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Lyr Req: Kitty Lie Over Close to the Wall

GUEST,Tradmusic 427@cs.com 09 Apr 02 - 12:03 AM
Pene Azul 09 Apr 02 - 12:11 AM
masato sakurai 09 Apr 02 - 12:36 AM
Malcolm Douglas 09 Apr 02 - 09:17 AM
Bob Bolton 09 Apr 02 - 11:47 PM
GUEST,Tradmusic427@cs.com 14 Oct 02 - 10:39 PM
Mr Happy 14 Mar 08 - 11:02 AM
Mr Happy 14 Mar 08 - 11:07 AM
Mr Happy 04 Dec 13 - 08:29 AM
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Subject: Kitty Lie Over Close to the Wall
From: GUEST,Tradmusic 427@cs.com
Date: 09 Apr 02 - 12:03 AM

I'm looking for additional verses for this song, also listed under "What would you do if you married a soldier?"

Any help out there? I've heard a verse that includes the line:

"For you to be drunk and me to be sober" but can't find that verse in the digital tradition lyric database...

Help please.

Doug Huggins "The Rare Ould Times" Irish Trad music in the Rockies


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE FROST IS ALL OVER
From: Pene Azul
Date: 09 Apr 02 - 12:11 AM

From this page, which includes dots.

The Frost Is All Over

1. What would you do if the kettle boiled over?
What would I do? Only fill it again.
And what would you do if the cow ate the clover?
What would I do only set it again.

2. The praties are dug and the frost is all over
Kitty lie over close to the wall.
How would you like to be married to a soldier?
Kitty lie over close to the wall.

3. The praties all boil and the herring's a roasting
Kitty lie over close to the wall.
You to be drunk and me to be sober
Kitty lie over close to the wall.

4. What would you do if you married a soldier
what would you do would you follow his gun?
And what would you do if he drowned in the ocean
what would you do would you marry again?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Kitty Lie Over Close to the Wall
From: masato sakurai
Date: 09 Apr 02 - 12:36 AM

WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU MARRIED A SOLDIER? in the DT. Other sets of lyrics with the "you to be drunk and me to be sober" line are HERE and HERE. For info on "The Frost Is All Over" and several related tunes, CLICK HERE (from The Fiddler's Companion).

~Masato


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Kitty Lie Over Close to the Wall
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 09 Apr 02 - 09:17 AM

The third set of lyrics linked to by Masato was apparently transcribed from a record, and contains a rather comical mis-hearing; the herons are roastin'!  Though The Fiddler's Companion appears at one point to credit Johnny Moynihan with putting the words to the tune, Planxty (unless I have quite forgotten) actually learned the piece from Seamus Ennis, who in turn learned it from Elizabeth Cronin of Macroom in Cork, though he may have altered her text somewhat (my tape of his set is in a box somewhere just now and I can't find it).

This song is Roud number 3051 in Steve Roud's Folk Song Index; the majority of the examples there were noted or recorded from Elizabeth Cronin in the 1940s and 1950s, but it has also been found in tradition elsewhere in Ireland and in the North of England.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Kitty Lie Over Close to the Wall
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 09 Apr 02 - 11:47 PM

G'day Malcolm,

I need to check the details at home ... but this tune is collected in Australia with an "Australianisation" of the title/first line to (What would you do if the) billy boiled over?. I presume this is a simple survival of the original song, with the manufactured 'kettle' being replaced by the improvised 'billy' ... a tin can (originally a 'bully beef' tin) with a wire handle to do duty as a makeshift water container and kettle for a camp fire.

I seem to remember that the chorus was sung, with the 'billy' alteration, but I don't remeber any of the verses being preserved. The collector's information may give an idea of how long back the informant learnt the song/tune.

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Kitty Lie Over Close to the Wall
From: GUEST,Tradmusic427@cs.com
Date: 14 Oct 02 - 10:39 PM

Belated thanks to all...I got what I needed
.

Doug


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Kitty Lie Over Close to the Wall
From: Mr Happy
Date: 14 Mar 08 - 11:02 AM

One further verse:

The herrings are roasting, the frost is all over
Kitty lie over, close to the wall,
How would you like to be married to a soldier
Kitty lie over, close to the wall,


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE FROST IS ALL OVER
From: Mr Happy
Date: 14 Mar 08 - 11:07 AM

I know this song under a different name:



The Frost is all Over.


Oh, what would you do if you married a soldier?
"What would you if he followed his gun?"
And what would you do if he died on the ocean?
"What would you do, would you marry again?"

And what would you do if the kettle boiled over?
"What would I do but to fill it again?"
And what would you do if the cow ate the clover?
"What would I do but to set it again?"

The praties are dug and the frost is all over
Kitty lie over, next to the wall,
The summer is come and we're all in the clover
Kitty lie over, next to the wall.

The herrings are roasting, the frost is all over
Kitty lie over, close to the wall,
How would you like to be married to a soldier?
Kitty lie over, close to the wall,


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Kitty Lie Over Close to the Wall
From: Mr Happy
Date: 04 Dec 13 - 08:29 AM

The frost is all over


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Kitty Lie Over Close to the Wall
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 04 Dec 13 - 01:51 PM

Thanks. Also done by the Chieftains, on youtube as well.


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