Subject: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Jock Morris Date: 30 Mar 02 - 01:12 PM It has just been announced that HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother has died peacefully in her sleep. Whether you love or hate the royal family, most people in the UK seem to have liked the old girl. May she rest in peace. Scott |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: ciarili Date: 30 Mar 02 - 01:18 PM They'll miss her, and so will her delightful little corgies.... |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: gnu Date: 30 Mar 02 - 01:21 PM A sad day indeed. RIP. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: GUEST,Princess Di fan Date: 30 Mar 02 - 01:27 PM A sad day? No, a happy one. You may have thought she was a cute old lady, but she was vicious and responsible for turning Princess Diana's life into a nightmare. May she rot in pieces. ding dong the witch is dead |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 30 Mar 02 - 01:33 PM My sincerest codolances to the entire U.K.
She always looks so wonderful each Easter; had she been ill? |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Genie Date: 30 Mar 02 - 01:54 PM Kinda sad--she was the best thing about the Royal Family, I think--but 101 (or was it 102?) years is a nice long run, and I don't think anyone expected her to stick around a lot longer. [Didn't she get really sick right before her last birthday? I doubt that the quality of her life would have kept up for many more years.] Genie |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 30 Mar 02 - 01:59 PM From the Financial Times - London
(Reuters) - March 30 2002 18:30 LONDON (Reuters) - The Queen Mother, the 101-year-old mother of Britain's Queen Elizabeth, died in her sleep on Saturday, Buckingham Palace said.
The Queen Mother, the widow of King George VI and a rock of support behind her eldest daughter Queen Elizabeth, 75, died after a period of increasing frailty.
Buckingham Palace said: "The Queen, with the greatest sadness, has asked for the following announcement to be made immediately.
"Her beloved mother, Queen Elizabeth, died peacefully in her sleep this afternoon, at Royal Lodge, Windsor."
Her death adds personal tragedy to a succession of domestic traumas suffered by the royal family in recent years, most recently the death on February 9 of her younger daughter, Princess Margaret at the age of 71.
The "Queen Mum," as she was affectionately known, was the queen consort during World War Two and was the devoted companion of King George, who unexpectedly became king after his brother Edward VIII abdicated in 1936 to marry American divorcee Wallis Simpson.
Nazi Germany's Adolf Hitler branded her the most dangerous woman in Europe for her morale boosting contribution to the British war effort after she refused to leave London to escape the wartime attacks called the "Blitz" and visited areas of the city damaged by bombing.
To younger generations of Britons she was the nation's favorite grandmother, a smiling presence who was still carrying out public duties into her centenary.
Left a widow in 1952, she became the matriarch of the royal House of Windsor and enjoyed a position as one of the best-loved members of the royal family, her popularity undimmed by the scandals of recent years affecting other royals.
A Scottish aristocrat, she married the then Duke of York in 1923. In her service to the crown as duchess, queen consort and dowager, she is credited with bringing the old imperial monarchy closer to the people.
Sincerly,
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Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: katlaughing Date: 30 Mar 02 - 02:01 PM Just watching live coverage on BBC America. Sad, indeed. I always enjoyed seeing her and hearing what she had to say. She always looked so cheerful and indomitable at the same time. I've just heard them say she was not just the "sweet, little old lady" she looked, that she was "steel in a velvet glove." With all she lived throu and what was expected of her, I'd say it served her well to be that way. RIP, Queen Mum, kat |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Don Firth Date: 30 Mar 02 - 02:32 PM The Queen Mum was a Grand Lady. Strength and dignity all the way. Don Firth |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: NELLIE Date: 30 Mar 02 - 02:49 PM Thank you for all your nice comments about our beloved Queen Mother. Jenny |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: katlaughing Date: 30 Mar 02 - 02:51 PM Thanks, Gargoyle, for posting that piece. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Giac Date: 30 Mar 02 - 03:10 PM Recall seeing her in the newsreels during WWII, visiting hospitals, inspecting bomb damage and visiting troops. From my small-child perspective, she was quite the elegant lady, always appearing composed and "in charge epitomizing "royalty" to me. I liked her hats. Mary |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: PeteBoom Date: 30 Mar 02 - 03:12 PM My old Pipe Major is quite saddened - just spoke with him. She was Colonel-in-Chief of his old regiment. People can't help when, where or into what family they are born - or what happens to them after they marry into a family. She had many more good qualities that bad ones. She married for love, then played the hand life dealt her quite well, I thought. Much sympathy. Pete |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Tam the bam fraeSaltcoatsScotland Date: 30 Mar 02 - 03:40 PM It's a sad day for us all, she really was a grand old lady.
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Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Tam the bam fraeSaltcoatsScotland Date: 30 Mar 02 - 03:43 PM To the princess Di fan, you are one sick bastard, I hope you rot in hell, and that's all I have say on the matter. P.S. I'm not a royalist, I'm a republican.
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Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Tweed Date: 30 Mar 02 - 04:07 PM She was very good to see when she went out with the people and exuded great charm and dignity in an age where those traits are seldom cultivated. I'll miss just knowing that such a person walks the same earth as we do. Much sympathy and condolences go out to the English cousins. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: GUEST,God Save Us From the Queen Mum Worshippers Date: 30 Mar 02 - 04:09 PM Thankfully, when there is a death in the English royal family, those of us Mudcatters who are nauseated by the royal worshipping always have uk.music.folk to turn to. No chance of the them getting much of an audience there, thank god. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Tweed Date: 30 Mar 02 - 04:19 PM ...as I was just sayin', "She exuded great charm and dignity in an age where those traits are seldom cultivated".... |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Irish sergeant Date: 30 Mar 02 - 04:20 PM Rest in Peace Queen Mother. May you be followed by fair breeze on this your next journey. Condolences to our Cousins in the U.K. on the lost of a grand old lady. Neil |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: GUEST Date: 30 Mar 02 - 04:21 PM She was a member of the family of the most brutal, bloodthirsty imperial monarchy in the history of the world. Nothing too charmed or dignified about that, now is there? |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Harry Basnett Date: 30 Mar 02 - 04:43 PM Don't you just love those lovely, cuddly, anonymous "Guests"? |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Barry T Date: 30 Mar 02 - 04:47 PM I agree, Harryoldham! 'Kind of makes you wish for a search and replace key... for people! |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Lanfranc Date: 30 Mar 02 - 05:00 PM I admit it, I stood in the Aldwych and cheered her on her 90th birthday parade. She once passed within a few feet of me at an official reception, and the main thing I remember is how tiny she was. She did well to last to 102 - I wonder if QE2 will last as long? She was a character, and will be sorely missed. She had a sense of humour, a liking for the horses, a penchant for the odd G & T and a sense of duty and a dignity that none of the wives of her grandsons could ever come close to. "They don't make 'em like that any more!" Alan
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Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: catspaw49 Date: 30 Mar 02 - 05:08 PM This has been a bad week hasn't it? The lady just exuded class and while her attitude always seemed equally open and friendly, you could see the iron will.....as kat I think said, "iron Fist, Velvet Glove." It's not a type we see much anymore and that's sad.........A Grand Lady in the best sense of the words. Spaw |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: howler Date: 30 Mar 02 - 05:20 PM Why is it necessary to bad mouth such a person as the Queen Mother? I'm no Royalist but hey in my life time 40 odd years, she never shot anyone, she never bad mouthed anyone in public; She was just an old lady - so please, those of you who have spit your vitriol, please save the rest for someone who really deserves it; like the terrorists and bad people of the world. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Manitas_at_home Date: 30 Mar 02 - 06:23 PM Let's face it, lot's of people have already said they will miss the Queen Mum - thousands of them on tv and radio alone. Who will miss you Lady Di fan and GUEST peeping out from underneath your rock? |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: GUEST,jaze Date: 30 Mar 02 - 06:24 PM Deep condolences to our friends in the UK for the loss of a truly brave and great lady. You don't earn the love and admiration of a kingdom without the substance to fill it. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: GUEST Date: 30 Mar 02 - 06:29 PM Well, apparently the Queen Mum won't be missed by the British who frequent uk.music.folk. Not even a mention of her passing there. Wonder why all those British cousins aren't busy fawning all over themselves and one another with phony grief, like all of you here are, hmmmm?
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Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: GUEST,Peter from Essex Date: 30 Mar 02 - 06:49 PM Mybe people just post "on topic". Try UK.PEOPLE.DEAD |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Gareth Date: 30 Mar 02 - 06:56 PM I have just returned from the Pub ( NB location South Wales). Death of HRH Queeen Elizabeth - THe Queen Mother, not a major talking point. Sympathy to the familly, as you would expect. Gareth |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Blackcatter Date: 30 Mar 02 - 06:57 PM We always are supposed to speak kindly of the dead, but frankly, to me she was just part of the family that is merrily screwing the British public. But that's my opinion and if (in my opinion) the British public thinks that they are "getting their money worth" so be it. To me the unfortunate situation is that her passing is unlikely to force any question of the royalty like will happen when her daughter passes. pax yall |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Jon Freeman Date: 30 Mar 02 - 07:04 PM Well, whatever, I don't know the majority British view (although I suspect it would be pro) but please remember that there are those like me over here who will not be mourning her. I tend to view her as a scheming old battleaxe who hid behind the velvet glove - a contrast from the view posted by kat above. She had a good innings and died peacefully and I hope she rests in peace but that is as far as it goes with me... Except to say a loss is a loss to any family... Jon |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 30 Mar 02 - 07:23 PM "She was just part of the family that is merrily screwing the British public" - surely she wasn't a Murdoch...or a Blair for that matter?
Get rid of the Royals and it would make about as much of a contribution to making England a better place to live in as it would if the Royals got rid of the Corgis. Whether you like them or loathe them, they are just decoration. And the Queen Mother had some decorative style.
I might not cross the road to save the Royals - but I wouldn't snap my fingers to get rid of them.
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Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Ian Darby Date: 30 Mar 02 - 07:48 PM I just hope Elton John isn't beavering away at his piano as we speak. My Mam's most enduring memory of the Queen Mother was seeing a Pathe Newsreel at the pictures. She was stood holding a shotgun, next to a pile of dead Tigers. It had apparently been a great days shooting. Mam left the cinema in tears. Regarding the Princess Di 'fan,' if Di been living in a two bed maisonette in Manchester she would probably have been branded an unfit mother. Having said all this, a family just lost someone they probably loved and I know what that feels like. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: GUEST Date: 30 Mar 02 - 08:32 PM According to NIH, in the year 2000, on average 6,588 people died per day in the United States. I could not find any global statistics, but probably multiplying by 20 would yield a conservative estimate of 131,760 people who die throughout the world per day. To be as righteous as possible, were we to spend a full 24 hours per day mourning the loss of each of these human beings, we would have to spend less than seven tenths of a second per person. Just now I spent a silent seven tenths of a second mourning the loss of Queen Elizabeth, and, frankly, now that my grief period is over I am starting to feel better. I am almost ready to move on with my life again. It will be difficult, but I believe that given roughly another quarter-second of meditation over the next three minutes, I will have completely forgotten that she ever existed. How about we save our mental mourning energy for the 131,759 other people who died today; odds are the vast majority of them contributed to the world more than this ancient pampered woman ever did. Respectfully, A.N. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 30 Mar 02 - 09:28 PM Well, I was wondering wich one of them was dead! I passed Brittish Aerospace (Brough), a few hours ago and noticed the flags were at half mast.It seems to me that the Americans will miss her more than us in the UK, as far as I am concerned you are welcome to the rest of them! |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: John Gray Date: 30 Mar 02 - 09:58 PM Glad she's gone, now there will be enough gin left to go around. JG/FME. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: GUEST Date: 30 Mar 02 - 10:06 PM Respect for the dead. Of course. Living in Ireland, I heard the following joke within 24 hours of Diana's death: What do the letters in Diana's name stand for? Died in a nasty accident. Please feel free to respect the dead for the respectable 7/10s of a second, and give us a good Queen Mum joke, will ye? |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Haruo Date: 30 Mar 02 - 10:25 PM Anybody got a folk song about the Queen Mum handy so we can be "on-topic" and go post it at uk.music.folk? Liland |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: GUEST Date: 30 Mar 02 - 11:56 PM After reading through these posts i can see where I've been wrong of course. Sorry al. GOD BLESS THE QUEEN MOTHER. There I've said it. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Mudlark Date: 31 Mar 02 - 01:04 AM I don't know the ins and outs of the royal family, living as I do across the pond, but anybody who loved corgis cant be all bad....RIP, Queen Mum.... |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Linda Kelly Date: 31 Mar 02 - 05:38 AM I can't stand Corgis and am obviously the daughter of Satan! I believe that none of the Royal Family's dogs are housetrained which is probably why they keep moving from palace to palace to allow Chem-Dry in!!!! |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 31 Mar 02 - 05:48 AM I like, Everybodys got to learn sometimes by The Corgis. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Snuffy Date: 31 Mar 02 - 06:43 AM She was HM, not HRH |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Fiolar Date: 31 Mar 02 - 07:10 AM So an era has finally closed. I wonder how the royal family will cope now. According to reports a third of the population of Britain will genuinely mourn her, a third will feel a passing sadness and a third will think "so what" and wish that the televsion didn't spend so much time covering the event. The above postings show a mixed reaction. But to put things in perspective, she never had to dirty her hands to support the family and was raised and lived in the lap of luxury all her life. She was capable of carrying a grudge for practically ever and never forgave "Crawfie" for publishing her book on the princesses. If the report that Princess Diana described her as "the chief leper in the leper colony" is true then the picture of a sweet old lady is very far from the truth. Still she has passed on now and is a part of history. To describe the event as "sad" is a slight exageration. Now if she had been a young working class mother with two or three young children dependent on her - that would be sad. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Jon Freeman Date: 31 Mar 02 - 07:22 AM Now we have the HM/HRH bit cleared up, perhaps someone tell me: Is she now The Late HM Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother or HM The Late Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother or HM Queen Elizabeth The Late Queen Mother...? Jon |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: harvey andrews Date: 31 Mar 02 - 07:48 AM Mr McGath says: "Get rid of the Royals and it would make about as much of a contribution to making England a better place to live in as it would if the Royals got rid of the Corgis"
I beg to differ. They are the summit of the class structure that holds this country back.One per cent of the population own 80% of the land, and I bet the Queen Mother knew every one of them.. Only 7% of Britain is available for us "Commoners" to live in. The Royal Family is the supporter of all this and is its reality made mainifest. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Linda Kelly Date: 31 Mar 02 - 07:51 AM well said Harvey |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 31 Mar 02 - 08:14 AM mmhh, good question Jon. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: HRH Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother From: Mrs.Duck Date: 31 Mar 02 - 08:53 AM I've heard previous monarchs referred to as HM the late King whatever but in view of the fact that there is not likely to be another Queen mother in our life time I suspect the term 'late' will be dispensed with and she will still just be known as the Queen mother. Must say I'm glad I didn't buy shares in Gordon's!!!! |
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