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Lyr Req: Kitty Lie Over Close to the Wall |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Kitty Lie Over Close to the Wall From: GUEST,Molly Date: 04 Mar 21 - 05:43 AM A culinary note: My grandfather McGinty born in Birchill Donegal in around 1870 and later emigrated to Glasgow, Scotland, with the family, told my father that they'd boil a pot of praties over the fire and lay the cleaned herrings on top of the 'murphies' for the last few minutes to cook them. 'Roasting' them doesn't seem right. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Kitty Lie Over Close to the Wall From: GUEST,ripov Date: 16 Sep 18 - 08:06 PM I would guess to make room for two in a single bed, she being unmarried. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Kitty Lie Over Close to the Wall From: GUEST,Kate Date: 16 Sep 18 - 08:00 PM My question - looking all over the internet and asking everyone of Irish descent I know... WHY does Kitty have to lie close to the wall? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Kitty Lie Over Close to the Wall From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 04 Dec 13 - 01:51 PM Thanks. Also done by the Chieftains, on youtube as well. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Kitty Lie Over Close to the Wall From: Mr Happy Date: 04 Dec 13 - 08:29 AM The frost is all over |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE FROST IS ALL OVER From: Mr Happy Date: 14 Mar 08 - 11:07 AM I know this song under a different name: The Frost is all Over. Oh, what would you do if you married a soldier? "What would you if he followed his gun?" And what would you do if he died on the ocean? "What would you do, would you marry again?" And what would you do if the kettle boiled over? "What would I do but to fill it again?" And what would you do if the cow ate the clover? "What would I do but to set it again?" The praties are dug and the frost is all over Kitty lie over, next to the wall, The summer is come and we're all in the clover Kitty lie over, next to the wall. The herrings are roasting, the frost is all over Kitty lie over, close to the wall, How would you like to be married to a soldier? Kitty lie over, close to the wall, |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Kitty Lie Over Close to the Wall From: Mr Happy Date: 14 Mar 08 - 11:02 AM One further verse: The herrings are roasting, the frost is all over Kitty lie over, close to the wall, How would you like to be married to a soldier Kitty lie over, close to the wall, |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Kitty Lie Over Close to the Wall From: GUEST,Tradmusic427@cs.com Date: 14 Oct 02 - 10:39 PM Belated thanks to all...I got what I needed . Doug |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Kitty Lie Over Close to the Wall From: Bob Bolton Date: 09 Apr 02 - 11:47 PM G'day Malcolm, I need to check the details at home ... but this tune is collected in Australia with an "Australianisation" of the title/first line to (What would you do if the) billy boiled over?. I presume this is a simple survival of the original song, with the manufactured 'kettle' being replaced by the improvised 'billy' ... a tin can (originally a 'bully beef' tin) with a wire handle to do duty as a makeshift water container and kettle for a camp fire. I seem to remember that the chorus was sung, with the 'billy' alteration, but I don't remeber any of the verses being preserved. The collector's information may give an idea of how long back the informant learnt the song/tune. Regards, Bob Bolton |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Kitty Lie Over Close to the Wall From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 09 Apr 02 - 09:17 AM The third set of lyrics linked to by Masato was apparently transcribed from a record, and contains a rather comical mis-hearing; the herons are roastin'! Though The Fiddler's Companion appears at one point to credit Johnny Moynihan with putting the words to the tune, Planxty (unless I have quite forgotten) actually learned the piece from Seamus Ennis, who in turn learned it from Elizabeth Cronin of Macroom in Cork, though he may have altered her text somewhat (my tape of his set is in a box somewhere just now and I can't find it). This song is Roud number 3051 in Steve Roud's Folk Song Index; the majority of the examples there were noted or recorded from Elizabeth Cronin in the 1940s and 1950s, but it has also been found in tradition elsewhere in Ireland and in the North of England.
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Kitty Lie Over Close to the Wall From: masato sakurai Date: 09 Apr 02 - 12:36 AM WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU MARRIED A SOLDIER? in the DT. Other sets of lyrics with the "you to be drunk and me to be sober" line are HERE and HERE. For info on "The Frost Is All Over" and several related tunes, CLICK HERE (from The Fiddler's Companion). ~Masato
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE FROST IS ALL OVER From: Pene Azul Date: 09 Apr 02 - 12:11 AM From this page, which includes dots. The Frost Is All Over 1. What would you do if the kettle boiled over? What would I do? Only fill it again. And what would you do if the cow ate the clover? What would I do only set it again. 2. The praties are dug and the frost is all over Kitty lie over close to the wall. How would you like to be married to a soldier? Kitty lie over close to the wall. 3. The praties all boil and the herring's a roasting Kitty lie over close to the wall. You to be drunk and me to be sober Kitty lie over close to the wall. 4. What would you do if you married a soldier what would you do would you follow his gun? And what would you do if he drowned in the ocean what would you do would you marry again? |
Subject: Kitty Lie Over Close to the Wall From: GUEST,Tradmusic 427@cs.com Date: 09 Apr 02 - 12:03 AM I'm looking for additional verses for this song, also listed under "What would you do if you married a soldier?" Any help out there? I've heard a verse that includes the line: "For you to be drunk and me to be sober" but can't find that verse in the digital tradition lyric database... Help please. Doug Huggins "The Rare Ould Times" Irish Trad music in the Rockies |
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