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Lyr Req: With My Dog and Gun - Mountain Streams

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DOG AND GUN
WI' MY DOG AND GUN


Related threads:
Lyr Req: Epilog to Dog and Gun / Golden Glove (20)
Lyr Req: Dog and Gun / Golden Glove (6)
Lyr Req: Wi' Me Dog and Gun (2) (closed)


In Mudcat MIDIs:
The Mountain Stream
The Mountain Streams where the Moorcock Crows (tune from "Music and Song from the Boys of the Lough")
Where Moorcocks Crow
Wi' My Dog and Gun


GUEST,karen lucas 11 Apr 02 - 02:50 PM
chordstrangler 11 Apr 02 - 03:06 PM
ciarili 11 Apr 02 - 03:15 PM
GUEST,karen 11 Apr 02 - 03:30 PM
Mad4Mud 11 Apr 02 - 03:36 PM
GUEST,karen 11 Apr 02 - 05:55 PM
ciarili 11 Apr 02 - 06:37 PM
GUEST,karen 11 Apr 02 - 06:56 PM
Malcolm Douglas 11 Apr 02 - 10:02 PM
ciarili 11 Apr 02 - 10:19 PM
Malcolm Douglas 12 Apr 02 - 09:29 AM
GUEST,Phil. 19 Apr 03 - 07:43 AM
Joe Offer 19 Apr 03 - 01:50 PM
MMario 15 May 03 - 02:36 PM
Noreen 15 May 03 - 06:12 PM
Cluin 15 May 03 - 11:21 PM
ciarili 16 May 03 - 08:18 PM
nelagnelag 17 May 04 - 06:58 PM
Sandy Paton 17 May 04 - 07:28 PM
GUEST,Christine Dowling 11 Mar 18 - 09:55 AM
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Subject: with my dog and gun
From: GUEST,karen lucas
Date: 11 Apr 02 - 02:50 PM

Hello all! I am looking for a song that starts out like, 'with my dog and gun through the bloomin heather.....I met a maid, she was tall and slender....Anyone know the title, artist, lyrics, chords? Thanks in advance! kj


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: with my dog and gun
From: chordstrangler
Date: 11 Apr 02 - 03:06 PM

Karen, I think that the song you are looking for is entitled "The Mountain Streams where the Moorcock crows". To the best of my recollection it can be found on one of the "Boys Of the Lough" albums, sung by flute player, Cathal McConnell.


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Subject: ADD: The Mountain Streams
From: ciarili
Date: 11 Apr 02 - 03:15 PM

Here you go!

The Mountain Streams

With my dog and gun through the bloomin' heather
To seek for passtime I took my way
Where I espied a lovely, fair maid
And her charms invited me a while to stay
I said, My dear, you will find that I love you
Tell me your dwelling and your name also
Oh, excuse my name and you'll find my dwelling near
The mountain streams where the moorcocks crow

I said, My darling, if you'll wed a rover
My former raking I will leave aside
Here is my hand and I pledge my honour
and if you prove constant I'll make you my bride
Well, if my parents knew that I loved a rover
Great affliction I would undergo
So I'll stay at home for another season near
The mountain streams where the moorcocks crow

Then farewell, darling, for another season
I hope we'll meet again in yon moorland vale
And when we meet we'll embrace each other
And I'll pay attention to your lovesick tale
It's hand in hand we will join together
And I'll escort you to yon valley low
Where the linnet sings her note so pleasing near
The mountain streams where the moorcocks crow


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: with my dog and gun
From: GUEST,karen
Date: 11 Apr 02 - 03:30 PM

Thanks so much ciarili (& chordstrangler that must be where I heard it first) I been hummin' that tune for awhile now...so now I'll set down and figure out those chords. This is such a great resource..I'm am ever grateful for mudcat!


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: with my dog and gun
From: Mad4Mud
Date: 11 Apr 02 - 03:36 PM

Also Silly Wizard's version here in the Digital Tradition.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: with my dog and gun
From: GUEST,karen
Date: 11 Apr 02 - 05:55 PM

Thanks Mad4Mud t'was this version that I had heard...I was beginning to think maybe she wasn't tall an' slender but rather short and fat, as the other version from ciarili had nothing about her stature...thanks a tousand times! Karen


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: with my dog and gun
From: ciarili
Date: 11 Apr 02 - 06:37 PM

Ah! The version I know I got from Dolores Keane's rendition. It is actually an Irish song, and if you get the chance, listen to her version. It's unparalleled.

ciarili


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: with my dog and gun
From: GUEST,karen
Date: 11 Apr 02 - 06:56 PM

Hello ciarili! Dolores is totally my favorite of all the Irish female vocalists...I've not heard her sing this one do you know what album it's on? a tu yu a tousand tanks! Karen


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: with my dog and gun
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 11 Apr 02 - 10:02 PM

So far as I remember, Dolores Keane recorded the song with De Dannan (first album?). There's some dispute as to whether this one is Irish or Scottish in origin; Irish versions have almost all come from the North, so it could go either way.

The set recorded by Silly Wizard (referred to earlier) apparently came from Andy M.Stewart's family; the DT transcription contains some very obvious mistakes which I pointed out 18 months ago; it has not so far been corrected.

Cathal's set, recorded on the Boys of the Lough album Lochaber No More (1975) came from Paddy and Jimmy Halpin (Co. Fermanagh). The text Ciarili posted seems virtually identical to that sung by Brigid Tunney, and included in her son Paddy's book The Stone Fiddle (1979); if that was Dolores Keane's source, then she omitted a verse:

"If my parents knew that I loved a rover
They would tie me down with strong iron bands
And in a dungeon they would confine me
Where is no comfort of any kind.
Now I'll away and acquaint my parents.
I hope my absence will not cause a blow.
I'm happy here though I may be courted from
The Mountain Streams Where The Moorcocks Grow."


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: with my dog and gun
From: ciarili
Date: 11 Apr 02 - 10:19 PM

Hey, Malcolm, maybe "Now I'll away and acquaint my parents" is really "Now I'll away and quit my parents." They both sound very similar, but the second one makes better sense. However, I don't know if you got them from listening or from print....

Anyway, I had a tape of Dolores from Thistle and Shamrock a million years ago. I have the mp3, but not the album. I'd send it to you but my ISP's been a real pain in the butt and I can't use my Outbreak Express, which I'd need to send an attachment that large. I think you should still be able to get all the De Danann cds, and that song alone is worth the purchase of the album!

ciarili


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: with my dog and gun
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 12 Apr 02 - 09:29 AM

I'm fairly sure that I have it, but I've just moved house and can't find anything. I quoted from Paddy's book, so that's certainly what he thought the words were!


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Subject: RE: Mountain Streams Where the Moorcocks Crow
From: GUEST,Phil.
Date: 19 Apr 03 - 07:43 AM

And it's published in "Music and Song from The Boys of the Lough". Edinburgh: Gilderoy Music, 1977
including the first verse asgien by Ciarili, the verse given by Malcolm 11 Apr 2002
and this as the last verse:

Then it's farewell draling I now must leave you, no more to meet you on yon moorland dale,
With sighing and sobbing, and love bewailing, so now come listen to my lovesick tale,
For I've travelled England and I've travelled Ireland, I have travelled Scotland o'er and o'er,
May the heavens above now protect my darling, near the mountain streams where the moorcocks crow.

(I haven't checked to see which verses are in the DT - I remember that "dwelling" was typed in as swelling!)


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: with my dog and gun
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Apr 03 - 01:50 PM

Looks like there are a number of versions of this song that we haven't explored. Here's the entry from the Traditional Ballad Index. I guess this isn't the same song as "Golden Glove." Maybe we need a different thread for that one.
-Joe Offer-

Where the Moorcocks Grow (The Mountain Stream; With My Dog and Gun)

DESCRIPTION: The singer sets out "with my dog and gun o'er the blooming heather." He meets a girl, and begs her to marry him, offering to give up roving if she does. She decides to wait "another season," both to test his love and to gain her parent's consent
AUTHOR: unknown
EARLIEST DATE: 1924 (Sam Henry collection)
KEYWORDS: rambling courting love marriage
FOUND IN: Britain(Scotland) Ireland
REFERENCES (3 citations):
Kennedy 136, "The Mountain Stream" (1 text, 1 tune)
SHenry H32, pp. 269-270, "Where the Moorcocks Grow" (1 text, 1 tune)
DT, DOGNGUN

RECORDINGS:
Paddy Tunney, "The Mountain Streams" (on FSB1)
Notes: Kennedy, based mostly on the affinity of this piece with "The Corncrake," argues that the song comes from Ayreshire in Scotland; Henry claimed that "the song was composed about 70 years ago [i.e. c. 1855] by a roving sportsman in honour of a young lady of Letterloan." I know of no solid evidence for either claim. - RBW
File: K136

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The Ballad Index Copyright 2003 by Robert B. Waltz and David G. Engle.


Golden Glove, The (Dog and Gun) [Laws N20]

DESCRIPTION: A lady is to be married, but finds she prefers the farmer who is to give her away. She pleads illness and calls off the wedding. She claims she has lost a glove (which she placed on the farmer's land) and will marry whoever finds it. The rest is obvious

See this thread (click) for "Golden Glove."


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Subject: Tune Add: MOUNTAIN STREAMS WHERE THE MOORCOCKS...
From: MMario
Date: 15 May 03 - 02:36 PM

The tune from "Music and Song from the Boys of the Lough"
The notes say: Learned by Cathal from Paddy and Jimmy Halpin from Co. Fermanagh.

X:1
T:THE MOUNTAIN STREAMS WHERE THE MOORCOCKS CROW
N:'Music and Song from the Boys of the Lough'
I:abc2nwc
M:3/4
L:1/8
K:D
z4F A|d e d c A A/2 G/2|F G E D =C D/2 E/2|
F d A G/2 F/2 G3/2 E/2|D D/2 C/2 D3F/2 A/2|
d e d c A A A/2 G/2|F G E D =C D/2 E/2|
F d A G/2 E/2 G3/2 E/2|D C D3F/2 G/2|
A d/2 e/2 f d e e| (3Ace d3/2 c/2 A F/2 G/2|
A d/2 e/2 f d e e| (3Ace d2A B/2 c/2|
d e d c A A/2 G/2|F G F E =C D/2 E/2|
F d A G/2 E/2 G3/2 E/2|D C D2z2|]


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: With My Dog and Gun - Mountain Streams
From: Noreen
Date: 15 May 03 - 06:12 PM

acquaint my parents makes more sense than ..quit...; she's going back to tell her parents what's happening/happened, and she's NOT leaving them.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: With My Dog and Gun - Mountain Streams
From: Cluin
Date: 15 May 03 - 11:21 PM

I've always liked the Silly Wizard version a lot. But (as Malcolm Douglas pointed out) the lyrics in the SW version in the DT linked to above has a few mistakes in it:

Andy M. sang moorcocks, not millcocks
and "I loved a rover", not robber
And the line is "Tell me your name and your dwelling, also" not "oh so?"
And it's "I'm a rovin' Johnny, if you gang wi' me", not "gane"
And "And I'll set ye down all upon my knee, love" is actually "sit".
"Where the lenties sing their so so sweetly" should be "Where the linnets sing their song sae sweetly"

Oh and one more... It's not "Oh, excuse my name, but you'll find my swelling". The word is dwelling. It was probably a typo, but JEEZ!...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: With My Dog and Gun - Mountain Streams
From: ciarili
Date: 16 May 03 - 08:18 PM

Well, it could only be worse if that typo were in one of his lines!


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Subject: chords?: With My Dog and Gun - Mountain Streams
From: nelagnelag
Date: 17 May 04 - 06:58 PM

Hi,

I don't remember the name of the application you use to read this file:

X:1
T:THE MOUNTAIN STREAMS WHERE THE MOORCOCKS CROW
N:'Music and Song from the Boys of the Lough'
I:abc2nwc
M:3/4

etc....

anyway, I'd like the chords to the silly wizard version of the song.

I have andy stewart's book, but it's in storage in seattle, argh.

G


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: With My Dog and Gun - Mountain Stream
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 17 May 04 - 07:28 PM

Paddy Tunney sings it on Folk-Legacy's CD-7.
    Sandy


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: With My Dog and Gun - Mountain Streams
From: GUEST,Christine Dowling
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 09:55 AM

The Tunney Family (children, grandchildren and great grandchildren) have been giving illustrated talks about their family's singing life.

They talk about Paddy teaching the song to Dolores one year at Miltown Malbay. He made her go over and over it until she got it right. She did a stunning job on it.

It is interesting to me, however, that neithr Dolores, Paddy or the current Tunney singers sing it the way Brigid Tunney did-going into the major in the high, middle part of the verse. She makes it sound positively Appalachian. Very cool.


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