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Lyr Req: Ivor the Driver (Dave Goulder)

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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ivor the Driver
From: GUEST,herrhare@hotmail.com
Date: 22 Jun 02 - 07:37 PM

regarding the origin of dave goulder - described as a scotsman in this thread - I believe he is from nottinghamshire england - please correct me if you know otherwise

according to sleeve notes at fifteen he was working on the railway at kirkby in ashfield but when the album was issued it stated he was 'now' living in north-west scotland

the songs on his album are split between the midland railway and scottish railways


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ivor the Driver
From: Jon Bartlett
Date: 22 Jun 02 - 07:16 PM

Thanks for the info, cats: I posted this thread twice (the nice thing about Alzheimer's - you can hide your own easter eggs) and forgot. The words (which I was after) turned up on the other thread. I sing the song, minus the last verse or two, ending with "... out in one leap". Anent Dave Goulder: did he used to be a Sussex lad, and play a big 12-string? And did he make "The January Man"?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ivor the Driver
From: GUEST,herrhare@hotmail.com
Date: 22 Jun 02 - 06:32 PM

I have the dave goulder version on record "requiem for steam" - Big Ben records BB 00.04 recorded june '71

dave goulder was a railway fireman (stoker) and there is a great selection of railway folksongs, many in lighthearted vein.

also included is "pinwherry dip", a song about a runaway train in an isolated area that runs downhill and up the other side of the valley where it reverses again, going backwards and forwards every ten minutes through pinwherry station where an inspector is trying to get a quiet night's sleep.

the sleeve notes have a superb entry in the credits - as well as "martin carthy, guitar, chorus" there is "maddy prior, spoons"!!!!

richard n


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ivor the Driver
From: Wolfgang
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 03:32 AM

Same story, but told from the point of view of the chap who's already in the grave:

A Grave Situation

Even more funny for me (but tastes...)

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ivor the Driver
From: Jon Bartlett
Date: 22 Apr 02 - 02:25 AM

Thanks to all for this!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ivor the Driver
From: kendall
Date: 21 Apr 02 - 08:40 PM

Sorry about that header, it's been a very long day.

When Gordon and I did this, I sang.. Ivor was sure there was no one about..etc when a voice from the dark said, then Gordon took it with that deep bass voice, "You'll never get out" very effective, and funny.


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Subject: Lyr Add: IVOR THE DRIVER (Dave Goulder)
From: kendall
Date: 21 Apr 02 - 08:35 PM

IVOR THE DRIVER
by Dave Goulder

One night at the church, I was stealing the coal
  Over the ground and under the ground
AND what did I see? well, I'll tell you it whole
  Over and under the ground.

A sleepy old miner was walking alone
  Over the ground, and under the ground
AND he nipped through the graveyard to find his way home
  Over and under the ground.

He was thinking of only the time he could save
  Over the ground and under the ground
When he tumbled into an unoccupied grave
  Over and under the ground.

He picked himself up and he scrambled about
  Over the ground and under the ground
But try as he might he just couldn't get out
  Over and under the ground.

Not being the kind who would whimper and weep
  Over the ground and under the ground
He laid down in a corner and went off to sleep
  Over and under the ground.

The miner was sleeping not caring at all
  Over the ground and under the ground
When Ivor the driver nipped over the wall
  Over and under the ground.

The night it was dark and Ivor was full
  Over the ground and under the ground
When he tripped and he fell in that very same hole
  Over and under the ground. He ranted and raved and he cursed and he swore
  Over the ground and under the ground
And he wakened the miner asleep on the floor
  Over and under the ground.

Now, Ivor was sure there was no one about
  Over the ground and under the ground
When a voice from the dark says "YOU'LL NEVER GET OUT"
  Over and under the ground.

The grave it was dark and exceedingly deep
  Over the ground and under the ground
But Ivor the driver was out in one leap
  Over and under the ground.

The sleepy old miner he scratched and he spat
  Over the ground and under the ground
and he says to himself, "Now, how'd he do that?"
  Over and under the ground.

The miner remembers his night with the dead
  Over the ground and under the ground
But, Ivor the driver is strapped in his bed
  Over and under the ground.

(Last verse by Gordon Bok)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ivor the Driver
From: kendall
Date: 21 Apr 02 - 07:35 PM

Sure, I'll post them. It wasn't clear to me that there was an actual request for the lyrics. My ex used to acuse me of being literal; she would ask,"I wonder what time it is"? and when I didn't answer, she got pissed. To me, it wasn't a question. Ivor to follow...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ivor the Driver
From: Sorcha
Date: 21 Apr 02 - 11:08 AM

Thanks, George. I couldn't find it. Maybe I just wasn't awake enough.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ivor the Driver
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 21 Apr 02 - 11:01 AM

Ivor the Driver


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ivor the Driver
From: Sorcha
Date: 21 Apr 02 - 10:37 AM

Kendall said in another thread that he sings this and I thought he had posted the lyrics there, but he didn't. Perhaps he will? Oh Captain!!!


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Subject: Ivor the Driver
From: Jon Bartlett
Date: 21 Apr 02 - 02:37 AM

Does this ring a bell? He gets drunk, falls down an open grave, whence a voice (a prior drunk) says "You'll never get out". Birmingham, UK c. 1970?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ivor the Driver
From: raredance
Date: 06 Apr 02 - 09:44 PM

Following on Kendall's comment, Bok, Muir & Trickett sang the song in St Paul in October 1979 in a Prairie Home Concert that was later rebroadcast on Minnesota PUblic Radio

rich r


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ivor the Driver
From: kendall
Date: 06 Apr 02 - 04:12 PM

Gordon Bok and I did this in a concert with Dave Goulder in the front row. Yup, we screwed it up.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ivor the Driver
From: Charley Noble
Date: 06 Apr 02 - 02:56 PM

This is one of my favorites for Halloween special events. Nor does a greatjob with it.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ivor the Driver
From: kendall
Date: 06 Apr 02 - 08:00 AM

Yes. I sing this one. Written by Scotsman Dave Goulder based on an old joke. Are you asking for the words?


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Subject: Ivor the Driver
From: GUEST,Jon G. Bartlett
Date: 06 Apr 02 - 05:42 AM

Does this title ring any bells? he fell down an open grave at night, where he met a drunk.

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