudcat. Un abrazo - Andrés |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Gareth Date: 09 Apr 02 - 03:58 PM Thanks Escamillom I do use both Ad-Aware, and Zone Alarm. Ad-Aware pointed out that double click is a spy (BTW is some Yahoo programmer making the 007 Conection ?) I am more concerned with how the b******d got there ! I zapped my cookie folders last night. The only sites I have hit since are Freeserve (UK) and ragtime. So how come its back ?????.( Just checked with Explorer) Any thoughts ?? Gareth |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Gareth Date: 09 Apr 02 - 06:38 PM Time Lapse since my last post. That "&()#@|<>@+ double clicks was back - HOW !!!!!! Gareth - about to zap my cookies again. |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: GUEST Date: 16 Apr 02 - 04:46 AM I have a lonely friend. I can't keep her occupied enough and she demands too much time.
SPAM appears to be a good way to get her connected with the world. Thanks for the suggestions. |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Escamillo Date: 16 Apr 02 - 05:30 AM In my particular experience, DoubleClick kept appearing each time I entered Yahoo Groups. Now I am subscribed to the group by e-mail, don't enter their Website, and DoubleClick is gone. But, the spy could be coming from another Website. You will have to carefully check for the spy after you leave each website, until the monster's nest is found. Un abrazo - Andrés (when does Mudcat Bank start operations?) |
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Subject: RE: Yahoo Spam Alert From: Nigel Parsons Date: 16 Apr 02 - 06:18 AM Part of the gist of this, as I understand it McGofH said "Once again - is it legal for people to do this kind of thing? I'm thinking of all the other times over the years I've filled in forms online and made up a point of ticking the option not to have them pass my information on to anyone else, or use it to spam me. " Yahoo will probably hide behind the fact that they are not passing your details to anyone else. The are passing the business's details to you! (subtle, slimy, difference!) Presumably they are paid to pass on the spam to a given number of consumers, and paid for this irrespective of the fact that one consumer may have a dozen addresses.
In the U.K. we have "opt-out" systems which will exclude us from the bulk of Snail mail advertising, and a similar system to get off 'Telesales' lists, but the very freedom which allows (for a time) the operation of the likes of Napster makes regulation of the net very difficult. |
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